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PoliticsRe: The Northern Counter-coup Of 1966: The Full Story Without Bias! by jason123: 4:00am On Jul 25, 2011
@ Ezeuche
Nigeria has EVERY right to protect her citizens (The Annaga*, Benins, Itsekiris, Uhrobos, Ijaws etc) who were FORCEFULLY included in Biafra.
Nigeria has a right to protect her teritory. Nigeria MUST not compromise her territory boundary,NO matter the consequences
Nigeria has a right to INVADE the East and call Ojukwu for Treason!
The North had EVERY right to react that way (even though to me, it was over-done. But they wore the shoe, hence, knew where it pinched)
The West had a right to DEFEND (Not attack like Banjo and Ojukwu did BUT defend) her territory. Same with the Mid-west!
PoliticsRe: The Northern Counter-coup Of 1966: The Full Story Without Bias! by jason123: 3:55am On Jul 25, 2011
EzeUche:
[b]Biafra was not Nigeria. Ojukwu declared an independent nation because [/b]people ALL of the East were being targeted around Nigeria for crimes they did not commit.

The only crime a person of the east committed was that they were from the East. There is no justification in Nigeria invading a sovereign nation.
You are an unserious person. Okay, its was okay to arrest Awo and Enahoro for treason and occupy the West but it is not okay to do the same to the East??
PoliticsRe: The Northern Counter-coup Of 1966: The Full Story Without Bias! by jason123: 3:51am On Jul 25, 2011
EzeUche:
[bYou are a DUMB BUFFOON. It is OFFICIAL[/size][/b]

Let me repeat it for you since you do not understand.

If a nation cannot protect its citizens, then the people who are impacted can form a nation of their own.

Can you comprehend fool?
I knew you would come back . . .so typical  undecided grin grin grin
Well, I think I have already done justice to your STUPEEED statement!!!
I'm off . . . wink
PoliticsRe: The Northern Counter-coup Of 1966: The Full Story Without Bias! by jason123: 3:50am On Jul 25, 2011
I have been relatively quiet because I see no point discussing these issues over and over again but Ezeuche's comment is scary
@Ezeuche

Why do you make subjective statements?? Why can't you EVER (For once in your supremacist life) be OBJECTIVE?? undecided sad sad sad
How can you say the civil war was caused by "Nigeria" invading "Nigeria"huh Are you saying Nigeria should not protect her territory from a seceding group?? Or Nigeria should compromise her territory because Ojukwu was unsatisfied with Nigeria despite the fact that other Leaders were killed except Igbo leadershuh
Also, not everyone in the East was a Biafran, some were still Nigerians . . . and carried Nigerian passports. They were FORCEFULLY included in the Biafran territory YET you are saying "Nigeria caused the war??"
shocked shocked
Shocked is an understatement!!!

Your lack of objectivity is appalling to say the least . . .
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 3:43am On Jul 25, 2011
kasiem:
@jason, have heard that the hausa/fulani fought with Yorubas in lagos. I could remember that time hausas were being massacred and immolated in aba, my dad went out pleading for some of them. This the response we are getting from cows like harem. Even in the north, igbos massacre the hausas without allowing the media to cover it. I'd not mind giving my contact to any yorobaman that wants enter early grave by challenging me for a fight. Let dbanj tell u guys what ikechukwu did to him.
GBAM!!! wink
PoliticsRe: The Northern Counter-coup Of 1966: The Full Story Without Bias! by jason123: 3:42am On Jul 25, 2011
EzeUche:
Of course Nigeria should be blamed for the Civil War, by invading the Eastern Region. That invasion was an act of war by any accounts. If a nation cannot protect its citizens, then the citizens have a right to declare their own nation.
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A VERY VERY VERY ULTIMATELY DUMB STATEMENT!!! Think about it and try again . . . .
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PoliticsRe: The Northern Counter-coup Of 1966: The Full Story Without Bias! by jason123: 2:48am On Jul 25, 2011
RoadStar:
I believe the same feeling that lead to the counter-coup is begining to play up again.
Fear of southern domination.
The whole boko haram debacle seems to be a sheilded uprising by the north.
No, its not.
This a TOTALLY different scenario. The current issue is about political power not domination (which can be equivalent to economic domination).
CultureRe: Are Ibos Jealous Of The Success Of Lagos? by jason123: 2:45am On Jul 25, 2011
s3nn2x:
To say the least, she is not asking a legitimate question. She, you and every1 supporting are just plain tribalistic in nature. hw can somebody say the igbos are jealous of lagos and it is because of lagos that they do not want to leave Nigeria. Do u thing lagos or any part of the south west is self sustaining. Nigeria is best if we remain together but if peole like you dont want to go beyound the Biafra period then shame on you. Nobody is jealous of lagos, infact, lagos is nothing more than a failed city and it would require every1 in Nigeria to rebuild lagos, so, if u are tryn to be sentimental, then u can rebuild lagos on your own. it is people like you that is making Nigeria divided instead of us to be united.
I agree with your comment EXCEPT that you were not objective. I have questions for you:

Was Calabar not the capital before Lagos?? And is Abuja not the current capitalhuh
Do these cities speak English or Ibibio and Hausa respectivelyhuh


Your answer will be appreciated!!!
PoliticsRe: The Northern Counter-coup Of 1966: The Full Story Without Bias! by jason123: 2:35am On Jul 25, 2011
^^^^ I have stopped replying to that guy's post. He ALWAYS makes no sense. All he does is to lump "big" words together to feel smart with himself but after taken your time to read his message, you'll end up being ashamed of our university system. WHAT AN A55!!! cheesy
PoliticsRe: Rival To Boko Haram As A New Christian Terrorist Group "akhwat Akwop" by jason123: 2:31am On Jul 25, 2011
bashr4:
the difference is that they will be no killing spree
A LIE FROM HELL!!! What about us and the Ijawshuh Let's face the issue without being sentimental . . . . . .Don't get me wrong, I will LOVE Southern Nigeria but we should not lie based on sentiments . . .
PoliticsRe: The Northern Counter-coup Of 1966: The Full Story Without Bias! by jason123: 1:38am On Jul 25, 2011
lagcity:
thanks a lot ezeuche, i threw you a bait and you caught it. this was necessary because i knew you wouldn't be upfront if i brought up the meddling in western politics at first. the North didn't use Akintola, bello's NPC and Zik's NCNC used akintola as fifth column. Bello and Zik were very scared of AG and its radical members. thus they decided to throw a wrench in the AG. so Zik and bello's meddling in the politics of the west caused the wild wild west. if they had just minded their business, there wouldn't be wild wild west. scholars have already concluded on this issue that NCNC and NPC were very strange bed fellows: they weren't really seeing eye to eye and it was a marriage of convenience. these two parties joined together all because of fear of the AG. npc saw ncnc as the lesser evil and vice versa. please ezeuche, don't take my word for it. be intellectually honest enough to ask ppl who actually know this stuff. when i get the time, i'll give you a list of professors from the mid-west and eastern region who told it like it is. no sentiments please. i still have my question for you; was coup and unnecessary bloodshed the perfect solution to the wild wild west?
grin grin grin
You don catch am!!!

PS: Just added my own special effect cheesy
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 11:25pm On Jul 24, 2011
ChinenyeN:
Particular things irritate & elicit a hot-blooded response from me. One of those particulars has been featuring on NL more often than it used to.
Aside from that, nothing is different about me.
Okay. . . it was just my observation. cool cool cool
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 11:24pm On Jul 24, 2011
htajz:
did all that happen in your dreams?? infact i must commend the ithsekiri for managing to put up a fight , cus on a normal day people with yoruba blood are known to be cowards all bark no bite.
GBAM. Like how you accuse the Yorubas of genocide on your people, abihuh Check your websites, you all keep report your neighbours to the UN because they fought back. JOKERS!!!
Itsekiris will always stand their ground. We were not the ones that called for the cease fire . . . . It shows that you guys are the real cowards!!! grin grin grin cheesy
PoliticsRe: The Northern Counter-coup Of 1966: The Full Story Without Bias! by jason123: 8:07pm On Jul 24, 2011
^^^^huhhuhhuh??
PoliticsRe: The Northern Counter-coup Of 1966: The Full Story Without Bias! by jason123: 8:05pm On Jul 24, 2011
@Ezeuche, Wesley is Anoima!!!
@Alex101, CyberG is a Northerner!!!

Thats all I will say . . . cool
PoliticsRe: Boko Haram: Rival Group Drops Threat Leaflets In 10 Northern States by jason123: 7:17am On Jul 24, 2011
[size=14pt]Beginning of the END of Nigeria!!![/size]
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 6:12am On Jul 24, 2011
ChinenyeN, nowadays you are hot-blooded. Hope all is wellhuh undecided
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 6:11am On Jul 24, 2011
htajz:
izon this izon that , the fear of izons is the begining of wisdom  cool cool cool cool cool

wey that itshekiri boy jason so you still get mouth sef hmm you lucky say u still dey delta state just get ready to migrate back to ile ife .

as for the yaribas , no be today we know say na only mouth mouth una get so no need adressing you
i no get bizness wit awusa man
as for igbos the boundries are clear any incursion into izon land will be fiercly resisted, we will recover opobo soon just as we have recovered bonny hope you dont have a problem with that and remeber when it starts the ikwerees are easily accessible to us by the time you are able to come to their aid  lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
SHAAATTTT TAP DIA!!!! grin
I do not know about Igbos ooo! But the Itsekiris faced you guys, FIRE FOR FIRE!!! The Yorubas Faced you guys in AJ city. Hausas will annihilate you guys!!! Maybe it only Igbos that fear you because all other groups have NEVER expressed fear in facing you and that is why they HAVE faced you except Igbo! lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed grin
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 1:18am On Jul 24, 2011
ChinenyeN:
Jason, just so you know, Ngwa saw the Atlantic pre-colonialism & pre-slave trade.
grin grin grin. Its like no one wants the Ijaws to claim their land! grin grin cheesy
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 1:16am On Jul 24, 2011
Ibime:
Nobody "gave" land. I am explaining Ijaw mentality - Ijaw man can live somewhere for years and not cultivate the forest around preferring to fish instead. If another tribe comes to cultivate the forest, Ijaw man will feel he "allowed" that tribe to take that land and can take it back anytime.  cool

Secondly, Itsekiri took land by force from around the 15th century when their Kingdom started expanding. Dont act like they owned the whole of Warri. Thirdly, there are many Itsekiri who are "absorbed" Ijaws, having chosen to assimilate themselves into the more powerful Itsekiri Kingdom of that time, Richard Mofe Damijo for example.

Thirdly, there is no such thing as Ijaw. There is a little Ijaw in every tribe of the Delta. Ijaw is simply a name for Oru people, the aborigines of the Delta. The name Ijaw was used for those West of Brass whilst the name Oru was used for those East of Brass. Bringing everyone into a tribe called "Ijaw" is a recent phenomenom after the amalgamation of Nigeira. Oru is simply the original language and culture of the riverine people of the Delta. Even Abohs (Igbo) and many other riverine Igbos are asimilated Orus whilst the bloodline of modern day cultures like Urhobo, Isoko and such are interfused with Orus. Ijaw does not really exist except to describe people who can still trace themselves back to the aborigines of the delta (Orus). An Okrika man cannot understand a Gbaramatu man, yet they both call themselves Ijaw.
Thanks for clarifying that because I was really getting annoyed with the propaganda of Ijaws being the only ethnic group with access to Sea. In anycase, I hope this is resolved soon.

EzeUche:
The people who have committed that abomination have been dealt with in that community.  cool

I don't know if you were old enough to remember, but do you remember what happened to the Hausa in Onitsha and Aba when they were rioting about the Miss Universe pageant?

Do not put the Igbo to a test.
Sharrrrap dia!!!! angry cheesy
Even the Yoruba "cowards" dealt with the Hausas in Lagos YET your people still call them cowards. That tells me that your people are the REAL cowards in Nigeria!!! angry cheesy cheesy wink wink wink

alj harem:
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin mouth again and lairs
You dey mind am? undecided grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 1:01am On Jul 24, 2011
As for Ezeuche, Obiagu and co,
Were you not all quiet when the Fulanis came to your land, rap.ed your women and killed your men?? COWARDS to the high heavens!!! I was even trying to defend them. All their men could do was to go to the streets and "protest" LOL. We itsekiris will atleast face them and if they kill us, well its all good BUT we do not run or "protest" and disrupt our own activities . . .LOL
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 12:56am On Jul 24, 2011
Kpogede, I will advise you to learn how to ignore certain people on this forum. They are filled with hatred and will not tackle a problem objectively.
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 12:54am On Jul 24, 2011
Seriously, all this nonsense or Ijaw expansionism has to stop if WE all LOVE peace. Nobody is pushing the Ijaw man to the wall, t is the Ijaw man that is CONSTANTLY trying to foment trouble. If you react, they will say you hate them. What nonsense!!
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 12:52am On Jul 24, 2011
Ibime:
NL tribal Warriors! Any small neighbourhood skirmish, they'll turn it into a ten page discussion.

Ijaws do not play with land dispute. They react like niggaz with their backs against the water. They must swim or fight. Most Ijaw leaders of yesteryear were crowned for their ability to find good land for their people. Any good Pere is one that can lead his people to good Kule (land).

Incidentally, Ijaws are said to be the most aboriginal people in Nigeria. The Ijaw man still believes that he owns all of Southern Nigeria and allowed other tribes to settle on land because he had no use for it and preferred to be on water. My elders used to tell me years ago how Bonny people "allowed" Ogoni people to settle on their current land and directed them to go and cultivate there when the Ogoni showed up on the shoreline. This is a prevalent mentality amongst Ijaw, whether rightly or wrongly.

Warri issue though is a historical one going back more than half a millenium. It is no news that Warri was an old Ijaw settlement from which Ijaws were pushed out of by Benin Kingdom and others 500 years ago. This is what prompted many Ijaw tribes to move South, and many Ijaw peoples in Rivers State today such as Kalabari claim to have started their journey from Warri over 500 years ago. Till today "Wari" means House ie Compound (Family House) in Ijaw language and that's where the name Warri comes from.

Of course, Ijaws have no right to Warri anymore than Jews have right to Palestine which they left 2000 years ago. Whatever happened in the past is gone, likewise Opobo land is no longer Ikot Abasi land, neither is Abonnema an Ekpoma land. The point is that struggle for land, constant migration and wars have been the Ijaw story for the past 1000 years. Ijaws have lived as far north as Benin hundreds of years ago and have been forced to flee and fight for the last millenium so they do not play when it comes to land issues.
With all due respect (You are one of the few I respect on NL), I think your "storyline" is flawed. Why is it that it is only the Ijaws that give landhuh How can riverine people (not even sea people like the Ilajes) give land that they NEVER owned??
How can an ethnic group just sit somewhere and cook up stories about how they gave Itsekiris and other southern groups land?? Do you mean, apart from Ijaws, no group saw the Altantic ocean?? I know about the Igbos but what about the Aworis, Egun and Beninshuh

Secondly, how come I have not heard about this Ijaw fairy tale in Benin rep, Cameroon or Togo?? Why Nigeria?? Did the Ijaws know the EXACT boundaries of Nigeria before the formation of Nigeria??

All this propaganda will not end well. I need not say that it is not only the Ijaws that are willing to die. This constant harassment has to stop.  angry undecided
PoliticsRe: Fajuyi- The Forgotten Nigerian Hero by jason123: 10:57pm On Jul 23, 2011
^^^GBAM!!! Smh
PoliticsRe: Fajuyi- The Forgotten Nigerian Hero by jason123: 9:22pm On Jul 23, 2011
^^^Whatever rocks your boat. . . . . undecided. Do you even see me getting involved in SW politics on NL?? That should answer your curious mind (not that I expect you to believe me anyway). Goodluck with what ever you believe . . . If to you, I am Yoruba, then so be it . . . undecided
PoliticsRe: Fajuyi- The Forgotten Nigerian Hero by jason123: 7:31pm On Jul 23, 2011
^^^ Ode. I have not said[b] COUNTLESS[/b] times on this forum that I see myself as a Yoruba more than Itsekirihuh huh
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 2:47am On Jul 23, 2011
ChinenyeN:
Minorities. . Seems like you people know what your problems are. Jason, given the situation, I'd say that the answer is clear. Urge your people to deal swiftly and efficiently.
Nah, I am sure it will not lead to that stage. However, this just proved to me that there is nothing like NIger-delta republic and there will NEVER be a Niger-delta republic in the Future. ASE!!!!
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 2:45am On Jul 23, 2011
ekt_bear:
Seems to me that whatever buildings they are building need to be destroyed. And the land needs to be resettled again.

At a minimum. And you'll need to call on any allies that'll be able to help. Man we should have settled in large #s in that area, then there would be no numerical disadvantage. . .

I wonder to what extent we can help, if at all.
Thanks but I am sure the we can handle our problem. If Yorubas join (OPC in the 2000's), it will complicate the problem and make it hard to reconcile the two . Thanks anyway . . . I reckon its just a simple dispute, however annoying, I am sure they will reconcile soon . . .
Although, I came across this just now:


Five injured in Ijaw, Itsekiri clash
By Our Reporter 21/07/2011 00:00:00
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There is tension between Ijaw and Itsekiri ethnic groups in Warri Southwest Local Government of Delta State, following squabbles over land ownership.

This led to the demolition of a building in Ikpokpo Community on Tuesday evening.

Aggrieved Ijaw leaders blamed youths from neighbouring Ugborodo, an Itsekiri community, for the destruction.

Angry Ikpokpo leaders said armed youths invaded and demolished a six-bedroom structure being built by Egbema/Gbaramatu Development Council (EGDC) for teachers in the community.

Chairman of Ikpokpo community Godwin Akori said five of his kinsmen were injured by the armed invaders.

Akori said the incident was the second in recent times, adding that the Itsekiri claimed that they owned the land occupied by Ikpokpo community.

He said the attack by the Ogborodo youths, suspected to have been sponsored by an Itsekiri youth leader, is capable of sparking ethnic strife and fresh crisis between Ijaw and Itsekiri.

“Ikpokpo has been a community in Gbaramatu Kingdom. We are not Itsekiri people and they know that so we are wondering why some youths are trying to fan embers of discord.”

Akori said the Ijaw people are peaceful people but would not fold their hands and watch the invaders who lay claim to their father land or try to cause disharmony among their neighbours.

He called on Governor Emmanuel Uduaghan to wade into the matter to forestall it snowballing into a major crisis between the Ijaws and Itsekiri.

Ikpokpo has a common boundary with an Itsekiri community, Madangho, also in Warri Southwest Local Government.

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/13121-five-injured-in-ijaw-itsekiri-clash.html
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Monitoring Group Wants Sambo Deployed To Borno! by jason123: 2:19am On Jul 23, 2011
killayut:
NEW IJAW state proposed for creation,

"Whereas, the Ijaw communities, demarcated into Arogbo Central, Arogbo South, Arogbo North, Ukparamo, Ajakpata, Biyagbene, Adoloseimoh, Awodikuro, Apoi, Gbekebo, Gbaraun LGAs in the present Ondo States, Egbema Mainland, Egbema Island, Egbema-South, Ogbudugbudu, Ofunama, Olodiama LGAs in the present Edo State and Delta State, having united for a common purpose, for the benefit of all our indigenes, do hereby agree to form a new State in the West of the Niger Delta to be called BENI-EBE State, with the city of Arogbo as the capital"


A must,
SHUT UP THERE!!!
You will be shock at the resistance you will meet if you touch Edo state and Itsekiri land. What NONSENSE!!! Because of GEJ, your mouth dey run, abi? I dey laugh ooo!!!!
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 2:17am On Jul 23, 2011
ekt_bear:
^-- My heart goes out to you dude. It must be frustrating as hell. Not clear what the answer is either
Exactly!!!
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again by jason123: 2:14am On Jul 23, 2011
I can't help but laugh at the people that shout Niger-delta republic here and there. Is this what Niger-delta republic will be likehuh "Conquered territories"? In 2011huh I mean, how primitive can these people gethuh Before you know it, they will start saying Edos and Itsekiris are pushing Yoruba agenda in the Niger-delta (check their websites). Is this not an act of provocationhuh TO HELL WITH THE REPUBLIC OF NIGER-DELTA. Its either we have Southern Nigeria or Oodua Republic with my Edos and Uhrobo brothers like Kpogede74. Who wants to leave Nigeria to start another "NigeriaNiger-delta republic" with these ones undecided? I mean, seriously?? With Ijaws as the majority instead of Hausas?? Tell me, what difference does it make?? Even the Uhrobos that are the majority in Delta do not behave like these people. SMH.

As I said earlier, NA FIRE FOR FIRE. By the time we all kill ourselves, there will be no one to "conquer" any territory!!

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