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PoliticsRe: We Are Not – Kano, Edo, Benue, Others; Reject Merger by jason123: 12:05pm On Oct 31, 2011
Hahaha grin grin grin!
See as all of them won remain for status quo! cheesy
Dr. Authur Nwankwo has a solid point though. Viability was never the bases of state creation in Nigeria, so why now?? Notwithstanding, I must say, some states should have never been created.
PoliticsRe: I Listed 500 Govt Fund Thieves And Nothing Happened – Nzeribe by jason123: 11:54am On Oct 31, 2011
Trust the usual suspects, they must defend him as long as he is Igbo. See how they justify a man who was part of the team that committed "genocide" (in their own words) and also part of the people that annulled the freest and fairest election in Nigeria's history. Yet, he is justified on both counts.  embarassed . Nigeria has a long way to go.

@Topic
He is right to an extent but what happens if the administrator of punishments is also corrupt? I think corruption has become part of our culture now.
PoliticsRe: Which Nigerians inspire you the most? by jason123: 2:29am On Oct 31, 2011
P-square!
Tu-face
PoliticsRe: Which Nigerians inspire you the most? by jason123: 2:28am On Oct 31, 2011
Chief Obafemi Awolowo
Ken-saro-wiwa
Achebe
Wole Soyinka
Fashola
PoliticsRe: ‘States Are Not Bankrupt, But We Have No Money!’ -Amaechi by jason123: 2:35pm On Oct 30, 2011
manny4life:
Having gone through some of the post on here, while I'm impressed at some people thoughts, I'm alarmed (though no surprised) at some people's reasoning.

There is no government that will be financially stable if it doesn't embark on capital infrastructures. Infrastructures encourages investment (business or companies), which in turn creates population and in-turn creates revenue for the govt. However, one has to be "prudent" when embarking on massive loan takeout and if you're going to take loans, use it for revenue generating activities ONLY. Monorail is important, however, it's NOT financial sensible to embark on such expensive projects. Why not start out small, yet efficient? Why massive project that is enough to bankrupt a state? Monorail do not pay back their expense until another 15years or more down the road; so for now it does not make any financial sense to embark on it.
Reading your comment breathes life into this thread. We are basically saying the same thing. You cannot "sustain" and yet expect to grow. It is an impossibility in the world of economics. Instead grow then sustain--and obviously, being prudent is important, of course!
PoliticsRe: The New Lagos by jason123: 1:33pm On Oct 30, 2011
All that remains is carpark!

This is the design and what it will be like at the end of the day. Courtesy of Tbite cool(sky scrapper city)

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4410195792_41eca73023_b.jpg
PoliticsRe: The New Lagos by jason123: 1:30pm On Oct 30, 2011
FamilyRe: Married Men And Ladies Do U Tink I Should Go On Wit Dis Courtship by jason123: 1:15pm On Oct 30, 2011
Smilenw:
Yes, you have a huge problem and you must end your relationship at once. The problem however is not the man, but you yourself. You yelled at a man in public and shamelessly passes on the blame to him of being an angry man. How exactly do you expect a man to react when yelled at , at home or in public? As if that was not enough, you still go on to blame some poor couple who passes by for your boyfriend's reaction ! How foolish can you become? You have all the qualities to make not just this one's but any man's life a living hell- anger issues, passing the blame on whoever comes across your way, making a mountain out of a molehill, failure to accept your own problems - go work on all of it and only then think about marriage !

N.B: Please work on your English as well, it is HORRIBLE !
YOU HAVE SAID IT ALL!!!! Nothing more, nothing less. I wonder who will marry such a woman? undecided
PoliticsRe: Fuel Subsidy Removal: Resign Now! NLC Tells Jonathan by jason123: 11:59am On Oct 30, 2011
Sun of god:
GEJ,

Please resign . . .
He wouldn't . . . he can't. The country will split if he does.
Btw, I want people to read this, it was gotten from Vanguard:



Who would mobilise the Nigerian people ? Who are these Nigerian people these NLC are talking about ? Where are the youth of Nigeria they are going to mobilise for mass action ? Are they the present crop of Nigeria youth that have been polarised along ethnic, sectarian and political divides ? Are they these present day graduate youth educated with ''hand-out'' to the extent that their thinking faculty is inversely proportional to the reality of modern day situation ? Are they these youth that are ready tools in the hands of the Politicians ? Are they the Nigerian youth that have been brain washed by Oyedepos , Adeboyes, TB Joshuas Oyakhilomes and Okonkwos of this world that it is the wish of God that Nigeria should be in this sorry state in the hands of our rulers ?
I can assure Nigerians that before December, 2011, many hungry organisations would be sponsored by PDP Government to demonstrate in support of the proposed Govt action. In weeks to come, this policy would begin to come up in all the churches and mosques by our clergies that God has told them that it is the way forward for Nigerians and that Nigerians should support it.
This toothless NLC is only talking and saying what the timid, docile and 'quick to forgive' Nigerians want to hear. They would soon shut up as soon as they are settled.
Thinking of a meaningful revolution in Nigeria is laughable. Bank-OLE and Davis Mark said it at the wake of this Arab Spring that '' It can never happen here in Nigeria''. They would soon be vindicated. If Nigerians are enjoying what Libyans enjoyed under Ghadaffi, whoever is in power would rule till eternity because he would the God-sent that we have been waiting for.
Like Prof Tam David-West said in his interview with saharareporters that "there is a difference between native intelligence and book intelligence", this has clearly shown in the way Jonathan is being teleguided to take a wrong step against the people/
Those who said they were voting for Jonathan and NOT PDP would now be regretting actions and inactions when it matters. God has no hand in all what is happening to us at the moment, they are self-inflicted injuries.


By Henry Ayeni
PoliticsRe: ‘States Are Not Bankrupt, But We Have No Money!’ -Amaechi by jason123: 11:29pm On Oct 29, 2011
Onlytruth:
@jason123

I think your idea is tantamount to building a pyramid upside down. A state has to demonstrate self sustainability first before it can be allowed to borrow more.
Permit me to remain skeptical. My people say that " a person once stung by a bee, always flees at the sight of a mere housefly!". Nigeria was once HEAVILY INDEBTED, until God saved us through auntie Ngozi. We should flee at any suggestion of another debt burden.  cool I don talk me own o!
But aren't we in debt again, already??
Anyway, we can disagree to agree. cool
PoliticsRe: ‘States Are Not Bankrupt, But We Have No Money!’ -Amaechi by jason123: 11:20pm On Oct 29, 2011
Onlytruth:
Posted by: jason123
So, what would you say if my state Anambra borrows $10 billion to develop Anambra state, and all other states does the same, we would end up with $360 billion national debt. Who would pay it? We couldn't even pay back $36 billion.  undecided
Do you think any state would agree that it is "small"? How do you measure this your "big" states?
jason123:
What makes a state big? Diversity in people and economy, and sustained investment; and may be,viable natural resources which may come in terms of Sea ports, Crude Oil, Gold et.al.

For example, a state like Taraba or Gombe, we all know, cannot be viable, no matter how you look at it.
Yet, we both know that states like Rivers, Anambra, Delta and Lagos will forever be viable. Why is this so? Because the ticked the criteria above.

In my opinion, these states will always need capital projects to promote Nigeria because they are "Nigeria".

I just hope I conveyed my message to you better.
PoliticsRe: ‘States Are Not Bankrupt, But We Have No Money!’ -Amaechi by jason123: 11:13pm On Oct 29, 2011
Onlytruth:
Posted by: jason123
Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion but I wonder what makes one state "big". If I wake up and decide to dream big and hope that the rest of the country would bail me out (through the FG as you suggest here), then, you would have 36 "big states"! lol. You are not making any sense my friend.
What makes a state big? Diversity in people and economy, and sustained investment; and may be,viable natural resources which may come in terms of Sea ports, Crude Oil, Gold et.al.

For example, a state like Taraba or Gombe, we all know, cannot be viable, no matter how you look at it.
Yet, we both know that states like Rivers, Anambra, Delta and Lagos will forever be viable. Why is this so? Because the ticked the criteria above.

In my opinion, these states will always need capital projects to promote Nigeria because they are "Nigeria".

I just hope I conveyed my message to you better.
PoliticsRe: ‘States Are Not Bankrupt, But We Have No Money!’ -Amaechi by jason123: 11:07pm On Oct 29, 2011
Onlytruth:
^^ Meanwhile the state should be lending money to other really poorer states like Ekiti. lol
Lending? In terms of investments, YES. In terms of other non-productive things, NO.  

Onlytruth:
Supposing oil prices crashes to $30 per barrel, how will Rivers pay back almost $2billion or more?
In that case, the FG should come in. My point is, there is no Nigeria without some certain states. We need these states to keep growing so as to average out the overall economic growth of Nigeria, after all, people from other states migrate to these states.
These states should be given a free hand (considerably) regardless of the price of crude. Doing this will force other "smaller" states to find way to meet up, thus, open a door way for a new economic "feed". As they say, necessity is the mother of invention.
PoliticsRe: ‘States Are Not Bankrupt, But We Have No Money!’ -Amaechi by jason123: 10:59pm On Oct 29, 2011
Onlytruth:
Posted by: jason123
I think you missed the point completely. We are not talking about "big" or "small" states. We are talking about broke or economically prudent states. lol. undecided
Nigerians are easily thrown off balance by megalomania. If Rivers is not broke we won't be having this conversation.
If Rivers has to borrow N250 billion, how will the state pay for it? And borrowing is always addictive.
Who will pay these HUGE debts?
It's a risk we can afford to take. Looking at a bigger picture, you'll acknowledge that not every state can be "big" yet "big" states have to borrow and grow so as to be continuously attractive to investors. USA is not "economically prudent", if they were, they will not be in trillions of dollars debt to China.
Better still, "small" states should not be allowed to borrow or the amount should be capped but "big" states should. I am simply against the idea of states like Rivers or Lagos thinking about sustainability first instead of growth then sustainability.

For your hypothetical question, I'll suggest the FG should pay. States like Rivers should be given a free hand, yes, even at the detriment of the smaller states and the country at large. After all, what is "Nigeria" without the top 10 states, in terms of PP?? Nothing!
If borrowing is addictive then these states better get addicted because they ARE Nigeria, IMO.
PoliticsRe: ‘States Are Not Bankrupt, But We Have No Money!’ -Amaechi by jason123: 10:39pm On Oct 29, 2011
Onlytruth:
hahaha! I can see that some Nigerians are really struggling with the simple sense behind the points we are making.
Nobody said that government should not embark in "big projects". What we are saying is that they should be planned to be sustainable. In fact it should be planned like a business. If you cannot clearly envision where the funds will come from apart from FG, then you may want to rethink it because Nigeria's oil will finish one day. In the US here, high speed rail has not been implemented at the same scale desired simply because most high speed rails are not self sustaining. They are subsidized. So, it is waiting for now, lol. I wonder why a poor Nigerian state is busy borrowing left right and center to implement monorail. I can confidently say that it won't pay for itself! No be naija? undecided
You have a valid point too but which is state is embarking on the monorail project and isn't rich??
Remember, Enugu and one other state (I think Anambra or Imo) are in it together as a joint project.
So, apart from Lagos, Rivers, Abuja and the above, which other states can't afford it?


Most of the so called "big" projects are done in cities of the "big" states. Therefore; I think these states can build and afford it especially with the private investors participating in it.
PoliticsRe: Can An Igbo Person Ever Win Elections In Lagos State ? by jason123: 10:34pm On Oct 29, 2011
OP, are you okay at all huh huh huh huh
PoliticsRe: ‘States Are Not Bankrupt, But We Have No Money!’ -Amaechi by jason123: 7:46pm On Oct 29, 2011
I am for the "growth before sustainability" rather than simple "sustainability".
America, UK and China will not be where they are today if they were simply looking for sustainability. It is in the best interest for Nigerian states to grow first, before using the money generated from the growth to sustain themselves.

Rossikk:
I can't believe some people here are dissing the monorail systems springing up. What the hell is wrong with providing modern, affordable transportation to the masses?
Very good question!
PoliticsRe: Posters Who Have Lost My Respect In The Politics Section by jason123: 12:28pm On Oct 29, 2011
afam4eva:
lmao

Who in his right senses would want to grab a cup of coffee with Fstranger. Except you want to be Fstrangled. There are so many crazies like Fstranger on Nairaland.
Afam, I'm still laughing! Na wa ooo!!! grin grin cheesy
PoliticsRe: Posters Who Have Lost My Respect In The Politics Section by jason123: 12:54am On Oct 29, 2011
afam4eva:
lmao

Who in his right senses would want to grab a cup of coffee with Fstranger. Except you want to be Fstrangled. There are so many crazies like Fstranger on Nairaland.
grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Why Did You Vote For Goodluck Jonathon? by jason123: 1:48am On Oct 28, 2011
PointB:
@JASON
free and fair is relative. Hence relative to the past election in Nigeria 2011 is the freest and fairest. That shld settle the argument.

I don't know the number of hausa in the SE or how many of the turned out to vote, or if they even migrated to their different state to vote. But let me even ask u, how many relative do you have in the south east for starters? I know how many relatives i have far and wide in Nigeria.

Indeed election in Nigeria is always a matter of sentiment. Besides people vote for the man who draws close to them. Something buhari failed to do in the SE. It will be silly for him to expect any substantial vote in places where he had not even visible poster. That said, the underlying reasons why he lost so woefully in the SE is a matter for academics research. Speculations as per tribalism as the core motive is malicious and self serving. Or perhaps a way for losers to console themselves. Either way, GEJ is the president and i am sure he is doing his best.
My extended family voted overwhelmingly for GEJ and to be honest, it was based on regional affiliations i.e he is a SSouthern not because of what he can do. With that said, good night and have a nice day tomorrow!
CareerRe: Ekiti Senior Citizens Get N5,000 Monthly Allowance by jason123: 1:16am On Oct 28, 2011
Too small to make any impact. Probably 2-days meal!
PoliticsRe: Why Did You Vote For Goodluck Jonathon? by jason123: 1:13am On Oct 28, 2011
PointB:
^^^
@Jason
You don't have to be so sad. GEJ is much a better president than Buhari, I say this with deepest conviction.
TBH, I appreciate your rare civility. let's talk.
Agreed, Buhari was bigoted towards the SE. He didn't campaign there but there were other candidates apart from Buhari that people could have voted for. With that said, we cannot neglect that the 2011 elections was smeared with tribalism and intense rigging from both sides.
Why I'm arguing is because some people are painting it as the freest and fairest election, and it was not based on ethnic/regional interest.
How can we label such an election where under-aged votes voted as the "freest and fairest"?
What about the 99% votes. Are you telling me that the Hausa are less than 1% in the SE?
Also, look at the clear cut between the North and the South after elections?

Yet, you are saying people did not vote for GEJ based on sentiments? C'mon!
PoliticsRe: Why Did You Vote For Goodluck Jonathon? by jason123: 12:58am On Oct 28, 2011
PointB:
@Jason
that is to say u conducted an exit poll at the polling station.

my fair suggestion to you is that, not every one believe in Buhari as u did. The earlier u understand that the earlier u know why he lost.


You are trying to spin this the wrong way. The bible says in 2 timothy 2:16 , "avoid worthless babbles". I am done with you! cool
PoliticsRe: Why Did You Vote For Goodluck Jonathon? by jason123: 12:56am On Oct 28, 2011
PointB:
Jason, GEJ is president of Nigeria, not of ijaw, igbo, hausa, or Yoruba. He is not going to favour anyone over the other. Fairness is the concern here. Get over your tribal myopia already. The world has moved on.
You are a moro.n. Have you seen me witch-hunting GEJ here?? huh undecided Dude, I am not one of those who complain and shout down every move by our president but it is my civil duty to air my opinion if I'm against any of his moves.

About regional presidency; dude, he got his votes based on regional/ethnic sentiments not based on what he can do except you want to toll down the path of self-deceit. After all, he was the president for a year before he was re-elected. Yet, no one could point out what he did to improve the lives of Nigeria (even remotely), now, I am not saying he should rectify a 50 yrs damage in a year, far from it. But he did not to prove that he is worth the votes cased for him.
PoliticsRe: Why Did You Vote For Goodluck Jonathon? by jason123: 12:51am On Oct 28, 2011
PointB:
People who voted for GEJ voted according to the need and conscience. It is very pathetic that due to myopia, self conceit, arrogance, and what have you, many of you have decided to be the judge of why the other people voted. Your inability to get over the fact that GEJ was voted by others for good reasons make you lots pathetic. Keep kicking at yourselves, while the rest of us move  on.
Oh, keep quiet! You talk about need and conscience?? Search you heart and be honest to yourself.
As for GEJ, I carry no grudges. He won and that's it. No one can change that, its history. But saying his votes were not based on ethnic, regional and religious agendas is a lie!
PoliticsRe: Why Did You Vote For Goodluck Jonathon? by jason123: 12:48am On Oct 28, 2011
asha 80:
sorry but this post reeks of contradiction.
Why? Cause I talked about Itsekiris and Ilajes? undecided. If its that, I'm not complaining. I simply brought that out as a way of replying his condescending post on the Itsekiris.
PoliticsRe: Why Did You Vote For Goodluck Jonathon? by jason123: 12:37am On Oct 28, 2011
alj_harem:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

why are you this tribalistic. Na wa o ezeuche cry cry
Don't mind the maga. We all know why he is butt-licking. Oh, how lofty are his dreams!
As long as we continue to be tribalist about our leaders, we will make no head-way in Nigeria.

Was it not Lagos that an Igbo wants to rule?? That is why that state keeps progressing cause they have left that primitive way of thinking but some people are hell-bent on taking us back to the 19th century.
PoliticsRe: Why Did You Vote For Goodluck Jonathon? by jason123: 12:34am On Oct 28, 2011
PointB:
True I see the tribal angle:  an itsekiri not happy to see his sworn enemy - ijaw as a president. Pathetic!
You are a case. What has "sworn enemy" got to do with my opinion? You are so so tribalistic that you cannot see the underlying truth which is, a "GEJ" (an Ijaw man and Niger-deltan) as the president does not mean the life of a Niger-deltan will be better off.
I understand the SS pov, after all, we produce the Oil (which Delta state alone produces 40% of Nigeria's oil and Itsekiris+Ilajes in delta produce 75% of that 40% alone) but your own case is pathetic cause as far as Nigerians are concerned, you voted for him because he added "Azikwe", which is worse.

You voted based on tribalism. So, I ask "Point B", how has the life of the Igbo man improved?? Or the Ijaw man?? Or the average Nigerian??
TravelRe: The City Of Warri In Pictures by jason123(op): 12:23am On Oct 28, 2011
PapaBrowne:
Warri is definitely better than majority of the cities in Nigeria. Infact asides Lagos, PH and Abuja, I don't think there is any other city with the quantum of prosperity that avails in Warri.
Warri has the second highest per capita GDP in Nigeria after Abuja.
Warri is a multi billion dollar city with huge investments employing tens of thousands of people such as the Delta Steel Complex, Warri Refinery, EGTL and a host of others.
Warri has the highest number of hotels per capita in Nigeria after Abuja- ie number of hotels per population. The number of new hotels springing up on a daily is a sign of the economic prosperity that pervades the city! The new Protea hotel in Warri is not only the best Protea hotel in the country, it is definitely one of the best boutique hotels anywhere in West Africa. And guess what, despite the cheapest room being almost 40,000 naira per night, the hotel experiences more than 70% occupancy rate.
Warri is definitely one of the best cities to live in Nigeria. Salaries are high. Jobs are many compared with most Nigerian cities. Economic activity is robust!

Now, this is for all the haters:
Warri is better than all the cities in the south west. Whether na Ibadan, Osogbo,Ogbomosho,Ile-ife, Akure, Abeokuta, Ado Ekiti et al .I've been in many of these places and I know. In fact many of these cities would be third rate if they were in Delta State as they can't compete with even Asaba.

To put things in better perspective, the city of Warri alone flies more Air passengers than all of the 5 South West states combined. That is despite the fact that there are 3 other major airports within a 3 hr radius- Benin, Asaba, PH.
Lagos is not classified as a south west state.

Warri is better than all the cities in the North Central- Ilorin, Jos, Makurdi, Lokoja, Okenne you name it!

Warri is better than all the cities in the North East- Maiduguri, damaturu,bauchi,Yola, Jalingo, just call am!! Warri better pass!

It's only Kaduna and Kano in the North that can do any competition with Warri.

In the South East there are a couple good cities like Enugu and Owerri so I would leave out the south east from my comparisons!!

Warri is a lovely city and Wafarians love the city!
Uduaghan started well but appears to have lost focus. But to classify him as one of the worst Governors in the country is taking it too far. Even Oshiomole who appears to be working has actually worked on only about 4 roads in the whole of Benin! The roads in Benin City, which happens to be the home of my ancestors remains worse of than those in Warri, despite the fact that Oshiomole is said to be working!

I would be adding more beautiful pictures soon for the haters to keep hating!!
I agree with almost all except one. If Lagos is not a SWestern state, then what is ithuhhuh??
PoliticsRe: Reps Move To Remove Efcc Boss, Waziri ! by jason123: 12:11am On Oct 28, 2011
Sun of god:
So our corrupt judges will do a better job?

Afterall they are experinced at carrying out 'Audits' and 'Investigations' into public finances.

smh, undecided

(Bring back Ribadu - That 'Aboki' has my respect - He was bloody effective)
You can say that again!

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