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TravelRe: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by jedisco(m): 4:22am On Jun 13, 2025
Kenn55:
Hypocrisy at its peak.
You dislike Indians so much to the extent you denigrate them by calling them awon pajeet and you are allowed to be openly Indianphobia but others are not allowed to be homophobia.

You defend your Agege community but you can't defend the Indian community against MAGA. So much for being accommodating.

Anyway, I will take Indian community even with their fault over the Agege community anytime anyday. Anybody wey no like am, make e go chop Apple wey Abacha chop those days grin
Hehe. When someone makes denigrative statements about himself it's doesn't take long to see that there are deep seated issues with inferiority complex.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 1:51am On Jun 12, 2025
willyede:
More than nine million pensioners are to receive Winter Fuel Payments this year after Chancellor Rachel Reeves confirmed details of a massive u-turn.
Anyone with an income of £35,000 or below will benefit from the payments of up to £300 designed to help them stay warm in freezing weather.
It means the overwhelming majority of those who lost the money will become eligible again, at a cost of £1.25 billion in England and Wales, following an Express crusade demanding the allowance is reinstated.
This reversal captivates the dilemma every government has faced for the last 2 decades and it's the reason why many unsustainable bits of society cant be touched.

I can vividly remember the chap telling me of his plan to sell houses 4 bed house for over 500k, buy a bungalow and then use the remnant for a holiday house in France. Thesame breath he used in telling me how 'cheap' properties in France were was same he used to lament how this government wants to 'kill off all pensioners' because they took away winter fuel payments.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 11:58pm On Jun 11, 2025
ehizario2012:
Good morning people, please is it practically possible to run through a mortgage process from start to moving in without involving a mortgage advisor? I mean doing everything by one's self? Thanks.
Saw you post on the mortgage thread and I see why you asked.
While its possible, I dont think its worth it especially for a first time buyer.

Most mortgage advisors would not charge you an extra fee for a residential property. The lenders pay them and for the most part, you don't get a discount if you go to the lenders directly. It's still thesame rate so why not let someone do the hardwork at no cost to you?

To me, except your application is straightforward, a good mortgage advisor can be very helpful. For renewals, it's a different thing
TravelRe: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by jedisco(m): 11:51pm On Jun 11, 2025
ehizario2012:
At what point would one know if the deposit would be 5% or 10%? I have two people that got 5% for new builds in Rotherham here but we're not so close and can't discuss those terms. Thanks
Once you start searching, you'd soon know the price range of the house type you want. You'd also know the max deposit you can afford beforehand.
It's worth having a chat with a mortgage advisor early on as they'd be able to advise on the prevailing rates you're eligible for. You then decide what rate to go for bearing in mind lower deposits would mean higher rates. 5% tends yo be specifically expensive

So in summary, for the large part, you're the one who decides
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 9:50pm On Jun 08, 2025
Lexusgs430:
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This is the exact reason I say, climate change/global warming is the greatest scam (before or after religion).......😊😁😂
Hehe... abeg save our planet.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 9:32pm On Jun 08, 2025
Viruses:
Thank you for this information.

If I have a mortgage but didn't use it as my office address with company's house due to lender's policy, can I still expense part of the mortgage as I work from home?
What exactly does the mortgage policy state? It may be against converting your personal home into a business e.g shop but hardly against having a home office in todays world of working from home.

Also, I do not think the business address on companies house is a deciding factor. Many people use their accountants address for to protect their privacy but that should not stop claiming relevanst costs if part of your business operates from your home. Always worth clarifying with your accountant.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m):
Gerrard59:
Well, young people of today in developed countries should brace their minds not to receive a pension when they are in retirement.


Largely in the south. The birth rate in the north is way higher.
https ://www. economist. com/middle-east-and-africa/2024/11/07/why-the-fertility-gap-between-north-and-south-nigeria-matters

It is not any high cost of living. People these days want to get everything at once - enjoy their lives, travel here and there, eat here and there, buy this and that, target this promotion and that, achieve this milestone and that, alongside bearing children. I am an advocate of fewer children since I am a Nigerian, but for the developed world, they have to choose a struggle. They cannot enjoy those material aspects of life and still expect an increase in the birth rate.
People say that often but if the winter feul issues is anything to go by, it'd be a while before we see a government that'd even think of significantly reducing talk removing more of removing the state pension. Reason I'm considering making voluntary contributions (though laws for those who have lived abroad might change)

Same thing were both saying. The global trend is also visible locally in Nigeria. On average (keyword: average), southern Nigerians tend to be more educated with less poverty rates than northern Nigerians. This has ultimately fed into birth rates differential we see locally. Even personally, my sisters have less kids than my mum who inturn had less than my grandmum. The education, quality of life and independence had conversely increased with each generation. This is not something to be frowned upon. The advent of a more interconnected world has meant many nations are having less kids before they even get rich. Africa is the major outlier as regards to birth rates and that is quickly changing.
TravelRe: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by jedisco(m): 4:50pm On Jun 08, 2025
oluayebenz:
I have never seen a real Canadian complaining about the pride month, so what's the fuss about it nah.

Immigrants sha, una own too much 😀
Who is a real Canadian?
TravelRe: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by jedisco(m): 2:18pm On Jun 08, 2025
Meogom:
Hello guys.
Trying to choose wilhich rate to go with
The options from Barclays are
1) 4.84% for 2ys fixed without product fee
2) 4.67% for 2yrs fixed with product fee of £900
3) 4.67% for 5yrs fixed with product fee of £900.

My mortgage advisor suggests we should go with the first option, as she's positive we can get better rates in 2years.

Whats your advice here please. Will appreciate your insights.
A few bits to consider
I had same thoughts two years ago but then, interest rates where at their peak and many people were worried about higher rates for longer. I felt inflation had dropped and rates should follow hence went variable. Now, I'm unsure about rates. They are likely to fall but it's unclear how low they'd go.

Few things to consider
Would you have ILR in 2 yrs?
Is your work situation likely to change? I.e go from employed to self-employed?
If you're convinced about rates, what is the variable rate for a 2yr fix?

For Barclays, the rates your broker would give you would likely match what the bank publishes online. Worth having a look at it. If the 2yr variable for your ltv is close then it may be better. From the ones listed, I'd likely favour the the 2yr fix thats cheaper overall.
TravelRe: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by jedisco(m): 2:02pm On Jun 08, 2025
The kind of workd people use to describe themselves her says so much about how they think and interract with the outside world. I used to think it's the new arrival syndrome many plagued with on arrival to the west but it's become more obvious it's a deeper complex issue of self-hate and deprecation.

In other news, I see Elon is the latest discardee -more would definitely follow.
Biko when would the Indians start getting it hot hot? Trump is almost 6 months in ooo
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m):
Gerrard59:
The pension system can be revamped in the following ways:

- Citizens handle their pensions
- Retirement ages should be increased to 75
- At a certain age, people should receive less pension.
- Unmarried people should be taxed THRICE as married people. Married people with no children should be taxed twice. Married persons with children should be taxed far less than any other group.

The core issue about low birth rates is not necessarily the costs (Niger Republic has a high birth rate), but modern day women who have deliberately refused to have more children or even marry at all. In East Asia, women are not marrying, and culturally, marriage comes before bearing children. The government should tax unmarried persons very high.
Hehe. These your policies would sure kick out any govt overnight.. There is a reason why PM after PM eventually turns to more migration.
Take the winter feul payments - older folks around me kept complaining about it at every opportunity. One said 'this government wants to kill off the old folks'. Same person has a second house in Spain which he and wife visit for some months every year. Another while complaining is also looking to sell of his house valued at over 500k, then get a quaint bungalow and use the remnant to buy a second house in France.

You can handle your pension if its a SIPP. Regarding state pension, there is no seperate money stored anywhere for it. Na classic ponzi - needs more people coming thru to pay. Finally, na person wey get money dey think abt management.
75? shocked Dude, I'm not prepared to work to 75. Me that is already thinking of which Caribbean beach to routinely visit while sipping pina colada in my 50s

As societies prosper, birth rates decline. First high birth,high death, then high birth, low death then low birth, low death rate. That is where most are and frankly we don’t know what's next. People make the mistake of apportioning low birth rates to high cost of living forgetting the poorest parts of the world have significantly more kids. Even looking into most nations e.g Nigeria, same is the case.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 1:32pm On Jun 08, 2025
Cyberknight:
There are definitely some efficiency gains to be found in every organisation, and these can be found down the line when the new councillors have understood their briefs and the organisations that they run, but ultimately the best long-term solution to getting councils to deliver value for money lies in properly increasing councils' revenue (anathema to Reform-ists and the magic-money-tree general populace) and/or reforming their single greatest expense - adult social care.
Hehe. Reason why I don't get some of the stress over Reform.
With the unforgiving nature of British politics, I'd much rather they have a stint at the helm of affairs than drive policy from the side without bearing any repercussion. Let them make Britain great again make we all enjoy. Only that it might be anxiety provoking for people on visas

It'd be interesting to see all the folks on benefits fare - those who think the reason they can't get their 6-figure cushy job or drive their choice care is because of dem migrants.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 1:19pm On Jun 08, 2025
Emerald138:
Hi everyone, I've been in the UK for nine months now on a student visa, and I've been unable to secure a part-time job, even as a kitchen porter or warehouse assistant. I receive impromptu interview calls, and at the end, they ask about my visa status and when it expires.

When I tell them the month it expires, they say they can't proceed with my application.

I am at my wits' end as I have no way to pay my upcoming bills. I would greatly appreciate any advice, tips and help. Thank you
Have you considered going thru agencies? Students I know tell me they are more flexible. Also, as someone said, you could let them know your PSW is around the corner.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m):
Gerrard59:
Generally, developed countries would have to increase birth rates or revamp the pension system. Something has to give in. The UAE model is good for even immigrants (after all most immigrants are economic in nature), but bad for the pension system in the UK. Another option is to increase taxes, but many wealthier European countries have high taxes and low birth rates. The UAE/Qatari/Singapore model fits smaller and wealthier nations. The alternative for more populated countries would be to increase the birth rate or rework the pension system.
Interesting post you quoted. Things have now matured.

True, the two issues you mention and the pursuit of low migration are what I call the three conundrums most developed nations are dealing with today. The fact is that none knows how to marry these three. Most were looking to Japan to learn but their struggle has become increasingly apparent.

So far, no nation has reliably been able to significantly reverse low birth rates. I think it'd ultimately get to a stage when having kids becomes more fashionable but that'd be decades/centuries away- time which many can't afford. Take the winter fuel payments that did this government the most havoc and its subsequent reversal or the U.S debt issue. Everyone wants freebies with someone else paying for it
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m):
bamituni:
Thanks everyone for you responses! Well appreciated.
Finally, for those looking to start a business, I'd list some pros.

1. You decide how and when you draw your pay- that your company receives 100k does not mean you have to take a salary. You can decide to take nothing or say 12.5k (which is the income tax treshold) as salary and the rest as dividends. Of course, youd still pay some NI on a portion on this income.

2. One can expense running costs of their business. Asides usual business expenditure, If you do some work from home, you can expense a commensurate part of your mortgage or rent (incl utilities) as business costs.


3. Regarding pensions, as a company director, you can make contributions from your company directly to your SIPP. This is also taken as expense before tax is paid but you don't however get the extra government 20 or 40% rebate an individual would get for company contributions made directly from a company. I believe the maximum you can take is your taxable income or the 60k annual treshold (whichever is lower). So in essense, say out of 100k received via ones company, you can theorically put 50k in your pension as an expense before corporation tax is paid. Aside this, you can still make personal SIPP contributions i.e from personal funds and still get the govt rebate.

4. You can invest retained profits. There are few ways of doing this. One would be in your business itself. Another may be via a company investment account which certain providers (e.g Investengine) allow. You can invest retained profits in a global fvnd and unlike with individuals, dividends received by a company are tax-free. Certain caveats apply here. Also, one can start a sister company to get investment properties and loan/invest funds from ones primary company hence keeping things seperate.

5. In pulling out cash- one can be very flexible. If you have a non-working partner or family member, you could enrol them and pay them market rates to work in the company as an admin e.t.c. Irrespective of earnings one can pay themselves an annual salary of say 12.5k and take the rest needed as dividends (lower tax rate than income). Same also for ones partner. This can keep household income below the 50k (or 60k) treshold eligibility for child benefits.

6. Certain fees can also be expensed from a company. E.g life insurance for the directors, professional fees e.t.c

7. Not too uncommonly, there are initiatives targeted at business owners which one can take advantage of. The recent one was electric cars where the 'benefit in kind' payable by the driver was much discounted and the total cost of the car could be discounted in the first year before tax was due. This incentivised most business owners to purchase new electric cars as most of that money would have been paid as tax eitherway. I also did the maths and an electric car was sensible. Too bad their secondhand value decline quickly

8. There has been mention of director’s loan but I dont know how it really works.

9. There are also things like entrepreneurs relief when one comes to close their company which means you can pay much reduced rates on closing ones company with the allowance being upto 1m per person

10. There are discount grocery stores which only serve companies. Common one is Bookers. Got to know about via some healthcare assistants who were working via their company


Cons would be.
1. If you've not got a mortgage, going self employed or working via a ltd co adds another hoop. Most lenders would want 2yrs of trading history.

2. If you need most of the money for day-to-day living then the tax benefits are manytimes little or one may even pay more. Remember you still have to pay corporation tax on profits from a company.

3. Working fulltime via ones company means no employment benefits- sick, study leave etc so you have to factor this in and get adequate insurance.


Personally, I think it works well for many when one holds say a government or NHS role parttime with all its benefits and does the rest via their company.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 10:14pm On Jun 01, 2025
Cyberknight:
The key part might be whether 20 hours can be provable, situation might be similar to those who are self-sponsored under their own company's sponsor licence and perhaps OP might want to consult an immigration lawyer regarding how they can get reliable timekeeping evidence below the threshold.
The thing is that manytimes migrants get into a frenzy about certain things that are not significant issues.

Personally, I dont see the need for an immigration lawyer. If the question is can one have a business, the answer is Yes. As per the bolded, that's the crux- for certain roles, your pay is based on hours worked which reflects on invoices. For others e.g a handyman, who determines? Most local handymen wouldn't even bother with a business. I do not believe ones company can sponsor them (except rules have changed).

I also had many questions about this when I was on a visa. But I don't remember being asked about my company or the 20hr ish when I applied for my ILR. Most of my colleagues did some of their work via their ltd co and I don't know of any where it even came up. The interest was my current and past sponsors.

Employment data is with HMRC and immigration data with UKVI. For now, data isn't broadly shared but things can change.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 7:03am On Jun 01, 2025
bamituni:
Hi all,

For someone on a health and social care visa, can I start my own business as a supplementary job? I know the 20-hour limtation will apply and has to be on the shortage occupation list.

Any ideas on supplementary jobs to boost income will be appreciated.

Thank you.
I'd chip in.

On gov.uk, the wording for skilled and healthcare visa as regards additional work is slightly different (pictured below - first skilled worker and the second healthcare visa). Though health and care does not mention business, I dont see how they'd be different in practice.

If looking at a different job- first thing to consider is whether it'd be a different side hustle or you just doing your usual job via a different set-up. For e.g, a nurse, doctor e.t.c can sometimes do some of their work adhoc via their ltd co. This is different from say a having a hairdressing e.t.c. gig

Second is to see if your contract exempts you from doing such without permission. I know for some nurses, they'd have to update their line manager if they had a second role. For things like this, if it's not explicitly stated one has to highlight it, I wouldn't bother updating my employers.

Thirdly, whether setting up as a company is the best for your circumstance. You can do a side hustle as being 'self-employed' than being incorporated. Being self-emplyed, you'd have to sign up for self-assessment (if you make above a certain treshold) . You can also expense some costs before tax and the money received is yours. With a company, the money isn't yours and it works well when you don't need it to live on. Overall, if well planned, a company is significantly more tax efficient. The advantage being you can decide how and when to retrieve funds. Remember that if you're yet to get a mortgage, there might be an impact.


Regarding what business to run- this would boil down to your individual circumstance- skills, research e.t.c. One place it seems there is need in many localities is a proper Nigerian restaurant. The UK has an 'eat-out' culture and there has been an influx of Nigerians of late. Most Nigerian restaurants I've been to in the south were not well set up but still thrived. One not too long ago opened close to me and I've heard good reviews- I'd visit soon. A restaurant could also go hand-in-hand with delivering cooked meals in decent quantities. I recently paid the equivalent of £375 for some soups/stew. If its a side hustle like say making hair e.t.c, without a saloon e.t.c or starting out, it might just be better to do it as being self-employed. Overall, it's worth speaking to an accountant. Ask around, they're not pricey.

Lastly, though the benefits would outweigh for many, you have to factor in certain costs that come with running a company and compare this to your turnover. You'd pay an accountant yearly. Though this would still likely be the case for being self employed. Overall, if handled properly, having your business can prove more significantly advantageous for many.


P.s though alot is said about the 20hr limit and while things might change, UKVI and HMRC are two different entities and it does not appear they speak to each other. Your company is a different entity to you. That your company did a 40hr job does not automatically mean you did it. You can employ people via your company. For certain roles e.g a nurse, doc e.t.c where you have shifts, it's easy to say how many hours you worked if an audit is required. If you are a plumber, its a different ball game as your bill is based off the job done not hours spent.

Foreign AffairsRe: Putin Consoles Widow Of Slain Prime Minister Of Japan, Akie Abe (Photos) by jedisco(m): 5:01pm On May 31, 2025
Osiris12:
Japanese are too refined abeg

In my next life God, make me a Japanese . Far away fro helinues and cohorts which you will still make dem nigerians and a tinubu will rule over them
Disgraceful! Your post reeks of inferiority complex.

You can hate Tinubu all you like but you dont degrade your self worth.

By the way, I'm not a fan of Tinubu eitherway
Foreign AffairsRe: Kemi Badenoch Faces Backlash For Defending Israel's War On Gaza As Proxy War….. by jedisco(m): 12:02am On May 28, 2025
Righteousness2:
Only Spirtually , Mentally and Physically blind Folks will criticize Kemi for speaking the Undiluted Raw fact
Listen to yourself. I'm sure you'd say same thing is similar treatment was meted out to your people.

Religion is truly the opium of the masses
FamilyRe: Indecent Dressing Of Girls At Children's Day Celebration - Man Raises Alarm by jedisco(m): 11:47pm On May 27, 2025
Does the person who took those pics know that this could count as sexual harassment. If he thinks they have committed a crime, he should report them to the police.

Senseless
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 1:57pm On May 26, 2025
Goke7:
this was the reason they exempted those on a healthcare visa and also refunded those who worked in the healthcare sector who paid IHS previously.

I have seen a British couple who migrated to the US do the math to prove that the health insurance they are paying in the US was cheaper than the amount allocated to healthcare from their yearly taxes in the UK. Now, those are citizens born in the UK, before we even talk about immigrants who paid IHS and are not working in the healthcare sector, to even get a refund. omo e get as e be. Like you said, it may make sense to very low-income earners or those not working at all, but to many middle and high-income earners it's a very big NO!
Hehe.. this your 'no' carry vex.

I thank God for the covid claps and evident need which made taking away IHS for health workers a sensible thing to do. Even for those working outside healthcare, they already pay income tax and NI which is used to fund healthcare. Unfortunately, I don't see it being removed anytime soon.

True, the cost of regular health insurance in the U.S doesn't seem to be exorbitant and with good enough cover you get prompt and good care. The downside is that it manytimes leads to over-investigation but thats a story for another day.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 1:45pm On May 26, 2025
Goodenoch:
1. We're discussing individual choices but overall statistics give an inkling of the average experience, as opposed to focusing on outliers which is what people earning 75k in the UK or 150k in the US are (both circa top 15% earners in each country).

You're fully right though, about using savings to self-insure, and that's where individual analysis comes into play. There are certain salaries which would make me pack my bags and get on a flight this evening to NY, but again statistics reflect that such offers are very rare and that's where using public health stats to assess individual risk becomes neccessary.
Is £75k actually top-15% in the UK? Interesting.
I agree, certain pay uplifts there are surreal. But even on a direct level, on comparing the pay for most roles - nurses, engineers, IT folks e.t.c, the average pay there does come out significantly higher. This is not even taking into consideration that the U.S is a more vibrant economy with better labour mobility and options to choose from both within and among states. This would allow many build side-gigs e.t.c. Housing is for the most part, relatively cheaper too or at least, you get a bigger house for your money.

2. As to why most US people aren't calling for a public healthcare system, I don't know but it doesn't matter. Populaces around the world regularly vote for foolish things that come to bite them in the butt.
Hehe.. Brexit. For some reason, they generally seem more opposed to universlly free healthcare. Maybe it's capitalism at work

3. I'm not saying the UK NHS is the best healthcare system in the world. It's very good and substantially justifies the tax levels, is my sole point. Obviously there are a lot of areas that need to be optimized but the UK ranks very high on the vast majority of public health metrics.
The UK system is brilliant but I don't think it justify the tax paid. Or better put, the cost would be much less if certain safeguards were in place. I manytimes tell myself that if people paid £5 per visit (with appropriate safetynets), that would at least cut the number of contacts I had by upto 25%. Imagine what the consumption of petrol would be if it was 'free' at gas stations
Free stuff no dey belleful.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 1:22pm On May 26, 2025
Goke7:
When I get my Tax summary and see how the government spends it every year, and see what goes in from my tax towards healthcare, and consider what I have also paid for IHS, when I add it up, I feel scammed, the so-called free UK healthcare being preached is over-hyped! and that's the conclusion most skilled professionals have realised. This is not to bash the UK, but stating the obvious from personal verified data.
The UK health model is brilliant but gone are the days of it being the lone-shining star. The entitlement it breeds might ultimately be it's downfall.

IHS is double taxation for anyone paying income tax and NI.

Even if we went to a mandatory co-pay insurance model, it'd cost much less than the IHS to get health insurance for most.

The way resource utilisation in health systems work is like an inverted cone in many regards. It's said that roughly 10% of the population will consume 90% of the health budget. Due to number of reasons, many migrants are unlikely to be in that 10% for a good period.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 12:58pm On May 26, 2025
Goodenoch:
It's not falling through the cracks when between half and two thirds of bankruptcies are due to health issues. https://www.ilr.cornell.edu/scheinman-institute/blog/john-august-healthcare/healthcare-insights-how-medical-debt-crushing-100-million-americans
Is the discussion here about healthcare systems for a nation or individual decisions based on healthcare?

As an individual, Europe (esp the UK) is a good place especially for lower earners with its many safetynets, the downside is that growth is quite restricted. If I was to survive on a minimum wage job (with no progression) in both countries, the UK is a no-brainer.
OTOH, a 75k (gbp or usd) earner here could manytimes earn the equivalent 150k for same job in the U.S. The person in the U.S would pay less tax but have less employment benefits. They could decide to still use savings to get good healthcare cover and still come out better at the end. Between UK and the US, the direction of flow among working professionals is quite clear. There'd be a reason for that.

For a nation, the European healthcare system is better. But then, have you ever wondered why despite all those, instituting a free healthcare system does not seem to be a vote winner for Americans? Even Obamacare faced loads of opposition. I used to also wonder why a country so rich wasn't pushing thru with unviversal free healthcare until I appreciated certain unsaid nuances. America is an outlier in many respects and their unbridled thirst for 'growth by all means' does have it's downside.

If the discussion is about healthcare systems, them some fee paying ones are arguably better than the NHS. Singapore for example set up their health system to minimise some of the issues they envisioned would arise with a universally free one. They made sure for the most part, people pay for it with appropriate safetynets. The UK spends about 11% of her GDP on health, they spend less than half but still have brilliant outcomes (even accounting for lifestyle choices)
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 12:22pm On May 26, 2025
Cyberknight:
Labour is U-turning upandan on previous policies like the WFA and 2 child cap, under pressure from Reform which is picking up and adopting policies anyhow. The proper left is on the march as well. Ms. Rayner called for an increase in IHS and other measures to make things tighter for immigrants. Even The Guardian is firing warning shots (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/25/the-charts-that-show-just-how-worried-labour-should-be-about-the-polls).
Policy-wise, the WFA seems to have done them the most havoc. Haven't met any older person who wasn't seething at the mention of it.
It makes the prospect of our triple-lock more interesting as years roll by.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 12:10pm On May 26, 2025
justwise:
Couldn’t have said it better, the fact that you get treated first despite your immigration status is a huge plus for me. You can not put a price tag on the value of the healthcare system here.
For a population, a system like the NHS is enviable. On an individual basis, the considerations are different.

Many people could double their income and pay less tax while doing same job just by moving to the U.S. An out of pocket insurance would cost much less than the extra tax paid in the UK and also guarantee prompt care -reason why many head that way.

Also, it does seem that universal free healthcare is not a political priority for most Americans. They have interventions that protect most who are struggling and many Americans would say the scaremongering about their healthcare seems to come from Europe and is hardly that way on ground - of course, this is punctuated by stories of some who fell through the cracks.

Lastly, the NHS model is increasingly being called into question. While brilliant, it's sustainability as it matures is suspect. Bottomline is that people would tend to misuse what they see as 'free'. Some countries are now able to achive better or similar outcomes while spending comparatively much less. Even in France, folks pay for GP appts, in Canada, many clinics would charge for missed appts (just like my UK dentist would), in Australia there is copay e.t.c.
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TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 2:33am On May 21, 2025
Treadway:
long long thing

The answers should be like
Based on the refusal/acceptance rates, No, the UK was not easier to enter or Yes, the UK was easier to enter.

You could also go a step further to say the US or Australia or Canada were easier to enter with 50% rejection rate. Na opinion wey you dey entitled to, but at least state your answer clearly. I stated mine clearly, you just typed up another long story without a particular position.

In fact, at least with that same warped logic, we can say Oxford University and Harvard are also easy to enter. Those that went to Teeside only chose to go for Teeside, not that they couldn't have gone to Harvard/Oxford/Yale
Again, you do not cherrypick a 2-3year period out of decades to describe an immigration system - a period nation the nation sees as a mistake and is looking to punitively correct. It's like describing a rapist as being kind cos they gave their victim tfare.

No need belabouring this- these things boil down to perception. I agree with you. As per your initial post. UK was so easy they were even paying folks to come study here. Those who came here should thank their stars and accept whatever - they'd have been living on trees otherwise.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 10:40pm On May 19, 2025
Treadway:
but wait o Jedi, you still no answer the quesshion o. Jedi oya dahun ibeere mi, answer the question. A portion of your response was def an answer quite alright, but indulge me with an answer that is explicit and clear. Based on those stats, which of those three destinations logically and reasonably is/was/can be deemed to be easiest one to enter/get/achieve?

I'm not letting you go just yet😁

Because na literally wetin we talk wey bruise fragile egos be that


I take God beg you, no make e long💯🙏🏼👏🏼

In 2019 refusal was around 35%, in 2022 refusal rate was around 60%, 2023 - 38%, 2024 (when everywhere began casting) above 50%. Meaning between 2019 to 2024 at least, the same time period, some people were having 100% success rate and others were having from 40-60% success rate... across various nationalities.

But no ooo, awa professors here say it wasn't easier🤣
Again, you are cherrypicking and coming to undue conclusions. You are taking a relative rise in recent migrants to the UK and using that to drive a narrative. That's not how to handle data.

First, looking at modern migration, it has always tilted towards certain groups at different points in time. It's not down to some genetic quality hiding somewhere. What you're doing is taking a small subset from a short period and using it to make vast extrapolations. What happened to the period between 2012 and 2020? How many Nigerian students saw any future in the UK? Compare that to the number of PRs canada handed out despite the fact we have little historical affiliation to them. Getting into Canada would have been easier for me 6 years ago. Geeting a Canadian PR was also several levels easier than the UK ILR - migration is manytimes individualised.


Secondly you're making the error of correlating the relative increase in number of arrivals over the last few years to some undue benevolence. That's false equivalence. The reason you saw more people arrive was down to need and the political error around Brexit. That is why the populace and the political class increasingly see those arrivals as a generational error in need of fixing. Who is to say that if the time to ILR is made 10yrs today for them, some other government would not double it to 20? And you'd still come preach benevolence- afterall, they wouldn't have got in elsewhere.

Two issues here is that first, the Canadian system has over decades let in more people and secondly, the relatively rise in the number of immigrants into the UK recently is not due to British benevolence.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 4:29pm On May 19, 2025
Goke7:
Let’s not mix things up, those am referring to are never recent migrants, they are the so called egbons with scarcity mindset who feels the recent migrants are choking them up and must be expelled so they (recent migrants) can go sit their butts back in naija. That’s how they hate it when they see japa 2.0 and condemn it saying it’s not greener anywhere. I can tell you that most recent migrants who were initially carried away with the rhetorics from kemi and co are now seeing things differently especially those who are yet to get ilr cos hand don touch them now and everyone is now getting aware of their rights. The most religious ones have even taken their case to baba God cos e no funny again. I have a colleague who is a great admirer of Trump who recently told me e no know say the baba wicked like that 😂 I said tooo abi na FAFO!
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TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 4:15pm On May 19, 2025
Treadway:
Na just student visa acceptance/refusal rates be that o...not even fierce competition like express entry. If no be canny wey try small by introducing category based draws (which both home-based and foreign-based are benefitting from), and the recent caregiver scheme for example, I for like see just how many of our very super competitive mid 30's to 40+ year olds wey enter to study in youkay for fit enter canny on express entry, since according to una many of them go fit hit 500 and above CRS points, as una don learn
French for that youkay wey you dey so, and have become 10years younger 🤣🤣🤣
Again, I think the issue here is the mentality.

Canada did not 'try' to let in anyone. They did no one undue favours. Thaey needed the skills that were not served by their previous system and updated their system to get those skills. Need vs want again
Some countries such as Ireland, Canada, U.S Aus/OZ after years of lack and its attendant effects have become much more receptive of foreign trained medical professionals in certain fields. Again, they are not doing those coming an undue favour. They need those skills and both sides tend to benfit.. Even with the proposed changes, why is the UK still looking to exemp certain folks?

Every immigration system has it features. The UK has commoditised its immigration system hence it might seem more accesible to certain groups but same also can be said of others. People would find what suits them.
TravelRe: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:51pm On May 19, 2025
Zahra29:
I have no idea what your tenants might think I'm afraid, there were no riots or any type of disturbance in my town or neighbouring towns so I have no experience.
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