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dannytoe:
Why the government plans further cuts to net migration. The social care sector is already feeling the heat.

Meanwhile due to previous history of visa abuse, some foreign Nationals are about to get banned from getting a visa to come to the Uk .

Spaces in the care sector are already opening though there is still relative glut.

Agencies that used to offer escalated rates plus mileage/transport but stopped when alot of entrants arrived are now beginning to improve pay as shifts are gradually becoming more difficult to fill.

Goodenoch:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/07/dont-mention-the-local-elections-keir-and-kemi-sign-non-aggression-pact-at-pmqs

Hehe... 'cupboarder' and 'cupboardee' foming a pact.... Interesting times.

Fairly early days but KS should fastrack his plans and try to deliver on houses.

Its all exposes the dilema politicians over the last 20yrs have faced- everyone complains about the state of public sevices but when the try to raise money via taxing certain segments, reducing fraud or bringing in good minds to help grow the economy, they get a backlash. People want to have their cake and eat it.

Its for this sole reason and good checks in place that I don't mind NF at the helm - would be better than him being the main opposition.

bigtt76:
Hahaha. ...no mind am. Her first election she lost woefully, instead of doing a retrospect to identify the issue and work towards rectifying it (what she was voted in to do) she de try gaslight her party people. They just sweep her away dem don begin cook for am https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kemi-badenoch-conservative-leader-tories-b2745085.html

Interesting read. It seems her colleagues are cooking a pot of soup for her. Reminds me of what we say about a community cooking for one person. Wouldn't be surprised she finds a way to hang on, drag it out and destroy their chances further.

One thing I've noticed is that she is no more talking about Nigeria. The two blokes are keeping her busy.

Goke7:
It’s typical human behaviour- Scarcity mentality and when you think those you imagine to be a higher stock than are supposedly doing better or at par with you.

As a Christian one parable or story in the bible comes to mind about a master who employed servants to work for him, he went out in the morning and got some workers, later in the afternoon and evening he went out again and got more workers, meanwhile he agreed with them their wages and paid them but when the earlier workers discovered that everyone irrespective of their arrival got same wages, they went to grumble to the master about perceived injustice 😂. The master simply reminded them about their agreement. Na so life be o, bad belle dem, so it’s nothing new.

Hehe... not heard of this parable. Had to look it up.

It's comical truth be said especially when we know their progenitors faced far worse than what migrants today face and their relatively lower attainment can be manytimes traced back to constrained opportunities that were afforded their parents. KS put it well when he termed them defenders of western civilisation.


Reminds me of someone I encountered on the Nigerians in Canada thread who was singing praises of how British migrants built canada all in a bid to gatekeep 'third worlders' (his words) he thought were 'spoiling his promised land'. Had to remind him that the new group of British arrivals looks a bit different from their earlier compatriots.

Good one from the hospital for taking this to court

Diplomacy2020:
It seems we still don't get the business side of real estate in the UK. Overpaying your mortgage could necessarily not be the smartest move, infact, real estate wealth was not created by paying off your mortgage rather it comes from the increase in value of the property. As the value of your property increases, the size of your loan decreases.
That is why location is the utmost priority in real estate deals. Don't just buy a house cos of its proximity to your workplace or school. There are various websites that project property values(both sales and lettings) within your localities. I used one of them when I was buying. I will look for it when I'm free.
In a nutshell, I would rather save that overpayment along with my equity and reinvest in another property or other profitable business.

Good submission. Inflation erodes debt while capital gains does the heavy lifting

It's difficult to quantify the peace of mind that comes with a paid off mortgage though or one well paid down as we advance towards retirement.

For investment purcahses, even a conservative person can adopt a purely business based approach.

Senseless reporting. What is 'compassion'.
Increasing staff pay moreso when it's not even in line with inflation is not compassion. It should be expected

Kudos to them but we should remember the money they get is peanuts compared to countries that process cocoa into chocolate e.t.c.

If I remember correctly, just about 5% or so of the value chain is in countries that grow the beans.

The govt, farmers and investors should pivot from just growing to sell to adding more value i.e processing cocoa into finished goods for both local consumption and export.

Kudos to the EFCC for looking to stamp out this worrisome habit. If those spraying money have so much, they should give it to the poor

Prophetess.. is she seeing the future?

Zahra29:
LOL @ "your people". Your comments do make me laugh sometimes😂

It's a mystery what you're upset about this time
Are you aggrieved that Kemi and other so called "anchor babies" obtained citizenship by virtue of their birth? Ndo....why don't you write to Reform and ask Nigel to investigate whether Kemi's mother paid the full hospital fees for her birth? If she didn't, it means that she wrongfully used public funds and I'm sure Farage and co would eagerly make a case for her citizenship to be revoked? I hope this would help to appease you?

Focus- there is no anger here. No need looking for a deviation.

Like I've always said, the story of our world is one of migration. I do not see myself as being more British than Kemi or similar arrivals cos while I paid over £150k in taxes e.t.c, demonstrated good service and behaviour to gain my stay, her parents snuck her in before a deadline was due. They saw an opportunity and took it which I'd commend them for. Same applies across board.

The crux of the matter here is how children grow up to forget their stories. If my son decides to settle in Britain tomorrow, I don't expect him to see himself as being of higher stock than those he'd encounter to the extent of calling them bottom wipers just because his parents arrived early.

Lexusgs430:
She was on a visiting visa, that was always getting renewed........

But there's a 6 month limit in each calendar year for most visit visas. Except the person keeps alternating every 6 months between 9ja and the UK

I have heard of those who'd process a visit visa for someone and then pay them in naira - usually turns out cheaper than childcare/nursery even for 6 months. It's a tricky one as many recipients may be better off but it's still a breach of visit visa rules.

Some seem to have an arrangement where the person overstays their visa and returns when dem don 'chop belleful'. It's all muddy and convoluted.

Of late Canada introduced a home child care immigration pilot. However, they had to close it off as applications reached the annual limit in a day.

Goke7:
😂 Where Canada changed course our people here as usual still stuck to their ways fantasising about an ideology that has contracted the gdp of the US. They should continue las las everybody go chop same breakfast

Hehe... Canada was quite interesting. It appeared the conservative party there was too aligned to Trump, riding his wave and then struggled to find their foot when he went rogue. UK is different in the sense that Trump is not liked but the populace still leans right.

There are things that aren't worth worrying over. Just like with PMB, you can't convince certain cohorts.

If folks want something radical, let them have it. Afterall, if the economy becomes better, we'd all be beneficiaries.

wallg123:
There are more Filipinos and Indian house helps/ house keepers in the UK but we don't see them making headlines. They work for some of the wealthiest people/ families. example footballers, politicians and diplomats. There are registered agencies that would provide you house help within and outside the UK. Make use of them to avoid story that touch. Or take your children to childminders. Life is simple but people just complicate it for the sake of saving few £

Why didn't she seek a registered homehelp who has clearly defined duties, pay, e.t.c? Truth be said, such laws are the bedrock of a fairer society

Its not just an African issue. Even Indians are not left out. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3ggl6pe52eo

Lexusgs430:
I had a friend that brought a maid from Nigeria, she was with them for over 7 years..... They treated her almost better than they treated themselves and their kids.......

The Judas in maid, still struck husband and wife..... They both went down for 36 & 49 months respectively....... 🙄

Hehe...
On what visa was she here for 7 yrs?

People should just forget getting home helps from 9ja and get on how others do. Its tough but doable

I have always found it interesting how descendants of people who were hounded and faced significantly worse discrimination than recent migrants in their days turn around and be fierce arbiters of who is worthy to be here or not. Some oddly think themselves to be of a higher stock which I find laughable. History is there to instruct.

Zahra29:
It wasn't a loophole; it was the default position from the creation of the CW that allowed most people from the CW to move freely to the UK. Similar to EU freedom of movement, but with automatic citizenship. They then changed the law, similar to Brexit, to make it more difficult to acquire British citizenship.

Not everyone who came to the UK was part of the Windrush - many moved to the UK long before the Windrush ship landed, some moved as citizens in later years.

All this to obsfucate the well known history of how a good chunk of your people came here.

You do realise that the challenges they faced can't be hidden. The local populace saw them as taking advantage of a loophole with the government increasingly doing more to curtail arrivals manytimes specifically targeting specific groups especially those from the Carribibean. Most of these ultimately resulted in Tatcher putting an end to citizenship by birth. Even today Many still regard the likes of Kemi as the last beneficiaries of that.

ariesbull:
Certainly!
Alberta Eyes U.S. Statehood? Petition Sparks National Debate

A new petition circulating in Alberta is calling for the province to leave Canada and become the 51st U.S. state—a bold move rooted in long-standing frustrations over federal policies and economic disparities.

Interesting... saw this graph a ehile back.

Brexit and recent global events have shown such narratives shouldn't be taken for granted as they can slowly fester and in these days of social media algorithms, be even pushed on by foreign powers with aim to destabilise the nation.

I hope Carney has the guile to calm tensions without feeding the beast.

Zahra29:
.... Once upon a time, many years ago, most members of the commonwealth, including my family, were automatically British subjects and could freely live and work in the UK as citizens. Then they changed the laws, mainly because they felt that too many people from certain continents were coming in. (Immigration has been a dicey issue for decades)....

Easy with the emotion.

By 'they' u mean the landlords?

So your family were part of the windrush crew who took advantage of British benevolence before that 'loophole' was closed. I gather most of them who claimed to have 'built' Britain started crying foul when the government asked them to go back and build their own country. Hehe.. We stood with them as brothers afterall. Quite comical now seeing some of their descendants say 'we don't want dem migrants in our country'. We all have our 'ojuelegba' afterall.

justwise:
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That is the key point there, loan condition is where the body is buried and have you noticed that most of these contracts are carried out by Chinese companies? Airport, rail , road contractions etc are done by Chinese companies.

True... it's one we should confront but it's not that straightforward.

Have you noticed all projects done by Chinese companies which are funded by Chinese loans are of decent quality and most importantly end up being completed? I hate to ask but would you say with reasonable certainty that if we freely borrowed (without terms) say $ 2B for the Kaduna rail, it would have been completed?

I hate to say it- some of the terms of the Chinese are infantalising but they also get the goods delivered. This is in contrast wo what we lend from the IMF e.t.c some at higher rates which disappear into thin air. The Chinese companies know they can't take money from their government and not deliver. Also, the host nation manytimes needs to provide some counterpart funding beforehand to demonstrate their interest. The fact that the hands of certain politicians are somewhat tied means they can't inflate the cost by several multiples while asking for the loan to be wired to their individual accounts.

We as a nation could address that issue through several means- one could be by local content rules mandating even the Chinese companies to use a majority of Nigerians e.t.c. afterall we issue the visas. We could also negotiate a split of construction companies with local and Chinese companies handling big projects concomitanly but that means we also have to hold local contractors to a high standard and the understanding that the money wouldn't be used to settle boys.

AirBay:
They cant hear most people because they trying to speak like them and too fast

Nigerians should stop forming oyinbo accents and speak normally. There is nothing wrong with our accents.

Americans cannot pick up when British ppl speak, Australians hate American accents. Even English people struggle when scottish or welsh people speak.

Wetin philipino, mexican, india people go say if you say Nigerian accent is bad, na our people dy form accent wy there tongues are not made for. Nothing problematic about the way we speak.

Well said,
You speak confidently and loud and folks would hear. It's up to those who don't to ask or sort themselves out. Also, we shouldn't be afraid to throw in our own 'pardon' when we don't hear them or when we feel they are being annoying.

when I visit 9ja, people still ask why my accent has not changed. I tell them it never will.
Recently, I had to explain to a relative back home that the English they speak is as good as it gets and comparable in quality to English spoken in the UK. Reminded them I have taken IELTs twice with less than 2 weeks preparation and came out with top scores and I don't speak better than they do. Still told them that English is another language I speak among many others (Hausa, pidgin, Igbo). Most Englishmen speak only one language. I stopped leaning English after I completed secondary school and I am certainly confident of my control of the language and I'm not seeking further learning on it.

I often speak to very old people- most who have hearing issues. I once had a question come my way on what the older people who struggle to hear do. My response was simple- they do not have a choice. I also struggle to hear them and make the effort to- again they do not have a choice. Or would that be asked to a northern English man or Scotsman most of whom I struggle to hear?
The person speaking started mumbling. Finally had to let him know we have more English speakers in Nigeria than there are people in GB


We need to understand that we are here on our merit and we speak and write English which is also another language.

ferfer:
Haha, benefit, eh!...sarcastic Wednesday.

The election has come and gone. A few personal takeaways -


3) The infatuation with reducing complex issues to simple terms is a dangerous habit. It was too easy to point at Trudeau as the reason for the increase in cost of living and inflation....

6) The major source of disagreement between the Liberal-led Ottawa and Conservative-leaning resource-rich provinces like Alberta, Saskatchewan has been the lack of 'empowerment' of the energy sector in these provinces. When two behemoths tussle, the minions around will be strafed.
An ideal situation for us immigrants is to get to a point where these political swings/strife does not lead to major turnarounds in our ‘economy’. If that means we need to explore ways of having viable, long-term careers that confer immunity to the boom-bust cycle of the energy sector so as to preserve and improve the strength of our communities, then so be it.

Well said especially the bolded. I have seen thesame in the UK where the right wing solution to everything is 'just end migration'
From traffic, to British youths not joining the military, to education, crime, healthcare e.t.c their answer is 'end migration'.

The average bloke hears that and tells himself dem immigrants are the reason for my state.

I'm fairly new to Canadian politics but the strife between Alberta + Saks needs to be sorted out. Carney should have this top on his list.

As migrants (as with everyone alike), we're inextricably linked to the economy we live in. Even high paying jobs e.g those in oil and gas can be retrenched during a downturn. But true, we need to start adressing the real issues for our problems and not heaping it on others.

Trump did this one well...

justwise:
Well...some Africans countries are deep neck into Chinese pocket, China may not be successful in interfering in some micro-economical policies of some African countries but they have a strong grip of their economy.

True... the wider conversation would be how African nations can generate funding for infrastructure inhouse by driving growth. Might seem a chicken and egg issue but definitely doable. In the interim, the terms of loans we seek should be improved on irrespective of origin

Cyberknight:
We're mourning your impending departure to Carneyland, which will leave Zahra bereft and inconsolable.

Na 'Carneyland' finally.... I dont know which 'expat' to carry for head now- British expat, Nigerian expat, even Canadian expat abi expat pro max.
Trump did a good one there sotay even the conservative leader lost his seat. Carney has a brill CV though, to be headhunted to be BOE head while not being British says it all.

Abeg free our lady....hehe. Lady who has refused to tell us how she + family stumbled upon a British kpali. Whether is was a boat arrival aka windrush or anchor baby situation... who knows

Senseless. What are they warning Nigerians for.

They are lacking in their responsibility to protect the masses. They in hand with EFCC, CBN e.t.c should seek these nefarious actors out and prosecute them.

Enough of the finger pointing

Poor reporting.
The article should have first explained what tbps means in clear simple language.

Tochitee:
Emzor woman she tried! Na one of the people wey supposed Dey worship tinubu be this for given her an enabling environment for her business to thrive! But spirit of ingratitude reign supreme in them,na their second nature!

You are disgrace and have a slavish mentality.

Worship a man who stole a mandate and has brought hardship onncitizens - almost cutting our gdp in half and entrenching rampant inflation. People like you are the reason Nigeria is how it is today.

What would citizens of UAE, Australia e.t.c do? Sacrifice their kids to their politicians?

Frizzy128:
telecoms technician

I am unsure what the average pay for this role is but these days, you could easily confirm the pay for a role online. Online fora like Reddit is usually a good resource for things like this.

Also, worth noting that with most western nations, it's much easier to climb the ladder once one has local experience. This doesn't mean he should undercut himself but helps him understand with time, provided he has the right mindset, he'd become more indispensable and can go for the more desired roles.

Finally, one can manytimes negotiate pay in a sensible manner especially if there's good evidence in support
All said, good he's thinking widely.

This place is getting quieter....

Interesting thread I stumbled upon. Nice weekend read..

Still didn't find an answer to the question on why they care?

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAnAfrican/s/IuIhlcVebg

Frizzy128:
his option is to stay back in Nigeria with 250k naira job in Lagos

Good step. This should likely result in an uplift in his standard of living

His pay would be dependent on the role and his experience

Wat role is the new job in?

Quite disturbing moreso finding this on front page.

No measure of 'IQ' is standardised or acceptable across all demographics.
If this is to represent inate intelligence, how would an online test be used knowing fully well the literacy level and internet availability differs across nations? Also, how did they correct for the obviously relatively lesser numbers taking the test in certain parts?

Furthermore, intelligence is measured across a wide variety of domains. Messi is a genius in thesame vein as a top mathematician or physicist is. There are several forms of intelligence which are difficult to measure.


What's even more worrying is seeing people here chorus and repeat this- believing themselves to be of a low 'IQ' because an article somewhere posted such. What many fail to appreciate is that such narrative formed the bedrock of slavery for many centuries and a way by which even those thought to be morally or religiously upright excused it. Afterall, they believed Africans were sub-human.

@Seun @mods. This thread is worrying and one that shouldn't be promoted.