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RodgersAkpafu:
Nigeria does not have an "Igbo problem"
What Nigeria has is some deluded people who psychologically and delusionally think that somehow igbos designation in Nigeria is "second class citizen" status, a status we SOUNDLY REJECT in Nigeria

They should sha stop doing "pajeet" things

Hehe. I wonder who the 'we' are. This is easy for you to say as you come from the East- millions of Nigerians over decades and till today disagree with you which has led to severe bloodshed.
Are they all wrong? Surely, if most other ethnicities thinks they are a problem, then they must be an issue with them.

Many would say, we have some good Igbos but its the 'nyamuris' among them that are the problem. Which one are you?

RodgersAkpafu:
Alright
Now that you are on the topic
Let's "go there"

First of all, I am an Igbo person, but that will not demagnetise my objectivity on the subject matter
...
It's like a yoruba person getting offended when people say SOME yoruba people can be filthy, lazy and spendthrift, or a northerner offended when people say that the north is the terrorist producers in nigeria....
I have dated yoruba women who were not dirty

The question is simple - are Igbos i.e nyamuri's not the problem with Nigeria?
Millions of them have been killed over decades because some feel they refused to learn, yet they keep coming back. Do more need to die?
How does Nigeria deal with the 'Igbo problem'?


I see the bolded- classic. Its quite clear where your stock comes from.
How about- 'though some are decent, the average black people is not more than a monkey however I am not racist because I have black friends'

Samuelobiora19:
Hello Community,
Please, is there anyone here that has a robust knowledge of how the TRUCKING BUSINESS in Canada is like..?? I am thinking of taking a chance on entrepreneurship here, though I am working a great job here in Canada.. I want an early exit from corporate Canada and would want to own a business.

Owning a business is one of the easier paths to financial independence as there are many perks to it. My only issue is that is sounds like you're looking to own a business in a sector you don't know much about. There's always a first step though. I'd say the initial step should be gaining more practical knowledge in that sector- that way, you know where the need is and how to run it efficiently
Alternatively, you could look at a business not far removed from what you are currently doing- that way, you already the knowledge advantage.

ednut1:
you can’t compete with the Indians o 😩. They have achieved economics of scale in the business. (Access to cheap staff from their communities, access to contracts, access to cheap mechanics in their communities) etc
Unless you want to drive the truck yourself as an owner operator.

He can always start from somewhere just as others with a good network effect.
There is virtually no profitable business sector that does not have entrenched interests. In the corporate world, it may even be worse as many of these interests have become institutionalised.

ferfer:
Some POVs. ....

2) The hot mic comments (I do not even believe it was a true hot mic. JT is no clown but he's crafty - remember he and Macron are the only leader of a G7 nation that survived COVID. These embers are dying but they can burn) by Trudeau yesterday means the orange-haired one's motive matches his comments. But his action is having the opposite effect, Canadians are not rolling out the red carpet to welcome 'America'. Now Canadians are unified (?) against his 51st state comments.

Interesting times.... Trump is certainly not helping the fortunes of the conservatives in Canada. Time would tell how this translates to votes especially if Trump keeps pushing

RodgersAkpafu:
It's actually interesting

What is actually interesting? Are you saying that all those who have shared their experience with them are wrong?

Are you trying to say you have not experienced that with them?

I have seen many people who'd say they'd never do anything with Igbos. Even Chinua Achebe said they can be quite haughty, proud and thoughtless (what others might call lack of emotional intelligence).


How are they not the problem with Nigeria?

RodgersAkpafu:
Interesting

What's interesting about my post? Haven't you seen those or NL or X or are they new to you?

Viruses:
Will you refer to people that got Canadian PR from Nigeria and eventually relocated as expatriates or migrants?

If you still believe those words are the same no problem.

Both. I am yet to see any definitive difference between both words (I am not talking about individual bias here) . If you have any, please share.

Zahra29:
Again I'm keeping it simple- how did you/family stumble upon a British passport?

- Make it complicated if you like...

Expansive writeup. So in summary, were your parents windrush arrivals or was it an anchor baby situation or some other pathway?

Yes, I've read of the windrush crew- they were great builders some believe. Infact they built most of modern Britain I gather.

Lolli2pop:
Heyyy investment and financial gurus.

Please i would like to start organising my finances.

After bills i have like about 600 pounds to save. Instead of just putting the 600 in my llyods savings account to sit there (1.15% yearly interest) and do nothing i think its best to get my money to work.

After my research i realised rhe 3 safest thing to do will be to split yhe money into a life time investment ISA (to be ablt to buy a property in the future), put some in a cash isa and then a little bit into stocks and shares ISA.

Please gurus what are your thoughts on this?? Does anyone have any tips, advifes or even suggestions of great platforms i can use for any of the 3 isa areas i mentioned.

I'm not a guru

Personally, I'd start by envisioning how much I'm likely or target to save over the course of the year. Then secondly, how soon would I be looking to buy a house- if its above 3 yrs (some say 5), I'd rather go with S&S Lisa as the returns are likely to be better. Except you have big pockets, when buying a house, you're likely to empty most of your savings eitherway

600x 12 = 7.2k.
I'd first fill my LISA - S&S preferably.
The rest would be a split of S&S ISA and some cash for as emergeny funds. I tend to keep the minimal cash I need- but thats just me

Viruses:
I believe if you travel to a new country to settle down permanently, you are an immigrant. Whether you eventually settle down or move about for various reasons is a different issue.

Except you're inferring that those on tier 2 for instance are expatriates and will only become immigrants after ILR.

The line of thought here is clear- what's the difference between an expat and a migrant? It's not really about what you believe- these are distinct words with clear meaning.

Migrant
Immigrant
Emigrant
Expatriate

Migrant= expat. Both immigrants and emigrants fall under the umbrella term of migrant. Regarding duration, it's also catered to. There is a reason why 'temporary migrant' is a commonly used phrase to qualify migrants who are not moving permanently.

RodgersAkpafu:
Let's hear from you
Cite instances of HOW they are the prob with Nigeria.
Let's check notes

I have heard on Nairaland and Twitter how they are the problem with Nigeria- how they killed 'good' Nigerian leaders in a coup, how they only sell fake goods, how they only do drugs, how they only engage in pr0stitvtion, how landlords don't want to rent to them, how 'shinedu' should never be allowed to aspire for any political position outside the East, how they are the ones supplying bokoharam drugs and guns, how they only cheat in exams, how the north got tired of them resulting in many riots over time where thousands of them were killed, how anyone of them who is rich is usually engaged in fraud, how any of them should never be allowed to be the Nigerian president, how violence should be meted out to any who dares come out to vote outside their region. Infact some have advocated or gone on to kill when a wanted political candidate didn't win. Even the wife if the current president had something negative to say about them

Igbos have been receiving it heavily on Twitter - if you have not experienced their attitude, then its either you are one of them or have not met them.

orjohn24:
Calling people out for bad behavior is not hatred. You are simply acting unwisely. Many Canadians are already calling them out, and they are resorting to the same weak defense of hiding behind accusations of racism—just like you are doing now. Sorry, but your defense is weak!

So how is nairaland the best place to call the out?
Why not walk up to the next Indian you see and call him or her out or carry a placard calling them names?
If you continue being preoccupied with them rather than improving ourselves or community, how do you expect to rise?

deept:
Profiling in reality is what happens. Instead of getting angry at the 'profilers', as a black man, I would rather educate and encourage our set to do better because it is the same brush that we will all be painted with. If you don't give anybody any weapon to to use against you, there would be nothing to profile against

That it happens in certain areas (and is actively fought against) is not an excuse to perpetuate that or speak in its favour. Afterall, same could have been said if homophobia, apartheid e.t.c
I remember speaking quite strongly about the recurrent theme of posting any crime commited by a Nigerian here under the guise of 'warning us' to do better. Thankfully, it died down. We dont need it. There are over 200million Nigerians and over 1billion black folks. The activity of a random black person somewhere does not weigh on my psyche is thesame way I do not except every white person to be remourseful or 'warning themselves' beacause of crime commited by random whites.

Lastly, this appears isolated. Is there any evidence to show that this crime is a systemic issue and if so, is there an overrepresentation of Nigerians? If the answer to both is yes, my concern would first be how to guard against profiling and then how to address underlying drivers in a decent manner.

deept:
Correct. Unfortunately, this is real life.

Goodenoch, is this discrimination against the Ghanians?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFC3Il8scMf/?igsh=ZG9sMm9wODhwNDEx

No disrespect to anybody, but I just want to understand your argument.

When data shows that there is a particular set/group of people are disproportionately committing a particular offence, to curb it, isn't it prudent to put that particular set under greater scrutiny to reduce the problem?

I don't get. Are you really arguing in favour of profiling? That some parts of a system are still that way is well different from speaking in its favour.

Not to long ago it was revealed the home office it was revealed the home office had same approach and many African nationals were on the reveiving end of vague requirements inappropriate visa refusals. Unsurprisingly, they were quick to abandon this following the expose. It wasn't difficult to see how this self-reinforcing system became increasingly unfair.

With profiling first you have the issue of reinforcing a negative spiral with resultant far-reaching effects. Secondly, it creates a gaping blindspot which is almost always taken advantage of.

Recently, whether its black lives or end-SARS riots or police brutality, or going father back and you have senseless killings, apartheid e.t.c. Many recent genocides always started on that narrative until they blew out of proportion. As a black person, we have enough experience of certain things to know what to oppose.

Grfront:
Hello everyone. I have few questions to ask.

Have you looked at the school fee for international undergrad programmes in the UK?
Except you have deep pockets or are awarded a scholarship, its an uphill task. Also following that pathway to migrate is full of uncertainties as it's difficult to say what the economic/political situation wiuld be in 5yrs.

It's my understanding that many parts of IT are skill-based though you need a degree to help with certain things incl migration.

Have you considered enrolling for a computer/IT- based degree locally? During your programme, you could upskill + do jobs on the side. By the time you're done, you should be past 30 with good experience under your belt and exempt from NYSC. You may decide to remain in 9ja and benefit from opportunities or look at a masters route to migrate which is more predictable in an ever-changing world. Your might even get a remote or international offer right from 9ja if you have the relevant experience.

Zahra29:
...

I'm all of the following: anchor baby, Windrush descendant, expatriate farm worker, international student, Nigerian immigrant, Yardie...
- pick whichever you fancy.

Stop dillydallying
You don't sound very proud of your Caribbean heritage. For me (and most of us), our stories are quite inscribed on our posts here through the years- it's our journey afterall.
Again I'm keeping it simple- how did you/family stumble upon a British passport?


P.s. if you are asking whether I consider myself migrant or expat. From previous responses, the answer should be obvious. I consider both words synonymous hence I'm both as most here are.

Viruses:
Expatriate is different from migrant, they are not even synonymic so it's pointless trying to blur one into the other. They are as different as temporary and permanent

I'm yet to see a consistent difference between the two. Length of residence does not qualify in any definitive manner. Many 'expats' relocate longterm (some to retire) and many 'migrants' move temporarily.


This is a clear example of how the synonymous words can be used to drive different narratives - something the british media is very good at. Lastly, also realise that this has been discussed extensively in many ways going back decades. Its nothing new- reason why I was surprised when I saw the first hole being dug.

Maria96:
the gist came from someone working there. Not everything is released externally. If you have friends in the bank ask them.

By the way this is from today . Truck driver Komalpreet Sidhu arrested at the Boissevain port of entry with 406.2 kg of alleged meth . These are the people you are supporting. A people determined to use mago mago to scatter the country for us all . Lmao
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-man-boissevain-border-narcotics-bail-1.7102339

Quite rich coming from a Nigerian.

Should we discuss how Igbos are the problem with Nigeria?

So far, Trumps shenanigans hasn't had a significant effect on the Canadian market as he seems to have been posturing.
I wonder how that'd feed into the next election with the current government raising alarm bells

Lexusgs430:
Una don hear the latest torry wey dey town.............😂😁

Two Nigerian women arrested for sitting life in the uk test, for other women..... Immigration burst don happen..... 😁😎

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdUBNbgH/

Hmm.. how was this even possible? Isn't there a fingerprint authentication method?

When I took the test, I kept wondering what the whole security and checks were for.

Zahra29:
You and your (not so merry) band of supporters are so desperate to paint me as some type of arch-villian. Sorry to keep disappointing you.

Hehe.. Zahra.

You have always been warmly welcomed in our midst (apart from when there were riots for obviour reasons)

All said, I have always wondered about your story - I know you are of West Indian/Carribean heritage. Unlike some Reform members, I wouldn't ask where you are 'originally' from. How did you/family come about a British passport. Were you an anchor baby or were your parents/progenitors part of the Windrush arrivals?

Goke7:
you're becoming accustomed to vawulence, let peace reign bruv before we go spend 20 years collect ILR

Hehehe... if only she could

A few posts ago, I asked if she'd be in support of our carers (and dependent family) getting their ILR and becoming citizens in 5 + 1 yrs. That was unsurprisingly sidestepped.

Goodenoch:
😄

The whole discussion has been hilarious.

Everyone in the world knows that no one calls farm workers expatriates despite the technical meaning of the word, and everyone knows precisely why, but let those deceiving no one but themselves continue - It's fun to watch.

I'm yet to see any definition of expat that isnt synonymous to migrant. The only difference is that migrants from western nations prefer to call themselves expats.

One needs to understand Z to engage. Now she's waxing lyrical about why I am particular about the definition. Trying to drag things off tangent just because I asked her one simple question.

Our expatriate farmers at work. I see Britain let in over 30k farming expatriates last year.

I'm glad the definition was self-given beforehand to limit the room for hole-digging by Z

Talk about tying ones self up in knots.

Cyberknight:
This might fall on receptive Labour ears. Labour's currently looking for some red meat to throw to the Faragists and shore up its own position on immigration. It's apparently deporting out-of-status people at an almost-Obamaesque rate, but people aren't noticing that. They'll probably need to empty London of almost all its black and brown people and all the bad drivers and delivery folk and return it to being a 1960s white British stronghold before the voting public give them some credit.

Fingers crossed- I doubt it'd get any traction though. But by bringing up the conversation, they can always return at a later date or blame labour. The funny thing is that I wonder what the aim is or how they hope to drive growth aside looking to impoverish the group they call migrants by draining more visa fees from them and limiting their career growth.

Na their way. You can also see it chorused by their minions. They'd blame migrants for low pay in the care sector without holding the govt responsible for the many visas it issued. Or blame migrants for house prices while still blocking new builds.

Goke7:
The care workers are the main target, they just want to ensure that cohort and others who came in then never gets ilr.

True... reason why they mentioned backdating it to 2021. Already the right wing media had started driving the narrative weeks back. Just like the rape scandal, Kemi is only latching on to see if she could get some traction.

That's my issue about the conservatives and how they went about migration. It seemed folks just sat and thought about the best ways to denigrate migrants while still letting record numbers in. Like I've always said, if they dont need migrants, they should end it. The funny thing is that if these folks start leaving to other western nations, na still dem go complain.

I doubt this would get anywhere under labour though. Thankfully, as said earlier, Starmer would oversee the irreversible integration of our able care workers into the fabric of British society.

Our Anchor baby speaks again. Appears she's in need of redemption- thowing everything at the wall to see what sticks. I had spoken in respect of her attributes but it appears she is more interested in digging holes
With the way Starmer has been dressing her up and how her party is polling, its seems like it's only a matter of time before her peers demand her head.


The Conservatives say the period before someone can apply for ILR should be extended from five to 10 years and people should then have to wait a further five years before seeking citizenship.

The party wants the government to adopt the changes, backdated to 2021, by amending its Border Security, Asylum and Immigration Bill due to be debated in Parliament next week.

Saccharine:
Thanks for your response. Yes @ medical. Your move was so smooth! Love to see it!

We will go to scope in summer cos I'm done with this place especially with the potential to earn more.Most likely work permit because I'm too old for the express route.

Anyhow, from all information,earnings combined with spouse will give me the soft life I've been dreaming of
Once I wrap up, my family and I are out.
Happy relocation and please keep us updated!

Correct.. always worth visiting first and seeing things for yourself. Canada has abuja vibes...

@age- there are added points for having a job. Might be worth exploring. Eitherway, once there, it should only be a matter of time before you get PR.

The ceiling here overlaps the low-mid level there. Mid-top level there na chaos. The mortgage advisor has sent me two check-up emails. I tell am say baba calm down- make we come first.

If both you and wifey are family physicians, bargaining gets better and you can look at owning or becoming partners in a practice (and maybe start employing other medics).

Zahra29:
On the basis of their temporary residence, yes.

What would/do you call farm workers, as you appear very keen to classify them.

Would you call yourself an expatriate?

It was a simple question

You tried to differentiate immigrants from expatriates and based on your criteria I asked - would you call seasonal farm workers expatriates?

Zahra29:
Lol, immigrant not expatriate unless you're only in the UK temporarily for work/ other and don't plan to settle here permanently.

Would you call seasonal farm workers expatriates?

Cyberknight:
Labour has really frittered away much of its political capital and it's already looking like the next election is Reform's to lose. I think people will not care about their lack of substance and will vote them in as disruptors, on the basis that they're sick of the other parties.

True and mirrors what I said missjekyll a few post back.

In governance, Labour hasn't done badly but they're facing severe headwinds mainly from the rising right-wing narrative that has swept across.
So far, their approach (which I find reasonable), has been to finetune and eck out the best from the current system on ground. The dilema is that most electorates seem fed up and want something radical. Asides Great British Energy (which the right would taint with their anti-green narrative), most of other labours policies are hardly new/disruptive- wage increase, renters reform, planning reform e.t.c were all mooted or partly started by the conservatives. Funding the NHS is a perrineal talk. I can only hope people begin to feel the effect of their policies with time.

It's still early but at this point, it seems Labours best bet would be a disastrous Trump presidency. Similar to how many parties urging their country to leave the EU all went quiet after UKs disastrous outing. Also Kemi has had her work cut out - Keir has been good and not scoring own-goals like Boris. In addition, she's struggling to rally support against many hardliners of her party - partly for obvious reasons but also from a sense of betrayal.

Like him or hate him, it's easy to believe Farage when you hear him speak. If the democrats were unable to convince the electorates that the best growth America had seen in a long time was good and worth following through on, I wonder what Starmer could do. All this reminds me of the Nigerian election of 2015. What would GEJ have done to convince the majority then that though we needed 'change', Buhari wasn't going to bring the right kind?