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RodgersAkpafu:
On a serious note though, when I say the woman life will "spoil" , it's more of the reputational damage she will suffer upon being identified as the woman who did that despicable act
When that boy comes out of jail, he will be out fir retribution

You don't have to be the one to vocalise such threats. The person who you think would hit back hasn't said anything

And as for the fight to finish thingy, it is what it is...
Anyone who is a northern resident already know that this is happening. and tensions are high between black folks and indians here, especially at the work place
Even some agencies know that pairing up Nigerians and Indian folks can easily go left
That's the reality

Hmmm... What sector is this?

These same ppl you are defending vehemently were on the MAGA train months ago demonising blacks and latinos, thinking they were "assostant white ppl "
Cheering the "dogs and cats" situation for Haitians and the shameful pile of garbage. joke on Puerto Ricans
Now that they have turned on them with the "jeet" / "pajeet" slurs, ....

At least, we can agree those words are slurs and shouldn't be part of a civil conversation. Keeping conversations civil is something Itry to do. I am disappointed how much we are mentioning Indians here when we should be discussing our issues - or are they our biggest threat?
Its just like Brits who thought Europeans coming over was the issue. Now they've stopped coming, is UK any better? We should see the bigger picture here and not zone in on microcosms of hate

SIRTee15:
I never gave U consent to release my personal info here and U obviously broke the rule of nairaland 10.

If U think U will get away with this easily, U must be joking.

Hehe.. I take my words seriously.

First lets revisit things-
1. You posted your instagram link (which declares your details) with a view to spread hate. I pointed that out to you.
2. You saw my post but was cowardly silent as expected and I had to raise attention again to your folly before you came out huffing and puffing.

3. You are lucky the mods edited my post (as they can on NL), else it would have still been up. You should be prasing God, this wasnt a different platform

Mr. T, I would give you a little secret in bring taken seriously - you don't repeat threats, you do what you want.

4. I have never been so confident about the inabilty of someone to do anything as I am in you case. I used the ward inability cos even if I give you all the resources, you lack it within you to do anything sensible.

6. Finally, I don't have the headspace to keep engaging you on this so I would make it easy. I give you 3 months to do something sensible- if you are able to, you have £1000 on me.
Because I am quite certain that you would do nothing, I might look to remind you of your cowardice again before this time runs out.

Dont talk, act!

NuCypher:
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Of course, the video made it look like all the folks present there were all indians, so they behaved like they were in New Delhi. That's far from the truth. It's easy to see in that mix a number of whites, blacks, indians, etc. Everyone rushed for the bus. So, what exactly is the point here? It's not like the Indians rushed for the bus, while the whites waited? How do you guys even share videos like this to reaffirm the confirmation bias you need to start wrongly judging a whole set of people?


And then, this is not the first time something like this is happening. There's no New Delhi sh&t happening here. People, normal people, will shove and push for space on the bus when there's limited space or service. It's the law of the survival of the fittest, which is only human. Or how would you explain another video like this from the TTC widely available on Tiktok and comprised mostly of white Canadians? . Or many more such videos all across urban cities in Canada? You guys need to give up this subtle narrative of "third world colonization" that makes very little sense. At the end of the day, according to Statistics Canada, there's only 21% visible minority population in Canada (including aborigines and those born here). So, white canadians are still very much in majority, still control most of the country's politics and industry. So, what exactly is the fear? And why exactly the fear for a black person like you? Wake up!

Aptly said. Thanks for bringing some common sense into this.

The chap who shared the video is too cowardly to even say what everyone knows he wanted to say. At least, his overlords on Twitter are able to speak their mind. He who copies them shivers into cowardice.

We should be looking to improve ourselves not pointing fingers in the air. My first foray here was reminding one how unapologetic I was about migration and as a Brit moving to Canada was hardly a privilege- its more of an entitlement.
I wonder what all these people would say if most of recent migrants to Canada were of white skin- perhaps, they'd be chorusing 'master, master thanks for coming'. We can argue pros and cons of migration but resorting to hate and racist language is where I draw the line.

BTW, stumbled upon this which is rather interesting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEBiebbeNCA

Despite all the restrictions, it seems the Chinese have caught up with American AI models and arguably surpassed them by being able to better/same in many domains while using much less resources.

One thing I noticed are the number of Asian folks (esp Indians who still had native accents i.e 1st gen) speaking on the American side. Part of the interview was with Aravind Srinivas the CEO of Perplexity which apparently is a well rated AI resources. Downloaded the app to see how it compares to chatGPT.

SIRTee15:
And I'm not hating on Indians, I have shared disorderliness commited by non Indians including blacks.

I'm waiting for the m0ds to take action against U b4 I take my own action against U

Lol... Rabble rouser abi Indian fighter. You're not even bold enough to say what everyone knows you had in mind. Comparing confidentiality with publicly available data- one you even put up. Please share more from Instagram and while at that also include your phone number, address and banking details.

I see you've scurried off to ammend your post. That's a good learning point for you to which I expect some gratitude. Unfortunately, your video link (not personal data) has been quoted by a few people already. Imagine the number who could click on it it future. Some lessons are tough Mr. T.

BTW, if you're in Calgary, I'd like to share a drink when next I'm there.

SIRTee15:
This guy calls himself a doctor but has no respect for people's confidentiality and privacy.

He claims he works in UK or Canada as a doctor but has no problem leaking people's personal data to public. I won't be surprised if that's how he leaks his patient's personal data.

If U think I will let this rest, U must be joking.

I'm waiting to see the response from the mods

Lol.. Mr T,

In your hurry to blame Indians, you publicly shared a video that links directly to your known profile. I pointed that out to you and rather than being grateful and quietly deleting it, you're huffing and puffing. It's like posting my passport here and accusing someone of looking at it. Hehe

If you were not so preoccupied with hating Indians, you might have noted that earlier. The fact you still sound aloof is rather surprising.

BTW, the links you posted are still on here and anyone in the world can click on them and get back to your profile. Are you now going to do the sensible thing and shamefully remove your hate-filled videos?

RodgersAkpafu:
What I went through when I was neck deep in SIA business, its story for another day.
Anyways Nigerians are now coming into it more in the North here, and it has become FIGHT TO FINISH

RodgersAkpafu:
These guys have been mercenary and racist to us, ......

That Indian woman who got that black boy locked up in dubai
Her life go still spoil, let the boy come out of jail fess.

I am not diminishing reported racist experiences you had which have left you bitter.

However, you'd struggle to get wider/rational engagement on this issue if you are more focused on using slurs/spreading hate. Even leaders of civil right movement knew how to about rallying support. If we can't/wouldn't say it in person, then we shouldn't write it online

My question which you've failed to answer is this: what are you doing about it? And in same vein, what should we do about it?


P.s. Easy with the threats. It might seem an anonymous forum but as we've seen, every now and again, people expose their identity and stuff can be traced back to you.

justwise:
Yes even more excuses, so Trump and republican party are soft on Immigration, race, crime and economy?

This is becoming the case of...i'm not racist because my friend is black.

Now Trump is showing his soft side right?

Hehe. Cant deal.. Trump is a daily new headline.

BTW, can mods on NL edit individual posts?

Goodenoch:
Chief, does any of the platforms you use(d) for SIPP have individual stocks - other than Freetrade with the high fees?

I've tried to check but it seems these platforms are intentionally vague about this, for some reason, and I don't want to go opening accounts in every one to test.

I want to weight my portfolio toward more risk/reward but the platforms I use currently either don't have individual stocks (Moneybox) or don't have an SIPP at all (T212).

Jedisco, if you know any too, please.

Hehe. Maybe they keep it on the back burner cos its considered much higher risk esp for ones pension.

I've never bothered to check the individual stock option as I've never considered it. Vanguard doesn't have it I believe. I just checked investengine but its only ETFs
Dodl (owned by AJ Bell but cheaper) allows one buy individual shares in a SIPP though offerings are quite restricted. Their SIPP fee is 0.15% pa. Used them for a S&S Lisa

I use this to compare broker fees: https://monevator.com/compare-uk-cheapest-online-brokers/

But then, how do you decide on which individual stocks to buy?

Hosea148:
I’m Calgary based, and this was a one off incident. There was a massive train breakdown during rush hour, which led to an unusual accumulation of people at this station, and buses were deployed to ease up the situation.

Unfortunate that people did not queue up and follow order, but just want to add that this is not an everyday occurrence out here.

Good context - again shows the folly in seeing everything through racially tinted glasses.

I can't even imagine that amount of people waiting for a bus in London or any English city. Without good crown control, chaos may likely ensue. Though somewhat cultural, you can only look at English footbal fans and all their fighting to realise

What I find funny is while in a hurry to point fingers, the chap shared a link that exposed his own identity. Classic case of one finger pointing at others and the remaining four pointing at you.

ferfer:
I am glad you homed in on the excerpt above! You see that bolded, it is laden with meaning. The system does not understand us. They are giving western interpretations to African problems and that will always exacerbate the issue.

Even the doctors may not understand African ailments! That was an excerpt from a black history month poster in a top tier Canadian university. Look at the extent of that oversimplification, the nerve!

We need to get into the system and start being reckoned with - social work, doctor, pharmacy, police officer etc. We need more of our folks going into the mix, that is one of the most effective way to advance our community.

Until the lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always glorify the hunter.

True- we need to get into the right places and build wealth, open/run businesses, become landlords (controversial, but needed), restaurant chains, franchises, investment banking e.t.c. People might not like you, but they'd respect your cash. For example, despite having a good diasporean community, there are not many Nigerian restaurants abroad. Talk more of exquisite ones- i.e places where you could book a dinner and take workplace colleagues to experience top- notch Nigerian cuisine. Even in England, you'd hardly find a Nigerian restaurants where other top ones are located.

It takes time and we need the critical mass but we also need to be ploughing in the right direction.

missjekyll:
In 2015 ,the International Olympic Committee produced a guideline which required Testosterone to be below a certain level to compete in female sports.

That guideline has now changed . In 2021,it says hormone testing is medically unnecessary. Other tests can be used to determine if a particular transgender athlete has an unfair advantage over cis athletes.

At the Paris Olympics,they used a case by case criteria to allow competition. Not all Trans females won medals.

For years ,it's been taught that testosterone confers certain advantages in sports but that's not always the case.

I haven't read the cass review but must point out that the British Medical Association has taken a position against that report. It's as clear as mud at the minute.

In physiology, nothing is hardly always the case. Its called a natural distribution. I'm a man and there are loads of women who are physically stronger than me naturally. However, that does not negate the fact that on average males are physically faster and stronger and we know most of the drivers for that. This isn't just limited to humans.
Regarding hormones, we may not have all the answers but we largely know what they do and we know how people people turn out when they lack them.

Tha BMAs position has been raised concerns among many physicians with lots of fingers being pointed. Oddly, due to long waits, certain NHS groups had pushed in favour of these meds being started in primary care. Eitherway, the report has brought some much needed structure with many local boards being able to offer clear guidance to GPs on the matter which has helped in addressing the increasing number seeking to be started on these meds for gender issues in primary care.
The report is weighty and I have no doubt that down the line if an adult feels they've come to harm as a result of treatment they received in adolescence, they'd bring it up as evidence of negligence.
The report is not all gloomy- it mainly says we need more evidence about this treatment in young ones and already, reasearch in underway which may answer some of these questions.

To be clear, I am not against adults doing with their body whatever they see fit within the ambits of the law. I'm saying that if certain treatment is being offered to young, impressionable minds, we need to tread carefully. The loss of this nuance is where some felt the left had gone to far.

All said, I agree, it's a muddy area with loads of entrenched interests.

justwise:
You nailed it!!

I don't buy any those excuses, they voted for Trump simply because he was running against a woman of colour.

Hehe. I'm not a Trump fan but it'd do the demogratic party and wider left good to be a bit introspective and consider wider reasons before narrowing it all down to racism. Many have accused the democratic party of being to high-handed and failing to connect with the average person.
Yes a huge chunk voted on racial grounds but there are still many more that didn't.

Goke7:
They can deceive themselves with this high wages sha 😜 how much for starters do civil servants earn in this country, and how can low tax and social benefits coexist? just how for God’s sake and people go still fall mugu 😂

High wage, low tax economy. Hehe
They fall mugu by blaming migrants - we are the par*sites eating their cake. In the words of Nigel Farage- 'It's simple, just stop people coming to this country'.

My favourite speak now is pointing out that the productivity of the nation has stalled but expectation hasn't i.e the nation is too poor to afford certain luxuries the populace demands.
I remember telling one that if he thinks my owning a house is the reason why he doesn't have one, I have good news for him- the developers on my estate are still selling houses.

Kenn55:
Indians are more hostile to blacks in the west than whites. Sometimes whites may have small conscience but most Indians don't. Despite being immigrants themselves, the black immigrant community can't count on Indians as allies cos they see themselves as superior to us.

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They show no mercy to other immigrants so I don't give a damn about them too. We didn't come to a white man country only to come and suffer racism from them too in addition to white people. So I clearly understand why folks are calling them out

You raise good points. We don't need them as allies and certainly should not see ourselves as inferior to anyone. We need to rise up the ladder and build our network. Not excusing tribalism but we know than many humans have a tribal mindset.

Without discounting what you've said, the question becomes - how do we solve this issue?

ferfer:
Yes, there are people experiencing difficulties getting employment etc. What are we going to do about that? Complain about Trudeau? About other people? Or look at ways we can go about it and thereby enrich our community?

Well said!

Your post about black folks in the criminal justice system is rather chilling: 'From 8% in 2002, 19% in 2006 and reaching 29% in 2020. Indeed, one-half of Black inmates in the CJS are 30 years of age or younger....Factors such as discretionary policing tactics in Black and economically marginalized neighbourhoods, harsher arrest decisions, police reliance on child welfare agencies to resolve conflicts within Black families instead of support service provisions to sub-standard service delivery mechanisms, have been cited as major causes of these increases'

Work has to be done to reverse this trend.

Goke7:
After winning the election, oga Trump himself declared he won mainly because of the southern border and immigration, you see?

abeg what is the something different Reform say they are bringing? before they run us street

Hehe...for Reform, it's all freebies- high wages, low tax, no immigration and British born at the front of the benefit queue. Its early, but the polls show people may be buying their story

Kenn55:
That visual you attached is really interesting but I'm not surprised. I have always known that Trump's presidency will deal the west a major blow and benefit American adversaries. In Trump's world, allies will be enemy while enemies will be friends.
The next 4 years presents China an opportunity to deal a major irreversible blow to the west thanks to Trump

Hehe.. China is well prepared. His last stint took them by surprise but they bounced back. Now them don ready dey wait am.

Goke7:
There have been inconsistencies on the reasons given for folks swinging to the right, the same people will tell you tomorrow that it was because of the economy or inflation another day they will tell you it’s because of immigration and the southern border. All sorts of excuses all in the name of being politically correct so it’s neither here nor there from my observation. Even the DEI excuse thing has been used by many to portray that it was mainly used to promote the trans community while denying the many other benefits it brings for an integrated society.

True- it's multifactorial and also difficult to pin it all down to racism.

That Trump rode the wave of being better for the economy was surprising as we know their economy has been very strong with wage growth across board.
I hope its not like Nigeria of 2000-2010 where we were adamant about how bad things were until we subsequently experienced Buhari. Today we look back fondly at when many could afford 6yo tokunbo cars.

Another issue is expectation and entitlement which can't be kept up with. Its like how many people say they wouldn't have kids cos of how bad the world is without understanding we're living in the best time of human history. Also, an increasing number just want something different- a politician or party that deviates from the norm which is what I think is driving Reform. They are now seeking to appeal to those on the centre-right as they recognise they'd need numbers to make a difference.

Zahra29:
A lot of work is being done in specialist hospitals like Marsden and Imperial on using AI in analysing scans, cancer diagnosis and tumour grading. Mammography AI systems are already being trialled and deployed in breast cancer screenings.
Many other studies are underway, or already completed, using AI in complex areas such as lung cancer and some sarcomas, leading hopefully to more accurate, faster and earlier diagnoses and improved treatment options/outcomes.

Yes, alot is being trown at AI to see what sticks - once good-enough data is out, NICE would start recommending them as the baseline. Considering wait lists and cost of medical care the potential for profit is massive.

Recently, a new reasearch drew waves in the community for demonstrating certain AI models were not inferior when compared to radiologists in picking up possible cancers on specific scans and were able to pick up certain cancers very early. I haven't read the paper but the question on many clinicians minds would be what are hoardes of other insignificant issues it'd highlight that may lead to undue investigations and outcomes. If every positive result of the AI model still has to be reviewed by a clinician (like a well-sold model I recently used), then it may limit it's value. I can see a situation where after a radiologist has read thru a scan, they might feed it through a model as a 'second opinion' to see if there's anything they might have missed.

missjekyll:
What is the current thinking on sports? If your androgens are kept low ,does that still give an advantage if weight class and other variables are kept constant?

Also,what age would you consider very young? Did anyone have any medical or surgical treatment at that age?

We know androgens have a developmental and performance role and not all developmental characteristics can be reversed. At what point did they start being low? What is a top female boxers chance against AJ is he hormonally transitions today? I'd place all bets that he'd still beat the sh*t out of her. Like with many things, I think this has gone full circle.

Gender treatment especially for minors in the NHS is a sh*t show. Wait times span several years. Private clinics which may be quick to initiate treatment are quick to dump it back on the NHS- sometimes parents pulling out for cost reasons.
People did have and increasingly sought treatment below 18 - hence the recent Cass review which raised certain startling questions prompting many clinicians to have a rethink. We don't just know the longterm effect of puberty blockers. Its now widely thought that puberty hormones do not just affect the development of physical features but also certain mental faculties. What's the longterm effect on a persons cognition if those are used during a phase of rapid development?

To conclude: recently, we were told how Trump would cut Indians to size. It's still early days but boy, he's signed a number of executive directives. I'm yet to see any which would disproportionately affect indians.

Bringing an end to DEI (which aimed to adress racial disparities in attainment borne from centuries of unfair treatment) would see more Asians (of which indians make a good chunk) in top Americans colleges and subsequently help them into top jobs. Oddly, black Africans might be the most affected as most migrating few who were on average higher attaining than African Americans so were able to ride their wave (I believe) into good spots.

Ending citizenship by birth (though unlikely to hold) would mostly affect Latinos and South-American migrants.

Nothing has been said about H1B visa yet but already hundreds of billions of dollars is being poured into AI - leading the crew is Soft Bank CEO- Masayochi Son who is Korean-Japanese. Remember tech leaders tend to favour immigration and if the recent body movements by them is anything to go by, I wouldn't be surprised that while Trump uses border closure and some deportations as a news headline to keep MAGA happy, he secretly listens to tech heads and opens up the work visa pathway. We can guess who'd form most of the beneficiaries. The endgame from the previous two points i.e more Indians in uni and less bottlenecks in job places for them would only see more Indians getting H1B spots.

Furthermore, more Indians getting into highly paid tech jobs would create the PR that'd lead to an increased admittance of Indians in the west as many would look to replicate the success of big American tech by getting talent all over the world. We can see this in the UK who might soon announce an AI visa. Ultimately, these Indians in high places would create the network effect that'd see more come in or certain jobs being offshored to India- No fret! its how the world works.

To be clear, while I'm against ending DEI, I have no qualms with Indians getting spots they have worked hard for.It's still early days and some of these are postulations but I can only wonder what African folks who supported Trump in the hope that he'd fight Indians for them think now. Oddly, though a small cohort participated, it appears Indians like Trump

And before someone start mumbling racist jibes e.g 'type of indians e.t.c', they should look at history and find out the type of Brits UK sent to Australia and where both nations are today.

ednut1:
@jedisco The trump threats has shown that Canada needs to dump all these climate change and environmental ideologies. Build more pipelines to the east , west and the arctic (the liberals have been blocking this) .I saw a post on Twitter about a bill essentially regulating the promotion of fossil fuels . I thought it was a joke till i went to check the bill o.

Now that trump has removed EV mandate and said they will drill oil. Its time for Canada to abandon all these woke policies o.

Trudeau also said there will be subsidies for businesses affected by the tarrifs despite having a 60b CAD budget deficit. I weak

https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/44-1/bill/C-372/first-reading

Trump is calling green policies into question. But already, America under Biden were drilling loads, lots of licences were offered and America was the largest crude producer. I believe larger games and lots of signalling are at play cos if the Americans drill too much and supress prices, opec would respond by flooding the market to suppress prices even further. Regarding Canada, I believe Biden stopped Canada’s plea to build a pipeline through the U.S. but then, I cant see why Canada shouldn't exploit their resorces in a reasonable manner moreso considering all the people they take in.

Green policies mainly affect African nations who run to the west seeking loans to extract their own resources. International lenders have of late been hesitant mainly down to push by the EU. That leaves us in a sad situation as as every developed nation today became industralised on the back of cheap energy.

I believe EVs are here to stay and with time should be much cheaper and modern to run. For the reasonable future, they should run along ICE vehicles for the reasonable future. I drive one in the UK, but on visiting Canada, it became clear to me that EVs are not as well suited for NA - longer drives, more extreme weather

BTW, I belive this thread is for Nigerians in Canada to share experiences, help each other and build a community not a congregation for Nigerians (even those not in Canada) who hate Indians to mast**bate on.

What has changed? How come there is so much focus on spreading hate for another moreso than bettering ourselves? We've seen such narratives in Nigeria of people blaming other groups for their problems even to the extent of widespread religious riots- where did that lead us?

I'm not one to gate speech and all thoughts are welcome. But so little has been said of Trumps threats and the direction of the US toward Canada (which if true would have far-reaching consequences for us) - whereas many posts over most recent pages has been about hate towards Indians- even those in countries we have not visited. We are better than this!
We should remember that in pointing at others, four fingers point back at us.

SIRTee15:
Mr Man, ...

If you have that many people waiting for a bus in extreme temperatures with no crowd control measures, there'd be some degree of disorderlines. Also, most people there are wearing black hoodies, among some exposed faces, the skin coulor isn't what you're hoping for. I'm wondering how you decided on the race (making it easy for you) of people waiting from that video.

Again, if that video makes you sad, write to your MP, department of transport or provisional government. That's a way of effecting change in a progressive society.

Goke7:
It had nothing to do with left leaning ideologies bruv those are dumb excuses.

Election numbers esp the U.S paint a different story. It appears a good cohort who voted him or didn't turn up for the republicans were people who had mainly been centre-left.

There have been a growing group esp poor white males question DEI initiatives in certain areas as they actually felt disenfranchised. I am still pro DEI but it should be a moving target.

Another are trans concers. Must say I have nothing against them but the pace and dimensions it got to had e.g sports and quite young kids has got many people who wouldn't have been bothered now questioning what exactly is going on. Even in the UK, we've seen policy change and now call for a better understanding of what treatments are being offered. Of course there are those who inexcusably hate them.

Saccharine:
Please which a*i* scribe do you use for letters?

Heidi. It seems to have an early lead and was quite impressed when I first used it as were many others.
They also used the popular model of giving it out free (to get the buy-in), you then have to subscribe to use unlimited pro features (e.g making ref letters). I really like it's disctaphone option as It hardly makes mistakes, gets accents and frees up our secretary to do other stuff rather than spending time typing out letters and in some places then looking for one to proofread it. I suspect they'd make more features pay only once they're in the lead and also expect it might merge with one of the major EMRs in use so both can be in one software.

I've heard about a few others pushing through but not used them.

Phil46:
Great point! I also always think about the impact of AI on NHS both negatively and positively, especially given its status as the biggest employer in the UK and how the entire nation relies on it for their medical needs. I want to believe its adoption at any capacity would be thoroughly and thoughtfully assessed as any wrong step could have damning consequences. At the same time, not proactively embracing it could also impact/limit operational efficiency and medical breakthroughs. I work in charity, and I can tell you that the industry is risk-aversed when it comes to AI. But being an outsider to NHS, I know my estimation might be off track. But you, as an insider, what do you think are the top benefits and risks of AI to the NHS?

AI we know is still largely new and fastly growing- too early to determine the benefits but one thing is sure, it would greatly improve productivity.

For advantages:
So far, it has been good when employed in very specific areas where specific outcomes are sought. Its also good for summmarising pieces of data into something coherent and actionable. Another is that newer AI models are very good with accents and such brilliant in a multicultural society. Using chat GPT and your google voice assitant for example- the difference is clear. I also understand that some studies have shown certain models are pretty good in interpreting xrays- but this was on chest x-rays alone. If that could be replicated widely, it can free-up radiologist to interpret more somplex scans/CT's. Of late, models are increasingly being used as scribes/dictaphones by clinicians which saves time and mean you dont have to type and speak. Of course- this is not exhaustive.

For downsides/cautions
Issue is that humans rarely fit into boxes and there are always nuances which is where current models really struggle with. Of course, they may get better with time.
Another is where data privacy sits as most of these models 'learn' off anything fed into them
Also, most software companies deploying AI in healthcare are very risk averse and include loads of caveats and avoid making any decision so a clinician is still involved. For example, with covid, practices were mandated to have an online means of consult/contact- hence a flurry of options were pushed which most people have used. These models have subsequenly gone on to include 'AI' even if not for anything as a buzzword not to be left behind. I have noticed that some people can really play these models to get their desired outcome. With some, when people delete responses when they dont like the outcome, the model still includes these deleted responses. Say a person mentions chest pain with a few concerning features that makes the model stop and advise them to attend A&E or call 999, if they dont like that outcome, they would go back and tweak the response to a lower risk treshold so they could be seen in Surgery instead. The model however retains those deleted responses. Dem no wan any wahala- if issues arise, the blame must fall on someone.

Largely, such models are not entirely new - most people don't know that when you call 111/999, the first person you speak to is usually a non-clinician who asks a series of questions and based on the main symptom drives their way down an algorithm to give an outcome. This has been developed and refined over years and is quite safe. But then, quite often, call handlers run into a fix and have to speak to someone as people haerly fit in boxes.

In summary, just like most disruptive technologies, there is no point fighting AI- it should be learned, understood and allowed to fluorish in a safe manner. I continue to expose myself to it and hope to invest- but would not be specifically buying NVIDIA where it is now. Imagine a country shying off the motor car, industrial agriculture, the internet, e.t.c because they dont want to lose workers. Should farmers stop using tractors so they could employ more hands? In same vein, I would not be surprised if in the next 50 years we look back and wonder what all the frenzy about AI taking peoples jobs was about

Chukwuka16:
The UK: a rudderless island finally tipping into oblivion

...... If there is anything I have noticed from my years of observation of civil servants, it is that lawyers and doctors within their ranks are the worst administrators – they lack the mental capacity to manage complex systems. You only get a difference if they have run private practices.
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Education and exposure teach us that generalisations are almost always wrong, hence it's folly to paint a broad group with a brush. Also being a good leader/administrator is not the exclusive preserve of any occupation.

Kenn55:
People like you and your leftist ecosystem are the ones responsible for Trump's comeback. You guys brought Trump back to power and are responsible for the rise in far right lunatics across the western world.
I don't know what you people want to gain by turning society upside down. Name other genders make we see.
You guys have forced normal people to close their eyes and nose to vote for him cos they couldn't stand these nonsense you people are promoting.
It looks like the Left hasn't learnt their lessons in Trump's win. Too bad

hmm.. Interesting take. Your post occurred to me again. It appeared a number of moderate folks voted Trump as they felt left-leaning ideologies had gone too far.

SIRTee15:
Ladies and gentlemen, this not oshodi or Delhi..
This is Calgary, Alberta.

This is what Trudeau turned Canada

If we talk now, some people will call us Uncle Tom.

Calgary has a population under 1.5million which granted is still growing but its still small when compared to major cities around the world. Many cities transport significantly more people with less hassle. London has 8.6m residents, narrow roads but has a public transport system that caters to more people per hour than Calgary probably does in weeks and yet, I've never seen that much people waiting for a single bus in london. Some Asian cities even transport more than the total population of calgary in a day without such queues.

If you have that much need, then there has been underinvestment and the government needs to see this as an opportunity and seek ways to increase capacity (even if just at peak periods). That alone would increase efficiency, create jobs and boost GDP.

Also, this might be another downside of how north-American cities are structured. I've been to Calgary (and just like many NA cities), found it too car centric with much less walk routes, cyling or public transportation infrastructure/interconnectivity. You virtually have to drive everywhere as just a spot across the road could take one over 25mins to walk to. Compared to the UK/Europe, I prefer walking to the highstreet as would most people.

If you stay in Calgary, you need to put pressure on your government to build its public transportation service. BTW, blaming migrants for traffic is not new- I've seen UK politicians do same.