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tensazangetsu20:Hehe... wawulence everywhere. i.e 'if I suffered, you must suffer thesame too'. I wonder how true this is. |
Goke7:Hehe. It's called see-finish. He thought he was about to serve Kier Starmer breakfast but now he's been advised to ho wash plates at the big mans house. I wonder what he'd do if Elon offers £100m at this stage - he'd say master, I know you were pulling my legs. ![]() It's insulting finally. Reform is Nigel's personal business which is registered as a company with him being the main shareholder. Its like saying Elon or Trump are not good enough to oversee the vision of Space-X or Truth Social respectively. With all this, the humility in Nigels response is telling. Imagine his response if it was Kemi that said same thing.
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Of course, businesses would want lower taxes so they can have higher profits much of which goes to highly placed staff and shareholders. The government also needs the tax revenue to meet the many needs of the populace- education, health and infrastructure. The numbers and timeframe proposed by the government is decent. Businesses need to put in their fare share to support the economy they operate in. That way, everyone wins |
Nice one Mr Governor. People should be held responsible for their actions. Nigerians cannot keep dying with no repercussions. Anambra and FCT should follow suit. |
justwise:Dont know much about him. Looked him up and his narrative is typical - they know their demography. I see his shenanigans helped drive the Brexit narrative. I'm sure he's not as happy with the much liked post-Brexit result sheet.
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Goke7:Hehe.. I never watch that one oo.. I'd leave it under tge free speech narrative. Tommy Robinson doesn't have the right background. He might get overt support from rioters and inward support from others but the average British middle-upper class (e.g Rees Mogg) is not lining up behind him. Nigel Farage appeals more to that group- he has the oratory, education and carriage. Even most of Robinsons protests tend to be in deprived regions. |
maternal:I absolutely agree with you. These things come in ebbs and flows- and its important to take opportunities when they arise. Even if you look at British migration which I like discussing, over many centuries when there was net emigration of the British, the rate at which they left was variable. It had peaks and troughs. Now it has flipped to net immigration, just like with any 'market', I'd only expect a similar pattern for the coming decades. The main differences now, arw that the interval between the peak and troughs may be closer - mainly due to the fact that the natural population in most western nations is in decline (hardly talked about) - more younger folks are needed for stability and second reason is the way capitalism works and refusal of such countries to adequately tax wealth but rather blame migration- the rich get richer. Lastly, unlike before that much needed immigration is only going to come from people of colour With most western nations tilting right, I think they might be in the pre-Brexit phase of realisation. A less spoken about issue is the fact that the rising anti-migration sentiment would make it more difficult even for those from the anglosphere to move around like in times past.
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njambert:I agree issues are multifactorial but migration is not the major driver. Taking away the recent 22/23 spike (which by historical standards is not unheard off), the population growth rate of Canada has been on a downward trend. The country grew at a much faster pace in the past and continued to thrive. Some of that spurt gave rise to some Canadian cities we know today. Without migration, the population of most western nations would be in decline which is something they are keen to avoid especially seeing how Japan has handled it. The way the world works, on a level playing field, one/few countries would always dominate migration numbers be it Brits, Chinese e.t.c. First, Canada is not getting 300k Brits to apply for its EE in 2024. Same also, you wouldn't get tens of thousands of Brits applying to Canadian universities. The numbers willing to apply and with the right qualification would not come from the anglosphere - same is the story elsewhere and it's fairly new. Is Canada going to take someone from country X with an EE score of 250 over an Indian with an EE score of 500? Yes, things could be spread out a bit more but not at the expense of a fair system. Also worth nothing that over 1 in 7 humans is an Indian. Add that to their decent command of English and you'd see their numbers are not surprising. On diversity, almost 50% of Canadians are of British heritage. No one is complaining about that lack of diversity. Also looking at numbers, any country cap is going to disproportionately affect Nigerians
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Gerrard59:Hehe. I don't agree the uninhabitable excuse is a fair let-off for Australia. Yes, large swathes of Canada are not suitable for habitation, same also Australia. Taking away these uninhabitable parts, Australia is still sparsely populated. The Brits were not worried about the amount of habitable land when they came over and the Australians media didn't have so many issues when it was Brits coming in. Most Brits I see have relatives resident in Australia or Canada- its normal for them and the Canadian or Australian media hardly complained about this.
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lavida001:Hmm.. Indians have done well for themselves in the West. I only hope they can also achieve good development back home. If Nigerians had similar attainment to them in the West, we'd be receiving more hate. It's important not to follow media narratives to belittle hard working, high-attaininig folks just because of ethnic prejudices. Else, we'd next be calling ourselves third worlders. |
justwise:Lol@ Tommy Robinson - the 'defender of English values' and the only one speaking the 'truth' Nigel Farage is not obedient enough to lead the cause. True, the UK system may have not be as financially laden but it's heavily susceptible to the media. I've noticed that many elements of the Right in the UK are also not huge fans of Trump. With most of the developed western moving right, the next few years should be interesting. Hopefully its their Brexit moment with similar lessons to be learned |
A common narrative is how migration is the reason for the housing crises. Nobody choruses that U.S is overpopulated yet they have about 330 million people. Australia with a landmass just slightly to the U.S only has 26 million inhabitants. Yet, it's immigrants that are to blame for house prices Over 60% of Australians own their home. How many of them would not vote out a government that causes house prices to crash. Locals would block every house building initiative and turn around to blame migrants. Estate developers buy up and hoard land around cities and refuse to build. They'd call in land banking. They only build at the rate at which they can sell at their set prices. Same story in Canada and the UK. The mortgage industry forms a bedrock of the economy of these nations. Imagine the economic output if quality houses could be built at scale. Jobs would be created, house prices and rents would become more affordable, gdp would rise and people would invest in other parts of the economy rather than buying up land. But no, everybody wants to secure their retirement and inheritance on the value of their home
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justwise:My concern with folks like him is how they can drive the media and consequently drive how people think. That most local UK media are commenting about him shows his reach. All he needs is a local popular politician to be his face/puppet Elon was not a conservative before. He really kicked off when he felt spited. When Jo Biden invited business leaders to the white house and didn't include him. Since inception, traditional social media tilted towards the left and were more progressive. He's cut down all safeguards to having a civil conversation and Twitter is now a freeway for every kind of abuse + p0rn I gather. In todays world with a recent flourish of right wing ideas, it's difficult to say how far he can reach |
ednut1:True, when push comes to shove, they also target those eastern Europeans. They hide behind wide reaching words like 'integration' to spew trash. How many of them 'integrate' when they go to Dubai or 'China' but they expect me to forget my culture and kowtow because I have come to the west. Yes, integration is important but should be done via mutual respect and not by folks giving up their identity to ppease you. And most of these communities come to be by reason of persecution. Its the only way by which they survived. If the Jews didn't form such communities, one can only guess what'd have happened to them over centuries. Even at that, the success they had attracted lots of hate to them which led to lots being killed in the world wars. Even in Nigeria- whether its in Lagos, Kano, Kaduna, Anambra e.t.c migrating communities manytimes tend to live in particular parts. In the U.S, there are places with very little blacks. In Australia how many westerners live in or close to aboriginal communities e.t.c. Folks choosing to live with people of their kind are not doing anything new. |
Gerrard59:There's definitely a numbers game at play. Having closed off communities might not be the best but its the way many groups thrive. Most of us only disperse due to work. Worse would be said if it was Nigerians or Kenyans having such. We heard similar stories prior to Brexit of how eastern european folks were taking up districts, only speaking their language and sending money back home. Some of that narrative has died down now as there is no single group to hold |
ednut1:Manytimes, its white folks also selling and moving out. Forming communities is a time-tested way by which humans have thrived. It's one of the basics in building wealth as a group. There are pros and cons but it happens in every society. Jews, blacks e.t.c The funny thing is that even when westerners migrate to developing countries today, they lump themselves up in closed-off 'expat' communities. How many of them move and mix freely with the local populace as they expect of us? Same scenario with colonial periods- where possible, the natives would be killed off or foced into coccons e.g Australia. If not possible then invading folks take and live in the choice land by themselves e.g SA. Humans are communal beings and the protection that comes by moving in groups is immense whether its to career progress, business success e.t.c. It's why I laugh whenever migrating Nigerians say they'd have nothing to with Nigerians abroad. I'm all for integration and live and work in a community which is >95% white but at same time, I cannot discount the benefits of having more people like me around. If not for work, I may have moved to a place with more diversity. |
Agidipie:The narrative has a number of drivers but once you scratch the surface it becomes clear most of it stems a larger underlying prejudice against migration by people of colour and another large cohort of BAME folks who jump on the wagon without understanding the underlying drivers. Indians are only being targeted because they sre the dominant migrant group in those countries. In Canada, similar was said about the Chinese 1-2 decades ago. If it was Nigerians or blacks, even worse would be said. There are bad eggs as you'd find in any group who have migrated in numbers but an overwhelming majority came legally and go on to do well for themselves. That many go on to be high achievers only fuels that hate A few pages back, I had to engage someone who had been made to believe non-white migrants were the reason why some Brits emigrate. Or is it when folks blame migrants for NHS wait lists forgetting you're much more likely to be treated by a migrant healthcare worker than have them ahead of you on a wait list. Or is it how housing crises is blamed on migrants forgetting that no government or western populace has any intention of cutting house price |
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Kenn55:Free Indians matter. We're in thesame hustle. Alot of countries have bigots pointing fingers at them. Trump sold his story to a wider narrative this time and even got some minority voters behind him or made them less enthusiastic to vote for the dems. It's so believable to point at an immigrant and make everyday folks believe they're the reason for wider struggles. Its a time-tested tactic. Well lets hope Trump doesn't do a BJo on them. His properties need more of the 0.1% engineers to run them afterall |
Zahra29:The op asked if getting regular prescriptions (in this case for diabetic meds) would class as public funds for someone on a visa which I responded to. Thats different from asking if one is eligible to have free prescriptions under the nhs (for which they'd need to meet specific criteria except they're in certain parts). The only overlap here is that the are diabetic on meds which has a crossover between the two. i.e its a disease which if treated with medications would by itself qualify them for free scripts. The full gamut of nhs services is being able to access routine care and get your regular prescriptions signed off just like everyone else. There would still be set criteria for certain aspects of care/treatment. If I needed a regular script, I'd pay the regular nhs fee for it - not private. |
NuCypher:Hehe.. mk una free 'Nigerians' na Remember exams always seem easy after you've passed them. I'm an advicate for taking things calmly but lets understand the mental stress many in that situation go through. Life plans and savings could be on hold. Prayers and fasting may have followed and for many it would be a huge decision in their lives. When I applied for a Canadian visit visa, even after being warned, I was taken aback by how long it took. Recently someone in the UK thread just couldn't understand why it takes Canada upto a year to process visit visa for Nigerians. Na me begin explain give am. Even at that- it's just too long. By the time it came to EE, I was less perturbed as I don sabi their way and wasn't in a hurry |
funkyy598:Hehe.. I see your point but tailoring advise to the needed group is also important. Truth be said, some of the overzealous advise given on the EE page are not needed. I remember someone warning about 'bills' forgetting anyone on that pathway should have done their reasearch and hence advise given needs to be balanced. It's like many discussions I've had on NL when folks warm Nigerians about how 'bills' will kill you in the West. My favourite was someone telling me food was 'cheaper' in Nigeria cos he was comparing the sticker price of coca-cola On a personal note, before I moved abroad, even after getting a job I was so worried about 'tax' stories I hear online that I had to phone a friend and ask if I go still see money after paying 'tax/bills'. Chap laughed and told me that talk is crap and truly it was. All I'm saying is advise needs to be balanced and tailored. |
ednut1:The way the guy flared up, I had to revisit the pictures you posted. Those are everyday pictures of Canada and this is a thread for Nigerians in Canada. Its just like someone posting pictures of malls in Lagos shops on a Lagosian forum. Began to wonder whats driving his temperature |
Goodenoch:I wonder what he and the likes of Vivek would be telling their kids after their fellow republican 'freedom fighters' and 'truth speakers' have now turned calling him all kinda names because of his skin colour. Even Musk had to call out the racist language. |
Goke7:Hehe... Kier is having it tough. UK kowtowing to the U.S no be today but got worse since Brexit as standing alone leaves the UK at the back of the queue hence we have become more desperate for any trade agreement. Obama warned about this. Must issue came to the fore when the UK went cap in hand begging him to open a factory here. Chap ultimately looked the other way siting Brexit even after a sitting PM 'interviewed' him. Imagine the PM interviewing a private business man. Funny enough, it was the much hated Indians that came to UKs aid and agreed to build a battery factory after securing generous terms. Many whites (in other countries) who are native english speakers see the UK as their family house for historical reasons esp white South Africans His father has called Kier a fascist. X has left Tommy Robinsons hate filled documentary on. He is now calling for Tommys release. The UK can't do much about him cos upsetting the coming US president is considered too risky a venture. All Musk needs to do is dangle the possibility of a factory and the those in Westminster would start singing a different tune.
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Goke7:Stumbled upon this and I remembered you and Kemi. Chap is lamenting but wonder what he was expecting. Broensing thru, it's clear X has really become its kind of SM with rising hate all in the name of free speech
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naivasha:I gather its part of the family visa group which is a pathway to ILR. Moreso, you should have paid IHS fee during application hence are eligible for the full gamut of routine NHS services. It does not class as 'public funds' for immigration purposes. Worth registering with your local GP and requesting this meds plus a diabetic review which should subsequently occur annually Even for those visiting on a visit visa who run out off or forget their medications, they may get a prescription by calling 111 or visiting the local urgent treatment centre or visiting the emergency dept (esp if its an essential medication which certain diabetic medications would be). In some cases, they may be asked to pay a private prescription fee. This helps explain what is public funds for immigration purposes and not https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-funds--2/public-funds |
Why dont Telcos have contract plans where people pay a fixed monthly fee for a given period (e.g 1yr) and as a result have unlimited calls/texts and fixed data? |
naivasha:It depends on the kind of visa- visit and work/dependent have different rules |
Lexusgs430:If one is no longer tax-resident in the UK, I doubt they'd still be able to contribute to an ISA. |
Gallantboy213:Free housing in what context? Is the invitation for a visit visa? |
lavida001:Why do you refer to yourself as 'third worlder'? |
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