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Politics › Re: Coronavirus: Why Buhari Is ‘side-lining’ Osinbajo – Dele Momodu by jelel6: 4:04pm On Mar 22, 2020
TheGoodJoe:
Mike Pence heads the Presidential task force against Covid-19 in America. He is the vice president. He has little to no training in infectious disease management but was appointed because of his ability to use the best resources to get good results.

Osinbanjo has showed his capability of handling crisis as he did during Buhari's medical sojourn. Most important was his handling of the rising dollar rate. He showed flexibility in his handling of micro investment schemes and even the Niger Delta crisis during the avengers bombing of oil installations.

It is a crime to sideline him in this Covid-19 battle we are facing. Ethnic and tribal bias is not the way to go.
That was a very concise take I'd admit but I think you're missing the point of my position.

However, I'll try to elaborate as follows:

1. When you try to give or read meanings to every situation, and cast unnecessary aspersions, you tend to divert attention from the MAJOR issue at hand. This is what Dele Momodo have just done. Read unwarranted political and tribal sentiments unnecessarily.

If you say Buhari is sidelining Osinbanjo because of politics, I could very easily say Trump is throwing Pence into the front line because of same politics. Why? People have a high profile figure to ask questions if things go wrong. People will say: what more could he have done? He gave his vice the job to do. He can't possibly handle 'Everything Himself'. Eventually it'll hurt his government, but people would actually come for Pence's head.

Besides, you can't say Mike Pence is doing a remarkable job at the moment considering their numbers is going higher still.

2. Osinbanjo's brief time as Acting president was promising or more of the same depending on who you ask. But the way people like Dele Momodo is saying it makes it look like the man preformed magic at every turn. No matter the impact or quick decisions he'd take during that period, so you think any of them is unprecedented? On his supposed impact on the economy? That's just laughable. It will take more than a miracle to actually have any impact there that is REAL AND QUANTIFIABLE. Signing MoUs and churning out policies was never our problem. It will take more than just being Elbert Einstein to implement those policies and see it to completion.

There are several other government establishments headed by other individuals who must have claimed of one notable achievement or the other.

3. So, because Buhari decided to appoint someone else to head the government's taskforce on the COVID-19 epidemic, that somehow amounts to sidelining? You even go a mile further to suggest ethnic and tribal sentiments! While not add religious too? Oh, the SGF is a Christian so that won't hold.


In many ways, I respect Osinbanjo. But he's no Messiah and certainly not Unique. He may have been a wise choice too. But the SGF can't be categorically termed a bad choice either. 2023 or whatever bias is certainly a non-issue about who heads a taskforce on a virus that we may never hear of again after this outbreak in the next 100 years.
Politics › Re: Coronavirus: Why Buhari Is ‘side-lining’ Osinbajo – Dele Momodu by jelel6: 1:18pm On Mar 22, 2020
I've expressed my disappointment on the seemingly slow response of the government to foresee the impending dangers COVID-19 could pose to us.

But, when you read nonsense like this Dele has just wrote hear, you start to wonder if people who work in the media are all generally this petty?

When did Oshibanjo become the expert at managing infectious diseases? As the vice president, does Oshibanjo require any prompt before he puts those 'Sterling brilliance' to good use?

'It's about 2023, it's about upstaging his boss'. I can't believe it. How many presidents has asked their deputies to head their response to COVID-19 taskforce around the globe? Grown man talking like a complete idiot.

Serving as a president for 2 hours is not the same as serving for 4 years. Familiarity bias works in reverse too. It's just a case of in the 'moment' progress. We'd only know if after 12 months we don't just read of or feel progress, but actually SEE IT FOR REAL.

Our problems or failures are collective, the president is just the figurehead we chose to recognize as the problem. Oshibanjo or whoever will suffer the same fate.
Health › Re: Nigeria Confirms 10 New Cases Of Coronavirus by jelel6: 7:50pm On Mar 21, 2020
Basher8583:
You know what.... You can go ahead with your dirty life as you deem fit. Shebi na you dey leave next to dump site abi.

Infact you can panic your life away. Abi now..shebi its your life.

No one give a rats ass since you have been advised the best way to keep yourself personally clean
Exactly as expected. Typical.
Health › Re: Nigeria Confirms 10 New Cases Of Coronavirus by jelel6: 6:50pm On Mar 21, 2020
Basher8583:
Still mentioning cases. If you like the numbers can inflate to 200,000 but the question is about casualties as a result of covid19 here in Naija. How many do you know? I know of none.
My question now is for how long do we have wait to confirm my assertions. It is clear we can survive this pandemic without any casualties

My argument is pretty clear. No need for panic but remain perpetually clean/ hygenic. There's no end to that. Some Naija pips are waiting for the pandemic to end so they can go back to their dirty habits
If hygiene is so so important to it's spread, I'm sure Africa would have been wiped out by now.

If your house and yourself are clean? How About your environment? Your backyard, your neighbor's refuse? Your company's transport?

These countries mostly affected are usually squeaky clean. You should understand that preventing something like this goes beyond keeping one's cupboards and sink clean.

Misinformation and just as bad or badder than ignorance
Health › Re: Nigeria Confirms 10 New Cases Of Coronavirus by jelel6: 6:47pm On Mar 21, 2020
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Health › Re: Nigeria Confirms 10 New Cases Of Coronavirus by jelel6: 5:48pm On Mar 21, 2020
Basher8583:
Na case we just dey confirm up and down. No casualty as a result of Covid19.

Its a known fact that flu which we blacks naturally dust off our bodies kill Caucasians anyhow. Lost a Swedish friend to just common cold oh.

We have nothing to panic about. Just continue practicing good hygiene. It has to be continuous though even after the end of the pandemic.
See, when you make what seem to be like authoritative statements as you have just done as regards something as serious as this, you should be DAMN sure you have all the facts RIGHT.

Because you know a Swedish who died of flu doesn't mean flu doesn't kill blacks. How does one affect the other?

Flu is "common" in that it affects more than a million Nigerians yearly. The fatality rate is low. But that doesn't mean there'll not be an isolated case like your friend who did died.

We had no cases but look now. It's 10 new and 22 overall. We shouldn't panic but don't appear to dismiss it ignorantly like it's trivial.
Health › Re: Nigeria Confirms 10 New Cases Of Coronavirus by jelel6: 5:32pm On Mar 21, 2020
Whoa!!!

I'm now truly worried. I've been following the Virus outbreak since the very early cases China. The very first dose of its potential seriousness was when it eventually found its way to Europe. Italy and most European countries couldn't contain it. The UK's own inability to effectively manage the spread of the virus tells every informed persons that the this
Is a REAL PROBLEM.

A country like the UK had all the heads up it could ever have needed but watched almost helplessly as 1 case became 2, 4, 8, 16, and so on.

Nigeria, like most 3rd World countries can't possibly have the resources and organization to manage such a situation which countries like the UK are struggling with. Hence, our measures should have Been more drastic and pragmatic.

When European countries where playing football matches in empty stadiums, we should have started quarantining all incomings from overseas into our shores for the prescribed 14 days. Incomings from Italy should have been totally suspended.

When they started considering suspending sporting activities, we should have closed all our land borders and Sea borders. Incomings from the airport can still be monitored easily so can be left operational, But the 14 day quarantine must be enforced.

NOW, all that is useless. 10 confirmed cases is TOO MUCH for us and way above our league to handle. Because we all know the actual cases in Nigeria IS ACTUALLY going to be more around the region of 50 already.

If we can't conduct a credible census for humans is it a census for a virus we'd get right?

I suggest the government approach the news of these 10 cases like it just received that of 1000 and take their most drastic measures. It's better for the government to exaggerate their response and then underestimate the situation.
TV/Movies › Re: What Series Are You Watching Now? Part 2 by jelel6: 9:24pm On Mar 16, 2020
DandeNumeruno:
WESTWORLD is back baby.
It think is time for me to see this series.

Darksider131:
The haunting of hill House: 8/10

Movie is dope, is slow but dope

The finishing episode is really good

My best episodes:
THE BENT NECK LADY
THE TWO STORMS
SILENCE LAY STEADILY
This gat me reminiscing. One of the very best show the last two years easily for me. Very classy horror story with classy actors.
I think is going to be an anthology series with a season TWO.

Got wind the Ozark is backhuh Why do I always feel that series is a tad underrated?
[Money laundering 101]
TV/Movies › Re: What Series Are You Watching Now? Part 2 by jelel6: 11:31am On Mar 16, 2020
FINALLY, I (completely) WATCHED BREAKING BAD!!!

I've seen hazardously, seasons one and two long long ago when they were showing it on MBC then. Like it but didn't continue as no be me get MBC... wink

Obviously, the way I choose shows this days is different, but it's impossible not to see Breaking Bad pop up on my radars.

So, fortunately (or unfortunately), when I saw the "Greatest" tag and the 9.5 ratings on IMDb, it was impossible not to get SUPER HYPED AS ****

I began at Season 1 of course, through to Season 5. I appreciated the episodes I'd seen before better because I'm probably more matured now.

My Verdict:

A good Show. A great show. A top Show.
In many ways, Breaking Bad was excellent. Tight.

But..., My expectations was that it's supposed to be the "Greatest" and a "9.5" for me. To Me! ...ONLY IT DIDN'T


If I were to judge it only from the rough memory I had of some episodes of those two seasons I'd seen years ago, I'd be MAD to be SO HYPED.

But the only thing I could point my finger at was that Breaking Bad for me, unlike it was for most others, didn't explode for me. Didn't have that KA-BOOM Moment. Didn't blew my mind, interest, or brains, at any point whatsoever.

Hence, there was no Season 4, or Season 5, and definitely, there was no Final Episode BIG BANG improvements and moment respectively for me.

... Maybe it's because I'm seeing it in an era of so many ( very ) great shows or I'm just too hard to please, Breaking Bad didn't COOK it for me 99% as Heisenberg Did it.


Cheers All
TV/Movies › Re: What Series Are You Watching Now? Part 2 by jelel6: 10:27am On Mar 16, 2020
Peakyblinder:
Nah not it. She uses sword to fight. It has this legend of the seeker and game of thrones setting. Is outlander worth watching?
The Outpost? The Shannara Chronicles grin grin Xena ??

Disclaimer: I've never watched any of the above mentioned shows. I only knew about them from synopsis and reviews on site like IMDb. Hence, like most people who watches only shows that passes some base, stringent rules: I passed. cool

Regarding Outlander, when a show is 8.4 on IMDb, or 92% on Rotten Tomatoes, you JUST KNOW it's watch watching. At least the first season of it to determine if YOU actually like it.
Family › Re: My Husband Doesn’t Want My Son To Come And Stay With Us by jelel6: 11:59am On Mar 14, 2020
martowskin1:
All this grammar u dropped, here, u didn't ask of the father.

U are hipping all the blame on the man instead of the biological father him self.

What happened to private Borden school. Yes I mean that, when things get though, we make logical decision and not emotional one.

The man is not here to tell his own truth, if he should tell us his own truth of this issue, u will realise is 80% different from what she just told us.. .
Where the biological father is is not the issue presently. She accepted that situation and lived happily with her children before they met.

Then a man comes along and all of a sudden, a 12 year old boy can't even live with his Mom again simply because OF A Marriage!

Which society except ours would tolerate such Nonsense?

You're talking about boarding school. So, during the holidays, he's supposed to follow the principal to his house?

Who told the man to marry a single mom of he knows he's going to be unable to live with the children? He's not doing anybody any favours.

What story can the man tell? That he's actually asking the woman to bring home the boy she's the one refusinghuh
Assume for a second, the situation was reversed. Say, I'm your friend with a 10 year old child but the mother is no longer in the picture. I'm young and wanted to marry a new wife. But I tell you that the lady says she cannot have my young child around the house when we marry.

Are you REALLY going to tell me to marry and FEEL HAPPY to move my Little girl to live with Uncle's and Aunties? Really? You can advise a friend looking at them in the eye? You mean you will do that yourself?
Family › Re: No Man Should Be Encouraged To Marry A Single Mother: A Response To Vyvyanvyvy by jelel6: 10:31pm On Mar 13, 2020
jelel6:
After reading everything this man had to say here, I must say that people are really NOT NICE in this part of the World.

For a man who claims to be a grandfather, I'm truly disappointed to read such statements filled with senselessness and reflection. MY GOD! OH.

So, A MAN to you is 'some' man who sees a 12 year old boy facing life's struggles with the help of his Mom, the only responsible parent left, then decides to marry the mom into his home while leaving the boy to wander the earth alone?

So, A MAN to you is someone who THINKS the place of a 12 year old boy is not besides his mom and his step dad but WITH an Uncle with his wife?

Will this your version of A MAN take this very own uncle's child himself?

And a grandfather as you call yourself have the temerity and self-righteousness to called a struggling 12 year old boy a thief?

What did he steal? It could be a cup of garri when no food morning till afternoon! Perhaps, he saw Uncle giving his own children lunch money to buy biscuits, and couldn't handle the urge looking at uncle's junior munching biscuits buy the corner alone everyday.

So, you're telling us from your experience as a father that when a child makes a mistake, you send them away from the house to live with uncle's and aunties.

How many of YOUR OWN CHILDREN ARE STILL LEFT WITH YOU AT HOME? Because don't tell me they don't make mistakes even while leaving with their parents.

You even have the GUTS to talk about a "perfect child". Which perfect child?

Be honest and take a moment to reflect on the atrocities you have committed when you were only 12 years old.

Reflect. Reflect. Reflect. Did someone ship you off to Uncle's and Aunties?

It Sucks to be you Sir. I'm only glad I don't have to ever listen to you TALK.
Family › Re: No Man Should Be Encouraged To Marry A Single Mother: A Response To Vyvyanvyvy by jelel6:
KingSatan:
Dear Nairalanders,

Which man will watch a thief come into his house in broad daylight and do nothing about it?

Or you think the man has no clue about your her son's sudden change?

What if the husband is the one trying to bring in his love child who steals? Will the woman allow that without a second thought?

If you are a parent, you will attest to the fact that one negative influence can destroy your perfect child.
After reading everything this man had to say here, I must say that people are really NOT NICE in this part of the World.

For a man who claims to be a grandfather, I'm truly disappointed to read such statements filled with senselessness and reflection. MY GOD! OH.

So, A MAN to you is 'some' man who sees a 12 year old boy facing life's struggles with the help of his Mom, the only responsible parent left, then decides to marry the mom into his home while leaving the boy to wander the earth alone?

So, A MAN to you is someone who THINKS the place of a 12 year old boy is not besides his mom and his step dad but WITH an Uncle with his wife?

Will this your version of A MAN take this very own uncle's child himself?

And a grandfather as you call yourself have the temerity and self-righteousness to called a struggling 12 year old boy a thief?

What did he steal? It could be a cup of garri when no food morning till afternoon! Perhaps, he saw Uncle giving his own children lunch money to buy biscuits, and couldn't handle the urge looking at uncle's junior munching biscuits buy the corner alone everyday.

So, you're telling us from your experience as a father that when a child makes a mistake, you send them away from the house to live with uncle's and aunties.

How many of YOUR OWN CHILDREN ARE STILL LEFT WITH YOU AT HOME? Because don't tell me they don't make mistakes even while leaving with their parents.

You even have the GUTS to talk about a "perfect child". Which perfect child?

Be honest and take a moment to reflect on the atrocities you have committed when you were only 12 years old.

Reflect. Reflect. Reflect. Did someone ship you off to Uncle's and Aunties?

It Sucks to be you Sir. I'm only glad I don't have to ever listen to you TALK.
Family › Re: My Husband Doesn’t Want My Son To Come And Stay With Us by jelel6: 5:36pm On Mar 13, 2020
klenton:
your indeed blessed with wisdom, if i can see you i will definitely host you for a day

on your last conclusion that if the man says NEVER and insists on NEVER then she has a choice to make whether son or hubby? i say there is no choice to make, the man has already made the choice, the son stays with the mother, there are no two ways about it.

legally too that marriage is voidable as it was obtained by deceit.
Yeah, it seems like he's already made up his mind to not have the boy around his house, which is unfortunate really.

The best option for everyone would have been all 3 children in one roof with Daddy and mummy. The ones who really misses out on what an ideal family setup would have looked like are the kids. With them in consideration I will still advise her to TRY and find a more mutual compromise with her husband.

But her bottom line MUST be that her son stays and enjoy the care only a biological mother can give.
Family › Re: My Husband Doesn’t Want My Son To Come And Stay With Us by jelel6: 12:25am On Mar 13, 2020
culturedboss:
It shouldn't be a big deal nah.Couples like this should agree on how they should live and co-parent before and later after marriage. I knew a couple from work who the woman never wants to see his son.She prefers they send money to the boy's grandmom for upkeep and comes to their house like a guest and stay maybe 3days and leave.The man has had no problems with it even long after marriage til now.I think the boy should be 7yrs or 8yrs now.So my point is aint u people very strange.I'm sure it happens alot with Step mom's but it's not an issh.I think,Kids are so lucky only a few men would cut out their step kids this days or don't dad's need to live together with their growing kids ??
It could work for some people I'm sure. I can't understand those who would change their minds on something as important as this afterwards.

If the kid is all grown up. Like 18-20 and Happy to stay alone, maybe. But I'm not personally going to say my own son or daughter should live elsewhere simply because of marriage. NEVER.

If my future wife agrees then later changes her mind on something like that thinking she's married now and I'm boxed, she's dreaming.

Divorce is allowed for me and I intend to use it as much as needed. My happiness is not really tied to anything talkless of woman. Happiness is a choice and state of mind for me.
Programming › Re: Desktop And Mobile App Developers Needed by jelel6: 12:06am On Mar 13, 2020
MrBible:
Industries do send complex programming projects to Universities worth millions to help come up with a solution, so the truth is that industries are the ones utilising the researches done by computer scientist at universities

A good degree certificate with a little bit of experience allows a developer to research and implement an application that does what the users want. Coders without a university degree have limited knowledge in how to develop applications.
What? Industries asking for help from universities to develop algorithms to solve problems? That's the first time I'm hearing that or anything remotely close to it.

Is it the university professors or the students? Look, a field like technology? No university will be able to keep up with the pace at which the software industry advances. No university. Hence, it's illogical to assume university professors can keep up to date with happenings in the industry to the extent of solving complex problems the industry is facing coupled with their educational duties in acedemics.

I'd give you an example, most of the computer algorithms they teach in computer science classes relating to optimizing the performance of systems, is so out of date that now in actual work environment, optimizing an image you're loading will ACTUALLY improve performance 10 fold.

The drivers of the programming world is definitely not the acedemics, but the industry stakeholders themselves.

The people who are maintaining and improving the programming languages are industry stakeholders.

Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Amazon, Apple Salesforce... These are the tech gaints who actually drive the industry. Do you know the amount of research that goes on in-house at all these companies? They build the tools and softwares and libraries and frameworks that the industry uses. Some of these guys NEVER went to school at all.

React, the JavaScript library, was built by Facebook. When they open source it, Dan Abramov made significant changes to their open source code. Facebook hired him to join the team building and maintaining the React project afterwards. whilst an employee of Facebook, he built REDUX, a state management library to work with REACT. IF you've use REDUX, you'll understand why it's so much regarded in the industry. Using it teaches fundamental programming concepts. It's one of the most thoughtful library to work with out there.

This Dan Abramov, he NEVER studied computer science. And all those algorithms you think is relevant here. Infact, he has a blog where he says a computer science degree is not a good Return on Investment ROI in the software industry, especially if you have to pay thousand dollars to acquire it.

Apart from the natural beliefs employers seem to have in school certificates, it gives almost no leverage in the ACTUAL JOB.

Heck, I'll always be productive than a freshman out of school in the industry because most of what he knows, we don't use. And when or if we do need them, he's forgotten most of it already.
Family › Re: My Husband Doesn’t Want My Son To Come And Stay With Us by jelel6: 11:24pm On Mar 12, 2020
worworbabe:
Why will she hand her son over to anybody.

It appears like aliens and not humans are typing on this thread.
I'm really baffled too. Guys or suppose real men talking like a 12 year old boy is some THING to ship off to anyone who would take him!

I almost couldn't believe it reading the first few pages of opinions, mostly from guys.

You can never know a person until you understand their thoughts process. And everyone's thought process basically classify them as thoughtful or unthoughtful.

I'd easily classify every commenter here into one of those two groups.
Family › Re: My Husband Doesn’t Want My Son To Come And Stay With Us by jelel6: 10:57pm On Mar 12, 2020
Please, for all the guys here who are apparently sympathetic to the Husband, I have a question for you...

How can a man marry a mother of two little kids who are not adults yet and NEEDS TO stay with their mom, would be so ungentlemanly after marriage to request a boy of 12 years begins looking for a relative to stay with whilst his mother is alive, well and capable to look after them?

I'm sure the woman lived with her son and daughter before the husband met them, why marry the mother only to push her son away? Why ask a woman to push her son away because of you?

Things took a hit financially, so you agree with the mother to take the boy to relatives pending improve conditions. Afterwards, the reasonable thing to do is to ask the boy back as soon as things improved. Common!

How can a man feel OKAY when his "marriage" separates his wife and her son?

If a husband CANNOT accept the children of his wife as his partial responsibility due to marriage, how can he then expect any relative whatsoever, to accept the children? Who can be closer to a child than a mom and a step-father?

Original poster @Vyvyanvyvy, if you were my sister, I'd be baffled as to why you'd marry a man who would refuse to allow a small boy stay with you guys. He cannot stay alone. Your husband's excuse that he will influence the girls negatively is simply some fake bullshiit I'd expect from an unthoughtful person.

If that boy were his, do you think he'll send him off to his own brother and leave him there because he's supposedly stealing #100 and biscuits? No! He'll never give up on his OWN CHILD. His own child will never run out of chances.

Besides, a 12 year old boy stealing is NOTHING NEW. Majority of boys did worse growing up. I Stole moms stuff too when I was younger. Majority of the guys or girls, men and women you see commenting here STOLE THINGS if they will be honest with you. But now is the time to straighten your son out. But you can only be sure the best training can be giving if he's with you.

In my short time existing, I've felt real pains when I see how some people treat their relatives who are not part of the immediate family.

I'd be honest to say I myself will not be keen to take in a relative who's not immediate nuclear family, that's the heart. But if I do (which is possible in all ramifications), I'm SURE I'll be Fair and just with them. So you'd understand me when I say I'll NEVER MARRY a woman who can't be fair with my wards. Even if she brought home that said relative, She must be fair and kind to them. And I'm ready to divorce them one after the other if need be.

Reason with your husband with respect and understanding. If he's still adamant, say your brother threatened to throw your son out so you have no other options than to go and bring him with you. If he's still insisting that NEVER means NEVER, I think you can be rest assured he's laying down the ultimate ultimatum, in no uncertain terms:

Son or Hubby? Choose!
Programming › Re: Is My Udacity Nanodegree Certificate Powerful? by jelel6: 4:44pm On Mar 10, 2020
I think an Udacity certificate will look good for anyone applying for an entry-level or junior position because it will give a potential employer some confidence that the person has truly undergone an acceptable level of training.

In addition, the employer has the opportunity to go through the respective coursework and evaluate for themselves the level of exposure the applicant has already.

If money isn't a deal breaker, you can very well go for it. However, at almost a thousand dollars, I'll find it hard to justify the eventual Return on Investment as opposed to using free resources available online or some other cheaper options available on udemy but with similar value still.
Programming › Re: Desktop And Mobile App Developers Needed by jelel6: 4:30pm On Mar 10, 2020
Pelpal:
Still taking
Are you looking for ONE PERSON with all those skills or several developers spread across the Mobile and Web discipline?
Programming › Re: Desktop And Mobile App Developers Needed by jelel6: 4:26pm On Mar 10, 2020
MrBible:
Full-Stack selft-taught with certificate are better as the know the best approach to get the done.
I'm curious. When you say certificate, which certificate exactly are you referring to? A university degree or a piece of paper certifying you completed the course work of one programming class?

A lot of what is obtained in the industry is a completely new world of computer science been taught in school. Don't get me wrong, I'm not undervaluing general knowledge taught in school. But very few of that knowledge will find direct application in the Real World.


Hence, for most cases, the employer sees no "true" difference between a competent developer with a degree or certificate and a competent developer without one.

Besides, the in a field like technology, this sort of knowledge is available to just about anyone looking to learn it.
Programming › Re: How Do I Convert Object To Arrey In Javascript by jelel6: 9:40am On Mar 05, 2020
Venzee:
please i want to a object to an Arrey, so dat i can easly loop it.
i hv try these codes but it dosn't wrk. e.g
var obj = {a: 'venzee',
b:23,
c:false
}
var conv = [].slice.call(obj) or also
var conv = [].concat.call(obj);
pls help me
Be concise and elaborate when when you want to ask technical questions to enable people help you better. Also, endeavor to reply to suggestions to allow people follow up with you according. If you have found a solution, say so to let others know what eventually worked out.

In the example object you provided above. The following object methods would return an array as this:

Object.keys(obj) = [ 'a', 'b', 'c' ];

Object.values(obj) = [ "venzee", 23, false];

Object.entries(obj) = [ [ 'a' : "venzee" ], [ 'b' : 23 ], [ 'c' : false ] ];

All the above methods should give a "Real" array, which you can loop over afterwards using something like map or forEach


If you just want to loop over directly, you can do this...

// Looping over all the values:
for (let value of Object.values(obj)) {
alert(value); // "venzee", -> 23 -> false in that order
};

That should solve your problem
Travel › Re: Travelling To The South For The First Time by jelel6: 4:45pm On Feb 15, 2020
Kai Nigerians. Always quite to HYPE their Culture.

Op. Even though I suspect the OP was trying to wound up our guys from Southside, I'll still give you some advice.

Be careful and vigilant. Avoid small talk and most importantly, whenever you find yourself in any Town down south, whether West, East and South. Don't move unnecessarily when it's Night. Unless you're a bit familiar with the territory.

Arm rubbers, area boys, cultists, Agberos and Even SARS are a nuisance to almost any nook and cranny in the South. You have to know your environ before you can enjoy moving more freely.

Communication is no problem here in the South. Every one speaks Pidgin at least.


For people with objective mind, if you've never been to the North, Don't do yourself a disservice by thinking Boko Haram and herdsmen are walking the streets freely.

For the majority of state in the North, and especially those in the Northwest and Central, their definition of security ACTUALLY includes walking the streets morning and night without any harassment.

In the North, the things we fear at night in the South is not a social vice there.
Islam › Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by jelel6: 10:08am On Feb 09, 2020
midnighter:
You side-stepped first which is why I keep trying to get you to stick to the point.

You asked me whose idea I think religion is because you were trying to disregard the importance of exploring alternative views by saying that religion will always mean different things to different people. Youve been throwing out that line through all your posts and I keep telling you that its hypocritical of you to do that.

You want me to say that I believe religion was God's idea, so that you can tell me that if I truly believe in God's omniscience I should take it without question but Im not going down that road because its not relevant to the issue.

Thats why I told you that whose idea I think it is is not the point. The point is, now that the "idea" or religion is here, how do we go about teaching it to people in a way that benefits society?

Using the sacred intelligence that God gave us to question religious teaching is more respectful to Him than dumbing ourselves down for His sake and ending up committing atrocities, supposedly "in His name".

I didnt say I had never heard anybody speak against terrorism. I said that with regard to NL front page, which reaches millions of people, I had not seen the amount of detail and dedication offered to relevant topics such as fundamentalism, terrorism, elitism and other such things that are actually relevant to Islam in Nigeria in 2020 that is offered to whether a Muslim should own a dog or whether a Muslim should eat garlic and onions.

You say that you cant keep focusing on terrorism which is still hypocritical because Jihad is a fundamental tenet of Islam. So that means youre purposely avoiding talking about Jihad just so that you can avoid confronting the fact that inferiority complex towards Arabs and some twisted romance of psychotic ideals of following the Sunnah of the Prophet saww by engendering misplaced 7th century violence involving attacking random civilians have co-opted the idea.

But because you argue that there are "2 sides to every coin", you people will keep sweeping it under the carpet and pretending the issue doesnt exist while more people are murdered because of poorly-explored ideologies that you refuse to refute properly because you dont want to be a "THINKER".

Its really becoming pathetic and it communicates to me that you people dont take these things seriously. Or even that you agree with them being that way.

Anyway, I can see that you, like so many others on this board, refuse to accommodate other perspectives. I am not surprised.

Happy Saturday to you; Bye!
It was out of respect that I've indulged your MAJOR deviation from the original topic of this thread, which have to do with the Islamic viewpoints concerning dealings with usury.

If you read other notable blogs from all over the world, you'll notice the submissions are majorly confined to the topic of discussion.

It will be uncivil to direct the focus of the discuss away from the original poster's intentions. You're basically telling me because YOU THINK there are other pressing matters facing Muslims today, we shouldn't have the temerity to educate ourselves about other aspects of the religion!

Who are you to decide which sections of religion is relevant and irrelevant?

Funnily, I'm 100 sure YOU actually know what Islam says about terrorism or YOU actually believe what you believe Islam says about terrorism already. Whatever position you have taken about that, I'm sure something informed that knowledge and there are many others like you who happens to have a POSITION about everything Islam. Whatever it is your TRUTH is, the baseline is you found it and so have many others regarding everything you want Muslims to discuss. It was never not discussed. Because YOU found it.

Tomorrow may be for Jihad and Polygamy and terrorism and Fundamentalism and Moon sighting and Charity.

.........BUT

Today was for usury, something I believe you practice because you don't lend your friends and family interest based loans. And I'm sure you can't be happy if you have to pay back with extra. In Islam, every command are mutually exclusive of the other. The fact people will kill tomorrow because of religion doesn't mean we should eat pork today.

Happy Sunday.
Islam › Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by jelel6: 6:23pm On Feb 08, 2020
midnighter:
You still dont get it because its not about "you and I" having "differing interpretations of what Islam means to both of us" . Its about using intelligent discussion to stamp out harmful ideologies from people's world-view.

You are being duplicitous by trying to brush the fact that the Islamic world is severely fragmented along ideological lines (and that those fissures are affecting everybody else) under the carpet.

No matter how much people insult them, the people who write these threads will never write a genuine post explaining why terrorism is not permitted by Islam and get it pushed to Front Page, whyhuh

They would rather copy and paste Wahhabi scripts about pouring water over one's head after sex or banning innocent children from studying philosophy and wait for trolls to come and bash them.

Dont you think its a misplaced priority? After all, like you said, Muslims are dying and being harmed in this too.

Its either that they secretly agree with Islamist terrorism or they are too afraid or unbothered to check what Islam actually says about it.

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1. I am a Christian

2. I have never been a Muslim

3. Anything that claims to give guidamce on how to live one's life is an idea. Whether religious or atheist.

Preventing probing of so-called "Islamic" concepts from a philosophical angle is a sign of insecurity and not piety.

Remember that the number 1 reason that terrorism abounds today is that you cant shoot or bomb the inside of somebody's mind. We cant predict who will go rogue and blow up a crowded market or stab random people to death in the name of Islam

You cant kill an idea. You can only replace it with a better one.

Why wouldnt you want that? I mean, as a practising (and, I daresay somewhat intelligent) Muslim?
You've said a lot of things here. Some how, you've completely sidestepped Who's IDEA YOU THINK Religion - Islam - IS.

I should be able to get that answer for you clearly here. Please, I'll repeat, tell me in no uncertain terms WHOS IDEA ISLAM or Christianity ITSELF is?

You seem to know quite a lot about Islam. So, to have me believe you've not read, or hear a popular Muslim figure speak out against terrorism is baffling.

Even on this board, there have been topics addressing the Islamic viewpoints. I'm very unbothered if you chose not to accept or acknowledge that. As Muslim, we say what Islam preaches as best and through to it as possible. Don't expect us to have validation from the THINKERS before we move ahead. The religion is throughly a way of life. We can't only teach ourselves about it stance against terrorism. There's much more to it and we have to educate ourselves about all of it.

Islam as it is today, have given enough room for rationale. It doesn't ask us not to put it through a litmus test. But when you think you have a BETTER ALTERNATIVE by saying YES to what was explicitly directed to be NO, pardon our stubbornness for chosing to stick with the rationale of someone who claims to be All-knowing.

THINKERS Cherry pick rationale that suits their position. And their can be several reasonable position regarding the same DISPUTE.

WHEN THERE'S an Islamic position Clearly on a subject matter, we defer to it. That's what being a Muslim is all about.
Islam › Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by jelel6: 9:21pm On Feb 07, 2020
Agboriotejoye:
You see why I started with religion being the opium of the masses?
The point of sharia is to ensure everyone carries their cross here on earth. But it seems to have failed in the two example above.
Now, if a state that has embraced Islamic law has allowed others to go because they are powerful, how do you expect those who are under a secular society to live by the just laws you seek to entrench?
So I hope you can see the irony of saying leave the rich to God while holding the poor or helpless to account here on earth.
It's hypocrisy.
If the system is not Islamic, the poor should suffer for it. If it is, the rich are exempted undecided
The purpose of Sharia is not far from what you wrote. Did the Qur'an say people in authority are exempted from Sharia rulings? If they get away with it by virtue of their position, did the Qur'an say the poor or Masses should abandon practicing the Sharia? Or the teachings of the Qur'an.

By the way, how's an elected Governor getting away with stuffing dollars in a secular state like Nigeria a fault of Sharia? Is the government in Kano not an executive one? Is he not the highest authority? Was he appointed through Islamic law? Was he not voted for by non Muslim and pagans and atheist and deist?

No country in the world is practicing Islamic law 100 percent. No country.

Nobody will Force a Muslim to not work in a bank whether rich or poor. If you think the sultans and the Sanusi won't hesitate to be MD at the most prestigious Banks, while it's the common man on the streets who will suffer himself and refuse a clerk position because of Sharia or Qur'an or religion or Allah, by all means work where you want or advised anybody to work where he or she wishes.



Even the devil tempted Jesus.
Islam › Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by jelel6: 7:44pm On Feb 07, 2020
Agboriotejoye:
If you're not willing to go on a particular tangent then you shouldn't expect what you wrote to be accepted as truth.

We have sharia in the northern part of Nigeria today. One of the governors who started it was caught on camera fornicating and he claimed it's no one's business
Another governor recently caught on camera receiving bribes and till today no hisbah police has come to knock on his door. Or is he also enjoying immunity from sharia laws too?

It therefore shows that sharia itself is not a perfect way if it can bow to the superiority of the elite.
So to seek to judge others for their chosen course even in a secular society shows hypocrisy.

There's no way you can cut it that it'll fit perfectly
Don't steal. Steal and you offend God and the men who's money you stole and subject to difficulty.

Don't fornicating. Fornicate and you sinned against God.

Alot of people commit these Acts without anyone knowing. The fact you and I cannot punish the governor doesn't make him sinless!!!
It doesn't delete where the Quran says don't steal and don't fornicate. If by virtue of his position, the governor escape Justice that doesn't validate his actions according to Islam. It doesn't exonerate you and I from our own misgivings.

Every child bears his own Cross. If you think some people are getting away with it and that justifies your own participation, please go ahead.

But remember who you answer to in the end. That's if you believe in that by the way.

Unbelievable logic you have.
Islam › Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by jelel6: 7:31pm On Feb 07, 2020
RisenPhoenix:
I get it.
What of those who work in a conventional bank with an Islamic window like Sterling bank? Especially if they are limited to that division alone?
The is a division Sterling Bank which follows Islamic Banking tenets? I knew nothing of such.

However, working in such division will be unclear in my opinion.

You see, Sterling Bank is a traditional commercial Bank which then introduced an arm that follows Islamic Banking principles I believe.

In Islam, establishing an ordinarily lawful business from unlawful MEANS or PROCEEDS does not necessarily exonerate that business from sins of the past.

Otherwise, a fraudster can dupe today to set up a transportation business and build a mosque tomorrow. What will be the moral of the story? Don't die in sinful ways but make do with it until you're ready to go clean?

A person working in such a division is a bit of a grey area. I'm sure initial funds for setting up such division may come from some of interest based proceeds. We are advised to avoid such situations if possible where there's great uncertainty about two possible options. Leaving them both is the Best.

Allah knows Best
Islam › Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by jelel6: 7:15pm On Feb 07, 2020
Agboriotejoye:
This is why it is said that religion is the opium of the masses.
First of, do you realise there are people who work in banks today who studied engineering, sociology even law? How could they have known they'll end up working in a bank?
The present emir of Kano worked as MD of first bank and is known to be an Islamic scholar.
The fact is that, if a Muslim child shows a natural affinity for finance or banking, you're saying now that such is probably cursed by God to be so gifted or should rather ignore such talents because there are no Islamic banks in Nigeria.
The attempt to control what is beyond you to control is what usually jets to extremism and fanaticism with its attendant ills.
Working in a secular bank is primarily not a choice for anyone who wishes to work in the banking sector in Nigeria just as paying tax is not for anyone
You went on a tangent that I'm not willing to go.

However, Emir Sanusi doesn't define Islam. The Qur'an defines Islam.

I've have no qualms about being "grouped" The Masses in this case. I'm sure you're a conversant about Imams who have advocated for same sex marriage and who are naturally against someone like Emir Sanusi marrying more than one wife. And the traditional Emir will not hear anything homosexuality.

Reconcile your champions of the elites first before an elite and the masses. Even the Elite are more Elites to each other.
Islam › Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by jelel6: 7:02pm On Feb 07, 2020
midnighter:
You're talking from both sides of your mouth.

You admitted that people have different viewpoints while denying them the right to explore whether those viewpoints are correct or not.

So where did Boko Haram learn to kill people?

Don't you think if they were taught to critically evaluate the extremist ideas they were fed, they would know that what they're doing is wrong?

Otherwise how do you know that YOU are not wrong and Boko Haram is not correcthuh

You dont have any right to assume that you are less murderous or suicidal than a Boko Haram member. That is arrogant speculation. You don't know what he has been taught. The point of this is education, enlightenment and teaching.

What is the basis of fiqh schools? What determines who follows which school? Why do Sunnis reject the addition of Imam Alis as name to the Adhan? Why is the hand of Fatima a ubiquitous symbol throughout the Islamic world, even though superstition is banned in Islam?

All you just described here is philosophy, which means you don't even have any problem with philosophy.

You only have a problem with other people not subscribing to your view, based on your interpretation of what the scripture means.

Which is hypocrisy.

Whether you like it or not, religion is just an idea and ideas should be examined and explored and not just swallowed blindly. So philosophy is not unislamic.
Forgive me if I focus on your last paragraph. I'M not dismissing what you wrote earlier.

You and I will, in my opinion, always differ in our interpretations of Islam or religion itself in your case because of WHAT IT IS FOR BOTH OF US.

To you religion is JUST AN IDEA.

Forgive me, but I'm tempted to ask:

1. Are you an adherent to any religion?
2. Are you a Muslim or were you a Muslim?

You can chose not to answer any of course.

But you have to answer this one though:

Religion is just an IDEA. An IDEA of whom?
Islam › Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by jelel6: 6:40pm On Feb 07, 2020
RisenPhoenix:
Ok. This is the clearest comment I have seen on this thread. Correct me if I'm wrong but you basically seems that there is no leeway unless there is no choice due to impositions by an overwhelming regulatory authority. It becomes a little clearer now.

Are you an imam?
Things that are not permissible in Islam, it is the duty of every individual Muslim to STOP its practice. Hence, in a Sharia state interest based banking will or should not be allowed to strive. This responsibility will be normally carried out by the Islamic ruler, like we have in some state in the middle East.

Nigeria is different. The Government is secular. Hence, the ability to STOP interests based transactions is not with the Muslim or Islamic ruler. So, we have commercial interest Banks in full operation.

The Qur'an says Usury is unlawful for Muslim to practice. Hence, I can't take interest based loans and I can't give interest based loans.

In addition, I can't help anyone else promote or practice interest based transactions either.

That is where the OP's question scope falls into. Although Banks do offer other services to the public that does not have anything to do with interest or proceeds from it. Ordinary, it will be permissible to work for such institution without the Usury. But Banks earn the majority of its profit through offering interests based transactions. And one can't work for a Bank and not have them pay you FROM PROCEEDS GOTTEN THROUGH INTEREST. Even though they offer other lawful services from an Islamic perspective.

Unlawful or fobbiden practices may become lawful if it comes to a matter of survival or something harmful may happen to you or someone else if you do not make use of THAT thing that is unlawful.

Assuming a pilot crash landed in a remote forest and only pork meat is available to him as food, which is something that is ordinarily unlawful to eat. Then he is obligated to eat the availability Pork meat and not starve himself. He cannot refuse to eat the Pork in such instance and choose to starve himself to death instead. He will be committing suicide in that case.

Here the unlawful becomes lawful and the Muslim faithful is obligated to use it.

However, working in a Bank in present day Nigeria cannot be justified that there's no alternative. No sincere person can say a Bank Job is the ONLY POSSIBLE MEANS OF earning food to eat! You can't indulge in unlawful practice except to the bearest minimum for survival. Working in a Bank is no survival move, IT IS A KINGS MOVE.

If you claim that your expenses can only be met with a Bank Job, then we have to excuse the Arm robbers and Internet Fraudsters who says the millions gotten from such operation is the ONLY avenue open for them to cater for their needs.

I'm not an Iman in the traditional sense of the word

Allah knows Best
Islam › Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by jelel6: 5:40pm On Feb 07, 2020
midnighter:
You are being insincere.

Tell me, are ALL the ideas and concepts that we see being claimed as Islamic Islamic?

Including the ideologies of Boko Haram. Including the defence of gay and lesbian Muslims. And including your own comment where you stated that anybody who tries to give the excuse of being unable to find a job in a non-usury-based institution is only deceiving himself.

Do you agree with EVERYTHING people on this thread have said concerning usury? If not, then philosophy and critical thinking are required.
When Jesus Christ walked this earth, even his deciples misunderstood his works at every turn. He had to continually correct their interpretations and reasonings as regards the purpose of the gospel they preached.

Hence, it's totally alright to conclude every religion, every beliefs, every systems is susceptible to abuse by it users. Whether that abuse is as a result of innocent intentions or evil machinations is subject to interpretations.

No Muslims who is incapable of committing murder or suicide themselves will support Boko Haram.

Boko Haram tell themselves other Muslims are not true believers because they refused to Bomb humans in Mosques, Churches, and Markets.

Other Muslims tell themselves Boko Haram are not true Muslims because they are fond of bombing mosques, Churches, markets, raping women, abducting hostages.

Gay Muslims and lesbians are saying others are living in Stone age.

Other Muslims are saying Gays and lesbians are taking us back to Sodom and Gamorah.

You can add every other two sides of a divide you can think of. However, the ONE connection they all cannot dispute is that the religion is ISLAM. NOT MUSLIM.

Study Islam with the Qur'an and judge the religion by it. Not what Abu Shakau, Buhari, Me, You, or the Holy Spirit whispers in humans. Then, use your critical thinking, rational, intuition, learning, understanding to deferentiate Truth from Falsehood.

My stance on Usury was clear. Hence, naturally, goes against so many others here.

If tomorrow, you see me working in a Bank after my submission here, as long as I still identify as Muslim to you, don't erroneously classify me in the same group as those who rationalize it here and see it as permissible because of the living conditions.

See me then as a Muslim who's sinning and acknowledges that. Not someone who believes he's not sinning simply because he does not agree Usury is a sin in his circumstance.

Muslims are subjected to the rulings of all of Islam for all times, whether they like it or not. Whether it suits them or not.

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