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1025 said:

not when the troubled egypt is more peaceful than your country.
how many ppl have died since the begining of the crises and how many have died in the last two weeks? i think jonathan's best option is to resign now or step down from the forthcoming election.
he is not what we need at the moment despite all his goodnesses.

You're an extremely stuppid, ignorant buffoon with no working brain to say Egypt is 'more peaceful' than Nigeria at the moment. Worthless, ill-informed mouse.

I wonder what a worthless basstard like you filled with hatred for Nigeria is doing on a Nigerian forum.

blacksta said:

Interesting -  hope it is not follow follow

For sure  - we all know that GEJ wont send a plane cause we dont have one.

God knows which latrine you were educated in to make such an ignorant, senseless comment.

violent said:

The smart ones will rather stay in Egypt than come home to Jos, afterall, soldiers don't have a "fire at will" order in Egypt!

Dumbo, you do know that 150 people were killed in riots in Egypt yesterday alone. Maybe it was your father's catapult that killed them, brainless cow.

Great stuff, but, whatever happened to her jail term?

Was it served?

The problem stems from YOU accepting that this is a valid description or portrayal of God in the first place.

This person or entity being described by the Jewish bible is NOT God.

At most, it's a Jewish tribal deity (Yahweh).

That is the answer to your question.

The idea that the Creator of the universes spoke to any of those Jews or prophets or whatever you wish to call them is ludicrous.

In terms of political evolution, Nigerians have nothing to learn from modern Egypt.

The Egyptians have an awful lot to learn from us. Like someone said, where they are now politically is where we were during the Babangida era 25 years ago. And that's being charitable.

Some might argue - with merit - that they go further back to the Gowon era.

THIS is why the people are in revolt.

Poverty in Egypt - Cairo

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Complete breakdown of law and order being reported throughout Egypt.

This cannot continue much longer!

Egypt is in danger of becoming a Somalia if Mubarak continues to cling to power against the wishes of the people. He has only a few hours left before we reach the tipping point.

Power sweet this man too much. The people have spoken loud and clear - ''Oga it is time to go''.

Still he won't hear. Now he's appointing Vice President, Prime Minister etc, all to placate the people.

But that is not enough. The people want HIM gone.

That's what they want. Yet he won't hear.

What a man.

What a waste of space.

I've no idea why some people are attacking this woman for her speech. She sounds like a very homely, down to earth Nigerian mother. I found her posture quite appealing. Her reading and diction were fine. Absolutely nothing worthy of a fuss.

Some people here really have issues!

Let me help you here. There was an election, and Ouattara won and was supposed to be sworn in as president(in fact he has been sworn in as president),only the former man does not want to step down. The US calls for the former president to step down so the new president can legitimately begin his term. According to the Ivory Coast Constitution, Ouattara has a more legitimate claim(You may want to spend sometime reading that document to get a better understanding of why people are claiming that the council made an illegal, hence illegitimate move by their own constitugtion before you go around declaring what you are not even informed on).

Stop talking rubbish about Ivory Coast's constitution. Does Egypt not have a Constitution?

Does the Egyptian constitution allow for a REPRESSIVE DICTATOR to rule for 30 years, jailing and murdering opposition figures at will? Declaring himself ''winner'' of heavily rigged elections by 90% margins?

Why has America NEVER asked Mubarak to STEP DOWN, or hold proper ELECTIONS, on threat of withdrawing the $2 billion annual aid given Egypt, the second largest recipient of US aid?

In the Egyptian case, you have a government experiencing problems with it's people.

Experiencing problems You must be off your trolley. The people want their DICTATOR GONE, because they are fed up of suffering in poverty, joblessness and hunger, while Mubarak and his cronies large it up in luxury.

''Experiencing problems with the people'' indeed!

Long story short, the people want to over throw the government completely, but but there does not seem a new set of people taking over.

Absolute garbage. There is ALWAYS ''a set of people to take over'' from a DICTATOR. Where did the new leaders of Tunisia come from? The moon?

What are you doing reading in between your IMAGINED LINES. Why not read things as they are, and it is clear as day that the whole world is still sitting to see how far this will go, instead of making rash judgements. The last thing any sane person wants is a power vaccum. OPEN YOUR EYES TO SEE things as they really are, rather than creating meaningless connections in thin air please.

Why did  ''the world'' not sit back and allow the Ivoriens sort out their problems, and ''see how far it will go''?

Why did ''the world'' not sit back and allow Zimbabweans to sort out their problems, and ''see how far it will go''?

Stay there and be deceiving yourself. Mubarak is a HABITUAL ELECTION RIGGER BAR NONE. A DICTATOR WITH 12,000 POLITICAL PRISONERS LANGUISHING IN JAIL. A KLEPTOCRAT WHO HAS RULED EGYPT WITH AN IRON FIST FOR 30 YEARS. He is FETED by the USA. He even got a State Visit by Obama a year ago in which the US president addressed their parliament!!

Don't tell me America is ''just right'' to lend Mubarak ANY support at all, or ''sit back and see how it will go'', or maintain any sort of friendly relations with him.

If they do, they are guilty of DOUBLE STANDARDS, HYPOCRISY, and DUPLICITY.

You cannot go around preaching democracy, free and fair elections, promoting violence to overthrow the likes of Gbagbo, and sanctions to finish off Mugabe, while WINING AND DINING WITH 30 YEAR RULING, REPRESSIVE, KLEPTOCRATIC ARAB DICTATORS.

Kobojunkie said:

Millions around the world heard today that the USA is not backing the Egyptian President. Do we simply deny that ever happened because you want to hold on to , and probably continue to propagate that story there?

The US president IS backing Mubarak. You really need to wake up. President Obama just made a speech now in which he stated he'd just got off the phone with Mubarak, and had asked him to implement ''reforms'', which addressed the ''legitimate grievances of the Egyptian people''. 

He asked Mubarak to engage in ''meaningful dialogue'' with the people. He didn't ask him to STEP DOWN, being a repressive dictator who rigged the last elections which he ''won'' by over 90% of the votes!

He asked him to ''implement much needed reforms''.

I don't recall Gbagbo being treated in this manner.

Or Bob Mugabe.

The USA is even now actively canvassing for Gbagbo to be military attacked and deposed by force!!

But Gbagbo has a far more legitimate claim to power in Ivory Coast than Hosni Mubarak has in Egypt.

So what gives

Kobojunkie said:

I am watching it live on Al Jazeera, and they have repeated quite often that the Egyptian president is not being endorsed by the US President.

When will you understand the subtle nuances of diplomacy, political-speak and international geopolitics in general?

Meanwhile I once read some predictions of Nostradamus that the 'Final Conflict' will start by angry Arab hordes overthrowing their regimes and heading in force to Europe to help topple systems there too.

1025 said:

charity must begin at home.
for any nigerian to think of a united africa, is either that one think of a united nigeria first or go to hell.

This is a highly simplistic way of looking at it. Nigerians are essentially united even as we stand today. The problem is that the political/economic structure in place is such that it is easily manipulated by powerful elements for their own nefarious advantage. This they do by whipping up ethnic sentiments to suit their agenda. But when power moves to a centralized African government, those enabling structures will be automatically removed/altered, thus neutralizing those elements.

archive, you do realize that the population of Africa is 1.2 billion, while China's is over 2 billion!

So it makes no sense to say ''Africa is too big to be a United States''.

If China had been split into 55 ''independent'' countries, they would be nowhere near as rich and powerful as they are today. Each of the countries would have been colonized by western multinationals, and controlled by the IMF, as happens in Africa.

ogoamaka99 said:

@jen33,
   My dear jen33, many are in this forum to interact and learn new thing. May you kindly explain to us the full meaning of spirituality and what one should do to be spiritual.

Spirituality is selflessness. A deep realization that all life is essentially ONE, that we are ALL connected. All expressions of God, from a beggar in Tibet to a dictator in Berlin, from a muslim in Afghanistan to an Ifa adherent in south west Nigeria, all are valid expressions of God, and worthy of Love, understanding, and comradeship. All religions are mere paths to the Higher Consciousness we call God, with none superior or inferior to the other. When you arrive at this level of awareness, you lose all hatred, you give more, you share more, you care more about the welfare of others, you are less focused on ''me'', but rather, on ''us''.

This is what being spiritual is all about. This is the underlying message of ALL religion. Ignored by the vast majority of adherents.

In Nigeria, the christian faith has been distorted to an inglorious bonanza of ''prosperity preaching'' that flies in the face of all spirituality. An enthronement of a grasping, materialistic, ''me first'' approach to religion that runs contrary to even the most basic spiritual principles.

SO THE USA THINKS IT'S OK FOR MUBARAK TO RULE FOR 30 YEARS?


Why then are they so desperate to oust GBAGBO of Ivory Coast,  who has been there less than 10 years?

US Vice President Joe Biden even stated yesterday: 'Mubarak is not a dictator'!!

Oh he just got voted in legitimately by an adoring public for 30 years straight, right Joe?

Biden in response to the question, ''Should Mubarak step down?'' answered: ''No''.

Despite the fact Mubarak has rigged every election in his 30 years in power.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2011/0127/Joe-Biden-says-Egypt-s-Mubarak-no-dictator-he-shouldn-t-step-down

DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS

Or should I say, United States of Double Standards

Mr EzeUche, aka Biafran wannabe, I guess any opportunity to bash Nigeria, even when it is old news repackaged as breaking news in order to deceive us into thinking 200 people were killed today in Jos.

What are you, a purveyor of lies, or just a supporter?

ZIM DRILL said:

do you know why most zimbabweans hate mugabe, yes the idead to give land is good we cant dispute that but the way it was done was wrong

most of his party ellite members got most of the good farms and then middle class got the farms for the name of it, just to have land therefore killing commercial farming, for the past 10 years they have been given free seeds and machinery to help them but nothing is much produced

and few people that worked in those farms got the farms and those who really needed to be re settled got few and a lot where never re settled to better farming areas there is no point in giving back the land to ellite black people only, right now his nephew bought all land around the city of harare and the city has to bribe him to sell it back to the city


yes it sounds good when you read and when mugabe talks about it but come to zimbabwe and see the sitaution on the ground ask people who really benefited from the land grab?

the people from the farms where never relocated, few got farms the rest where kicked out by the new farms owners

few farms where bought by the governement to build new houses for the urban people

his governement knocked down all illegal structures without giving them new places to settle

right now he is forcing exisiting big companies to sell their share to black people 49% for blacks if blacks can buy 49% why cant they group up and start their own companies?

am not against black enpowerment but dont kill the already existing companies when unemployment is above 80% the law should be any new company trying to invest in zimbabwe

So much innuendo, hearsay, gossip, conjecture, and allegation, without a single shred of proof.

By the way, SO WHAT if some of the best land with mineral resources were shared among private Zimbabwean black companies, ie the Zimbabwean black elite?

That's just the way it goes in the capitalist system we find ourselves in.

You expected the govt to hand over prime land with mineral resources to poor peasants who would sell it off the next day to whitey for a pittance?

Sorry, but Mugabe had that angle COVERED.

He is nobody's fool.

Britain that taught you to hate Mugabe, how many 'commoners' own even a hectare of land in Britain?

Are the land owners not led by the Queen herself, the various Lords, Earls, and other Aristos?

The same Britons were asking Mugabe to distribute prime Zimbabwe land to ''the majority commoners''!

Do as I say not as I do, with ZIM DRILL the chief obedient peasant!

This is a very misleading report. And people here have grossly misinterpreted it.

This report is not referring to any fresh violence in Jos.

Ikengawo, thanks very much for your impressive analysis. I might add that the African Renaissance is truly underway even beyond Nigeria, with many African countries in the last decade similarly experiencing the highest annual  economic growth rates since independence:

http://www.mckinsey.com/mgi/publications/progress_and_potential_of_african_economies/index.asp

Instead of coming here to disturb us with this redundant rhetoric, why don't some of you people study CURRENT TRENDS on the continent, and feed on THAT?

Now, WHAT do current trends SHOW?

Here's what:


http://www.mckinsey.com/mgi/publications/progress_and_potential_of_african_economies/index.asp

The continent is MAKING GOOD PROGRESS AS WE SPEAK.

What more do you want?? For all Africa to become Switzerland next year??

So please please, stop this backward looking, ''oh why are we so behind'', MOANING, learn a thing or two about what's happening TODAY, and decide how YOU wish to contribute to the African Renaissance.

wesley80 said:

An intolerant Buhari or a very proud Ribadu would equate such criticisms as treachery and we all know their favorite weapons dont we? So all in all as it so often is these days, its a plus for Gej.

Never a truer word spoken!!

Highly skewed and selective list.

There are many African presidents of the age range of the European ones you posted.

One of them is your own current president.

monkeyleg said:

Why dont you show me your own proof that what BBC said was wrong.

Guy, How the hell am I supposed to prove a  negative?

It is your BBC that should provide evidence of their charges.

I don't expect you to ask them for any evidence, since their word is law to you apparently!

Almost as if God Himself spoke!

I am now convinced that Nigeria is littered with young and old men with serious mental issues

Which news media in the entire country can be considered credible

None, if they all take their cue from the BBC like you!

redsun said:

It is quite scary when you speak to real life nigerians in nigeria,especially the ones that are fairly ok,they just think the situation is normal.

It is normal for a minister or perm sec to get 20 percent of any contract awarded as kickback.

Dude that shiit happens all over the world. Shine your eyes. You must be really daft if you think multibillion contracts awarded in the west are not oiled by all sorts of backhand deals. They just don't make a huge fuss of it, or make loud charges against others without evidence they way the likes of YOU  and your ILK do, something to which you think you're entitled.

monkeyleg said:

Maybe I am blabbing, but even bbc reported that the whole primaries thing, in thier words was a "Cash and Carry" affair,  Once again I may be blabbing, but I believe in the truth, not like most who think a corrupt process will produce good eggs.

And so the helll what if BBC reported this?

Since when did the BBC become a credible source of information on anything especially pertaining to Britain's ex colonies, Nigeria including? DUMMMYYY!!!!!

These born again people don't actually understand the meaning of spirituality. They mistake this their ''Jesus, Jesus'' business for spirituality. Their focus should be on their conduct towards other expressions of life on this earth - humans, animals, and the earth itself. Instead, they waste all their time ''loving Jesus'' who they cannot see.

This was Blair's foreign secretary Clare Short's letter to Mugabe's govt washing Britain's hands off the Land Reform Agreement in 1997:

Excerpt:

''I should make it clear that we do not accept that Britain has a special responsibility to meet the costs of land purchase in Zimbabwe. We are a new Government from diverse backgrounds without links to former colonial interests. My own origins are Irish and as you know we were colonised not colonisers.''

http://charlescrawford.biz/blog/art826

Clare Short's insulting letter to the Zimbabwean govt. The letter that sparked off the land seizures, which led to the western media demonisation of Mugabe.

Did the BBC and CNN ever tell you ANYTHING about this letter??

In fact if you read the entire letter and analysis on the link, you will be shocked by the pompous, dismissive attitude of the Blair govt towards the Zimbabweans, something which led directly to the crisis.

WHERE DID YOU EVER SEE THIS ON A BBC, CNN, OR NTA BROADCAST IN ALL THE YEARS OF THEIR REPORTING ZIMBABWE?

I'LL ANSWER FOR YOU:

NOWHERE.

This was Blair's foreign secretary Clare Short's letter to Mugabe's govt washing Britain's hands off the Land Reform Agreement in 1997:

Excerpt:

''I should make it clear that we do not accept that Britain has a special responsibility to meet the costs of land purchase in Zimbabwe. We are a new Government from diverse backgrounds without links to former colonial interests. My own origins are Irish and as you know we were colonised not colonisers.''

http://charlescrawford.biz/blog/art826

Clare Short to Zimbabwean govt. The letter that sparked off the land seizures, which led to the western media demonisation of Mugabe.

Did the BBC and CNN ever tell you ANYTHING about this letter??