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ifeness:
The Sun is the light of the world of course. Bible can say anything,doesn't make it true. You don't even know who wrote it. and it is really annoying what this bastards have done to humans with the Bible.

You are Christ. You deserve to know that at least. I feel sorry for you guys tho

Of course I know who wrote the scriptures. Are you kidding me?

And what makes you think the bible isn't true?. Comes to Christ bro! And you will see all we've been saying all along isn't a lie.

ifeness:
What response was TKO?? I didn't even see that. A test of radiation will be a proof. But I'm sure those who wanna keep Christianity valid will block the truth from coming out.

Lol!

The archeologists were not even Christians. Or don't you know when they go on excavation they usually carry out radiation tests so as not to come into harms way?

ifeness:
Embrace the divinity in yourself. Know that you are the light of the world,You are God. That way you create more positive energy to move your up the ladder of ignorance.

Well, I am one with Jesus so yes I am also divinity.

Scripture also says He is the true light that lighteth all men. And He says I am also a light of the world.

We are one. He is in me and I am in Him. But you can't be divinity or a light if you have not connected with the source.

Just saying.

ifeness:
That bible quotes have so far helped no one so far because they took it literally. It actually meant you finding yourself. Discover that you are a God and the divinity in you.

It has helped me o.

And how does "come unto me" translate to discover yourself?

ifeness:
That is conspiracy theory? You couldn't even back up ur claims. Ok where was King David buried??

See question o.

Where are the bits and pieces of the atomic bomb that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah?

ifeness:
I have no clue. You tell me. I am very much pro-human and I believe we are giving our physic powers away to unknown beings who drain us daily.

The amount of energy drained from humans daily by unknown figure like Allah and Yahweh is ridiculous.

Energy When I am at rest.

Matthew 11
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

KingEbukasBlog:
Your middle name should be delusion .

Jeromejnr dont bother yourself , he has been brainwashed by Youtube videos and stupi.d websites on utter balderdash concerning aliens and the truth about them .

It can very misleading and ifeness has been drowned by the folly of their "findings"

Lol!

Fairy tales from youtube. And all their conspiracy theories.

ifeness:
Sodom and Gommarah,the city destroyed with atomic weapon. What's special about them? That city was full of deformed genetic humans,or not the perfect humans,so it was destroyed. What's your point? I would assume David would be buried in a special Tomb

Ewoooooo!

And no mention of radiation has been found in the area. With all their futuristic weaponry.

BTW, Sodom and Gomorrah existed BTW 2000 BC and 1900 BC.

Long after you could even claim the so called deformed genetic humans had been wiped out.

ifeness:
I have got access to esoteric knowledge. What's wrong with that. I have many books at my disposal and I have visited many ancient sights. When you seek the truth you shall find.

You didn't answer my question.

Do you even know the meaning of Atheism?

ifeness:
So you think. But it's ok to believe what you want. Don't just fall victim and get your time wasted believing their lies. Do you think the Illuminati ain't clever? They let you think they are evil. The truth is in plain sight. Enjoy your day.

You can never get your time wasted in believing in God. But you can if you don't.

ifeness:
Jesus's story is all about the astrological signs evolving around the sun. Nothing special. The stories from Moses(age of Aries) were based on ages and end of ages. The wheel of reincarnations in this reality. The story of the water bearer was that of the age of Pisces heading to the age of Aquarius(information age/era) It's all codes meant for the clever minds to solve.

Wait first, are you sure you are an atheist?

ifeness:
If I decide not to believe that Oduduwa(which is my ancestral cosmology) was involved in the creation of the universe,why would I believe the Jewish version?

There is no evidence of King David,Solomon,Obadiah,all the kings of Israel. Not one tomb of these kings found. No evidence of the tomb or at least the cross of Jesus. Common,even the Benin kings have their monarch's tombs which you can visit. And to add hell fire to a non existing story was a total turn off.

You and your assumptions.
http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-artifacts/artifacts-and-the-bible/the-tel-dan-inscription-the-first-historical-evidence-of-the-king-david-bible-story/

BTW, Sodom and Gomorra that was even before Davids time was just recently found and researchers tell us the city actually came to a sudden end as the bible said.

ifeness:
Don't worry their is no god. Not one found yet. If the Bible claims there is a god,you will need to verify from other books. The idea of god came from Egypt. Amen Ra was the first being to claim he was a god. That was also stolen by the Jew. Why do you say Amen at the end of your prayers? I guess you had no clue where that came from.

Mr. Man, don't delude yourself. The word amen in the Hebrew and Greek is different from that of the Egyptian.

Just as there are some similar words in two different languages but mean different things entirely. There is no argument there.

The word amen (/ˌɑːˈmɛn/ or /ˌeɪˈmɛn/; Hebrew: אָמֵן, Modern amen, Tiberian ʾāmēn; Greek: ἀμήν; Arabic: آمين‎, ʾāmīn ; "So be it; truly" is a declaration of affirmation found in the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament.

ifeness:
Wow finally you used the word "aliens" and not Satan or demons!!!(clap for yourself)

There is no Lord. Please stop that! Tell me how you came to that? And besides why do you think the book of Enoch was not included in the Bible?

Aliens simply means Foreigner Mr. Man. Not some spooky green lizard creature.

BTW, a disciple of Jesus in his letter to a church, quoted out of the book.

ifeness:
The first prophet to see the bible you mean including the 10 commandments and the new testament!!?

Other humanoids being who live in other planet,who possess advance flying craft would visit our planet from the future and carry out genetic programs to save their dying race. What's wrong with that? Even humans on this planet migrate to other countries to get a better life. Ain't humans already visiting the moon and Mars with flying craft?

And lets get this clear. Enoch wasn't even a Jew,he was a Sumerian. And yes he meet with Extraterrestrial from other planet. What's so special with that? (nothing like fallen angels)

Oh, so you know.

But this same Enoch also prophesied of the coming the Lord.

And also at that time, people didn't know they were fallen angels, they just saw them as we would see them today- aliens.

ifeness:
You still don't get it. I am telling you what older books said about the history of man and where they got their god ideology from. It is dangerous to be a one book man. Other books gave more valid point. Besides,it is obvious the bible stories weren't the originals.

Do you know of the book of Enoch? Enoch was the first prophet we see in the bible.

And it was reaveled that there was a time when other worldly beings (fallen angels) came and lived among mong and thought men a lot of (well let me call it) "scientific" things which included some things we would call magic today. Anyways, later on those beings were banished from the earth.

There is a book of books which reveals all truth. So your so called Sumerian or whatever could have been this same angels.

KingEbukasBlog:
So you believe the Sumerian story to be true ?

*Grabs popcorn ***

Abeg pass me some popcorn, I would love to watch how he makes a mess of himself.

ifeness:
It's shocking that all you quotes are from one book,one book! which isn't the oldest history book known to man. We have hundreds of Cosmology and you got your idea from just one! Do you want me to quote the Yoruba Cosmology,or the Vedas,or the Egyptian book of the dead or the Sumerian tablet(which appears to be where the Jew copied their stories from)

The Sumerian tablet made it clear these gods where a race of being(Elohims) who came to the planet to mine gold and thereby added their dna to humans already on the planet to help them mine the gold,which we are basically doing till this day.

I'm sure you won't believe that story since that's not what you were brought up with. There is no god out there and you cannot give evidence from a book which was severally photocopied from others. So far there is no astrological evidence that the bible characters actually existed. But look at Egypt! You can see their past with big pictures which you cannot claim they did not exist. The evidence is obvious,so why not regard their own side of the story rather than the ones with no shred of evidence?

Ewoooo. Ifeness just mentioned astrology.

So that means you believe in the supernatural. I thought you were an atheist?

BTW, how can you say the bible characters never existed? Do you even read archeological articles at all?

Well, I just wanted to point out the flaws in your argument.

OP..nice write up. I even had to save the page.

dalaman:
Series of explanations or series of lies? It is very obvious that they are explaining it away.

Read the explanation put forth by Richirich713 and the link posted by Jeromejnr you will see that their explanation of the verse is totally different. Which of them is true and which is false? From that you can see that christians just make things up as they go and lay claim to this elusive and imaginary holy spirit. Is it the same holy spirit that interpreted the verse to Jeromejnr and Richirich713? why are their explanations very different? You guys just don't have anything to say, just keep telling lies for Jesus, since that is all you are good at.

So what is the summary of your message?

dalaman:
The link you posted has christians giving different views and opinions on what thye believe the bible to be saying there. I don't need any body's view, the passage is very clear, 'i'll just go with what the passage says not some confused apologist whose opinion doesn't even matter.

1. You didn't even read it.

2. Now you decide to stick with a scripture because it suits you.

3. The bible was not even written for nonspiritual people in the first place so why are you ranting?

Teempakguy:
nice try. you aren't pulling me back into your convoluted discussion. everything i say will be countered by you using a de facto explanation. we're talking about a non-falsifiable notion here.

I thought you left the thread for a more "smarter" community. Or are you affected by the fact that your intelligence has been proven otherwise so you have to reclaim your lost glory?

dalaman:
They are all falling over their heads trying to explain the very clear passage away.

Since I see you decided to picky. Why don't you enlighten yourself with this:

https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/668-what-is-the-meaning-of-matthew-10-23

Note: make sure you read it carefully and don't come here and twist words.

Teempakguy:
wait a second . . . are you trying to tell me the codes came out of nothing? how do you create something our of nothing?

btw, you play GTA 5? see you in hell, bro.

Haha! So you agree the codes came out of something. That's good.

Lol! I don't even own a GTA 5, I decided to use something I am sure you would be accustomed to. I ain't got time for games mehn.

Teempakguy:
obviously. i had to cop out because i ran out of arguments.
I really should have stayed in the science section. where common sense was common.

Yea! Common sense is saying my GTA 5 game codes have been in existence in the universe millions of years ago.

KingEbukasBlog:
Every christian is a disciple(follower) of Christ and this warning/instruction has also been applied even in modern times . Dalaman you are beginning to bore me . Looks like Teempakguy is more interesting to argue with , by the time we are through he might not visit the science section again

Lol!

That Teempak guy is funny. He is establishing as laws his own notions.

I create my own programming language using my own symbols and closed circuit switches how was all that existing in the universe for me to tap into? SMH for the guy.

It's a good thing he left early.

Teempakguy:
yeah . . . right. unlike you two, i possess the algorithm to determine that this argument can go on forever. without either party giving in. i also possess the algorithm to decide that this is not in my best interests. so, bye once again. maybe someday when i'm less busy and more foolish, i will consider replying.

now quit the ad hominem!

I also possess the algorithm to know that this is a cop out comment.

veritas vos liberabit!

Teempakguy:
chess has laws of it's own. and i brought it up to illustrate that experience doesn't work when knowledge is involved.

you're not getting anything i'm saying. i'm saying his analogy is flawed and it is not an accurate representation of how the world works.

oh great. metaphors again.

this discussion is over. i just wasted two hours discussing . . . nothing with you folks. if i had spent that period reading, i know how much more knowledge i would have gained. I'm done with you guys. it's time for me to start doing what will actually matter to me and my life. you can keep serving your God. after all, my punishment is just an eternity of torment. not that long.

cheers.

Lol. He has evaded the discussion.

Let me continue my movie.

Teempakguy:
who fucking cares about experience, dude. the youngest chess grandmaster in the world is thirteen, dude. he's played with people who has years of experience thrice is own. and won.

one flaw in his argument where i just tuned off was where he brought out a picture of a timeline from NASA. and then claimed that everywhere there was no diagram was nothing. are you kidding me? the satellite in the picture is in the area he claimed was nothing. as is the light emanating from the singularity. what a poor analogy.

and this same bible claimed that a third of those stars fell to the earth.

1st Paragraph: Playing chess has nothing to do with using years of facts to establish laws. Talent is different from years of study and research. Except you want to say you are "supernaturally" gifted to understand the complex workings of the universe.

2nd Paragraph: The concept of nothing outside the universe is a theory accepted by majority. Except you want to go onto the issue of multi-verses.

3rd Paragraph: Stars in the book of Revelation represented angels the same way seas represented a multitude of people. So don't even bring that issue up.

Richirich713:
It does if u misinterpret his words.

Just like the Jews Completely misunderstood him wen he said "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up again"

Or just like a Jewish teacher Nicodemus misunderstood jesus use of the term "born again "

On point.

He needs to as well understand the meaning of prophetic words.

Teempakguy:
what box? your reply is ready, i made sure to read your text and watch the video properly so i could nail your logical coffin well.same with algorithms, dude. algorithms have always existed but had to be discovered before they could be applied. in fact, some of the algorithms we use in computer programming today have already been used by nature for millenia. i just didn't mention that earlier because your reply would be . . .

GOD DEFINITELY DID IT.

Why don't you read my reply and ask me for proofs.

Teempakguy:
your thread is fundamentally flawed. first, it assumes that you can make the universe out of nothing provided you have the laws of nature. but the fact is, you really don't. you need absolutely nothing to create something from nothing because nothing itself is self prohibiting.
second, physical laws are physical. not nonphysical as he claims. electromagnetic force, the weak force, the strong force, they are all physical. not spiritual or anything. that is the reason why we could find them in the first place.
the beginning which the bible claims is the beginning of earth. not the beginning of the universe. in fact, the bible claimed that the earth already existed and had water before the sun came around. and that light from the sun was created AFTER plants. in fact, God is said to have created light twice in genesis chapter one. in verse three and verse fourteen.

the bible does nothing to explain how the lights worked. or the other planets orbiting said light. or the fact that the earth was actually orbiting the said light. the bible also declined to state how the sun is the remnant of an earlier star that exploded. of which the earth is too.

science did all that.
but no. give god all the credit for giving scientists the brains they used.

Wow! so you a teenager are smarter than the scientist who has had years of experience in his field?

But the bible does state the motions of stars which was only just recently discovered.