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Christianity EtcRe: East Coast Americans Least Likely To Believe In God by JeSoul(f): 7:29pm On Jun 06, 2011
xgel:
Finally, East Coast Americans are the least likely to believe in god, and Southerners are the most, with the West and the Midwest coming in equally in between.
And I'm sure if you broke it down even further, you'd find that North-easterners are the least likely to believe in God. We are very proud, 'practical' people up here.
SportsRe: NBA Season 2010/11 by JeSoul(f): 6:59pm On Jun 06, 2011
Fhemmmy:
Bosh was never a great player . , he was just fortunate to be a "one eyed" man in the land of the blind . . Toronto
Na wetin I bin dey talk since forever oh.

Mavs una never see anything yet. You cannot let opportunities like these slip away. I know the Miami defense is formidable but the amount of careless turnovers I've seen from Dallas over the first 3 games is inexcusable. Turnovers is Miami's bread & butter, they are unstoppable in the open court. Continue like that and we will be crowning the Cryami Cheat Floppers with their first title together.
SportsRe: Tennis: Roland Garros 2011 (where Are All These Yeye Tennis Fans Self) by JeSoul(op): 6:55pm On Jun 06, 2011
Was confined to following the match using my Roland Garros app so I missed all the live action . . . but congrats to Fed I mean Nadal angry tongue but ehn, 6 FO is not a joke at all, very very impressive in this era of parity esp on the men's side.

You people self, nobody congratulated Li Na on her first FO title and first chinese ever to win. And anybody else annoyed at people mocking schiavone for looking masculine? Your body is your body jor.
SportsRe: Tennis: Roland Garros 2011 (where Are All These Yeye Tennis Fans Self) by JeSoul(op): 8:44pm On Jun 03, 2011
harmeenut:
your money is going going going going


GONE grin
Lol

Congrats Fedex! Another epic GS-final battle between you and capri boy. I hope you send his skinny behind back to Majorca  grin. And congrats to Djokovic as well, that was one helluva streak and you're worthy of the respect it deserves.
SportsRe: Tennis: Roland Garros 2011 (where Are All These Yeye Tennis Fans Self) by JeSoul(op): 7:45pm On Jun 03, 2011
^lol.
Joker cannot just go down 3sets like that, its to be expected he'll fight hard. This is inspired tennis from Federer whom everyone thot would be lashed by Novak.

Congrats to Nadal entering the finals. I honestly didn't think he had enough in the tank to make this strong run. Very impressive! But I still hope Joker or Fedex will deny you #10. Men's side . . . #'s 1, 2 & 3 left in the tourney. Women's side? is anyone even paying attention? grin

iice:
[color=#9900ff]Good Li Na bounce that bleating sheep. Needs to be sequestered on a ranch or something.
Now if she can do away with the other porpoise. . .i'll have a noise free day[/color]
Ouch!!! grin grin grin
SportsRe: NBA Season 2010/11 by JeSoul(f): 7:40pm On Jun 03, 2011
^I previously saw those replays on tv but I'm reminded again . . . the NBA should come up with some kind of penalty for flopping, this is just inexcusable and makes a mockery of the game.
SportsRe: NBA Season 2010/11 by JeSoul(f): 4:50am On Jun 03, 2011
WOW!!!! Did Dallas just win that game? My goodness what a comeback. My hubby said to me with 5mins left 'watch, Dallas is going to make a run' and i replied 'nah, this game is over. Be like say the guy is psychic. Wow congrats Dallas fans on an incredible win.  And btw, if it werent for all those turnovers Mavs shoulda had control of the game. Series moves to Dallas and they have all the momentum.
Christianity EtcRe: Movies That Have Impacted You Spiritually, Morally Etc . . . by JeSoul(op): 8:24pm On Jun 01, 2011
lagerwhenindoubt:
Jesoul- where were you when everybody saw Schindler's list - twice the hype Titanic got but far better mileage in thrill/drama
Maybe you want to try my all time zonky movies (ones that put you in the zone).
I was busy studying like the good student I am grin

1: 2001 A space odyssey (on VHS) - the catalyst that sparked a rash of provoking thoughts in my young mind way back
VHS? kai! grin Even if I get it, I no get tape player at home anymore. lol.

2: Butterfly effect - If you dig chaos theory
Seen and liked it. Though didn't take away too too much from it. He sacrificed in the end for the girl's happiness/success/abuse - that was nice. Chaos theory - pls break that down a bit for me.

3: One flew over the cuckoo's nest - Jack Nicholson gave a stellar performance only the insane will appreciate
I'll tell you right now, I cannot stand Jack Nicholson. I have to be bribed and tied in front of the tv to watch anything with him in it. That said, The Departed was an incredible movie.

4: Full metal jacket - and I almost missed it cos it was a war movie
5: Apocalypse now!! - If you never saw this movie - you never saw it
6: Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind - A thought-provoking romance movie
7: The shining - Nicholson truly has a touch of insanity
Sorry  sad haven't seen any of the above. And if I recall proper, Eternal Sunshine got lame reviews, accused of being a pretentious Oscar wannabe. Care to share what touched you about the movie?

They don't make them like they use to, the last movie i thought tried was Inception
Haha NL review: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-262653.1664.html#msg6585869
Mine: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-262653.1696.html#msg6589600
Christianity EtcRe: Be Enlightened By The Movie "avatar", Or You Are Spiritually Dead. by JeSoul(f): 8:13pm On Jun 01, 2011
^ I don't want to derail oga DS's thread. Come and meet me here . . . https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-680655.0.html
Christianity EtcMovies That Have Impacted You Spiritually, Morally Etc . . . by JeSoul(op): 8:13pm On Jun 01, 2011
Spun-off from DS's Avatar thread. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-680068.0.html#msg8435735
Title speaks for itself. Here's the intersection of 2 things I love - movies and religion. List some[b] life-changing movies [/b] that have had a strong impact on your life, your belief system, your moral construct, your ethics, your approach to issues, your religion etc etc .
Christianity EtcRe: Be Enlightened By The Movie "avatar", Or You Are Spiritually Dead. by JeSoul(f): 8:03pm On Jun 01, 2011
dare2think:
Crash. ---Racism/discrimination
Men, I watched 5mins few yrs ago and turned it off. I'm still not sure why lol.

Saving private ryan----Sacrifice
Nice one. Forces one to look inward and examine if you posess such a compelling sense of love and devotion and loyalty to anyone/anything that would make you sacrifice your own life.

Coloured Girls-----Women empowerment/ black women issues
Atwone Fisher----Child abuse
Haven't seen these two yet. Precious (child abuse) readily comes to mind. Not that one is naive as to the crazy terrible things that go on in this world but gosh, that movie is just plain disturbing.
HealthRe: World Health Organization Calls Cell Phone Use “Possibly Carcinogenic” To Humans by JeSoul(f): 7:46pm On Jun 01, 2011
. . . and the very simple solution to drastically reduce this possiblity is to simply use an ear-piece. This way the radiation from the phone is not in direct proximity to your face, and thereby the exposure is greatly reduced.

https://www.ec-promos.com/usimg/57/77us1/hand-free-cell-phone-ear-piece-661.jpg
Christianity EtcRe: Be Enlightened By The Movie "avatar", Or You Are Spiritually Dead. by JeSoul(f): 7:36pm On Jun 01, 2011
dare2think:
By the way, since we are on the movie thinghy, Jesoul, have you see schindler's list ?

That movie made very deep impact to my conciousness. Truly deep. I inclined towards a more humanistic approach to life rather than a theological pathway, which always seem contradictory if we are to be honest.

Deepsight and Jesoul,

Have you seen the movie, if so what are your assessments?
Have heard of it but haven't seen it. I'm always intrigued to hear of movies that move ppl like that . . . I will put it on my list. Any other movies that have impacted like that?
Christianity EtcRe: Be Enlightened By The Movie "avatar", Or You Are Spiritually Dead. by JeSoul(f): 7:17pm On Jun 01, 2011
Nice topic DS. I've been wanting to create a thread that highlights movies that have spiritual lessons in them.
dare2think:
@deep sight

I fully understand the political connotations and historical resemblance.

But what similarities has got with spiritual enhancement if I may ask?
pls indulge me.
http://www.spiritualityandpractice.com/films/films.php?id=19534

. . .

Immerse Yourself in the Web of Life

Make no mistake about it, Avatar is a deeply spiritual movie. While giving us a natural world of beauty, it also forces us to deal with the shadow side of life. It vividly depicts and condemns the blindness, selfishness, and destructiveness of the American path of warfare, violence, and use of technology to destroy the Earth and others considered to be subhuman or "collateral damage." Cameron peppers the storyline with references to recent U.S. imperialism, from the shock-and-awe campaigns of the Iraq war, to the use of daisy cutter bombs to blow away entire landscapes. The character of Quaritch stands in for the cowboy mentality of some military and corporate leaders who will do anything to get control of the lands and resources necessary for their profit-making and survival.

Contrasted with those who believe in domination over other civilizations, just wars, and occupation to maintain control over foreign lands are the indigenous people and their ancient ways that reverence rather than try to master nature. Cameron is to be commended for presenting their life-affirming integration into the larger web of life as an alternative to the narrow perspective of the Western world. His story celebrates diversity and other ways of knowing. The "People," like other tribal cultures, value harmony, simplicity, community, the spirit in nature, the sacred feminine, and much more.

Cameron gives the People an Earth-based cosmology that is totally in sync with contemporary spirituality movements: reverence for Gaia (earth) as a living being and the Oneness movement that celebrates the interconnection of all beings. Through his sympathetic portrait of the scientists, he even mirrors the current-day marriage of science and religion that has been catalyzed by discoveries in quantum physics and energy medicine.

There are many "teachable moments" in Avatar. We hope with the following list of the spiritual aspects of the Na'vi way of life to open the door to further thought and discussion. The French existentialists envisioned life as a project. That's what it is, and we are all trying to put together a sacred, creative, and meaningful way of being in the world.

Spiritual Lessons from the Na'vi

1. Seeds, trees, animals, insects, water, leaves are all part of the web of life. Everything is alive and conscious and interconnected.

2. It may be necessary to kill for food. A clean kill involves a respect and a ritual for any animal that gives itself to you for food and other uses.

3. Even vicious and seemingly violent animals have the right to protect their turf and participate in the dance of life.

4. Having a good heart and being fearless are part of being a warrior.

5. Signs are all around us in nature and in our own experiences: they are meant to be read and interpreted.

6. Using the power within us is the way of the sacred feminine.

7. A greeting is an act of engagement with another. Open and active presence is conveyed by the words "I see you."

8. It is important to listen to the voices of the ancestors.

9. Everyone is born twice: once at birth and once again when he or she earns a place within the community.

10. Energy is pulsating in and through all forms of life.

11. Mother Earth doesn't take sides; she protects only the balance of life.

12. Healing is an act of the community calling upon the divine.

13. Everyone needs to train in attunement to the spirit in nature.

14. The magical flights of the shaman invoke spirit helpers.

15. The world is a collaborative work in progress in which each individual in the tribe has something to contribute to the whole.
SportsRe: Tennis: Roland Garros 2011 (where Are All These Yeye Tennis Fans Self) by JeSoul(op): 6:31pm On Jun 01, 2011
Kai! Soderling didn't even put up a fight angry he no chop this morning? abi he had a fight with his wifey or girlfriend? men that was a weak performance. Congrats to Nadal for playing probably his best game thus far . . . I guess I will have to count on the usual suspects of FedEx and Joker to take you out cool
SportsRe: Tennis: Roland Garros 2011 (where Are All These Yeye Tennis Fans Self) by JeSoul(op): 4:22pm On Jun 01, 2011
dominique:
^^^ i'm afraid female tennis just don't do it for me. They're never consistent-hot today, cold tomorrow. Rankings change virtually every month, its so hard to keep up. Francesca S can as well win it again.
*Nodding* true. I like the way Sharapova is looking so far in the tournament. I remember when she thrashed Serena at Wimbledon to take her first slam so young. So much fire and promise that she hasn't lived up to. If only she'll concentrate on tennis and stop messing around . . .
SportsRe: Tennis: Roland Garros 2011 (where Are All These Yeye Tennis Fans Self) by JeSoul(op): 4:20pm On Jun 01, 2011
livin:
@ Jesoul

Abeg do your charm well well.
I have a feelin if Nadal loses, my feddy will be more motivated to bring novak back to earth.
I'm trying oh my dear  grin

iice:
[color=#9900ff]Lmao. Can't argue with Soderling since i like the guy. But we wicked ooo.[/color]
Lol. Wicked is the new nice now  cool

[color=#9900ff] Lol. JeSoul (1) tongue  [/color]
Oh my! This is the best quote ever attached to my on NL  grin  grin  grin  grin grin grin If only . . . lol.
SportsRe: NBA Season 2010/11 by JeSoul(f): 4:17pm On Jun 01, 2011
[quote author=A-40 link=topic=344420.msg8428329#msg8428329 date=1306862241]No be only way na wey-Rey! How do u mean on their way to a championship when they where pounded constantly by the Celtics, Pistons, Jazz and Spurs not once did they make the NBA Finals. I think people under estimate the importance of coaches or do you know how difficult it is to retain focus after winning a title ask urself why only Phil Jackson led teams have retained their titles in over 2 decades! This he has done on at least 4 occasions
As for your husband after u don bribe am with bottom power him get no choice but to over-agree[/quote]Haha this boy you're not well at all at all grin lol. Make we forget old story jor and concentrate on ur mavs . . .

wetin happen now? I fell asleep end of 3Q and thought you guys were on ur way to a game 1 victory. I told you and Dayo to fast & pray over the weekend, una no hear me. And I hear Dirk has an injured finger . . . hmm, not sounding good.

doyin13:
The Finals confuse una sotay una turn am to vote of confidence on Philo Jacko. grin

No worries, Doyindamus is here, now where is my crystal b. . . crysta . . . ohhhhh. . . .where this thing dey na.

Y i dey do okpolosa stunts sef. . . .I no need no crystal ball.

THERE IS NO WAY ANY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE AS CONSTITUTED AT PRESENT CAN BEAT THE HEAT IN A SEVEN GAME SERIES. FIAM
cool cool cool cool cool cool
Well look who crawled out of the woodwork . . . lol. Oga long time. How body now? still causing trouble all over the place abi? smiley
GamingRe: L.a Noire: How Is The Gameplay So Far? by JeSoul(f): 1:44pm On Jun 01, 2011
Nice thread! I was also thinking of getting the game too. Interesting reviews . . . so its not a ton of action like GTA? that might not work for me. Also if its relatively short as well . . . I think I'll just wait till its a bit older and less expensive.

Bawss1:
Nah. I always seem to lose interest with all those seemingly random missions within sandbox games. I like my missions clear cut and linear. This preference automatically excludes me from playing all the GTA games and the other Rockstar big release; Red Dead Redemption.
lol. I am the complete opposite of you.
Christianity EtcRe: Woman Delivers 8 Babies In One Year by JeSoul(f): 6:54pm On May 31, 2011
thehomer:
This story is highly suspicious and I hope that this woman and her husband are investigated.

I sincerely hope that the relevant DNA tests or other relevant tests are done to find out whose children this woman has taken possession of.
+1000.
TravelRe: How Good Is Arik Airline? by JeSoul(f): 6:53pm On May 31, 2011
I've lost track of how many anti-arik, incredibly negative review threads have been opened in this section. Poster, enjoy to your hearts content:

http://www.google.com.ng/cse?cx=partner-pub-6465801557104924%3Abko28ysgdng&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Arik+airlines&siteurl=www.nairaland.com%2Fnigeria%2Ftopic-678785.0.html
SportsRe: NBA Season 2010/11 by JeSoul(f): 5:07pm On May 31, 2011
[quote author=A-40 link=topic=344420.msg8407174#msg8407174 date=1306536214]@Jesoul
You are a Celtic fan which means when it comes to the Bulls and especially the Lakers expecting u to be objective is like expecting Gadaffi to snatch Michelle From Barack[/quote]Haha!  grin you have forgotten that I am married to a Lakers fan grin even he self agrees more than me that Jackson is over___.

u have not told me why M.J,Shaq and Kobe didn't win anything before he came to coach them abi the other teams he conquered didn't have great players Abi? As for the article on webspace what does it matter it was probably written by ya acolytes Maybe a buncha Celts
Chic2pimp is on The fence and doesn't know what to think! He is the greatest no he is one of the greatest. My nephew will win titles with those players No other coach can match his success with those players all in 1 post! Make up your mind gee!
Oh common, they were well on their way to championships - with or without Jackson. How many legends won rings in their first five yrs in the league? it takes time to develop. Abeg leave Chic alone jor  grin the boy is talking correct.

On to the finals! May the best team win! and I'm with Chiogo, looks like we shall for the first time ever root for a western conf team.
SportsRe: Tennis: Roland Garros 2011 (where Are All These Yeye Tennis Fans Self) by JeSoul(op): 4:07pm On May 31, 2011
iice:
[color=#9900ff]Exacto. Not that i ever was into the women's side. Only watch it for the Williams.[/color]
Honestly. I wish I had stuck with playing tennis thru high schl grin I know I can give all these 'ovas' a run for their money . . .
Foreign AffairsRe: "obama Naive, No Going Back To 1967" Netanyahu by JeSoul(f): 4:01pm On May 31, 2011
Ikomi:
In one sentence define for us what you mean by a realistic end.
Unity a la Barney & friends style is the idealistic/unrealistic end. Co-existence (without constant threats of war & annihilation) is the realitistic end.

You sef, I greeted you earlier and you didn't answer me, na so you vex for Tayo reach? lol
SportsRe: Tennis: Roland Garros 2011 (where Are All These Yeye Tennis Fans Self) by JeSoul(op): 3:53pm On May 31, 2011
iice:
[color=#9900ff]Weird thread hasn't reached like 6 pages already.[/color]
. . . yeye fans now. Too busy with Champions league and Presidential inauguration cheesy

I'm putting money on Soderling sending Nadal to the Charles de gaulle airport early. He is the only player to have ever defeated Nadal at the French open . . . Soddy darling, please do it again grin
Foreign AffairsRe: "obama Naive, No Going Back To 1967" Netanyahu by JeSoul(f): 3:25pm On May 31, 2011
violent:
Obama is being naive and extremely fóolish by suggesting that Israel should turn the clock back into time amid the painful sacrifices made. . .bullshyt!!!

The surrounding countries have stated their intention to eliminate the state of Isreal. In 1967 they launch a premeditated & unprovoked attack by multiple countries on multiple fronts against Isreal to try & wipe them out. Isreal kicks their asses and then keeps much of the land they secured BECAUSE OF THE UPROVOKED ATTACK by these other countires. Now they say thats not fair. KMA. Isreal should have continued the war and taken over the whole region - maybe the could do somthing beside breed dictators and terrorists.

What's funny is, in 1948, the Israelis were willing to live within the boundaries set up by the United Nations -, so you'd think everybody would've been happy with the arrangement -- but the Arab countries surrounding the old Mandate weren't, and immediately fell in upon Israel in 1948, shortly after it declared itself a sovereign nation (Harry Truman, God bless him, almost immediately declared that the U.S. recognized Israel as a sovereign state).

That first war of annihilation, which backfired badly on those Arabs and their Arab Legion, led to the famous saying "Ein breira," or "there is no alternative." That means the Israelis would love to just live in peace, but if given no other choice, which the Arabs almost have never given them, they'll fight.

I'm confused, as well, by what part of "Never Again," the Left just refuses to understand? Netanyahu said it again in his speech to the Congress the other day, reinforcing it even more by saying that "When we say never again, we really mean NEVER AGAIN."

That should tell everybody the lengths to which Israel will go to prevent another Jewish Holocaust. I can't say that I'm not sympathetic with his observation, that's for sure. And all the Palestinians have to do is accept a Jewish state called Israel and their problems would immediately be solved.
The whole crux of the matter, and a song they continue to sing to whomever will listen.
As Negro said, I don't think Obama is naive at all. He is merely an idealist who's read too many utopian books, dreamt too many utopian dreams and discussed too many utopian ideals - while sipping green tea in a buddhist temple in the mountains of the Sichuan province in China. He knows how the world works, but foolishly hopes he can change people with his words, instead of accepting the reality on ground and working within it towards a realistic end.
Foreign AffairsRe: "obama Naive, No Going Back To 1967" Netanyahu by JeSoul(f): 3:09pm On May 31, 2011
Let me respond to better pesin jare . . . Myjoe,
MyJoe:
Well, it was actually a small coalition made up of the Saudi and a few other Arab states, not the Saudis and the Syrians as I said earlier, that came up with the position I alluded to earlier. The Syrians have always told anyone that thrusts a microphone in front their noses that the only problem they have with Israel is the Golan Heights.
Honestly dear, I have very little confidence in most Arab nations. While there are no moral (in the pure sense of the word) nations in the world, there are some that score far far less in that regard. It was just yesterday it was reported the Syrian govt was gunning their own citizens, protesters. I grade a nation by how they treat their own citizens, and Arab/ME countries are notorious offenders of human rights - of their own people self. Egypt showed they are a different breed by how their crisis was handled - Syria, yemen and co show they're not. The intl press was supressed in almost every other place apart from Egypt. There is a fundamental problem that needs to be addressed before any meaningful trust or alliances can be formed. Which is why I give Israel the benefit of the doubt - as far as I know, they don't kill their people and no one is held accountable, shut down the press and haul off opponents to black holes and no one ever sees them again. Have they also done plenty of wrong? hell yes! and a lot of it was done to defend themselves and protect their interests from very hostile neighbors.

On Egypt the current rulers of the country have stated explicitly that they will honour the country’s agreements with Israel, so no threats there. The Muslim Brotherhood says it is not interested in running the country, so no threats from there.
Really Myjoe? when did we start taking the word of the MB?

It’s true a nation is reflected in its leadership, but to what extent do decisions taken by leaders reflect popular sentiments? Whether in democracies or dictatorships, leaders don’t always consider the will on the streets.
To the extent that the people allow it, and do nothing. That is honestly my belief. It is true that the leaders do not consult the masses before making these decisions but at the end of the day, they were either elected or chosen and supported enough to rise to power - that is tacit approval. I don't believe people have a right to complain about leadership if they do nothing to change it. And if the majority is not enough to change it, it means they approve of it. I know things are not always this black and white, but as a general approach, this is my belief.

I have listened to countless people from the USA and other Western countries complain endlessly about the fact their governments give aid to third world countries. They wonder why their government won’t fix their own unemployment, indebtedness and destitution first before giving aid to poor countries. But whatever government comes to power in Washington or London, liberal or conservative, these aids continue. Why? Because the leadership sees things the man on the street doesn’t. They have an understanding of the national interest that eludes the masses. That is why they can take decisions they believe are good for the country, sometimes not minding what the man on the street thinks.
This I agree with 100%. And I said something similar a while back. Which is why I have scarcely criticized Obama foreign policy - especially his handling of Egypt and co.

JeSoul:
Prez and Thameamead,

  As much as I agree with both of you about the sorry state of the dynamics of international politics, I can't help but feel that I think if we were in a position of power, we would see things very differently, and be less cavalier about what we expect to happen. What you're asking of Obama is unrealistic in the world that we live in. A leader has to do what he has to do for the best interest of his country - not his ideals. He cannot risk antagonizing the source of our oil, or attack the Chinese on their human rights violations because they're our bankers right now etc etc. If he were Bono or Nelson Mandela or some other private citizen/activist that would be a different story. Honestly, we have to sometimes put idealism on the backburner and face up with realism.

Realism in international relations theory
Realism in international relations theory is one of the dominant schools of thinking within the international relations discipline. Realism or political realism prioritizes national interest and security over ideology, moral concerns and social reconstructions. This term is often synonymous with power politics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism_in_international_relations_theory
Coming to the Middle East. Those who killed Anwar Sadat may have thought a new government will jettison the agreements with Israel, but what did they get? And now you have another government stating clearly they intend to leave things as they are. The crowds in Egypt and Jordan (not sure of the percentages, though) are opposed to peace with Israel yet successive governments have eagerly kept the position. Why, then, can’t other Arab governments do the same? Ahmadinejad got to power because he had the support of the religious establishment which controls the levers of the Iranian theocratic state. He does not have the support of the majority of the Iranian people. Yes, Iran is a special case, with all those mullahs. It would require a change of the leadership structure of Iran for anything positive to happen – and in spite of Egypt and Tunisia, I doubt that is likely to happen soon.
Honestly, I think the likes of Egypt are a different breed. I think their people think differently and that is reflected in the kind of society they have today. About dinejad, you say he rose because of the religious establishment . . . who makes up the religious establishment? that is not altogether different from the people is it? Perhaps he in particular may not be popular - but I believe his flavor of politics and views certainly are. In any case, what does it matter anyways? he (and anyone else installed into the office) is merely a figurehead taking orders from the Supreme Leader.

Also, I’d really like to state that the problem of intransigence in this matter is not the exclusive property of the Arabs. With the coalition currently ruling Israel – Likud-Yisrael Bitenu! – Obama is wasting his time. You don’t tell a government led by Netanyahu and Liberman to give up one inch of anything. In fact, the likes of Liberman would sooner see the Palestinians driven out of Gaza and the West Bank to make way for Greater Israel. Israel will not accept Obama’s position, not because “it is not the solution” as the “conservative” fellow says up there, but because, like Hamas and co, a section of the Israeli society wants everything.
Ehen now, who be mugu? grin when you're surrounded largely by hounds licking their chops at the prospects of your demise, you berra arm yourself and your leadership with the baddest of badasses to run things (forgive my choice of diction lol).

If the ’67 thing is taken serious, I believe almost all the Arab countries that are friendly with the US can be brought on board to make peace with Israel. Oh, yes, there are other issues. But there always are. And maybe a democratic Middle East will also help, since no two democratic states have ever gone to war against each other. Whatever you may think of him, maybe Bush was smart to want a democratic Middle East!
Lai lai. I wish I shared your optimism, rather, I suspect if the land was given back, they will quickly find something else they want given back. Until they become 'moral' nations, I would not consider making any kind of concessions as I feel they would be wasted on the wrong generation of leadership/people.
Foreign AffairsRe: "obama Naive, No Going Back To 1967" Netanyahu by JeSoul(f): 2:37pm On May 31, 2011
[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=675298.msg8422199#msg8422199 date=1306784290]Now, ethical and moral conscience demands that losses can be graciously endured as a sacrifice for the progress and unity of mankind. An altruistic positioning!

On the other hand, mundane reality teaches us by way of experience and history that any concession made, faithfully in trust, or as a negotiated outlet for survival, must be done so with prudence and forbearance.[/quote]Gbam so hard that in infact just close the thread now lol.

vedaxcool:
Jesoul, no insult intended but i think-just a thought- you should go back to the religion section, as anyone that follows the Israeli-Palestine conflict knows that the Arabs had given the Isreali the Land for peace proposal which simply indicates that unless the Isreali returns land that stole sorry collected with force they will be no peace, for you to indicate that they are insincere is to claim to be in league with the holy ghost in order to read peoples mind, now that in itself is being hypocritical and tantamount to assaulting the sacred value of ruth. What people like you pretend sorry again are ignorant of is that Isreal actually killed, terrorize and forcefully ejected the Palestine out of their land. What makes Isreal a joke is their policy of importing "Jews" from abroad to fill up lands they stole, yet the real owners whom they kicked out they insist must not return back to Palestien now called Isreal.

Again you pretend as if you have survey the opinion of the arabs really think about the peace with Isreal. What i do know people like Netanyahu and the overwhelming majority of Isrealis prefer keeping stolen lands rather than peace. The truth of the matter is that this is only possible because the Isreali nation depends on American funds and fundamentalist christians whom, expect the another world war to start from the ME using the problem, to keep it policy of stealing and massacring the Palestine
The problem with people like you . . . when you encounter a position that is in the slightest of contradiction to yours, you only have one tactic to employ - tell them they don't know anything. So darn predictable you lot are.

Do us both a favor, skip over my posts anytime you see them. We wouldn't want you stooping down and condescending to respond to reasoning that is beneath your self-ascribed intelligence. I would send you back to the religion section, but better yet, go back to your local cleric or anti-isreal website and get your weekly update of 'anti-zionist' talking points so you can regurgitate anytime you see the key word 'Israel'. *shakes the dust off and moves on*
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by JeSoul(op): 2:24pm On May 31, 2011
[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=505782.msg8415993#msg8415993 date=1306693493]^^ Bless you Madame!,

Join me thank God for the arrival of Tonye junior. . . it really looks humbling to be one.
[/quote]Oh my brother! That is fantastic news  cheesy I am so happy for you. That little president is a blessed chap to have oga Tonye as his papa. It will be well with you and all your household by the grace of God almighty. Amen!

  [quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=505782.msg8415993#msg8415993 date=1306693493]I want to ask if a thread can be created for just two persons to contribute only. . .something like a ring for only two IDs to trash issues and others should just be spectators. i.e They can open and read but not be allowed to put in any contribution on the thread?

reply is seriously and urgently needed in emergentia!  wink wink wink wink wink
[/quote]Sorry my reply is late. I've been offline past few days. I cannot restrict a thread to only 2 posters, but I am sure if you state in your title and first post that you don't want general replies from posters, people will respect and heed that. If there are any troublemakers, you know where to find me  wink.
SportsRe: NBA Season 2010/11 by JeSoul(f): 7:39pm On May 27, 2011
Happy Weekend to All of you my friends jare. Bring your A-games for the finals starts Tuesday.

A-40 and Dayo you berra be doing weekend vigil and prayer meetings grin cos Miami is looking like they have been possessed.
SportsRe: NBA Season 2010/11 by JeSoul(f): 7:35pm On May 27, 2011
[quote author=A-40 link=topic=344420.msg8402501#msg8402501 date=1306489206]Aww Jesoul can't hide her bad belle cos Big Phil has led the Lakers to within 1 ring of yall
The question is where Kobe Shaq and MJ win before they came under the tutelage of Jackson abi do u think they would be so revered without rings? It takes more than just talent to win 3 threepeats and a double abi if e easy why Doc Rivers no do am with una big 3? The koko of the matter is they won nada till he came and I bet no other coach woulda been that successful managing those players and their ego tripping

As for him going to coach the Warriors or Pistons well they didn't hire him Abi na him go employ himself? Why you no ask am make he go coach Dodan Warriors? The Lakers and Bulls hired him! He didn't force himself on em neither did he demand for them players! Shuo if ESPN call for u would u dump em 4 Brila FM abi u go quit Daimler-Chrysler go work 4 Nigeria Railway Corporation[/quote]Go siddon jor  grin Chicboy has even answered you for me lol . . . I'm not saying he should reject a good team for a bad one. But simply pointing out he would most certainly not have 11rings if he were coaching Bobcats or Raptors - he is a good coach who got blessed with legendary players. Add the two together and you have what we have. Capish.

 
chic2pimp:
Yes Talent is not enough I am not disputing that. But if you think Phil will be as revered as he currently is without all those talented players he had at his disposal then you are deceiving yourself, . . . . . In chicago he worked with two of the top three players of the Nineties. . . . . . Also in Lala Land he worked with two of the top three payers of the early noughties. Did you really expect him to fail?. . . . . . Also isn't it funny that he won nowt during M.J's brief retirement from the NBA?
Gbam left right and center. Finito. Na wetin I dey argue be that though I've added some suga and spice of my own  grin

Calling him the greatest of all time is subjective however he is certainly one of the greatest of all time.
Agreed 100%.

chic2pimp:
Abeg he is not overrated jare. Whilst I agree with you that even my 3 year old nephew woulda won at least three rings with players he has had at his disposal I have to admit that he did get the best out of those players. Abeg 11 rings no easy to win ooo. Would Popovich have won em'? I have no doubts that he would have. However Gregg like Phil is in top bracket of coaches. I challenge you find any other coach currently in the NBA that woulda done the same even with those great players.
I don't disagree with you jare. Maybe overrated is a loaded word . . . let us settle for over-praised  grin Me sef can win at least 7 rings coaching MJ and Shaq  cool

Oya complete that statement, Zen Master ko, . . . . . . grin grin grin grin grin
lol . . . Chicken Master ni  grin

My argument is not even novel or alone . . . see how many articles pop up on google on the subject.
Foreign AffairsRe: "obama Naive, No Going Back To 1967" Netanyahu by JeSoul(f): 7:57pm On May 26, 2011
MyJoe:
We can't be so sure of that, either. Remember Egypt and Jordan already have diplomatic ties with Israel. Morocco, Algeria and Mauritania are not particularly anti-Israel. Egypt is the most important country in the Arab world, followed, probably, by Saudi Arabia. If these accept Israel with the other countries mentioned, that would leave the likes of Libya and Iran in the minority and those can't really influence nada as far as peace goes. Even they can be brought over - all it would take is a change of leadership.
I like your positivity, but I think you're painting a far more optimistic situation than actually exists. I'm not an expert on Israeli affairs/history, but as of today, of the what 24? members of the Arab League, only 2 of them (Egypt and Jordan as you mentioned) have ties with Israel- that is a very slim and revealing statistic. Though yes Egypt is a powerful ally, that alone does not begin to scratch at the deficit (not to mention the same Egypt is currently struggling, and the Islamists are smelling blood and want to take over and the future of the nation's political dispensation is still in question).

  As for the change in leadership - I'm not so optimistic about that either. I belive a nation is reflected in their leadership. I believe leaders like Dinnerjacket got into power because they have and continue to have support from the majority of their people. I don't think majority of the ME wants to be at peace with Israel. The hate is too deep and ingrained.

  But hey, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first or last time.

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