₦airaland Forum

Coldie:
I have asked this question to almost every igbo restructuring agitator, once u ask them they start beating around the bush...

I ask u this right now what does south east want to restructure u can't still answer.

If you must know the only thing keeping south east in Nigeria is not resources or anything, it's just the fact that we the true Nigerians know other regions are seating back watching u fool around once the east goes west will want to go too.

Apart from that, if not for that reason Nigeria would have let u hv ur BIAFRA

Coldie:
All these restructuring black mail won't work.

Ask those Biafrans shouting and using lack of restructuring as excuse for breakup to tell you what they want to restructure in the south east and watch them go mute

bobogoat91:
I love how my Igbo brothers completely OWNED this thread with superior intellect and composed presentation of facts...otherwise we all know this thread was headed in the usual direction of lies, manipulation and revisionisms by the same idiots who think they are historians.

MaxInDHouse:
You always disappear each time you notice me, but what happens this time around?

Well you asked a question!

It's a CRIME/SIN/EVIL on our part to pray with anyone who is not our member in our first time of meeting. That's why we will rather take our leave if you insist on prayer first!

MaxInDHouse:
Continue dinning and winning with misinformed Churchgoers on the same table of hopelessness and uncertainty.
We will SHOW you FACTS nobody can refute {James 2:18-26} because all eyes can SEE it happening! Matthew 5:13-16
Go ahead and present the evidence of whatever you're saying. Our own is not hidden, all eyes can SEE Jesus' glory in the midst of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Revelations 1:7

MaxInDHouse:
Really pathetic!

The Churchgoers are helpless since they can only read the Bible and start arguing with nothing to show for it!

Ó mà seo!




For your information David's rule was only within the boarders of Israel and even within he still had rebels trying to overthrow him.
But what about Jesus?
Well he's having well over 8,700,000 people in different geographical locations with various skin colour and languages throughout the earth today!

©They have vowed never to raise up weapons against anyone no matter what! Matthew 26:52

©They are zealously preaching and industriously teaching from house to house and door to door! Matthew 10:11-13

©They have LOVE among themselves that even critics often testify to it! John 13:34-34

©They have the same line of thought regarding standard! John 17:17, 20-23

If all these is happening after almost 2,000 years that Jesus walked this earth but you are saying he's just a fictional character i wonder if you can prove the existence of any ruler in human history whose words still takes effect thousands of years in his absence! Act 1:8

sonmvayina:
I have been saying that jesus is just a roman creation. That makes him an idol. Are you not concerned that you are commiting idolatry. A sin that God hates? God has got nothing to do with jesus.

He is just a fictional character...

haekymbahd:
Since Jesus is called the "word of God" how was God able to say this while Jesus was on earth

Mathew 17:5
5 While he was still speaking, behold, a shining cloud [[b]composed of light] overshadowed them, and a voice from the cloud said, This is My Son, My Beloved, with Whom I am [and [c]have always been] delighted. Listen to Him!(A)

Mathew 3:17
17 And behold, a voice from heaven said, This is My Son, My Beloved, in Whom I delight!(C)


Was word part of God from the beginning or a sperate entity on its own... and how did it became flesh is it that God said "Be and it is" and word became flesh Jesus or was it a sperate entity different from the Father at beginning and later became Flesh...

What I mean is that is Jesus one of the numerous "word from God" which means God can speak independent of Jesus or "Word of God" which means God is dependent on Jesus to speak...

MaxInDHouse:
@ highlight
Your argument will ever remain mere argument unless it's taking effect!
Without any positive result your argument is worthless!

shadeyinka:
I don't think I understand you!
Who sent who?

Kelechi121:
The fact is that the refinery and gas plant is in Orlu zone, there are no ifs and buts, fact is fact. Every imolite has a stake in Owerri, we in imo state are not parochial, I have never seen anybody from Orlu complain about Owerri, it is always from someone who doesn’t have a stake in imo state. Now they are spreading misinformation that it is not one town that is developed in imo state, when developing has cut across multiple LGA.

How can u be more afflicted than the affected. We see Owerri as our home as well and Orlu have ruled the state for the longest. Please let’s continue discussion about IMO state without this constant interjection.

MaxInDHouse:
Few Jews in the first century strongly believe he did that's why billions today are shouting his name up and down!

MaxInDHouse:
YES he did!

MaxInDHouse:
The Messiah is Bible's main topic!
So everything you read from Genesis to Revelation is about Jesus Christ of Nazareth, what causes your confusion is he is fulfilling his Messianic role gradually not at one particular time.
For your information the angel who often represent JEHOVAH when leading the Israelites through the wilderness is Jesus.
His birth, ministry, death and resurrection is just parts of his Messianic role, he will later come and destroy all rebellious humans. But before then there must be a global campaign and warning that's why he must serve as a Wonderful Counselor during which time he will prove to be a Mighty God his sacrificial death gave him the right to possess all obedient mankind and replacing Adam to become our Everlasting Father and lastly when he has completed his Messianic role and made PEACE reign throughout the earth he will be crowned as the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6-7

So don't think Jesus has fulfilled all his Messianic role the first time he came to earth.

Today he is gathering obedient mankind together as ONE BIG and HAPPY FAMILY OF PEACE LOVING WORSHIPERS but only the meek ones can grasp this! Psalms 37:9-11 compare to Matthew 5:5

So whether you accept this truth or not God is using Jesus to accomplish so many things, it's either you believe (trust) in him or PERISH! John 3:16

Meanwhile i'll give you a homework, go out there and find an organized people worshiping God in PEACE where Racism or Politics have no influence on them! Revelations 6:3-4

GeneralDae:
Isaiah 53 is about suffering messaiah bearing the sin of the nation isreal. There were two types of servants used interchangeably in Isaiah, Israel and the Israel's messaiah representing Isreal. Isaiah 49v1-6 for example is about a person, so also Isaiah 53.

MaxInDHouse:
Why not quote the Bible book of Luke 4:16-21 compare to Isaiah 61:1-2, if anyone wants to continue arguing afterwards then it's better to leave and allow them fetch followers for themselves.
Isaiah's prophecies said a lot about Jesus of Nazareth which the Jews knew and witnessed the fulfilment in the first century. Isaiah 9:6
The only reason why they rejected and hated him with passion is their selfish nepotistic ambition, they wanted the Messiah to come fight all powerful nations and hand over world dominance to them since the scriptures correlates the Messiah's powerful rule with that of King David and they believe the Messiah will be a hundred times more powerful than David after all David referred to him as Lord {Psalms 110:1} but Jesus came preaching about forgiveness and praying for one's enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} that's why they hated him intensely.
Moreover Jesus arrived when Romans were colonizing the Jews so it's like a slap on their face that their long awaited Messiah now arrived only to start preaching instead of conquering all the nations most especially Rome! Daniel 2:44
That's why the Jewish nation rejected Jesus otherwise they would have been so proud of him if he danced to their tune as they wanted to make him King and support him in fighting their enemies! John 6:15
God bless you and may you have PEACE!

GeneralDae:
The passover story as well as Isaiah 53 points to Jesus. Heck the entire story of isreal points to Jesus.

The idea of original sin was not a teaching of Jesus. Although original sin(in my opinion)is a reasonable doctrine, if you think about it critically.

Jesus also prescribed thesame method for sin as 2nd Chronicle 7v14. Jesus sacrifice for sin on the cross is related to passover deliverance of the isrealites from exile due to sin. More like collective community sin of the nation. It is not human sacrifice to God but rather more like the selfless sacrifice of a General who loves his nation or people.

madegreatbygrace:
“It is FINISHED” resonates deep within me. I choose to believe The Truth. But if you have any light, go ahead and share. You certainly don’t need my permission.

adadike:
that what...

Kobojunkie:
Again, Independent of what is written in the OP's statement, I am aware of the teaching of Jesus Christ as far as His blood and the forgiveness of sins under the New Covenant is concerned.

Remove yourself from all of this and you will see that your assumptions are all you, not me.

Kobojunkie:
We are not saying the same thing. None of what I have said here means what you claim there.

sonmvayina:
The whole idea about jesus christ...

adadike:
aw! My sweet prince

Kobojunkie:
I never stated anything about a belief system. I am not sure that you get that from.

Kobojunkie:
You don't get me at all. I don't know what "sacrifice and grace" is in reference to so I cannot argue for or against what the OP has there as a result of that. All I know is that indeed Jesus Christ declared that His blood was shed for the forgiveness of sins... and that is where my understanding of what is potentially going on here ends.

Kobojunkie:
To read what? Which concept came first? I did explain that in reference to Jesus Christ's dying necessary for the forgiveness of sins, that is in fact the Truth according to Jesus Christ. But as far as some arbitrary reference to "sacrifice" , I am not certain where it comes from or in.

I don't randomly examine doctrines - there are thousands out there. Hence the reason why I need specifics on what the OP is in fact referring to.

Kobojunkie:
1. Why do you keep insisting on mentioning the Romans? Who are the Romans at this time? Nigerian Christians or what?

2. And the Bible references you provided all have to do with Old Covenant teachings, whereas the OP focused on the teachings of Jesus Christ.

I am sure you are trying to help but I think you are instead complicating this one. All I want to know is what the OP keeps referring to in his article. I believe he instead refers to a particular teaching he calls "sacrifice and grace" teaching

Kobojunkie:
Romans? What Romans?
As for the blood of Jesus Christ being shed for the forgiveness of our sins, Jesus Christ Himself said it is so.

I am afraid what you say is GES101 does not seem to appear as clear to me as you think it should. I don't what you mean by sacrifice... are you suggesting that people are in fact sacrificing animals in the name of Jesus Christ today?

Kobojunkie:
You assume I even understand what "Grace and Sacrifice" preaching refers to. So point me in the right direction as far as this "grace and sacrifice" which he speaks of.
In fact, I had originally opened this to read the explanation to the Title " Why Jesus Christ Isn’t A Sacrifice For Sins!"
I am here reading this guy trying to use Jesus Christ's parables to explain what he refers to as "grace and sacrifice" and I am like, why use the parables which were given by Jesus Christ to confuse the already confused.

sonmvayina:
So did God ever accepted or approved a human sacrifice ?