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kevoh:
You are quick to bring out videos

Are you afraid of the evidence ? .

but the moment we ask for live streaming of healing of amputees in a neutral environment provided by a non christian and outside of that your scam Christ Embassy healing school, you start your evading tactics and start quoting from Genesis to Revelation

Can you stop lying ? Kindly quote where you asked me for live streaming healing of amputees?

. So let me start with the links below then, I enjoin would-be readers to take their time to read the threads and judge for themselves, there are long but trust me no dull moment all through.


https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school

https://www.nairaland.com/1995144/breaking-news-joagbajes-miracle-hiv

Sadly, I can not find his fake ebola healing in Tanzania claim thread. It must have been deleted as his claim was more of a danger to Nigeria, just imagine ebola patients from other West African countries evading treatment and rushing down to Nigeria to this guy for healing, what happened in Liberia would have been child's play to what would have happened in Nigeria. Meanwhile take this man's healing claim at the risk of your life. Stick to what ever medical advice your doctor has been giving you or throw your life away at some unprovable claim and become a victim like kenya28 (Just nairaland search "Joagbaje kenya28".

We are dealing with cancer. Don't Derail the thread.

I am also expecting his resident sidekick troll G***s to come and flood this thread with pointless memes to derail the thread.

cc HardMirror

Funny , you're talking about not derailing a thread . But that's ironically your intention here.

otemanuduno:
keep on deceiving yourself not me

Deception? How?

otemanuduno:
Have u gone to Israel?

Few times .

They don't believe in Jesus till date.

¥

Some do . But as a nation not yet.

Don't let them hear from ur mouth that jehovah god does not operate like that again. They are still like before, only 2% of them are Christians.

I just return from isreal 3 weeks ago . It's a mosque that stands where the temple used to be . There's no divine communication . No priest .

Only the christian Jews experience Divine communication .

otemanuduno:
Urim is guesswork, Thummim is perfect words of DOMINO REVERAD, check the DOCTUFOS for more.

You only name your guess work Urim after the bible divine consultation. You have to understand the bible Urim before you can imitate it. Secondly the Urim of the bible is obsolete . God no longer operate by it.

otemanuduno:
Well, at my first encounter with Eartum, he told me how to write prophecy in quote. He explained to me that the prophecies given by the prophets of jehovah are mere Predictions called the urims. He said some of the Predictions will come to pass by the fear expressed by whom it was made against while some will not happen.
Eartum told me to make Urims about football which I did in January 1, 2016. But since nobody knows what urim is, I just had to name my thread 'football prophecies for 2016'

When the first four of it were fulfilled, I began to think that none will fail. Also when I said that Newcastle will lose to Chelsea 1-5(though that one was not totally a urim) and it happened,my level of confidence rose and I thought I won't fail a single one. But toward the end, I began to fail.

Urim is what we see all our so-called Nigerian pastors practising today, except for some few like TB JOSHUA who practised visitation to the valley of the dead to get Predictions. That's why his own case is exceptional.

URIM IS WHAT ALL THOSE BIBLE PEOPLE PRACTISED, THAT'S WHY MANY OF THEIR PROPHECIES NEVER HAPPENED. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO PRACTISE IT WELL SEF. SEE MY OWN URIMS FOR 2016 WHICH I MADE IN JANUARY 1, 2016

Fulfilled (Check page 3)

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fulfilled

source: https://www.nairaland.com/3049592/
uefachampions-league-semi-final-draw-
today#44719369

Source: https://www.nairaland.com/2835815/football-prophecy-2016


More revelation coming later...

Hardmirror, keandre, Hahn, Johnydon22, joagbaje, etc

You're only dealing with guess works . Urim and tumim is a spiritual consultation .

Deuteronomy 33:8
And of Levi he said,
Let thy Thummim and thy Urim be with thy holy one. . .

HardMirror:
Get ready for stories. I know lots of people who claimed to be healed of cancer (all lies) but they keep the lies on in hope of god seeing them as having faith, or while they keep up treatments at hospitals but giving god the glory

I've ministered to a lady and she got cured of cancer of the cervix . But the video is not documented like others but I have a video of live cancer healed .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXM960QtnXQ

realmindz:
I tell u, with the conditions to make heaven, at least one of your loved ones will perish in hell.

There are no conditions . Salvation is a free gift. Just recieve by believing in christ .

how does this make u feel of a loving beautiful father up there?

He's not up there . He's in me.

And ur heavenly reward will be to glorify and praise him till eternity?

We will only be in heaven for 7 years . We will dwell in the new earth for eternity . It's more advanced than your highest technology of today . Can't wait.

Anas09:
Mr HardMirror. Am curious, where you on NL as a Christian before you turned atheist, or you just joined NL or you are under a new Moniker now? I want to know what kind of Christian you were.
You have claimed alot of things, I want to know your past as a Christian.
If you were here as a Christian, I need links to your old threads.

I bet He won't answer you. Someone had said earlier he only used another person identity to mock christian Faith. He was not that man he claimed to be. He can't answer bible questions he claimed to have studied . Q

HardMirror:
THE UGLY REALITY!


Mr. Frank's business keeps suffering massive loses and he may be forced to close the business has bankruptcy seems to be inevitable.
Mr. Frank is a faithful catholic so it's only second nature for him to make his plights known to his Patron saints and supplication to the heavens in hope for divine mercy and a positive turn around from his misfortunes.

After many years and nothing seemed to be changing, Mr. Frank was well on his way into severe clinical depression. Why was God not answering him? "Oh Lord forgive me my sins! Whatever I have done to deserve this, Please forgive Lord. Holy Mother of God, Pray for me, Holy mother of God pray for me, Holy mother of God pray for me! If not for my sake, please for the sake of the my children. I can't feed them well any more! I can't pay their school fees! Father have mercy on me!" These were his daily cries to heaven.

Mr. Olawale, a close friend to Franklin seemed to be going through the same plight, he was not doing well himself, in fact he had been to Mr. Franklin to borrow money several times, but there was something curious about Olawale that Franklin could not really put his fingers on.
Olawale seemed to be so sure about the cause of his problems and he always claims he is effectively dealing with them.
He seemed to be on top of his game.

Just yesterday he confided in Frank on how he successfully killed a cat in his compound. He was so happy and excited as if he just won a lottery.

"So what is so good about killing an harmless cat?" Franklin asked, making Olawale look at him as if an alien just appeared from space.

"What is special about killing a cat? Seems you catholics don't know the reality of spiritual warfare." He grins bitterly while shaking his head expressing the pity he had for Frank's ignorance.
"Cats, wall geckos, lizards, snakes, black birds and many of the likes are animals witches use in monitoring lives and placing yokes on christian homes" he hisses "stay there and be forming ajebota. We are Africans, better don't let them waste you like chicken!"

This and many other admonishment from Olawale and other friends made Franklin begin to think and see sense in all he was told of the possibility of his problems being a spiritual one.

He made up his mind to see the prophet in Olawale's church.

There he was told his mother was behind his predicament.



This is the reality otf the society we live in. One in which Demons, Witches are all too real to us.

Where old women in the village are witches. Where sons fight their innocent mothers because they suspect or where or were told she is a witch.

The real damage believe in demons and witchcraft is causing is destruction of relationships.

People being paranoid and suspecting everyone they don't like as enemies.

In the office,
Husbands accusing wives,

Parents calling their innocent children ogbanje, witch, aje, emere.

Innocent people being killed because they look wretched so they must be witches.


Killing animals we think are demonic.

Pastors slapping innocent girls in the name of casting out witchcraft. And many more worse abuse such as setting innocent children on fire to cast out the demons.

Spending hours praying everyday against imaginary enemies.

Suffering self induced nightmares that are product of your paranoia. Where masquerades are pursuing you.



What is your experience?

FASLE STRORIES LIKE THESE ARE ONLY GOOD FOR NOLLYWOOD HOME VIDEOS

HardMirror:
Take a moment and think deeply.

You believe EVERY human being is going to perish FOREVER, being punished in a Furnace called hell. No escape, no mercy.

YET

Just a small confession to Jesus and just saying you accept this Jesus as your Lord will guarantee eternal bliss.


Now the big question is WHY ARE CRISTIANS BUSY DOING EVERYTHING ELSE BUT NOT PREACHING?

If I believe in Hell, I will not buy anything I don't need to just stay alive and make heaven.

All I will have are 2 sets of cloths and bathroom slippers. A mud hut will do. I don't need cars at all. I don't need to save money.

But look around you what are christians doing? And yet they believe hell is real.

How many of them evangelize everyday. I am not talking of once a week.

How many of them have 5 converts they pray for everyday?

How many of them feed the poor?


How many of them visit the hospitals?


Of what use is a Range rover to a christian. Wait that is even too much. Of what use is a car to christian. Why not give that money to missionary work?
In the Book of Acts of apostles, people were selling EVERYTHING they had and giving the proceeds up for God's work.


What do christians spend their time doing today?

They are gathering worldly things and yet these same people will come online to talk about hell and heaven being real.

They would rather give a car to their pastor who already has 30 cars claiming to be sowing to the ministry. Than selling the car and distributing to those who have not had food to eat.


Now tell me again why these set of people should be taken seriously when they talk about hell or christian love.

What christian love? What sacrifices are they making?

As far as I am concerned. They remain the most heartless religion not Islam, not Hindus, not Shintos, Not scientologists no, Christians take the crown for heartlessness.


Because they are heartless but they want to be praised as most compassionate.

The little good the force themselves to do is all in hope for a reward from their god and not out of love.


If it was out of love we would be seeing christians selling things they don't need EVERYDAY just to help those in need.

Why should Christians live beggarly life because of heaven. Did Christ die for them to suffer?

The Bible declares God gave us all things to enjoy.

HardMirror:
Of cos I do.
Are u saying u are ready to lay hands on this boy and get his eyes back?

Nice ones. That even reminds me . The Admision into the healing school is on in lagos

otemanuduno:
At the bolded, can you as well lie to keep yourself alive?

I don't have to

otemanuduno:
For real you'll do what you say? That's not Christianly na. Did you forget that Jesus was kidnapped and led like a sheep to be slaughtered? Don't you think Jesus wants you to be like him? At least if you die you'll go straight to heaven.

It's still a choice . I am more valuable to God alive than at death . He needs me alive now . So I have to do all I can to keep myself alive just like christ . He escaped many times until he made sure he fulfilled and finish his ministry

HardMirror:
God is telling me that he has instructed u to pray for that boy so I believe

That will be great . Are you saying you believe in God now

HardMirror:
Have you read John chapter 9?

What does it say?

Jesus did not ask for his faith.

Remember there's God part, minister part and recipient part. If the three elements are present It will be a bomb . But this case the man was there for a miracle . And Jesus simply yielded to the father instruction .

John 5:19
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

HardMirror:
Don't do it for me, do it for the boy.

There are 3 sides of responsibility to healing . Firstly God ,The man of God or the reciever . If the reciever is not in a position to have faith , then someone close like parents or loved ones .

The God part . He supply ability as we pray ,he leads and direct how we should minister . he could heal without even our consent .

The minister can either minister by gift or by faith if the gift is not working . But he must have enough faith for the particular case .

The reciever must have faith in the power or someone close to him can take such responsibility .

Now for this case .I don't know the boy . You are the one who knows the boy. Someone has to take responsibility of faith . But you that should have been the Simeone don't even believe .

HardMirror:
Nice story. Fitting for Hollywood.

You're welcome to come and verify it . Even in 2 month or 2 years time . You will see the proof that the 7 year consistent infirmity never show up from the day I prayed for her.

Of cos u will see it a contest instead of helping the boy.

Why not if I'm led to.

I was not expecting anything serious from u anyway. You can't give what u don't have.

Neither would christ whom I follow . We do what' the father say do .

HardMirror:
Bible is only story.

Well that' is foudation. Believe it . It will work for you

Go and heal this boy I am sure all atheist here are with me on this.

Matthew 16:1-4
The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven. -- He answered and said unto them. . .A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

We will believe you.

the bible says you won't . You will call it Pelebo effect or .. Abi it's placebo they call it .

HardMirror:
So what is God telling u about this poor boy now

The boy is not my responsibility. The gospel is my responsibility. If you believe , come and you have a miracle . I don't need to try to convince you by contest . When you need a miracle you will believe .

There's a testimony I'm on to . Now . A girl was brought to me having typhoid . While praying for her . A demon began to talk how he entered her through food (black egg) given to her in a dream by her friend 7years ago . He said they are to Tommment her for 9 years then kill her . She has 2more years to live . He even mentioned the name of the friend who they used as agent . I cast the demon out . She was healed .

Now listen . She confirmed she had Ben sick for 7 years . I mentioned to her about the black egg . She was shocked . I mentioned to her the name of the friend , she was shocked as though I'm one special prophet . But I captured the ministration on iPad . (Someone helped record ). I then gave her the video to watch . She was in tears . She confirmed everything . She's healed .

The challenge now is that the parent don't want her to attend CEC . They were Muslim then became cac but to commited . The girl was beaten by the dad . I told her to keep coming but I sent two elderly people to the parents to allow her come to church but give me one month . If this girl fall sick within one month she can stop coming to church . They agreed we are counting . But i am lead to stand my ground for such . They knew how much they spent for 7 years . If she allow me I will post the videos . And I believe If theparents see that it's true by the end of the month they will come and testify . And I will document it .

HardMirror:
You have several videos of heals to prove they are real.
I have several videos to prove spiderman is real.

You know you cant prove spider man is real. But I can prove miracles are real .

You mean videos produced to deceive the unsuspecting public.
Was your fake HIV healing not on video too? When investigated by a neutral person was the scam not exposed?

The guy I prayed for in the video recieved healing .

Go and pray for this poor boy who has no eyes no thanks to wicked men who removed them. Then see how all atheist around the world will quiver. We still have atheists and other religions because all christianity has to offer are lies.

We have more than enough video evidence of the power of God . Umbelief is a demonic desease . Those who don't believe . Even if the boy receive a miracle they will claim he was not really blind. Even in the bible .

Luke 16:30-31
"He said, 'No, father Abraham, but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' "He said to him, 'If they don't listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded if one rises from the dead.'"

If God heals this boy, before the week runs out nigeria will be 90% christians, but for where? The scammers will never go near a real life situation.

It's not true. Even when Jesus healed a man blind from birth whom they all knew . They still Attacked the parents doubting if he was really blind .

By the time the parents proved he was healed by christ they still didn't believe in him they give the glory to God Jesus is a sinner .

malvisguy212:
in 2001, during the religion crisis in kaduna, the muslims attack a christian man with bible on his hand, they command him to renounce his faith, but he refuse. Because the muslims people know him as a peaceful man, so they command him to throw away his bible and run, still the man refuse, one of the muslim cut him with knife, till he died. If you live in kaduna during the religion crisis, I tell you the truth, you will not open this thread. It is by God grace am alive today. If you think am lying, ask anyone who has stay in kaduna, ask him , what happen in riggasa.

Awsome . The world is full of many such testimonies

HardMirror:
Of cos u are not lying. Christians are ready to die for their faith, same with muslims, same with Jews, same with hindus.

Read and comprehend, I never said they will deny their faith. That is not what this thread is about. It is about choosing to trust God to protect u from a physical means of death or a spiritual means of death. Hope u understand now.

Don't speak for Christians . Some chose to be delivered some chose to die some chose resurrection .

Hebrews 11:35
And some women, through faith, received their loved ones back again from death. But others trusted God and were beaten to death, preferring to die rather than turn from God and be free--trusting that they would rise to a better life afterwards.

HardMirror:

I swear I dey gbadun your answers.
Anyone with common sense (I mean basic sense) would read thru this thread and would see your tactics.

All you are doing is evading direct answers, cos it would expose you.

Nothing to expose . God and miracles are real. Your questions were not applicable to me. Supposing I ask you what would you prefer to steal . Choose between bread and chin chin. I believe it will be childish question for you. You're not a thief to start with .

How is our HIV man ur prayed for? Is God still researching how to cure HIV? *winks*

I have several documented videos of healing . That particular case was explained . Don't derail your thread

HardMirror:
So you must think you are greater than Jesus right
Have u forgotten jesus went to meet the paralysed man at the pool of bethsiada.

Yes you're right but we don't just lay hand at random. God has to speak . Several folk were at the pool ,Jesus only healed one and left the place .

What of the man in JOHN 9:1-12? Did he ask to be healed before jesus restored his eyes?
Your tricks are obvious for all to see.

As I said above he was lead. God leads . He shows you then you do.

John 5:19
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

HardMirror:
So joagbaje imagine bokoharam kidnaps you tomorrow. which one will u choose? Will u choose to be shot in the head or that the ask Allah to strike u dead?

I can't be kidnapped na. If they do I will cast the demon out of them and lead them to christ.

HardMirror:
Lol
Ok I am childish, happy now?

Didn't say You're childish . But The story

Now take up this challenge below

If you believe ,Bring the boy. Jesus wasn't looking for amputees . They brought them because they believe in him .

HardMirror:
As old and educated as you are simple comprehension is still a big problem for you.

Ok let me explain to u the way I will explain to my kid cousins.

Please pay attention.

My analogy above gives the christian an option of taking a bullet in the head or accepting that a curse of death be placed on him.

It has nothing to do with denouncing the faith.

This analogy is to test if the christian believes prayers can influence physical things.

A christian would prefer the curse of death to taking a bullet, because he knows the bullet will surely kill but also knows that the curse of death is ambiguous just as his believe in God. So it is better to take the curse of death knowing it aint gonna work prayer or not.



I demand that you show me where I said the christian would deny his faith.

You are the childish fellow here, grow up

The story is still childish . Which armed robber will be playing religious ludo while on operation . Do you watch cartoons a lot ? Secondly You can only speak for yourself . You can't speak for us Christ is real to us .

HardMirror:
Why do you think Christian leaders who claim to be miracle channels avoid visiting people in critical situations out side the church?

We have Several testimonies either on the road ,in the hospitals in houses the name of christ work everywhere . We have more than enough videos on YouTube .

How many times have you heard that oyedepo or tb joshua or adeboye visited an hospital and people got healed and the hospital emptied?

Jesus neither went to hospitals . We go to where we are led . According to levels of faith besides We don't preach miracles . We preach Jesus and signs follow.

Real life is different from a crusade where everything is conditioned and controlled to fool people and even people are willing to voluntarily claim to be healed just to please the pastor or in hope that they would later get the real healing be claiming it by faith and testifying even though they know they are not healed

In osogbo there is a white American man who runs a auto diagnostic centre . But was always drunk. He never was into church . I shared the gospel with him . He got saved . He had a heart and lung problem . After prayer ,he got healed . He could breath in properly . But he still had drinking problem . He had been drinking drunk from child . I ministers to him ,the demons spoke out . And we're cast out. He no longer drinks . Smell of drink make him feel like vomiting . That's a real life situation.

NONE. Not even if you pour all the anointing oil on yourself.

There are many proves that christians in particular don't trust the prayers they make even though they would defend their belief with a lot of noise (and violence).

NO believer will choose a gun shot to the head. NONE. Not even if you pour all the anointing oil on yourself.
Somehow, your subconscious knows your prayers can never protect you from certain death.
You know your brains would be splattered on the floor once the trigger is pulled.

Your story in childish . The bible is full of evidence of people who died for their faith . Even in our time several will rather die than deny their lord like the video below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF6jDlPCEsU



So don't try to justify your own guilt with the idea of "WE ARE ALL THESAME . . Is not every one who will chicken out of faith like you.

HardMirror:
OR

THEY SHOULD COMMAND ESU to strike you all dead using the charms they came in with.WHICH WILL YOU CHOOSE and WHY?

We all know the obvious Answer.NO believer will choose a gun shot to the head.

So you believe in the supernatural ? But it's sad it's easy for you to believe in the potency of juju than your creator which you chose to deny

Do you have their audios MP3 or videos MP4