₦airaland Forum

davien:
joagbaje, hardmirror isn't the only deconverted preacher in nairaland,and he'll certainly not be the last... he's just a single part of an ongoing process that is happening all over the world,the escape of religious dogma for skepticism.

Countless accounts of ex-preachers are dotted around the internet(here's one http://clergyproject.org/ )

Your god-beliefs have been rejected by many since its inception,instead of threatening and wailing all over the place, why not find out why too with a honest and unbiased mind to reveal the truth?

menxer:
So we should not hold God responsible for our blessings, since it's our responsibility?

If we don't hold God responsible, why give credit and praise to him for the good experiences we enjoy in life?

MisterGrace:
Ok! whats now the essence of choosing a pastor to listen to if one can not deduce the sick ones from the healthy ones? or we should continue with this trial and error thing? or we should stop going to church and focus on Christ alone?

MisterGrace:
So, you mean it is ok to stop going to church and worship God on your own right?

MisterGrace:
Ok! whats now the essence of choosing a pastor to listen to if one can not deduce the sick ones from the healthy ones? or we should continue with this trial and error thing? or we should stop going to church and focus on Christ alone?

Topgainer:
" I guess she is in charge of Lagos Zone while her husband is 10 years away in South Africa

" Is a word play and made in reference to screen cover of prolonged separation of husbands from wives adopted by your man of God, when the probing of his family issues first surfaced. Get a dictionary to look up some words especially guess

Her marital status in none of my concern, she might as well be among the initiate single ladies that inhabit the white House in Anita's absence
my concern here is the topic

As for lies. Christ Embassy remains the HQ of lies, I wish it were not so even your claims to miracles right from the HQ down are highly queried. False life and people packaging themselves into what they are not is a very common phenomenon among you guys. Why should a poor dude borrow money to buy an apple phone and a Samsung Pad to feel among and create an impression that he is rich.

Is it not in Christ Embassy that a Sheraton member of Staff, captivated and enchanted by Pastor Chris performance, stole money from his employers and donated the same for the spread of the 'gospel'. He also got a letter of recommendation from none other than the Spiritual Giant himself
The story continues like that for some many others ruined by the charm of Christ Embassy.
It is always rumour

Stevebamdex:
From the earth you think? Watch it again but this time watch it slowly..

frank317:
for u to think atheist believe God exist, u must be a fake pastor...

your holy spirit really failed this time.

Topgainer:
you people response is always predictable and robotic
That female Pastor is a marketing executive and has no shame. I guess she is in charge of Lagos Zone while her husband is 10 years away in South Africa.

I couldn't bear to be part of Christ Embassy, the permissiveness in there smells really rotten amidst the wealth inspired neatness of the organization.

Image123:
What's the purpose of a prophet telling you your phone number and date of birth, marriage etc, and not telling you of your dire need of the Saviour Jesus Christ. And of the need for you to repent and come out of your sins, into full salvation and dedication to your Creator. Most of them are just out to mesmerise you and milk you dry, so that you worship them and work for them with all your might, soul and strength.

elveco:
Ofcourse the Grace nd power of d Lord can do al tins bt I doubt is a true Prophet wil ve business wit ur fone no nd oda trivials ... som of dose wholves put dis tins forth to influence their victims nd gain control over them.
But dont 4get, wht u seek is wht u find.
2Thes. 2:7-12

HardMirror:
Trying to hold religion to a principle is like trying to catch an eel with bare hands. There is always a slip through.

They say God heals, bring a deformed person, next they'll tell u God is not a magician.

They say God is Love and his love is more than that of a mother to a child. Yet same God allows children starve to death while it is claimed he is the one blessing a pastor with more G-wagons, range rovers, Mercedes SLS and the likes. They will tell you God knows best.

At the end it is just like trying to fetch water with a basket.

People die in accidents, even some FUTA students going for a church program perished about a week ago. Which should we believe? Does God protect His own or not?

frank317:
Sorry if I sounded insultive....
But how can u, an ordained man of God, think most atheists actually believe in God but chose to deny him out grievance or personal reason.
Is this out of holy spirit inspiration or the normal Christian make believe stories. that's not why I am an atheist.
It's false man... should I be correcting u? A man of God? Thats questionable.

HardMirror:
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Now you would wonder why I am posting this in the religion section

Unfortunately I had a contract in osogbo I was yet to complete.

ceo247frolic:
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Sources at Pastor Anita's camp hinted that the on-going rumour was a desperate PR stunt initiated by Pastor Chris' sympathizers aimed at driving traffic to its crusade tagged Total Experience which kicks off at TBS, Lagos tomorrow, May 27.

frubben:
What about does poor folks dats don't hav access to dis places, wat become of dem

frubben:
Charities to only a selected place of dier own choice right. Dey do charities by building university dat the poor can't attend or secondary dat d poor can't attend. An example of charity is tabitha.

Barney11:
Why would something be wrong with it,dont oyibo get what they call carnival?

AnalyticEngine:
Everything is wrong with it. What fellowship has light with darkness? (According to bible)

PrettyCrystal:
pls stop wasting ur data by typing this epistle. everybody knows this controversial SA pastor. he is the man who ordered his congregation to eat live snakes, remove their clothes in church while matching on them... just google his name and u will see lots of worst things he has done...try and do ur research before saying what u don't know

Tosinex:
he said the pastor is dead.

frubben:
Lemme just go straight to the point

1. Luke 14:12-14
He said also to the man who had invited him,
“When you give a dinner or a banquet, do not
invite your friends or your brothers or your
relatives or rich neighbors, lest they also
invite you in return and you be repaid. But
when you give a feast, invite the poor, the
crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be
blessed, because they cannot repay you. For
you will be repaid at the resurrection of the
just.

2. Luke 12:33-34
Sell your possessions, and give to the needy.
Provide yourselves with moneybags that do
not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens
that does not fail, where no thief approaches
and no moth destroys. For where your
treasure is, there will your heart be also.

3. Isaiah 58:10
If you pour yourself out for the hungry and
satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then shall
your light rise in the darkness and your gloom
be as the noonday.

4. Galatians 2:10 “Only, they asked us to
remember the poor, the very thing I was
eager to do.”

5. Proverbs 19:17
Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the
LORD, and he will repay him for his deed.

Cos they know they will have to lead by example

frosbel2:
Supporting a Pastor assuming that he/she was called by God ( very rare these days,most are called by their 'bellies' ) , should be from freewill offerings

and not mandatory payments in the name of tithes.

Besides it is not compulsory that the pastor should always be supported, sometimes he/she may even need to work by the side to feed and house themselves like Paul.

The admonishment from Paul that " if a man does not work he should not eat " was for all the church and not just the sheep.

There are many preachers who work full time jobs and preach on Sunday,

why can't you do the same ?? Oh , let me see, you prefer easy money and the razzmatazz that comes with it!!

dainformant:
Some pastors have taken delight in manipulating their followers, turning churches into cinemas where people are continually entertained. The controversial pastor Penuel Mnguni, leader of the End Times Disciples Ministries in Pretoria, South Africa who is known for his weird spiritual antics - is back again with another "blockbuster"..

This time he reportedly commanded a woman to turn into a horse as he rode on her back comfortably in front of the congregation during service. What a drama!

Source; http://www.nationalhelm.net/2016/05/controversial-pastor-turns-church.html

nwapastor:
I wish henceforth you'll no longer disobey God and fornicate and you'll see how special you'll be at least to God

analice107:
My point is, you didn't need to come here to publish it. It's not an achievement. That's what is expected of us, if you do it you have not done any thing special. It's like going to church on Sunday, then come here and say, praise God, I went to Church on Sunday.
That we disobey God and fornicate doesn't make those who doesn't special.