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Shegzdave:
So una don do meeting with Arteta to stop using My Boy as the Penalty taker abi
Cc Bluraydick Sod09 Jodera
I know Roland not fit follow una

My own be say make anybody wan play am, make him sure say him score am.

Nothing pisses me off than missing a decisive penalty

Shegzdave:
Read Saudi are looking to sign him, that’s why Arteta is trying tactics that will suit the team when he’s gone

It's rumor and media.

Partey doesn't want to leave arsenal and Arsenal doesn't want to sell.

Media just using him as transfer scapegoat to force the trio of Rice Odegaard Havertz Midfield down our throat.

It's annoying

sod09:
This man is becoming mad e no just know
Tomorrow now J.odera will tell us partey is a right back

Lol, I will never say this.

Nothing deh pain me seeing Midfielders play defence, esp when that said Midfielder is arguably my best Midfielder.

Make I no lie, even with the two wins, this season dey vex me

So na so a whole Gabriel Maghalaes take dey chop bench??

My goodness!!!

afrodoc2:
Ben White was an academy player that was sold for 50m.

I have said it before that Yahoo Boys need to apply to Brighton for apprenticeship. Their business model is looking more like Yahoo Plus.

Jeez! Ben White is even Academic. I thought he was bought sef. Omorr, these guys good sha

Na real yahoo! Benfica and Ajax needs to learn from them

iamoyindamola:
I must stream both matches aje

E so sure me to watch both

MRTA7:
Of course we're signing Jonny Evans permanently.

When I saw that initial loan, I once asked, are you sure they won't make this thing permanent las las?

ObaIgwe1:
£390M🤑 Brighton have without doubt one of the best recruitment teams in the world. Incredible business from them over the last few seasons👏🏻💷

Caicedo £111m (signed for £4m)
Cucurella £62m (signed for £15m)
MacAllister £55m (signed for £7m)
Bissouma £35m (signed for £15m)
Trossard £27m (signed for £13m)
Sanchez £25m (Academy player)
Burn £13m (signed for £2.5m)
Maupay £12m (signed for £20m)

£76.5M spent £390M received

And they are still strong!

I no dey see Ben White name oo

Na only Maupay give dem loss. I know say that guy no Sabi anything right from when I see am dey chop goals anyhow for Brighton

mostob:
But why Dem go fix our match on Monday night na...I'm about to have a boring weekend now. mtchew

Lol...
Man city vs Newcastle

Man u Vs Tottenham

Both dey today. A football lover no suppose get boring weekend with these matches even though I know it'll hit differently from if arsenal is playing

Spy360:
Think of it in a reverse order.

You based your rating not on the player's ability but on Chelsea's performance last season.
It is easy to shine if you play for Crystal Palace or Southampton.

Now think of this, the managers that went for those former three are the top three in the league- Pep, Arteta and ETH.

I'm never one to judge players based on one season or joining bandwagon to condemn. If you notice me esp in Chelsea thread, I've been very very critical of Havertz right from his first signing in 2020

Moreover, there's a big reason why all three players were greeted with criticism from their new fans. It's not agenda or bad belle. If you watch those three closely during their Chelsea stay, you'll know why.

ChristoBam:
Lol, Chelsea will tag their team last season as one of the worst they've ever had. This is a team that recently won the UCL. What's the crazy thing in finishing 2nd and 3rd?

A team can be good in one season and become totally terrible in another. That's what the likes of SAF and Pep are masters in avoiding. They start gradually clearing out players before the become something else(toxic or past it).

The problem is when I say team, you're thinking of individuals. You're wondering how a team that had Pogba, Ronaldo, Rashford, and co is termed the worst in years. But what I mean is the team as a collective. Cuz that's what matters.

The thing is that if as a collective, a good squad suddenly turn worse, then all the fault should rest with the coach.

Aston Villa and Leicester of last season is a very good example. With Gerrard failing, it seems as if the collective of Aston Villa players were very bad. Look at them individually and you'll know they shouldn't be dragging for relegation but they did until Gerard was swiftly sacked and replaced with an elite coach and you can see how they suddenly look a good fit again.

Contrast that to Rodgers who wasn't sacked on time and a team of Madison, iheanacho, ndidi, vardy and co were relegated. No how an elite coach wouldn't have those people to play good football.

So my point is that a collective group who were once good can't suddenly turn bad all at once, if they did, then the coach needs to go Asap

Kilishihunter:
Dribblers still dey but they are now mostly limited by the tactics of the modern game, reason why you see a catenaccio student being heavily linked to be their next coach

I believe even if tactics limits your dribble frequency, there will still be time where one will need it to evade a defender.

Lemme use Brazil for example, see person like Richarlison or Raphinha, you wan tell me say na tactics make them no dey dribble?

Unlimited22:
The only current person who would also have been a star in that set is Neymar. Na why him career trajectory Dey itch me anytime I remember am.


This dude made Ballon d'or top 10 as a teenager playing in Brazil. Then 2013-16 Neymar was just different gravy. There was one time Messi got injured or so and he just kept on coming clutch.


Now he's is Saudi at 31, hasn't won the UCL in 8 years and probably never will again, never won a ballon d'or, and has had his knees kicked to death in France. Mtchew.

Exactly, only Neymar. The guy was too good!
It's just so unfortunate that one ill-advised decision cost him his career. I think the time you talked about was the 2014/15 season where him and Suarez just deh pieces la Liga with reckless abandon in the absence of Messi
Omorr, those two where different gravy sha

Some of these Brazilians wey I dey see, even to dribble person one on one dey hard dem. Give correct precise pass too na waec.

Omorr, Brazil is no longer Brazil

Spy360:
Chelsea sold Kovacic, Mount and Havertz only to replace them with Caicedo, Lavia and Olise. I don't see any upgrade. Only Caicedo can match those that left.

Any of those 3 you mentioned is better than Havertz and I'll certainly take Olise over Mount.

I don't know much about Lavia but one thing is certain, they definitely improved their Midfield

MorataFC:
...then what now happens, are there no star players in Brazil again? The situation is other teams have measured up to the standard through the modern training facility that is available now, not that they lack star players. Gone are the days when Super Falcon will defeat African opponents 11-0, 8-0, 7-0, why we can't have such a scoreline again, it's just because all other teams have measured up through exposure to modern facilities, not that Super Falcon lack stars players.

I don't know about the super falcons but you see them Brazil set of R9, Dinho and co, in terms of quality, this present Brazilians no reach them

Sometimes, I wonder if some of these Brazilians are truly Brazilians sef. Vini, as good as he is, will turn average in that set.

afrodoc2:
They have used tactics to neutralize team creativity and individual creativity. Players now have more stamina and are more tactically responsible but technical ability and natural flair is being ironed out of the game. Even the robotic Germans of the 80s and 90s had Littbarksi, Hassler, Moller and co. If you combine all the dribbling talent in Germany right now it is not up to the talent in only Littbarksi's body.

True @bolded.

And this In turn reduces the flair of the game and in essence also reduces the excitement the game is suppose to have.

And like you said, even flair players are often ditched for hardworking, system players

You see that dribblers, I can count on one hand good frequent effective flair dribblers on one hand in Europe and e no reach 5

ChristoBam:
1... Firstly, when did we ever look as good as Man City?

2.. Secondly, you're talking as if you're either good or terrible in football. He had a decent team that got worse with players becoming shit and the addition of some characters. The team became something else.

1.. So you didn't see one receipt where Patrick once claimed you guys weren't far behind of Man city? Also, he wasn't the only one who believed so, I remember vividly how that was a topic here with many voices claimed this squad wasn't far behind Man city in terms of talent and that it was just Ole coaching holding them back.

2.. What I'm saying is that a squad who finished 2nd and 3rd in the league can never be termed as the worst squad in recent years. There's a big reason why they once finished in that position(2nd and 3rd). They might have regressed as you said which is valid but you claiming they're the worst squad is just you exaggerating just to make your point weighty.

I mean, let's look at it logically. How possible is it that a clueless coach (Ole) made one of the worst squad in recent years to finish 2nd and 3rd in arguably the most competitive league in the world and also reach the Europa League finals losing out on penalties?

It's two things:

It's either the squad is decent as you claimed and Ole isn't clueless as brandished

Or

The squad is made of good quality and Ole is Clueless.

But what's facts is that both can't be bad

Thazard:
Unpopular opinion;

The quality of football has died down

This is not unpopular na!

As the money in the game increases, the quality really reduced. Moreover, more teams becoming system-based teams contributes largely to it.

Now, there are more boring matches compared to matches say 10-15years ago. Even two big teams produces boring matches presently compared to before. If you no take time, you fit sleep

afrodoc2:
That is why some people here call him Sir Ole nah.

Sir Thief. . Maybe cos he was stealing a living as manager. Club legend though. Put respek on his name. LOL

Na Real Sir Ole him be

Leyqute:
Jod.era you're a terrible human being

Lol, I came in peace oo, I never even knew that Trevor had receipts handy

Na that Maguire own just muzz me make I no lie

Ole suppose get knighthood for here for making people believe say this team almost deh on par with Man city

ChristoBam:
What're you even on about? Ole was in charge of the squad for 3 years. He built the nonsense. Any claim about Ole holding a good team back vanished immediately Rangnick got their and struggled terribly.

Lol, this bolded funny sha.

So, in Other words, Ole was a very good coach that's overperforming with a poor team thus making them even look as good as Man city... Yet he's labelled a bad coach?

Y'all can't have it both ways sha

daveP:
Nelli needs to be called to the Tactic room and shown some clips of Sanchez so he can start doing the LHS kind of goals similar to that. Almost everyone that he faces already anticipate he cutting back to the left foot so they block the right so as to react better to the switch. That's why i like Trossard for such shots. Barely off target.

Chai, Sanchez!! God bless that player.

If only Martinelli go just watch Sanchez and mirror his play cox na him be the closest person to Sanchez. How I wish he can get his.

Saka and Martinelli both scoring from outside 18 will be so sweet ehn. Then add occasional Odegaard own. Haba!!

mostob:
For our tactic to work, Martinelli has to stay high and wide. However, I still expect Martinelli to pop in with those types of goal occasionally but the guy no dey gree look up.

He needs to pop up with it occasionally oo.

See Trossard of last season na, he was just unlucky with his (hits the bar against both Southampton and Brighton, while his Leicester effort was ruled out). At least you can see the efforts and accuracy.

Martinelli own no just get accuracy cha cha!! No be everytime dribbling or space inside the box go work

Roland17:
Anything muscle or ligament related is always long term. He may be back around April/ May 2024, depending on how he rehabs. I'd say we plan for next season with Timber.

It's just so sad and unfortunate. I was really looking forward to his play this season.

Kai

iamoyindamola:
It’s painful
I don’t like such injuries

I just give up hope as I hear say na possible ACL. Omorr!!

Trevor012:
It was here patrick.muf and others told us mctominay was better than rodri and our squad was on par with City. All of a sudden it was the worst squad in United history . Which means Sir Ole must be a genius 😂😂

Receipts! receipts!! receipts!!!
Omorr

And I think there are more monikers that also felt same way too. How they're suddenly painted worst team in the past few years dey surprising sha

I even read Maguire was solid much like Dias. Omorr, shebi no be same Maguire?

iamoyindamola:
Timber injury na about 8 months plus but e no break leg na

Shebi na ACL? Wetin you expect?

It's so unfortunate sha

Trevor012:
The worst united team we have ever seen that finished 2nd and 3rd in consecutive season plus an European final. Worst united team we have ever seen that some of you were adamant Sir Ole should use to challenge city and win the league. Clowns full here I swear 😂😂😂

Lol, this is funny but it's true sha.

I remember how it was claimed it was Ole that's holding this team back and that if if was a better coach, they would have competed with Man city. Suddenly, those squad is termed one of the worst these last few years

BlueRayDick:
Omo, I don't just want to imagine Arsenal with Saka injured

I don't expect to see him in FA or Carling cup until maybe quarter or semi final this season, if not I go cuss Arteta o.

Then get ready to curse Arteta

daveP:
Thank God nobody left from the defense. Imagine Yasu and Tierney had gone, or Partey, that's how this Timber ACL would start another makeshift nonsense or management till January. Glad the urgency of UCL football has made things diff for this. His game will have to change anyway. Slow integration.

But Tomi is still makeshift at left back na

Honestly, I no dey feel Tomi for leftback. The only person who I'm comfortable to play Lb who isn't left footed is Timber and it's so sad he's gone on lengthy injury.

Well, it also seems you've forgotten Zinny (or maybe you intentionally left his name out).

Well, it's back to Zinny and I'm glad. I really miss that boy ball

You see that outside the box Curler/shot Saka scored, that's the thing I'm expecting from Martinelli to be good at. Honestly if they tell me 2yrs ago that Saka will be more proficient than Martinelli in outside the box shots, I would have doubted.

We need Martinelli to be proficient in it too. It's another good way of scoring goals against teams that park the bus especially as we'll be encountering them more this season

Spy360:
I get your point.

The formation was not the problem but the distraction and the lack of speed to make up for lost possession. The moment NF brought in Elanga, that was the time for Arteta to have made adjustments. There was no need to continue to pin NF with 2-0 up.

Again, if Tomiyasu/Timber was where White was Elanga would not have ran all that distance without being caught up. At least to drag him wide instead of allowing him cut inside.

No matter the team, if you place men in the defensive third and outnumber them, they will always succumb. Then after getting the first goal, you allow them to come out and concede more. The only thing that is required is to not lose the possession. That would be almost suicidal. But even if you lose possession make sure you have sprinters as defenders. This will make whoever is countering to have a lot of distance to cover to get to goal.

I believe

Hmmm...
While I understand you, I would love to see how it unfolds sha.

Fingers crossed