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daveP:
Thank God i don zero my mind. If the guy get goals, my mind about him no fit change. He doesn't fit our approach, individually too.


Plus, what is the covenant Arteta has with Chelsea abeg

If you ask me, na who I go ask??

My Thoughts on Yesterday's Game

1. Why do I have this feeling that this formation is to cover up for Havertz off-the-/ball weakness (ie the team would do community and compact pressing since he isn't good defensively) While he focuses on his strength which is the off the ball/late runs into the box where he can sneak in unnoticed. Unfortunately, he didn't do that as he was playing safe football and was really passive all round.

2.. The formation on paper is 433 with Partey at Lb but in the game it seemed more like 3232/2341 with sometimes Martinelli drifting into CF early on before being stationed on the left and we could also see White making Overlapping runs most times leaving only Saliba and Timber as the only CBs
One thing I noticed is that it exposes us especially on the flanks. NF was finding it difficult to beat out first line of press which is highly aggressive but most top teams will beat that, and when they do, I shudder the thought of what will happen with runners in behind.
I just hope Arteta makes adjustment and stick to our default formation that made us dominant last season. This can be like a plan B when we need a goal and we need more bodies forward

3... I don't know if it's me but I noticed that our attacking 3rd play is not fluid especially the Martinelli-Havertz-Rice(and sometimes Timber) combo. They lack this pass-and-go movement and most times they seem to be getting into each other's way. It's no wonder most of our attack are from the right hand side. I just hope they work on it and that Havertz is more daring enough. He's heralded for his late runs, aerial dominance and forward passes but he seemed to be lacking those attributes ystdy. Early days but I hope he improves fast.

4. Trossard needs to start and ESR needs minutes. I just hope Viera is not above the pecking order of ESR sha. It'll be interesting to see if Havertz still starts when Jesus is back and Gabu is fully fit.

Gritting win ystdy, we hope for the better!!
3pts secured
Palace away next

COYG!!

iamoyindamola:
Where you took it from they said epl
I saw it yesterday too

They still might not be wrong. Maybe he played a match(few minutes) with Leeds in EPL before going on loan to Swindon.

If he does then that counts too.

Spy360:
I saw some positives in that formation. The only draw back was Havertz not getting on the ball and releasing Martinelli more on the left. If Trossard was there, the game would have ended 3 or 4-0.

The NF goal was a defensive distraction as Partey and White were out of position and both lacked pace.

I prefer Gabriel on the LCB to Timber, I also prefer Timber on RCB to White.

A back 3 allows you to be dominant and when you are dominant you win.

While there are a lot of positives but I feel the negatives outweighs the positive except if we're playing against low level teams like NF, Luton and the likes where our over quality will shine through against them.

Our defence was some times left exposed only that NF quality (or lack of) couldn't capitalize on it.

Did you know that it was Saliba that gave Saka that assist when no be say na corner kick we play and during that phase the player covering for Saliba was deep into our own half.?

Did you know that on certain situations in the game, it was only Saliba that's the only defender, while others pushed forward? And this happened even while we were winning

Omorr, it is too aggressive and we'll be susceptible to high attacks against top teams if we carry on with that pattern. There's a reason why the game changed hands with just Elanga and Awoniyi introduction. Anybody wey follow Man u then go know say that boy Elanga good with counter and Awoniyi holdup play/counter

Imagine us using that as default formation and setting up like that against Oga pata pata Man u with Bruno and Rashford or against Liverpool frontline and middle wey dey press resistant and good at counter

Na collect we go collect

Shegzdave:
That guy Na clown

Arteta should just delete that formation from his head, when I saw the formation, I shouted

Lol, e good day match end like this, e suppose help am delete that formation.

If to say we go knack them 5-0 the way we knack Wolves last season, na there I for fear.

If we carry this formation meet Liverpool or Man u (with Bruno and Rashford), na 5-0 we go collect from each of them. This him head touching is just so annoying.

E good say forest deal with us when Elanga came on without collecting the 3points

daveP:
Im afraid that i see he is a fave of MA and may start getting minutes than he ought to. Looks like Teta is willing to risk it and reduce the minutes of Trossard for this. Most unlucky fella on pitch today was Rice.


Kai playing full 90mins is hilarious. What is Arteta thinking??

Awoniyi becoming the new Drogba to Arsenal. He must score whenever he plays us. And he's an Arsenal fan again. 😆

Tomiyasu helped that defence today.

800passes and na 2-1 be the final count? Abeg make dey return to 500passes and 4 unreplied goals abeg.

That 65m na wetin go hunt us and limit people like Trossard time. I just wish Trossard was 55m while Havertz was 20m, we for no dey wail about am almost every week laidis.

Omorr, this thing dey pain me. The Kain nonsense wey him dey play and "make ball no spoil for my hand" play dey vex me ehn

Roland17:
This proves that NF are not the competition, otherwise we would have been punished with some of Arteta’s decision today.

That's why I wasn't too content with our first half even with the dominant display.

NF weren't dominating nor had chances but the few times they'll do, I see our defence opened up but fortunately for us, it wasn't capitalized.

Even our creativity of opening up their bus was lacking. We just deh pass left, right, side and back.

I'm just happy the game opened up and took that turn towards the end. Hopefully, Arteta ditches that formation and do what we normally know

Shegzdave:
That guy is funny, he thought we criticize our manager and players ignorantly or because of agenda

I love that Nketiah goal and just hope Timber injury won’t take a long time cause that dude is solid and a baller

Lol, maybe he thought I'll start hailing Arteta because we were leading 2-0 first half. Something wey I don dey notice the cracks even while we were dominating.

Everything involving that Nketiah goal was superb, from Martinelli move to the well-taken shots. Hopefully, Timber injury won't be long but I just hope this would be the last of us seeing this formation

Roland17:
Excellent observation.

Ordinary Elanga wey dem put to stretch our defence on the counter, see as the formation collapse.

Leyqute:
Jodera.

I still see some unfair criticism here and there. Some of you clamored that he be benched for Trossard at some point last season even when he was still scoring goals.

I believe my fellow comrades don help you clarify the stuff

Leyqute:
Lol. I know you’re being sarcastic sha. Or taunting your fellow fans for complaining incessantly about Martinelli.

After Oodegard maybe he’s probably the next guy with the strongest mentality in that side. He’s obsessed with scoring and winning.

Tbh, I'm not sarcastic.
I love his mentality and aggression but sometimes he can be very frustrating.

Saying anybody hates him here is overreaching. I don't think presently there's any player that any of us here hates or have any agenda on

As much as we were very dominant in the first half, I'm still wary about our defence shape being opened up when met with quality opposition if we continue with this pattern.

A good team good on counter and can spot runners might decimate this our defence.

I just hope this Isn't our defacto formation sha

Leyqute:
I still don’t understand why you guys hate on Martinelli. He gets results.

Wrong thread!!

Nobody, I mean, absolutely nobody hates Martinelli here

Trevor012:
Jod.era 1 more.

Lol... Calm down

Spy360:
I saw Partey at RB late last season and many here doubted me. They say necessity is the mother of invention. Arteta fantasised with the possibility of Partey inverting from RB and it worked against Wolves. He wants to try it again instead of giving Tierney a chance.

Wahala for FB wey so sabi invert.

So what was the need of signing Kiwior if he can't deputise Gabu when needed?

Trevor012:
3:0 first half and you will be hailing Arteta as a genius.

Even if we win this match, I won't still be happy with the lineup.

I was never happy with the lineup/formation when we won Wolves 5-0 with same nonsense

Trevor012:
Sell the idiot and end all these charade. Treating Greenwood like he's one kind of generational talent that United cannot do without. Sell the fool to any unfortunate club interested and be done with this nonsense. Greenwood this and Greenwood that everyday.

rooftops:
The same midfield trio most arsenal fans are weary of na him your coach still use for first game of the season. Some managers sha.
We will be there no matter what

E just tire me

Which Kain stupid formation be this?

Why this Man head go just deh touch anyhow?

Person say make him become flexible, but no be like this na. Exactly same thing he did ending of last season that made us flat footed is what he's doing again.

Na wa ooo

BlueAngel444:
lol see wetin levy do na, after here we go for Kane dem tell am make him no fly go anywhere

Lol, you can imagine.

E be like say until I see training pix with new signing with his new teammates before I believe any "here we go"

lordfalcao:
I thought Adam deal is done and medical done.

Why is it collapsing

Even the "here we go" no dey sure again

All these while I thought Adams was a Chelsea player already

Spy360:
That I said they are weaker than last season does not mean they are weak. They lost Gundogan and Mahrez and signed just Kovacic who is not better than any of those two. Even if they sign Paqueta they are still weaker.

Connect this with Arsenal and Man United who have both improved.

As long as Pep Guardiola is there, you can't automatically say they're weaker. That's how people thought they'll be weaker when Silva was sold, and that's how he unleashed Foden. Same thing when Aguero was sold and they didn't sign any striker but Grealish. Pep can easily sign players and even if he doesn't, they're tonnes of quality players he'll harness and EPL go still hear am from him (we all saw how Rico Lewis benched Cancelo last season and there wasn't obvious drop in quality before he eventually switched to his 3142). Even Keke Cole Palmer dey one side

That doesn't in any way means arsenal haven't improved in squad depth.

patrickmuf:
I think they still need to sign a CB and a RB if Klopp persists with the idea of playing Trent as a midfielder.

Trent will always play RB, so I don't think he'll need a new RB. As for CB, I still think they're well stocked there too.

They'll certainly be back to challengers this season. This season will be really interesting!!

BlueRayDick:
So city is signing Paqueta .

Una why I say city is always replacing good aging players with good players players ?

I just dey look people wey dey talk say Man city are weaker dey laff.


Worst still is that na every year most people dey talk this thing

Amigoss:
Let's say it is even 1billion pounds,125,000 budget every year for 8years isn't even outrageous

Leave Andrewbaba

andrewbaba44:
The thing be say e spend and it’s already close to the 1 billion

Klopp is an hypocrite

Nothing concern me whether he's a hypocrite or not, afterall nobody expects a saint in football. He'll never be the first or last player or coach to say one thing and do another. Nobody in football is sef.

I'm just rebuffing the fact that you claimed that "Liverpool have always been spending big, no be today"

There's a reason they were called a Stingy club.

andrewbaba44:
I don’t get where you are heading to

So as a big team you must have spent more than a billion before it’s considered as spending ?

With this Caicedo deal, his total spend will be around £800m+, that's an average of less than £100m per season being spent in a crazy market era

Considering the fact that it was just this season he spent massively, you can't claim that "Liverpool have always been spending, no be today".

odizeey:
After twerking for Caicedo for months, you guys are now saying thank God you didn't sign him.

Dey play. 🤣

Na today you know Chelsea fans?

People who were claiming Caicedo Is the 2nd coming of Kante suddenly felt he's average and that he'll struggle in Liverpool.
After all the praise and encomiums being lavished on Caicedo

E no dey hard most of dem to backtrack lai lai

andrewbaba44:
Lol ,it’s not just Liverpool fans but all fans from all the big boys ,but I am glad everyone is now quiet because na everybody Dey spend 😁

And no be today Liverpool Dey spend big ,Darwin Nunez was close to 100 million

Klopp have spent less than £1bn since his 8-yr stay in Liverpool.(in this hyperactive market)

Show me any big EPL club that have spent less in that time frame?

Android17:
Nobody said this. Trossard's goal was consequential because it helped A.K.A was instrumental, significant etc to Arsenal meeting her objective in the game which was to WIN (not participate in the penalties).

Inconsequential = did not help meet objective
Consequential = helped meet (i.e was important to) objective

Don't be happy when people like OVA200 or some Chelsea fans are supporting you. If anything, you should be depressed. They are usually low IQ warehouse janitors and smellos. I said "some". Sodeeq clearly is fighting hard to be named amongst them. His wish has been granted.

The thing is, this is an argument none of us would want to shift ground on cos our understanding of this matter is toooo different regarding this context reason why I don drop pen for this matter, else we go just dey go on and on and on.

Gracias bro

Spy360:
I will add Holding self to give it weight.

Not that both Balogun and Tomi aren't good, but looking at Arsenal squad now, I will make do more with Barela. With him, Jesus will not need to drop deep too often. Someone like Nketiah will shine.

Some things you guys will need to make peace in this team

1... Jesus always dropping deep no matter who we sign (Spy I'm looking at you)

2.. White to Mostly play RB (oyindamola I'm looking at you)

Y'all are welcome

Spy360:
I will take Barela for both Balogun and Tomi. 👍🏽

Inter will not even accept

Are you serious??

To me, Holding should Go, Na him dey block quality space that maybe you're thinking Tomi is surplus to requirement