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lordfalcao:
doc has always believed in palmer.

Yeah, I know.
Na why I dey hail am

User09:
Only you and his critics think this.

We have had the extensive argument on here sometime back, you can go back and check the thread.

They tried to give the Italy accolade to Verratti, the argument was torn apart, Ditto, Kante.

No need rewriting history.

Lol....
No need for back and forth on this matter sha

User09:
Jorginho's hatred at Chelsea solely started as a result of Sarri and the perception that he was his favorite. Especially when the team was suffering from poor results

Then the inept Frank took over and the less said about him and his history with Jorgiboy, the better

Lol, you think it's only here I get Chelsea info?

Jorginho is not really rated by Chelsea fans whether Nairaland or not.
Even arsenal fans been deh fear him signature.

Him and Kdb are 30+ yrs but you think if Arsenal buy Kdb our fans won't be ecstatic?

That's World class player for you. They're like sunlight, they shine bright. No explanation ought to be needed when assessing them

popizaino:
I am ashamed of you.

So Saka isn't a worldclass. What does he need to do to be called a world class?

Elite level performance.
This is the first time he's nearing 30g/a if I'm not wrong. That's a norm for world class players. And also, deciding big games singlehandedly by himself.

Saka is a top player but personally to me he's not yet World class. Same as Foden.

Spy360:
I never said you were wrong I only said is sounded funny.





A. Win
B. Draw
C. Lose

You meant to say he wanted to win or worst case to draw.

I said he may have wanted to win but he didn't plan to win, he planned for a draw. Hence his defending all game.

He may have wanted to win but he didn't plan to win

You too funny.

So an elite coach will just wish to win, he won't plan for it but hope that goal will just come from sky above abi??.

Keep on turning like barber chair sir

mostob:
Show me where exactly Dec/Antonio said Arteta planned to play for a draw. You this guy would sometimes make one doubt if one truly went to school or not.

Anyway, show us how exactly the screenshot showed we played for draw.

Lmaooo....
Dem Sabi twist plain English just to give it a whole new meaning sha. Dec told Antonio that they won't see the normal arsenal they know (which is obviously the swashbuckling arsenal);. What's their interpersonal: Arsenal came to draw.

Make I laff small especially that bolded

germaphobe:
I observed that he knows exactly what he does and he know that he's good at it. Truth is the angles and view point he provide isn't always far from reality.

Yeah, the point he brings is somehow close to reality na why most times I dey argue with am to clear the air.

Most times my guy knows what he's doing

BlueRayDick:
Na u get enough idle time on ur hands. Since I don see say he couldn't come up with any other point to defend himself, I just lock up

Na just say Spy na interesting person that why

oliverano:
Players like Carrick, Busquet, Jorginho are not always rated highly by fans but by their team mates and managers.

Jorginho has declined no doubt but he was a world class player by all metric. You don't win Euros, UCL, UEFA best player and finish 3rd in balondor by luck, never!!!

I think Pep wanted him to be his DM at a point but that's not really where I'm driving at...

My point is this, the fact that those playing with him, coaching him and the UEFA technical team suggest he was the best at a point, then he did alot right.

Is he currently world class? No. Was he world class definitely yes!!!

You don't get all those accolades by luck at this level!

Everyone knows Jorginho getting all those accolades is due to his team winning those competitions and him being a starter.

Was he the top 3 or top 5 player in Chelsea in their ucl win or league performances? Definitely not

Was he the top 3 performers in their euro win? No oo.

And to me, that's just his only peak season. Was there any season you were like "Ohhh, Jorginho is really the man?"

Even Busquet and Carrick sef, I dey hail them die.

You can't tell me you're a world class player and even your fans can't acknowledge you.

Barca fans deh acknowledge Busquet
Man u fans dey acknowledge Carrick
Chelsea fans don't acknowledge Jorginho, instead it's Kante.

Forget bros, World class is undoubted.
And you can't just use only one season to attain it

popizaino:



I even forgot that one totally.

Amigoss:
Like say you go fit beat brighton

Make dem do their own first.

If we no do our own then na we fvck up

Ellexy:
Arteta's whinnying seems to have reduced in recent times but you see Gabriel, that guy is a prick, I absolutely don't like him one bit.

As for United, we wey be the fans dey tell you make you comot mind from that Liverpool game, Old Trafford or not. The team always collects.

Don't worry, I get faith.

As far say no be against Man city Una dey play, then I'll keep the faith

germaphobe:

Spy na case.

He still carry the epistle Shalaye then the concluding part he now claimed I was right.

Like which kain wahala be Spy abeg ?

Spy360:
Here's the statement you quoted

We wanted to win, but when you cannot win you must not lose

What he wish for was to win (same as everyone else) it he felt it wasn't possible

What he planned for was to draw since losing wasn't an option

Rephrased

We wanted to win but it isn't possible against City so we decided we should at least draw the game.

Mind you, I understand your direction when you said he planned not to lose. But that statement though grammertically correct sounds funny.

So you just dey argue with me dey waste our time be that

Chaiii

TrebleChamp:
This team is shit, has been shit from the start of the season despite the fluke results here and there. Ten Bald will set his team up against Liverpool to get outplayed, outruned and outscored as usual.

Sunday no far again bros.

hensben:
Its individual award bro. If Palmer surpass Halaand to win golden boot, he will be a great contender for player of the year. YPOY is sure already.

Young player is sure no doubt cos no one comes close

Tell me who won player of the year when you guys won the league in 2016/17?

I guess it's Kane the highest goalscorer.
Oh Kante won the highest goalscorer. My bad!!

How many Poty have Kane won sef?
In fact, has he won it?

kingBolton:
Will you say chelsea's defensive issues are as a result of individual quality or as a result of defensive structure employed by our coach?
Will getting new defenders improve chelsea's defense ?

I believe you guys lack leaders in that defence area. No communication in defence, no communication in midfield and this makes the structure to be haphazard.

If you guys buy defenders that aren't leaders, same problem will still persist. E be like say nobody wan take responsibility for that defence area

hensben:
When Ten Hag was putting him where he rightly belong didn’t you see the drama that followed after.

Club football is different.

Country football just needs the coach not to call him. It's that simple. No one will tell him to retire

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You go see wetin go happen.

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Fingers crossed

TrebleChamp:
Don't lose ke, against Liverpool? Biko find your favour go elsewhere, no be this Ten Bald team go help you..

You people did it at Anfield

Beat dem at fa cup (even drew them again in normal time).

Why won't I have hope

I know the Chelsea result is giving y'all Pstd but don't worry, na old Trafford Liverpool dey come

izzou:


[color=royalblue]Draw indeed

People wey dem go flog like who tiff phone for Uselu[/color]

If they can draw at Anfield 0-0.(the only side to prevent Liverpool from scoring this season), then asking for a draw at old Trafford shouldn't be a tall order na

hensben:
They don’t want him again at Portugal but can’t tell him to retire due his tantrums, his present drop Portugal’s quality of play as a team. Some of the players already telling him with code but he is refusing to get the memo.

Like I said, it up to the coach not to call him.

Shebi if coach no wan call am, him go force himself enter camp?

Stop making this thing about Ronaldo. Nobody tells a player to retire. He only retires when he wants to

swiz123:
He didn't anticipate that Bandiashile will be stupid enough to stay close to him instead of opening up to receive his pass and recycle possession.

Later, Bandiashile sent a through ball to Anthony who assisted Garnacho.

Yeah, but I was talking about that first goal (by Garnacho).
You guys defence are just poorly organised.
No leader, no communicator.

Sha, Na Oga Raum.deuter dem dey follow. Just engage and don't point or communicate

hensben:
If Drogba took our penalty that Lampard took he will be higher than Salah. Imagine Palmer win golden boot, YPOY and POY this place nor go contain some people.

Lmaooo, who go dash am Poty?

Na for 11th position player take deh win Poty?

You too dey get ahead of yourself walahi. Try deh slowdown

Ellexy:
Don't lose ke? Lol
But I'll prefer you guys to win the league even though I hate your coach and that annoying Gabriel.

My coach is just passionate and nothing more.
He's even very respectful sef

As for Gabriel, he's every fans dream defender. Dem no dey hate that kinda person na

Abeg just try draw. Anyhow anyhow even if na to park bus🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

hensben:
But him still Dey play nor gree say him don old, while zizou and dinho have retired is the difference. If him don old make him retire.

He's at a retirement league (Qatar). All top players go to the retirement league for last paycheck. You don't decide for them when they should retire.

If Portugal doesn't wants to call him, it's not by force. He's 39, He's already paid his dues.

swiz123:
A good player, coaches always prefer him and he reached the pinnacle of European recognition... sounds like worldclass to me.

Sounds like but he isn't.

It's like Leicester carrying league and they gave Ranieri FIFA best coach. It still doesn't make Ranieri a world class coach. He just had a tremendous year(season). Same as Jorginho

kingBolton:
Does it mean the defence has failed once we concede a goal ?
Was the first two goals we concede yesterday as a result of our defenders failure?

Defence failure and organisation.

You guys were up 2-nil and guys here were already saying the defence will concede, yet they didn't just concede one but 3.

Who even gave that backpass to Garnacho?
Was it not Caicedo (a DM) if I'm not mistaken?

Since Silva wasn't available, you guys have been conceding goals like water. I believe it wouldn't have been this worse if he's present


Forget all these ones that's saying defenders shouldn't point? Na wetin dey cause all these kind goals yet you'll find out not one Defender is at fault (yet goals go dey enter)

hensben:
Is cr7 not be unwanted currently at Portugal does that mean he wasn’t world class player at some point.

CR7 at 39?

Can you hear yourself?

You for kukuma call Zidane and Ronaldinho back

Ellexy:
Ten Hag doesn't know what he's saying, we'll see what will happen against Liverpool not that I expect anything though.

No matter wetin Una wan do, make Una no lose abeg.

Na old Trafford biko.

Don't Lose

swiz123:
This divided opinion was created by one particular fraud here. Jorginho is gone and we are still battling our woes.

Why not trust the opinion of his managers who always use him and forget about the clowns here who said Chelsea will start competing for the league immediately Jorginho is gone.

No no no!

I'm not talking about divided opinions here on Nairaland but other sports platforms as well. Jorginho is always criticized (even though I agree here it's one of the highest). In fact, on different platforms, so many Chelsea fans were glad Jorginho left and many arsenal fans were sad we bought Jorginho.

That itself negates any world class player tag you would want to give him.

As for coaches starting him, he's a good player quite alright so yeah.
But World class?? No ooo!!

Vischy:
Kante comes to mind

Exactly

You see them Messi, Ronaldo, Kante, Kdb, Modric et al, no one doubts their quality and even rival fans love and fear them. Any team they go to, they're sure of starting barring injuries.

How does Jorginho fit any of these criteria?
Even arsenal fans still prefer Partey over Jorginho, yet Jorg is world class.

Funny shiii