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mostob:
So far so good, na only on this thread i don hear say Arteta planned to defend at Etihad.
I think I will drop the link to EBL2016 twitter thread here.
You don't plan to go toe-to-toe with Pep. You can not even prepare a specific tactic against him because man is unpredictable. If Arsenal had gone full attacking mode and we conceded heavily, we the fans would still be the one to criticize him for not defending

Factos!!!

Lush100:
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Oga Pep meant arsenal on Sunday.
He said it in pre match interview tgat he will beat arsenal.

Do u know that even with our plan.
They almost succeeded.

If u came to win and your opponents are creating chances upon chances....u will be forced to defend.

But u see this Mancity game...Pep just wanted to score a goal and control the possession to the end....if we try to do anyhow ...he will unleash more goals.

We had the better chance.

Arteta did not come to draw.
He knows Pep meant arsenal on Sunday.

Arteta read it well.
Once Pep saw that he was nullified...he began to play his Mancity normal game.
Then reverted back to his between lines game again.

Arsenal players aside coach were playing with their life depend on that game. If not we for loose.
An the referee was trying to ensure a balanced game where unnecessary calls where avoided.

Forget let's go for Bayern.

U will see ball

Lol...
You're quoting the wrong person sha

[quote author=TheLe.qute post=129228699]Lol.

It’s a results game and people will not take any thing other than a W.

What most people don’t realize is that these managers go into games with the intent to win but also plan for a worst case scenario.

Few managers can go to the Etihad with a gung ho mindset and expect to win, especially when they’ve been severally dealt with in the past on that ground.

Even SAF go into these big clashes with a measured approach, especially when the opposition is doing great. The match would be a borefest but he manages to win 1-0 sometimes. If worse come to worse, he’ll get a draw.

Sunday’s match was similar to the first leg at the Emirates. The difference is Arsenal managed to score a goal in the other one and didn’t score at the Etihad.[/quote]Spy360, this right here is what I and blueray meant when we say that Arteta planned not to lose.

If we "only" plan to win like Man City, it'll be a very open game and trust me, we won't leave there with any point.

I don try, if you no get am then

TheLequte:
Lol.

It’s a results game and people will not take any thing other than a W.

What most people don’t realize is that these managers go into games with the intent to win but also plan for a worst case scenario.

Few managers can go to the Etihad with a gung ho mindset and expect to win, especially when they’ve been severally dealt with in the past on that ground.

Even SAF go into these big clashes with a measured approach, especially when the opposition is doing great. The match would be a borefest but he manages to win 1-0 sometimes. If worse come to worse, he’ll get a draw.

Sunday’s match was similar to the first leg at the Emirates. The difference is Arsenal managed to score a goal in the other one and didn’t score at the Etihad.

Exactly. The only difference we even had much more possession in first leg was because our Midfield were practically better than their (No Kdb or Rodri as well as Alvarez playing Midfield which acted as a short 1).

Very few managers go with a gung ho mindset against Pep in Etihad. Not when their Midfield is complete and they've something to play for.

The bolded is exactly what I've said here earlier and even at Chelsea thread. The only difference is just the crucial decision making which Havertz did in first leg and Trossard failed to do in second leg, else both were just pure borefest. But if we'd scored, I'm sure most people wouldn't have said we came for a draw

BlueRayDick:
This is why I kept refrencing how Pep choked up the midfield. He knew what he was doing and wanted to snuff life out of us from the middle to the final third.

If Raya had been trying to force play from back along with Saliba, Gabriel and Kiwior we for don collect in that 1st half sef cos City too were passive aggressive in closing us down ASAP from back.

Thank you very much.

See the way Bernardo dey useless Kiwior and Kdb and Ake were even tripling up on him and we expect GJ not to drop deep?

Even GJ hardly won any first or second ball when Ake was present. Na only when Lewis replaced him GJ started winning aerial balls. I remember when guys here during the match was saying we're losing all first and second balls. Yet they still feel we should come out and attack.

Thank you for noticing these things

Once I saw that 1st 10min, I knew that we'll naturally default to play that pattern cos Man City really pressed and counter pressed us. Not only that, they practically block off all passing lanes. I mean, look at Raya playing long balls during goalkicks, if you look well, City block of all passing lanes to prevent us from playing at the back and at such moments, it'll be very very foolish to play at the back.

Arteta always talks about "living the game" or you try and live the game mostly in his pre match and post match press.

I dunno if anyone is conversant with it but if you don't and you really want to know what it means, then you can read this article at your spare time

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theathletic.com/4102887/2023/01/19/mikel-arteta-arsenal-living-games/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj67f7QmaOFAxWdQEEAHdMcBAAQFnoECAoQAg&usg=AOvVaw3BlGD3sxL0wo6s-LvESNZE


Immediately I saw that 1st ten to 15min, I knew Man City came for blood. I just immediately know that that's how we'll play out (thereby living the game).

TheLequte:
E ku oriire ijeta o.

First time in approximately 9 years not to lose at the Etihad.

Better count your blessings

They want us to attack Etihad cos maybe it's Sheffield and Nottingham forest we're playing away.

Spy360:
Gabriel Jesus is not a striker. Arteta does not employ a striker role in his tactical plan. His major goal outlet are the wingers. His tactical plan relies more on the wingers for goals that whoever is playing the assumed striker (false 9) role. It is for this reason a player like Nketiah is struggling for shirt despite being a better goal poacher than Gabriel Jesus. This argument is stale.

Abeggiiii.....
An attacker would see chance to score but he'll dribble unnecessarily and your defense is because he's not a striker

No wonder you said there's nothing wrong with Havertz missing that one on one against Liverpool because according to you, he's not a striker.

No be me and you go follow talk this one

Spy360:
Which one is decided not to lose? Lol. Who decides to lose.

Arteta didn't play to win, hence he played to draw. No one plays to lose.

Lol...
Playing not to lose is not a new football term na.
Arteta came to Win or at worst draw reason he deployed that pattern of ceding possession while hoping on transitions. If he came to draw, he wouldn't even put Trossard, Martinelli and Partey.

Pep came to win reason he emphasized on control.

It's a simple tactical game

BlueRayDick:
So what did Arteta play to do in 2020 FA cup semi final when we played the same pattern and won city 2-0?

Just take a look at the stats of both matches ; u can see that stats are very very similar. The only major difference is the fact that our attack took more shots at goal and they converted 2 while we didn't convert any in this Sunday match .

I don't think Arteta played to draw at all. Instead I think he came with a pattern to prevent city from playing and his own team making the best out of any opportunity that presents itself . It's simply cos he knows going all out against city is suicide

Na because we no score na why they think say we play for draw.

We have the most dangerous transitions and clear cut chances to score than Man City but they feel Arteta came to draw. Even the subs will even tell someone that he didn't even come to draw at all.

We just need the GJ of last season that started in preseason and started against Leicester.

That GJ no deh over dribble when he near 18.

Come to think of it, when have GJ tried the genius lob dink he did against Leicester?

BlueRayDick:
The funny thing is Jesus has always been like that . The only reason people are angry is because we didn't eventually win the game.

If u watch Jesus well , u will notice that due to the fact that he's skillful and can work his way round tight spaces ; he doesn't like to shoot to hit any opponent for deflection . He always likes to take direct and clear shot when the road is finally clear .

Immediately he had the ball yesterday I knew he was going to try and dribble himslef out of that position . I was not really agitated he didn't hit the target eventually cos I know his game

I remember arguing the bolded here with Spy during the first half of last season when Jesus was experiencing goal drought. I even used pix to illustrate it sef

Good strikers just need to find a good opening to take a shot but for GJ he would want the space to be wide like express way. He'll create a very good opening for shot taking then use another dribble to close it back. After he'll now use another dribble to put himself at a very difficult place/position to score then finally he'll now take a very stupid shot when the position is tight.

GJ hadn't changed one bit

airmark:
I just welcomed a baby boy, got no time for your meaningless yarns.

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Congratulations boss.
May the child be an absolute blessing to everyone related and connected to him

popizaino:
No you are the one that is being ridiculous,thinking every goal has to be pin on defenders or defense.


Probably Barcelona defence was also bad in 2006 for Sol Campbell to score them.

Most set pieces goals especially corners is solely on defence due to defence organisation (or lack of it).

Arsenal have only conceded one abi two goals through corner this season. I'm sure Liverpool is less than 3 while for Man City I doubt.

You think they're top 3 best defences because of their attack? I laugh in Swahili!!!!

Go an sort out your defence first cos this 2 goals per match you guys are scoring Is enough to take you up the table than were you are presently.

This is our first half of the season average goal per match, yet we were challenging for the league as at then (this article was released as at 23rd of November last year).

What stops you from moving away from even 9th with same 2 goals per match if not because of your defence?

popizaino:
Pep guardiola has played up to a thousand matvh but he is only able to point to just a single match and that single match definitely defines pep guardiola.


Well done to you and your imaginary pep lover.

Lol...
You obviously didn't read his first paragraph?

He clearly said Pep can win ugly when the occasion demands and he gave an example.

How you twist it to say that that's the only match Pep played ugly needs to be studied

popizaino:
I realise your team had scored most goals even when they have not had the most chances in the league.

Look at the screenshot below and ponder about it. In open play goals, we were very poor first half of this season. Most of our goals where just pk and corner kicks.

Yet, we were still challenging for the league.

What do you think is the reason?

Our defence

If you think Arteta or Pep setup to concede presently, you're on a long thing brother

popizaino:
Answer my question. When last have we come back from 2goals down and won?

Aside Bournemouth last season, I don't even know when my own club came from two goals down and won.

All these isn't necessary if a defence do a good job cos it's never sustainable in the long run

timbros:
Jod.era leave Po.pizaino.

See Airmark don mellow down, he don dey shift the post small small, say defence na minor problem now

Popi.zaino just decide to be a clown instead of towing his master's path.

Popi suppose don calm down sef. It's shameful defending that defense for what they did on Saturday

WhoDeyHause:
Na your attack and defence?

WhoDeyHause:
Oga you rest now. You don't have defence vs attack problem in your team to burst your head so leave us that have the boil in our scrotum to finish our selves till the next agenda pops up.

Space dey big enough for you to wail na.

My communication with Popi no suppose deh block you from wailing if you wan wail about your team

andrewbaba44:
I remember when pep go wanda metropolitano go give simeone park the bus ,simeone self wan cry

popizaino:
How?

Point to one defender

How was the goal scored?

Corner kick shey?

And you say I should not call out the defence. You're Ridiculous at this point

popizaino:
That's why pep guardiola left Mourinho behind.

See wetin your fellow Pep lover dey tell you

andrewbaba44:
Naaa ,you won’t outscore opponent everytime

Even pep Dey win ugly at times

Read the bolded carefully and recite it 3 times in the morning and 3 times in the nights

popizaino:
Do you realise your realise you have scored the most goals in the league while not creating as much big chances as for your attackers like Chelsea?

Do you also realise we have the least goal conceded and the highest clean sheets amassed.?
Do you also realise we have the least shot faced and shot on target faced?

If this isn't balance in plain terms that Timb.ros is telling you of, then I don't think anything can help you understand

popizaino:
Answer me first .

Timbros come and help him out.

We're talking about what happened on Saturday and the circumstances and you're asking that question.

Your question would have made sense if you guys were losing 2-0 before the red card then drew 2-2.

popizaino:
Which of the goals scored is caused by any of my defenders?

Second goal. I've already answered you na.

andrewbaba44:
I love 1-0 wins sha e really help us last season ,thank you pedri and raph for those 1 nil wins

Na Popi deh reason say you must outscore opponents 100 for person to win game
No be 17 abi 16 Una concede last season?

Chelsea conceded 15 goals to win the league under Mou but a whole Popi is saying top teams don't play not to concede

popizaino:
Will you forever shut up and take your L if i should show you 5 of those matches in that season?

yeah, 5 of those matches that involves red card to the midtable teams against Man city that season.

Do that and I'll forever hold my peace

Lmaooo...
Since dem no see correct troll to troll again, e don dey pepper dem say we park bus.

popizaino:
The bigger shame should be on you for supporting an Arsenal fan whose team can afford to give Burnley a three goal lead and still later win.

Even if we win 2-0, will still win.

You're getting ridiculous at this point.

This year, we conceded just 4 goals in the league. FOUR!!!

We can afford to score two goals each in all the matches and would still go home with 3 points. That's to tell you the importance of the defence

popizaino:
What you are yet to understand is that it could be Man urinated,shitty or even Assnal against Burnley on Saturday under the same circumstances and also conceding but will later win?


When last did Chelsea win from a 2-0 down before?

Na lie abeg!!

Pegged back TWICE against Guardiola Man city or this present Arsenal. For over 45min

Abegg na lie.

As for your bolded second question. On Saturday, was that the circumstance?