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swiz123:
He showed consistency in his role which earned him a move to Chelsea. When he competed with a good manager, he showed the world what he can do.

What sort of consistency?
High quality Consistency at Chelsea?

He came to Chelsea around 2018 or so.

From 2018 to 2021, he won't have divided opinions amongst your fan base if he showed high quality Consistency. It's a fact!

Only that singular fact is enough not to place him as would class cos world class players are undoubted.

Unlimited22:
Brother, you can't be fasting and lying nau.... Haba

adebayo201:
Players have their own share of blame but you can't sack the team when this terrorist of a coach is mismanaging the whole team.

Why not bring in Amad when you're taking off Garnacho? He'll run, hold and give you some options better than what you could imagine but this career killer that prefers to play a player out of position and overwork others won't do that.

Israel should send a drone on this bald headed man!

Ten Hag needs to have the balls to bench Rashford and sub Bruno sometimes.

I didn't know the only power he has was ontop Ronaldo.

Him fall hand no be small

hensben:
This guy don’t even know how ascertain player’s position. Positionally, he can be called a DM but doesn’t change the fact, on the field of play his main strength is box to box. He is more like makelele than Kante. Context.

Did you say this when you claimed he'll free Enzo?
Did you not know he'll roam when you claimed he'll be the DM that Chelsea needs?

Dey there dey deceive yourself

swiz123:
I don't like engaging in fruitless discourse. That a team win trophies doesn't make all their players world class please. But for a player who has maintained consistent level of high Performance over years and has trophies to show is a worldclass player.

Has Folden shown consistent level of high performance over the years? No. Does he have the potential to? Yes. When did Folden become a guaranteed starter sef?

Haaland has shown consistency in front of goal even before coming to City and when he joined City which is a competitive team, he now has trophies to show. Of course, he has proven himself to be a world class player.

Jorginho reached a very high peak in football and has an Euro and UCL, UEFA player of the year and nearly won a balon d'or. If that is not world class, then I don't know what is.

Any player that has majority of its fan divided against him and that most of the fans are even happy he left is certainly not a world class.

You yourselves said consistent good performances of at least 3-5 yrs or maybe more but here you are painting Jorginho world class for just one season he arguably "shone"

hensben:
Caicedo can play DM but doesn’t mean it is his best position was my point that day. He play more like makelele and not Kante. Remember makelele started as CAM and then box to box to fully DM while at Chelsea.

What do you mean by this below.??

Na person wey no sabi English you go carry all these long turenci deceive when You simply brought evidence that his primary position is a DM and event went as far as mocking ibi.me

Trevor012:
Erik bin laden is useless na. Sir ole is ten times better than the bald fraud.

hensben:
He will become that in his late 20s but for now he is too good to be sitting because he is not one like Rice is my point.

You never said all these when you were championing for Caicedo to be signed to free Enzo.

You never said all these when you told Ib.ime that Caicedo is a DM even whe he claimed otherwise. In fact you even boasted that sadly ib.ime doesn't know it all.

Just forget this your epistles bros!

Trevor012:
Imagine using a player performance against United that has conceded the most shots in 2024 has turning up against the big boys. When oliverano dey call us dream of players I just dey laugh. Erik bin laden ha finished us. I miss Sir Ole.

I think I remember when Dons.tan said that Ten Hag might make you guys miss Sir Ole well.
Omorr, this Ten Hag matter tie wrapper sha, tho I always know you to be an OLE stan

Ellexy:
Thinking about the game last night, there was no point bringing Rashford in to come and jug while you have the likes of Amad on the bench who will work his socks off.

Antony had a very good game btw. Very key in the 3 goals we scored.

Like Antony surprised me ystdy. That to me is arguably his best performance in Man u shirt.

You guys play better without Rashford. The coach says it's because of Liverpool he's resting Rashford, now I don't even have hope again for that match.

Trevor012:
Wait till Caicedo pick small form and the rice comparison will start again championed by hensbrain.

I trust him. Him no dey disappoint at all

Vischy:
At the bolded is the funniest logic l have seen this morning 😂😂😂😂

This year sef and I doubt anything will top that logic

Trevor012:
Hensben can turn and change mouth like 1 million times. Very shameless human being

If Caicedo starts balling in that DM now(who knows maybe he's adapting to the new role), you'll see Henny start calling him the best DM in the world and that he knew that he was always a DM

Trevor012:
When Ibime said Caicedo was not a dm hensbrain said he doesn't know anything. Now he is saying dey bought Lavia to sit for his DM. Take hensbrain seriously at your own risk 😂😂

Henny takes as Doc calls it.

The kind of U-turns and denials Hen.sben does is out of these world

timbros:
Especially the last goal.

Even Palmer will be shocked at the kind of space he had for that shot in the last goal. So shocking!

Likeeeeeeee....

If this is the kind of matches that make Popi stuff to erect, then it's funny.

It's also funny considering he and Airma.rk are Van Dijk loyalist and they saw how Van Dijk calmed the defence of Liverpool. Prior to his arrival, Liverpool were doing basketball scorelines.

Surprising it's even coming from them

afrodoc2:
They won’t let the boy rest and develop codedly. He never drink finish drop cup, they are comparing him to more established players. And Saka must be dragged into it 😄

E tire me ooo.

Na hens.ben they start this opata and surprisingly others will just pick it up.

I don't know how they do it

swiz123:
Actually, I am not being unfair. In these past 3 seasons, which of his performances has taken Arsenal beyond the edge?

In those title deciding games, he has been largely underwhelming. I am sure last season's title deciding game vs City at the Etihad is still fresh in your memory.

It's only world class players that I'll expect this from consistently and like I said earlier, I don't believe Saka have reached that stage yet. But he's a top player and Arsenal as a team fvcked up but expecting only Saka as if he's one Salah or Kdb, I won't do that.

But even at that, I can still call games he really shone. Big games. Liverpool and Man u, both at Emirates, Saka stood up. If you've forgotten, me as an arsenal fan won't forget.

Even the world cup against France, he was the standout player. In fact, England loosened their grip on France as he was subbed.

If you watch Saka in the past 3 seasons and you don't see the hype but you feel Palmer of this season is better than Saka overall, then I don't know what to say.

Surprising coming from you Tbh

swiz123:
Who said Foden is world class? He has yet to show consistency in performance to be classified as such but the potential is there.

Arsenal have no world class player aside Jorginho. When they start winning major trophies, the consistent players amongst them will be judged as world class performers.

Lmaooo....
Abeg abeg abegg!!

timbros:
If this boys brain correct, we can actually push for European place.

If we can win our outstanding match, we will shoot up to 7th place, 2 points behind Man Utd and take it up from there.... But no, they will take 3 steps back after this one step forward.

Exactly what I told Popi two days ago. You can't be scoring 2 goals per match and you won't even be thinking about Europe.

On the flip side,Man u defence was just useless. An average defence would see that match out. They just switched off for the last two goals.

afrodoc2:
I remember when Reece James first joined the senior team and several people here were criticising him. I said then that that guy would be a high level performer cos he was like a street bully in the juniors. After a season those same critics were claiming he was the best RB in the world.

Same thing this season. People who were crying salty tears when Palmer was bought are now claiming he is better than Bellingham, Foden, and even Saka combined. 😄

Na this one muse me pass.

Truly success get many fathers.

But if na your scout ID, I believe you die. Na from Greenwood matter I really believe your ministry

iamoyindamola:
Watch ball don't follow livescore you refused
Who assisted garnacho second goal
Make una sell rashford sef we need him

huh

Na wa ooo

And who tell you say na Rashford assist Garnacho

oliverano:
When he mentioned big team, I knew he kind of excluded Kane because Totehman isn't a big team. I don't completely agree with his logic but I get his point though!

Yeah, he later even clarified and I agree with his point finally

afrodoc2:
I am not famzing. I scouted.

While I was scouting him others were scouting Maguire and Baba Rahman. Wicked scouts.

P.S I don’t need a discount. My money is like garri ijebu.

swiz123:
He is not having a bad season so I will use this season to assess him. He better turns up against Bayern, otherwise I will cancel him indefinitely.

This season he's been carrying niggling injuries which have been affecting his play a while now.

If you're only using this season to assess him(when he's played like 3 seasons of good football), then it's unfair on him from you.

swiz123:
Read my post calmly. I said as long as a player plays for a big team capable of competing for major trophies and fails to win anything after repeated trials, he can't be regarded as world class.

Therefore two things makes a player World class; consistency in performance for at least 5 years or maybe more and trophies to show for it.

Alright then, I agree with you on this

swiz123:
Maybe I need to start watching Arsenal vs Burnley, Sheffield united, Fulham, Luton Town to see all these qualities. Sadly, I don't have such time.

I have personally come to observe him vs Chelsea, Liverpool, Man u, Man city, Porto and I saw nothing.

These are the type of games I rate players from, not against significantly weaker opposition.

Are you talking about this season Saka or previous seasons?

You can't watch Saka of previous seasons and come out with this conclusion. Well it's your opinion tho

swiz123:
World class Striker of course by virtue of his longevity in his craft and most importantly because I know that his lack of trophies is simply because of the team he used to play for before now. TOT never had the financial power to compete for trophies with the big boys.

So that means you necessarily don't have to win trophies for you to be rated as World class then.

I'm not saying Saka is world class, just clearing the air of you saying one must win trophy to be graded as world class (though it's very important)

hensben:
Jorginho or Partey sit for Rice to roam freely in that midfield same is not for Caceido. Rice doesn’t have the tactical ability to sit, Caceido is a bit better at it but his area of strength is box to box. How is this difficult to understand.

You're talking out of ignorance.
Like I said earlier, you hardly watch arsenal match.

All what you said here is false. Like literally everything

swiz123:
With all due respect, you know so little about football. I think your interest in football is not that deep as your logic is shocking.

Any player in a big team capable of competing for major trophies who hasn't won anything after years of trying can never be regarded as world class.

Saka's performance is a game they lost which he neither scored or assisted is better than any compilation of Palmer so far? This is embarrassing!

How would you Rate Kane?

Top Striker or World class Striker??

mostob:
I know sha but City and Liverpool have that mentality edge. I'm just trying to be realistic. With the remaining games, if I'm asked to predict the top 3, It will be

Arsenal
Liverpool
City

Arsenal leading with GD. Make we dey watch sha

Lol, while I understand your point but trying to be realistic doesn't mean you should give up on this season because Liverpool won Sheffield. I mean, do you expect Liverpool to drop point against Sheffield at Anfield?? Like Sheffield, the EPL worst team?

If there's a game to judge Liverpool's mentality, it's certainly not against Sheffield.

Like you say, make we deh watch the hope(while doing our own part). That to me is being realistic

hensben:
I have always say Rice is more effective, it doesn’t mean Caceido is not good, just that he is not a sitting DM, same as Rice. Partey and Jorginho have bailed out Rice, Caceido isn’t bailed yet.

Oga stay one place, you've never said anything. You that's looking at Rice like he's not a technical player at all.

For you to even say Partey and Jorginho have bailed out Rice confirms all I need to know about your knowledge of Rice and arsenal as a whole.

Just stick with your Chelsea

Spy360:
It means his plan was to draw. English hard you reach like this?

"We wanted to win but when...."

Emphasis on "when" not "If"

You can twist plain and simple English all you want for argument case na you sabi. Case closed