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iamoyindamola:
We have the most expensive ticket in whole of england

Yeah, I remember fans always complaining then for having the highest tickets purchased yet the teams will go trophyless(I think it was £65 then while other clubs were going for £35-£40).

All those stories no add up

mostob:
whether we were paying for stadium or not. Whether there was 200m somewhere or not. Wenger and the whole board fumbled.

I mean, wouldn't Arsenal have earned same money or even bigger if the target was the EPL trophy? What did we have to lose if we compete for trophies instead of top 4? No be money we go collect? I know the squad needed improvement but no be money person dey use find money?

No be say the team was that bad sef. A quality signing in two or three positions and we would be competing.

Na wetin dey vex fans be this. Nobody is even saying we should spend like Chelsea or Madrid those times. We were equipped enough, what we just need is 2-3 quality signings and we're good for league competitiveness but Wenger will always make sure we're always always short in that regard.

If it's not defense, it's Attack. The worst is the league Leicester won. That was our only hope then and what we needed was a good striker but Wenger always felt only Giroud will take us through.

Omorr, Wenger do us strong thing

Roland17:
Few pages before this Edu was detailing how Arsenal were able to complete Rice’s signature and everyone was applauding.

Now, do the same for Wenger when he sold his best players.. where did revenue from sales of his best players go? With a straight face, tell me where it went to.

From 2006 — 2013?
Aside the Emirates deal, sponsorship deals, revenues from tickets, EPL, UCL and other commercials like jersey sales, you believe with all these revenues, (minus best players sales), it couldn't pay for the stadium for almost 10yrs?

Naaaahhhh, I don't believe that.

Roland17:
They did not clarify much to me if I am to be honest because they just said things that have been debunked on this thread severally. 200M from where? On this thread I showed that such never existed nor happened.

My question to you guys is, post Wenger, did Emery get the financial backing? If there was money $200M as alleged by many sitting somewhere that Wenger was sitting on, how did it disappear post Wenger.

Show me where Arsenal were financially competitive post Wenger. Do you want me to show you Emery’s signings? How about Arteta? In his first 2 years and after Kroenke bought off Usmanov, where was the investment? We were flirting with relegation. Wasn’t there supposed to be 200M sitting somewhere?

I am sorry but I disagree with the position many of you are taking. They are mostly perception, if I am to use Blueraydick’s word.

Even during Wenger we broke our transfer record thrice (Ozil, Laca and Auba respectively) with the last two been broken back to back.

We might not be financially competitive and I doubt we're even financially competitive now but what we lacked then is at least spending money when due while not selling our key players. (Much like how Liverpool is doing under Klopp)

Under Emery, we signed a Pepe for 72m, we signed torreira, Ceballos for two years, signed young Saliba for 27m(which is a big fee for a youngster) and Leno.

Most of these players were very decent at least when we bought them and that was money we used.

We might probably disagree to agree but Arsene hands wasn't really tied the way he made us to believe

Spy360:
Ok. Sunday awaits.

My own be say on that day, if him see big chance make him score.
I no wan hear from your mouth say all Strikers miss chances like that just like how you dey tell Dave.P against Liverpool

andrewbaba44:
He is not really overhyped

For Una and Neville to call am World class player, that's definitely overhyped

airmark:
At Foden's age, Kane had won 2 Epl golden boots, 2 England's player of the year awards, and World cup golden boot. Foden has nothing close to highlight his prowess.

As we speak, they are thinking of changing Bundesliga to KANEdesliga.

Eruditor, don't stretch it (your arm leg).

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Foden good but the overhype is just getting much. Na people wey deh call am World class starting with Neville abi na Carragher naim cause all these lamba

iamoyindamola:
Incase you don't know we are still paying for emirates stadium

The man was arrogant, power drunk
He literally telling the fans to go fvck themselves, any legends that speak otherwise he tell them off that's why majority avoided him and the club
He ruled the club like our naija politicians does, i don't know if those brutal beating didn't get to him but my mental state was drained mehn
This man have the best tux in managers and you say no money
There was a time on deadline we badly need addition, even table toppers were buying guess what
This man was in italy officiating a charity match, they ask him if arsenal will be getting anyone on deadline baba say he's okay with his squad

No respect for fans at all

Wenger no rate fans at all. And the bad results no ever dey shake am. Na just when top 4 deh in jeopardy our arsenal go turn prime Barca

BlueRayDick:
This!

Athletico didn't spend almost a decade in the wilderness cos they built a stadium, same with Tottenham. In fact, Tottenham rarely relies on their academy products; they kept on signing more and more players every season while keeping their already established stars.

The fact that Tottenham didn't fall off from their regular top 6 position over time just no want make me forgive Wenger and the board for taking us on a ride for too long.

Yeah, before I was believing that farce small small but I wasn't really convinced cos how can building a new stadium affect a big team for such a long time like that. It doesn't really add up or make sense.

When Tottenham and Athletico did theirs, that's when I knew these people took the fans on a lamba for soooo long

IZUKWU:
Build your ideal Arsenal midfield .
Personally,I will go with :Viera, carzola, Odegaard

Same here, this would be my choice too

Lush100:
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I know many guys will not want to cut Wenger some slack but Tottenham are having a similar issue with their stadium.
Eventually Harry Kane left.

Mourinho, Conte and Co. all complained about LEVY.

U guys are looking at only the football aspects.
See there was a time Everton were buying players anyhow.
But their revenue still remain the same that's why them dey dock.points now.

No manager will like to sell his best players unless the players want to leave.

Arsenal was first to completely build a new stadium.

Others want to do additions now.

Top four every year for 19 years is no joke even with good players ask Liverpool.

If u are building a brand from the scratch. It's not that easy.

Tottenham built from scratch.
They just didn't move ground but they demolished the old one completely and built an exquisite new one

And Tottenham were better in terms of spending and holding players than arsenal. They don't just have a great coach all those while.

Mourinho and Conte are extravagant coaches that even if you give them the world this season, they won't be contented and still demand for another world next season while still playing boring football. It's one big reason I disagreed with Roland then when he said
why are we watching Conte (a better coach) going to Spurs while we're still stuck with Arteta.

Check na, dem still deh buy players and they're still holding their star players. Kane played his better life there, moved at 30 and still commanded 100m, while we sold Nari, fab etc at their peak for peanuts.
If na us get Son and Eriksen, we for don sell dem tey tey during their prime

It's through Tottenham and I think Athletico I knew this stadium ish that held us for almost 10yrs na farce. Especially Tottenham cos they're not richer than us, they have a stingy owner yet they didn't sell their star players and still bought correct ones (while still holding to their star players).

Roland17:
We have to be careful with how we compare and talk about that era. There is absolutely no way a coach like Wenger who had won numerous league titles including being invincible, FA Cups and a trip to the UEFA suddenly became content making top 4. You think selling his best players gave him any joy? Some of these things are tough.

I challenge anyone to mention a top class coach during that era that Wenger competed against or even now who would have come close to achieving top 4 considering our reality at the time. If anything, top teams like Madrid and even City openly recruited him. When the position became vacant, did you wonder why no top coach wanted to touch it?

Furthermore, Arteta is benefiting from the sacrifices made by Wenger during those difficult years. Keeping the club alive by qualifying for the UCL, getting bargains and selling his best players kept the club afloat financially. Arteta got a taste of something similar in his first 2 years when he had no funds. We flirted with relegation before finishing 8th in consecutive seasons. We just couldn’t compete with other teams financially.

If Arsenal finds itself in a similar situation today, I can assure you that we will lose Saka/ Saliba/ Odegaard / Rice and Arteta will jump ship ASAP! We will have to rely on our academy and bargains to even stay alive in the EPL.

I believe Blueray and Sod have spoken most of what I wanted to say, but I just want to ask a question.

When did we finally got over that "period"?
I mean that period of we always paying back for the stadium and not being forced to sell our stars?

To be honest, I feel that Wenger elongated that period more than what it was actually. He was on some kind of comfort zone without pressure as long as he keeps on making money for the owners and keep on making top 4, he's cool with it. I knew how many times then Wenger will be proactive once our top 4 is in danger even if it means going to the market, we can even go on a run of form (2011/12 season is one big indicator) but once we're settled inside top 4, we'll be lax.

I appreciate Wenger for what he did that early years for us but I believe that dark days, he made it more than what it actually was

daveP:
How are we all coping abeg? E no easy

I sha distracted myself with AAG and feem. 8 gold medals in boxing category all in 1 day is mad. One Moroccan opponent even refused to turn up vs the nigerian lady. Walk over medal😂

Lol..
I'm just looking forward to Man City the way little children looks forward Christmas and Easter celebration. In terms of sports, nothing else matters If not football for me

mostob:
Fans can be too passionate sha... Same way they can love you to an extreme, they can dislike you to that extent too

True tho.
So true

Spy360:
That last episode of

Kai Havertz Scores Again ... Jod.era and Iamoy.indamola were hiding from us since yesterday.

No deh disturb me with wetin him do for Germany. I'm not a German fan neither am I rooting for Germany for anything.

When Havertz infamously played Lb this season when he was struggling, I didn't drag you. Anything wey no concern Havertz and arsenal, then e no concern me

mostob:
let's thank God it is all in the past now sha.
As for the beef, it has to do with their attitude rather than the fact that they left the club. Look at the way Adebayor celebrated. Sanchez was our favorite until he started mocking us. That's unprofessional.

I'm so glad we're over that phase reason why I was confident we are on an upward rise last season when most people thought we might falter.

As for Sanchez, I didn't know he mocked us sha. I know of Nasri and the famous Adebayor celebration but then na fans cause some of these things. Most of them (fans) were always insulting these players so it's just a form of retaliation
Imagine fans burning Rvp jersey when he left and was still booing him anytime we played each other (and I'm sure social media insults go follow too). When he scored against us his first goal, he didn't celebrate but the booing and taunt didn't stop.
There's so much some of these players can take sha

mostob:
Four Arsenal players confronted Arsene Wenger after huge stars sold to bitter rivals, reveals Jack Wilshere

Despite that, Wenger maintained Arsenal as a top four club, qualifying for the Champions League for nineteen consecutive seasons between 1998 and 2017.

However, Wilshere says that came at a price, explaining: “Being totally honest, as a group of players we knew that fighting for for the top four was our level.

“Manchester City had just come through, spent a load of money on the likes of Nasri and Adebayor. Manchester United were still there with Wayne Rooney, Nemanja Vidic, Rio Ferdinand.

"We knew that we were always going to fall short.

“It was difficult for me at that time to listen [to the Invincibles comparisons].

"That was going on, but there were never any conversations between players where we questioned why Arsene was coming out with lines like ‘top four is a trophy’.

“I remember celebrating top four as success. It was difficult for fans to understand that because of the Invincibles.

“I remember one of my first pre-seasons and it was the year that Adebayor left, Kolo left. We were in Austria.

"I wasn’t part of the conversations but Fabregas, Van Persie, Nasri, Gallas going to Arsene and asking: ‘What’s going on? Where are we going with the club?’

“During my time at Arsenal, there were always those questions – where is the Patrick Vieira? Where is the Thierry Henry? Where is the Tony Adams? Where are the leaders?

“Especially when we threatened to drop out of the top four, and rightly so. We could have done with someone to grab us in those tough moments.

“While we were losing big personalities, we did replace them. We still had quality players, but were we challenging for the league? Probably not.”

One of Wenger’s most controversial sales was Van Persie to rivals Manchester United in the summer of 2012 for around £30m – one that still stings the Arsenal fan base now.

Wilshere continued: “I was surprised that Wenger let Robin van Persie go. I was disappointed but, being completely honest, that is probably the trajectory that Arsenal were on at the time.

“Robin knew that we weren’t going to challenge for the Premier League title for a few years.

“The reaction from the fans was quite visceral and rightly so. It was understandable. It hurt and there were definitely conversations between players about what was actually going on at the club.

“The hurt surrounding Robin’s departure was more of a personal one, because we knew him so well. He was the captain. He was a good leader and he set high standards.

“As much as it hurt, he made the right choice, because he won the league that year.”

Na why you see me, I no dey ever beef or blame any of our ex players for leaving arsenal during those periods cos I really understand and if it was me, I would do same 10x.
All these hypocrites most guys are calling them, I've never been a party to it even though I understand (in fans' pov) where they're coming from.

It's very annoying for a team to almost achieve success then most of the key players are sold. Very very annoying!!

Imagine this team that almost won league last season. Imagine entering into this season and we sold Saka and Odegaard then strengthen with somehow inferior quality . There's no how other players like Saliba and other core players won't feel somehow.

Ellexy:
It looks like he might stick with ETH seeing he talked about patience.

Lol...
It's two way street.
Most of these people can talk about patience outside yet still sack you the next day.

But we'll just wait and see sha

Ellexy:
Sir Jim Ratcliffe:

“Which team do I want to win the PL title? I hate them all, they are all the enemy!”.

“I couldn’t possibly choose. It would be good for Arteta, because he has done really well and Arsenal have been patient with him”.

Sir JR is a lover of football

iamoyindamola:
Make them collect 10 from city fess
We need breathing space abeg

Lol, I no deh even think about it sef.

All these big clubs get immunity

mostob:
I will be happy o

Lmaooo...
Everybody go happy scatter

You know how long?

airmark:
He has it in him and you could tell in the way he scored that goal. Pochettino is just not the right coach for most of these talented boys.

Sterling should have been offloaded in January by a serious club/coach, to allow the kids thrive.

Well, let's keep on watching.
I know he's good but I don't see him as someone that really has high ceiling. For football sake maybe I'll be proven wrong. Time will tell

mostob:
I just want us to win something this season. It will boost the morale of the players the more. Xabi in his first season is about to carry Bundesliga. Here in EPL, you no fit drink water drop cup.

I believe we'll win something sha but fingers crossed

mostob:
You have said it all. Let me add that the team is still under 'construction'. Like we're still going to add more quality players to the squad o.

As for the spending aspect, if na by spending, Chelsea suppose dey top of the table by now.

Exactly, reason why I said this team isn't even at peak yet.

If na by spendings, people wey suppose top us plenty

BlueRayDick:
Darwin Nunez sef don withdraw from Uruguay team

E be like say na same playbook all the 3 coaches dey read from

larride:
No worry, na here we go both dey when we ruin una title hopes.

BlueRayDick:
The bold is the koko, na wetin dey burst my head pass be that.

One Just need to look at Chelsea and Man Utd despite spending serious money on new signings over the years; look at the jokers they parade as players.

Gbammm. And there are so many examples that abound.

It's not easy at all

BlueRayDick:
But Arteta has really tried for that our backline o. I saw a clip recently where they showed clips from different matches where Mustafi was getting dribbled and causing penalty vs zaha, where musatfi was losing an aerial duel vs Aguero that led to goal, where mustafi played backpass that led to goal, David Luiz doing calamity leading to goal, Mitland-Niles losing the ball foolishly ; etc.

The errors were just so much. The funny thing is the video compilation didn't even span more than 3 seasons sef. It was just the later part if Good ebening's time at Arsenal and beginning of Arteta's tenure.

We supposed give Arteta his flower for ridding the club of those deadweights and actually getting real players that can actually play football.If one looks back, one would see that we were actually on ground zero prior to this period.

If Arteta leaves today, whoever will take over from him certainly has his job cut out for him.

Everything wey Arteta and him crew don do deserve praise.
I know some people might say "oh Arteta have spent money on this team, so what's there" but if anyone notices the trenches were we came from to where we are now, omorr, you'll know that all facets of the game have been genuinely improved and that's something that needs more than money to achieve.

Our players are strong and Fast(we're not easily bullied again)

We play beautiful football

We play dominating football

We're threat at set pieces (both for and against) and we can score all manner and type of goals.

Our fans in the stadium is one of the loudest

We rarely make mistakes

And lastly, we can stand up to any team and have a chance (I mean before we know how our hearts go dey beat once we want to face any strong team)

I know the only thing missing is that big trophies and I believe we'll surely get them but I'm always in awe of how Arteta and his crew have transformed this team. And I believe we're not even at our peak yet.

Lana1:
Over a year now and they still haven't set a court date for City's hearing but they will punish the smaller clubs sharp sharp without blinking

Asin...
Corruption at its finest

No wonder we deh see some of their activities live in referees and Var

Shegzdave:
It’s nothing serious
Read that he has a foot injury

Foot injury is Martinelli oo.

Are you sure you didn't mistake both of them since they're both Gabriel and the other name start with "Ma"

BlueRayDick:
Let's just hope so cos his injury will destabilize that our entire backline.

I swearrr...
But I am hopeful. I checked it and I found out it's an unspecified injury.
Most unspecified injury (during int'l) aren't too serious sha, so there's little hope.

Lana1:
They are docking points from everyone and their daddies this season except for the ones with 115 charges and the other one that spent 1 billion in 2 years

Dem just deh bully small clubs.
See as dem dey punish everyone around them sharp sharp while ignoring the Ogas at the top wey everybody deh see