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A player might be clubless but still attached to a team for the purpose of training
Anyway, I had said "almost as bad as"

tbaba1234:
Well, a bench warmer still has to train daily whether he likes it or not.. A clubless player does what he wants.

A bench warmer is usually physically fit but would lack match sharpness.

A clubless player has to be self motivated to stay at a good level of fitness.

Me I like Siasia's tactical style better. Coupled with a defensive minded assistant and less bias in selection I prefer Siasia to Rohr as crazy as it may sound. Siasia bias pass Rohr own.
Rohr has enjoyed a lot of support. How i wish our past coaches enjoyed such support from the NFF. We probably would have won more trophies by now.

andrew444:
Lol

dont even know what to say

Yes siasia is not that bad

That's a remarkable observation.

markmarble:
Boss one of the major reasons the current U-23 team play a typical 4-4-2 is down to the pairing of Nwakali and Azubuike in central midfield.. Both can act as destroyers and equally make play effortlessly what with their passing range, accuracy and above all effective use of the ball.. This way, it’s easy for them to dominate opponents in the midfield a la ball possession.. This is one glaring imbalance in the Current SE set up with Ndidi and Etebo... The former being a natural defensive shield whilst the latter a converted one,with both lacking the effective use of the ball to exploit opponents defenses when the team is transitioning from Defence to attack what with their lack of passing ability or accuracy often making the transition seem very laborious.. As good as we think they both are ,it’s a seriously flawed pairing that’d Be exploited by more tactically savvy coaches/teams...

But that's almost as bad as a player not getting game time in their clubs, yet still gets invites.

tbaba1234:
Yes.

Siasia is fiercely loyal to his boys. Even when Solomon Okoronkwo was clubless, he still got super eagles invites.

I do not want Siasia near any national team.

Talking about Ubong. He is also a good player. I don't think Siasia was really bad. But the question is would he have kept on to his boys for another 2 years?

andrew444:
Yes

We won brazil with a goal from ubong Ekpai

The truth is EVERY coach has their bias. They are human beings. The question is how bad is their bias?

Thank you.
Siasia would have helped Daniel's development. I remember he was SPLENDID when Nigeria played Brazil in a pre-olympics friendly.

andrew444:
The emmanuel daniel didnt do bad at the olympic, he benched akpeyi or so

No he didn't, but he gave a good account of himself in that very match after he replace Etebo. Don't also forget he went to the Olympics in 2016 as one of our important players. This will be the second time he is in the U23 team.

andrew444:
Zuby didnt even start any of the 2 games, and those games are very crucial

charlesemeka85 can lie for africa

Exactly. No coach has done better in that department.
But it's not like Rorh changed the entire team over time. At least he still has about 50% or maybe 40% of the players he met.
I think Siasia would have brought in a player like Ndidi who has been a full fledged premier league player.. no coach fit play wayo reach that one oh. Ambrose would still have been a SE player. Maybe Amuzie interestingly. Siasia liked that guy a lot. Goal keeper Emanuel Daniel would have been in the SE fold instead of Uzoho.. I just dey guess oh.. I no be Siasia brother o

Earthquake2:
Rohr has sent out invitations to 7 foreign born players, 4 have been successful 3 have not. I think that's the highest in Nigerian football history

But una still want to crucify the man

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Zuby would have justified it I believe. Let's not throw the hammer on Siasia. If you do your research on his squad in that double header against Egypt, you wouldn't see much difference compared to the current team.

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Here are the snapshots

charlesemeka85:
If say na siasia dey coach super eagles the likes of azubuike go don get 100 caps by now

Many people will still argue your first paragraph.
But I agree that Rohr has been relatively fair. I will score him about 85% in terms of getting the players we can easily get. In terms of getting players with dual-allegiance, he's been trying. But who has done better in that dept?

Earthquake2:
This is the first time in a long time that Nigerian players have been given a level playing ground for selection

The players know that your performances is what brings you to the notice of the national team handlers not man-know-man and that is an added motivation

How Rorh take get part? Start the argument now oh.

Earthquake2:
Last season's performance will be a child's play compared to how Nigerian players will perform this season

And nobody should tell me that Rohr has no part in it

Aneke? We have another versatile player in our hands. He just needs to perform in the Championship, and there will be no question about it.

Earthquake2:
Is Aneke a striker?

I think Chuba Akpom is gradually getting back to form

Don't put Zuby and Nwakali in the same box bro lol

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That would be VERY unfair

charlesemeka85:
Bros that's same truth is what I'm saying about azubuike. He is not good enough and not better than the few good ones we have.

He will only get a look in when siasia takes over but with Rohr I doubt such will happen. Him and Nwakali should remain in the u23

is Aneke better than Akpom? We have two "lions in a lower league" here

Earthquake2:
Chiba Akpom scored 4 goals in 5-1 victory over Fortuna Sittard

I think Esiti could still be an option if he can impress Rohr this time, especially as Ogu is near retirement. Esiti brings physicality and is good on duels. But will he impress if given a second chance? We'll never know until we invite him.

andrew444:
Zuby is a central Midfielder while esiti is a pure DM, DM is the only place esiti can play

Zuby can play both, but is position is CM

You are rating Aribo with english league 1 appearance?

hahahahahahahahahaha

Azubuike is more than a destroyer. He has a wonderful passing range. I want to watch him this season though before reaching a conclusion.
Aribo is more like Ndidi, MAYBE a lower grade in terms of tackling and making interceptions. But I think he will offer more in attack.

charlesemeka85:
I disagree the aribo I have watched play is better than azubuike and will offer more to the team that the latter. Azubuike is just a destroyer and we already have an ndidi and etebo who are miles better than him.

Is he better than Anderson esiti who plays the same role as him?

My response above sorry

andrew444:
hehehehe

Azubuike okechukwu

Oh!
Okechukwu is tried and tested in SE, Olympics and even in top flight football.
As soon as he starts playing for Basaksehir, there will be no argument.

charlesemeka85:
Azubuike okechukwu

No be laughing matter. We have a goalkeeper crisis. If the young players are better than him fine, then he can focus on being a trainer. when dem dey train or if Enyeama get match time we go no if the boys be he mate?

do4luv14:
who, Victor ENYEAMA?

What's zuby's full name? let me look up the player

andrew444:
He said the fact there

But please help me ask him why is he speaking badly of zuby?

Because he doesnt like him doesnt mean the guy cant play for the eagles or he should not say the truth

He feels zuby is not good enough for eagles but he feels players from slovakia and co are good enough

Do you agree with that?

We need to start talking football and put sentiment aside, dem no dey pay us money

One word.
TRUTH

charlesemeka85:
Boss which thing? Have others been offered the opportunitu he has enjoyed in the current u23 set up?

Make we leave hype and face facts. He is already 21 and alot of players in his age are doing bigger things.

Kingsley Michael distinguished himself in the serie B last term, chukwueze is tormenting defenders in almighty laliga, bashiru just got signed up by Watford and in his contract he will be involved with the first team with the chances of atleast getting few minutes in the epl very bright.

Aribo all the way from non league football few seasons ago is already doing well in his new club in Scotland. Ofoborh is tipped to get more involved with bournemouth's first team this season and just yesterday started against westbrom in a preseason fixture.

Zubairu is already linked with top clubs in the eirdevisie and Greek side aek Athens but all we here all day in this forum is how talented Nwakali jnr is and how he is the undisputed heir to mikel in the super eagles.

The pampering have to stop so this lad have to get back to work to fulfill his full potentials. Imagine arsenal taking 17-18 yr Olds to their preseason camp while our pirlo was ignored and left in England

ehen. That's the point I was making

andrew444:
Ighalo was almost 27 when he was tearing championship

Goalkeeper trainer AND player

Icon4s:
In the fold as a what?
Goalkeeper trainer or a Player Goalkeeper?

under Pep for that matter lol

TheSuperNerd:
Joining the Drills Club soon?

If Aneke tears up the Championship, he will definitely get a call up. That's what Tega Abraham did to get attention.

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He is not old. How old was Ighalo when he was tearing up the championship?

charlesemeka85:
Oga aneke I doubt will get a call up. He is 26 already and hv been a veteran in the lower leagues of English football. He have to do something extraordinary to get a call up.

Rohr who believes in younger talents will instead prefer giving the likes of Eze and ejaria a chance than turning to a 26 year old league 2 veteran

Glad to see KC score with his right foot. Somebody has been training hard

[quote author=Famocious post=80684154]Kelechi makes it goal number 3 in 2 games.

A confidence booster for the lad ..I'm happy for him

Great work from Harvey and a finish to match from Kelechi 👌#RthLei pic.twitter.com/qDsoL95qTI

— Leicester City (@LCFC) July 27, 2019

Kelechi's second goal of the afternoon ✨#RthLei pic.twitter.com/XkJD9Kae1W

— Leicester City (@LCFC) July 27, 2019

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oga, these are the issues I am looking at.
1. Will they potentially bring something new to the team, considering the void we have in the team position-wise?
2. Will they potentially bring something new to the team, considering their playing style?
3. have they been tested at a higher level recently? Performance-wise how do they fare, even if na just one match or preseason.

Aribo ticks all the boxes above. A player, to me doesn't get automatic rating only just because he is in a higher league. He still has to perform in that league, to get a rating. The season is just about to start, and the only thing expected of a forward is to score goals. Let us wait and see about Aneke.
For Aribo, he is already getting rave reviews in RAngers. Although it is still too early, I can recognize that from his style of play, he could prove a good option. But we have players like Ajayi who is ahead of him. But I consider Ajayi already in the SE set up.

What Chuks was in League two and League one is irrelevant to me. Until he performs as a striker in the championship, there is no talk of present continues performance.

komekn:
Everything should be based on continous consistent top quality performances in thier respective in and league.

By the way you, Eéeeeeee be like sai you contradict yourself. In saying that Aribo is ready for the SE and not Chuks

Because you said the Chuks has not been tested at a higher level implying that Aribo has.

Chuks was the most outstanding player in league one two seasons ago before MK Dons got relegated check his stats goals and assists. MK Dons refused to sell him blatantly after several firm offers from Championship clubs.

He was also the most outstanding player in league two.

He is now in the Championship and Aribo is in a much lower league. Rangers as a club is on league one level England.

So your proposition is contradictory.

the guy no get name? he don't look familiar

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Ozornwafor.
We'll see what his future brings

ChrisKels:
Staying put at Gala(first team) . Already getting kudos from the Gala faithfuls for his displays so far in the preseason. One to keep an eye on.

By end product, the context here is crosses. I think most of our wingers in the current SE struggle with the same thing. The good thing is Chukwueze still has room to grow.

komekn:
I disagree.

Not with the kind of robust physical football played in the AFCON particularly Onyekuru and Osimhen are too lightweight.

Chukwueze is able but has a lot learn with end product.

Aribo is like Ndidi on the left, a little more skilfull but has an eye for goal. That's something SE needs.
Can Chuks do what he is doing at a higher level currently? That's left to be seen.

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Aribo can deputize Ndidi. At least he can bring something different, or maybe more, especially when we are chasing the game.

komekn:
Tell me one players that can do what Chuks does in our current set of players.

Aribo plays almost like the old fashioned enforcer he is similar to Ndidi but drives forward more like Gerard with a decent shot.

Enyeama has already retired. But I think will do us some good if we have him in the fold just to help with the young keepers, Okoye, Alampasu, Uzoho, and Nwokolor

Icon4s:
For me it should be Uzoho, Okoye and Alampasu/any of the U23 goalies going forward. This trio can cope with the challenges of playing Benin, Sierra Leone and Lesotho. We need to start giving them the game time/ experience and confidence.

Any player that we don't think can make the next AFCON and WC IMO should be dropped now.

The strategy should be to use the 2021 AFCON qualifiers, 2022 WC qualifiers and 2021 AFCON to build a very formidable team for the 2022 WC. We should also win enough matches to boost our FIFA ranking so as to stand a chance of being placed in a higher seeded pot and by extension a relatively easy group.

No excuses for Rohr going forward. At least a Quarter Final for 2022WC and 2021 AFCON trophy should be the next yardstick for measurement for him.