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Icon4s:
Ok. Good point.

I agree. But we will be posting the link of the new thread every now and then, so monikers don’t miss out in voting. We know how that our parent thread can be. Voting there would be hard to track especially when it comes down to collation

Icon4s:
If we keep it here it means we have to change the title of the thread completely. And people will have to be flipping from page1 to 8 to look for where the voting actually started.

I still think a New Voting thread is better while we still come here to discuss issues such as publicity of the results, deadline for voting and counting and collation.

I think voting by mentioning the players last name wouldn’t bring confusion. That abc option thing can create room for errors.

Icon4s:
U are definitely going to be part of the votes counting. Due to a foreseeable large number of votes we all are likely going to be part of the counting. We will split it into sections. Like Mr A will count votes from page1, B will count page 2 etc. Then again 1 or 2 persons collate. We will also make the voting process less combasome. Like Eg: 9. Young player of the Year award: a. Samuel Chukwueze b. Samuel Kalu c. Franscis Uzoho. They only only have to do:
1.a
2.b
3.c
4.a
5.b.
Etc....
The easier the voting method the more people will want to be part of it.

Cc: Forgiveness, Safarigirl, Tbaba1234, ChrisKels, Joebie, Komekn

Are the NFF officials more patriotic than they?

komekn:
The difference between me and you, is that speculate and presume on what commitment means or what you think it means.

Can l add l may actually know a lot of the boys and l know thier commitment. However, they are always shocked at the conduct of our NFF officials.

Who often seek personal interest over national interest.

Proff of GBAMACOLOGY

komekn:
You may find this hard to believe.

But I meet boys born and bred in the UK who are more Nigerian than those born in Nigeria. Speaking thier tribal dialects with fluency.

I then meet people who were born, made and cultured in Nigeria and as soon as the land Gatwick. They become more Oyibo than the Oyibo, go deh form fake cockney accent, etc denying all thing Naija.

Then to add petrol to fire, some of them can not even speak thier languages. Can you imagine some can not speak basic pidgin self.

If we are to ask the question what makes you Nigerian or more Nigerian. It will not necessarily be those born in Nigeria.

Who is Victor?

I’ve only spoken facts about Tammy which many of you wouldn’t like for reasons we all know (because he rejected Nigeria in the most bizarre of ways).

When Tammy was firing blanks, I said so. When he started performing, I said it as it is. I will always say it as it is.

If he ever changes his mind to play for Nigeria like a prodigal son, I’m of the opinion we accept him as long as he is a great addition
to the team.

If coach Salisu can return to his post after a one year ban, the case of Tammy given another chance sounds far more
ethical. Tomorrow Salisu will return as assistant coach and you all will never unite to resist it. What moral obligation do U have then to criticize me on my stance about Tammy??

junnyjake:
I've noticed your bias towards Tammy and Victor.

Oga you go need more years of observation

Clementoke:
Match the following monikers on the left with their preoccupation on this thread on the right

1. Forgiveness.................a. English Football
2. Komekn........................b. Foreign born Nigerian players
3. Charlesemeka85.........c. Naija players from a certain tribe

Hahaha it sounds funny sha

tbaba1234:
Mbappe wanted to play for Cameroon and they were asking for bribe from his father.

Nigeria is the proudest country, IRONICALLY.
Even countries wen get better leagues than us no proud. Fix your country then you can become proud of something.

charlesemeka85:
And who told u they re not interested anymore in the youngster?
I saw online few weeks ago that Renard intend visiting him in London for more discussion. Do you know how many times ziyech turned down morroco before he had a change of hrt? Make we no dey form pride wey we no get so I see no reason if we approach them a thousand times and if it works out fine and if we fail they re lots of them to still approach

No, Rohr should invite him and dump Successand Ighalo.

charlesemeka85:
If Tammy rescind his decision n place a call to Rohr for him to be considered for a call up so Rohr should ignore him and rather invite Sadiq Umar?

Nobody has ruled out playing for Nigeria until they are capped by the other country officially . Even Tammy only ruled out playing for Nigeria in Russia

Na sarcasm o

charlesemeka85:
akpoguma have not ruled playing for us out completely but if he has good advisers playing for us seem more realistic than waiting for a German call up.currently he is not being rated by the German football hierarchy and i foresee torunarigha getting a senior cap first before he will be considered by the Germans. he is way below the pecking order but good enough to be a mainstay in our defense line

Thank u sir!

ChrisKels:
Nice job boy, nice job

Icon4s if I’m going to join u in counting the final votes, we will need to enforce the rule that all votes be done in one single post. Modifications only are permitted before the deadline day/time. It was a problem tallying our votes here, talk less of hundreds of monikers in our parent thread.

Modified
We would only count that single post, anything else would be ignored. My opinion though.

He most likely will win it officially. For our thread, all monikers will have tre final say.

forgiveness:
From the look of things, it's almost perfect. That's if Musa wins Nigeria player of the year.

Musa Yahaya prolly wants out to play his preferred role. That WB thing suppose don tire am, knowing his abilities.

We saw him at the U20s. He can’t be finished too soon.

tbaba1234:
Porto B

Musa Yahaya not in the team

Nwakali on the bench but came on in the 81st minute

SF need a new coach that can win us another AWCON

Icon4s:
In other News: The Super Falcons have crashed out of the 2019 WWC.

As regards Iwobi, he has played several times as an AM this year for SE. I think that should be the factor, not where he is placed on the list released by Rohr. The playing is done on the pitch, not the sheet.

Modified
Hence, Iwobi can be nominated for both categories.
I could even nominate Moses in the midfield category based on his exploits as wing-back versus Iceland at the WC.

safarigirl:
they are better because they have won more games and achieved more.


Or, what would the statistics tell you? Or is this award not based on play?


BTW: Is Iwobi a midfielder or an attacker? Because I listed him as an attacker and some of you are listing him as a midfielder and you didn't make any corrections regarding that

I have never seen Iwobi's name listed as a midfielder since Rohr became Super Eagles coach, even though he slips in there at times, generally when the lists are released, he is under "Attack" so, I am confused here. What position does he play?

And is it right to list him as both?

China is not good as they use to be

Princezibk:
Yeah

You mean recent record?

Princezibk:
You are wrong Mr. ,china got a great team...check their records

Exactly. I’m saying I would rather pick SA’s group. Both groups are tough. We should be worrying about how we would perform in our group of death instead of bothering about SA who are in a similar predicament.

daveP:
International journalists are calling our group Group of death. None of the two groups look good to me.


If Dennerby wants to qualify from that group, he should focus on making that midfiel a diamond mine. Too uncoordinated and predictable.

Lol we are talking about World Cup draw for the senior team

tbaba1234:
They are good. They just won the under 20 world cup

Spain female National team ain’t shyt

Alfryd:
what!
with SPAIN no way,there's no way we are going to make it out of that group abeg
I think that our group is OK Bros

I’m saying I would rather have us in their group. Meaning our group is a tougher group IMO.

SlayerForever:
And S.A will fair better against Spain and Germany? And even China? Not likely.

We will struggle against France and Korea. Norway may not be as good as they use to be, but they are not pushovers either. In SA’s group I only see Germany. China is in the same league as Norway.

Our group is a stronger group.

SlayerForever:
Why

I prefer South Africa’s group to ours

SlayerForever:
I'm sorry for the South African ladies.

I think icon is following the usual convention. But I raised a similar issue. When the categories are more appropriately named, there will be less issues. Since men and women don’t play together or against one another, it’s better to have separate awards but equal number of categories. That’s my own opinion.

safarigirl:
it is quite unfair to remove the Falcons from all categories of Nigerian football and relegate them to one measly category, even though they have done more for the nation's football than the male team could ever. Disrespectful even..... But it is what it is, I guess.

However, calling this a "Nigerian Footballers Award" is laughable if it is more of a Nigerian Male Football team award, remembering that the men did nothing this year compared to the women.

Let me modify sha


Troost-Ekong has just one goal for the Super Eagles, can't recall the team and Google is barely helping

Will work on it tonight

Icon4s:
Safarigirl we are still waiting...

Meanwhile Joebie, hope ur collation is up to date, pending when safari drops hers.

Let your league one players come and play in the NNL and NPFL na If them go survive. What of the plethora of players in those lower leagues that we will never ever know. Make dem dey do thier physicality etc for there. They still have to cut it at the top to prove themselves.

komekn:
Why would anybody expect that of Nigerian players to go to lower leagues of English football.

Firstly,, work permit rules wouldn't help matters.

Secondly, not all would survive the physicality and intensity of these leagues. I remember watching Elohor Ekpolo at Fleetwood Town struggling to get games or make an impact. A guy who spent almost a decade at Barcelona and played Barcelona B.

It's not pretty, technical pass and move football. It's not pretty and nice it's blood and guts, he was essentially lost.

Development is about maintaining and developing consistency at a top level. Maybe because in my time l have seen so many players promise and not deliver. So I am usually cautiously optimistic. I rarely hype and if I do there must be evidence over a period.

Ages ago l talked about Mousse Dembele as being exceptional it was alleged l was his uncle. Lol by some here.

Jerome Sinclair was one of the youngest to ever play for Liverpool. I admit that's it's very difficult for a young player to get opportunities in Liverpool. However, if you do your considered exceptional.

Well Jerome Sinclair was sold to Watford for £5 million a few years ago, I never rated him then, now he is struggling in league one with Sunderland

Salah is the next APOTY

How about the Nigerian academies and the grassroots that have produced the likes Okocha, Yekini, Oruma, adepoju, etc?

Those that u have mentioned had to start from somewhere in England - not the Regionaliga etc. Other countries have also produced great players from their lower leagues. It’s not unique to England.

komekn:
The league that the following players leap frogged straight into the EPL from.

Dele Alli, Ademola Lookman, Harry Maguire, Mason Holdgate, Rob Holding, Calvert Lewin, Kyle Walker, etc, etc, are all agricultural players according to your proposition, because they all went from league one straight to the EPL.

The point is many players would not go through your preferred route of lower leagues in England, then the EPL. Many will just have to show that they can play at a high level, which Chukwueze has done. Samu’s route to the top is typical of other Nigerian players born in Nigeria. It’s impractical to expect them to go through the nationwide league, League two, league one, and the Championship to prove themselves.

komekn:
Generally speaking it's very rare for first team players to come from league one, on occasion the Championship.

But we are not England and we don't have many players proven and tested and outstanding in the top leagues Of Europe.

So we don't have the luxury of waiting for them to play first in the EPL before we start engaging them.

Southgate (I mean the actual one) should be farming on the league one then — consistently. Why wait till they make the mark in the EPL?

komekn:
Let me tell you something about lower league football.

You can call it carpenter football or farmers football, it's not very technical but it is fast, brutally physical and intense.

It's very very very hard for a player to play on the deck, technical and skilful football in that league. You will get kicked and dragged and bullied. The referees are not that good and the pitches are not the best. In addition your team mates often want the ball in the air not on the deck.

However, if you can still be a stand out technically proficient and skilful player under those circumstances. I can assure you, when you get to the EPL you will be flying.

That's why Dele Alli could leave MK Dons and straight to first team for Tottenham and same season England senior team. I can give numerous examples.