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Kai.. u harsh o.

Modified
We still need to see him at RB though. Maybe after the WC.

Luckyroro:
When I watched Aina play his first match for GWG I just knew he was over hyped cos he was born and raised in England. To be honest, he isn't really a top class player. He plays like a schoolboy and that's why he may never kick a ball for Chelsea. He isn't good with tackles (miscalculated tackles etc) and he's got no good pace.

No qualms as long as the 23 are “great” eventually.

Agbo has been making the list because of his consistency in the Jupiler league, but never tested. Ajagun should have got that slot based on the same standards, and also considering we have lots of DMs already. I don’t think Rohr has the best men around him. I read how the 30 man list was picked, wirh the others involved.
Trust me, We are going to need “great” backups at the Mundial. I hope it pans out well.

tbaba1234:
See when it comes to these lists, there will always be good players dropped. Many good players did not even make the 30.

An example, Karibe Ojigwe before the 2002 WC scored an outstanding free kick in Lagos but was dropped the next day. He had a good game and scored a goal and was still dropped.

At this point, Rohr already knows his 23 except for maybe 1 or 2 contentions. It will take a great performance to change it. I do not think we got a great performance from anyone.

Yea.. when Aina made his debut I was like ‘Alas! Bye bye Echiejile” but the he has not done anything noteworthy since then. Now we have to pray Idowu does well cuz he is our only hope at LB

safarigirl:
I agree....really saddens me to say

He’s not even been a threat offensively. It’s just that he comes forward more than Echiejile lol

edi287:
If Rohr insists on playing with 2 destroyers, then we might as well use or full backs for width and have Iwobi drift inside from the left. This is where Aina might be better suited than Echiejile

I said “ALSO good for the NPFL”. That was sarcasm because some quarters said his invitation was to satisfy some who believed he deserved it on the back of his NPFL form.If his record is good enough to make the 30 man list and he acquitted himself well when he was tested in a match he does not deserve to be dropped right now. Or are u saying the other players were not also playing to impress? Im sure a number of players needed to put an outsanding show to solidify their place in the team but failed.

I understand all that league comparison stuff.

My point is don’t raise the bar higher for an NPFL player. Since he has already been invited on merit he should be judged by the same standards, else what’s the point inviting him in the first place?

Modified
Some quarters said it was to promote the NPFL at the same time

tbaba1234:
You mentioned before that it will be "good for the NPFL". That was why i said that. His performances should be separate from what is good for the NPFL.

Players performing on a higher level are certainly going to be considered above players playing at a lower rated league. It is not sentiments. The player from the lower league has to do extra to prove that he can perform at a higher level.

If a Nigerian scores 30 goals in Latvia, he is most likely not to get invited to the national team until he moves to a better league and proves himself. There are levels in football.

Fred Friday scored a lot of goals in Norway but the goal output reduced when he went to a better league in Holland.

Football has levels, a player has to show that he is up to the level. It is not sentiments.

Lol

Mujtahida:
Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha @toys. You drive am like papa wey wan rest go drive junior comot from sitting room. And true true I no hear pim from junior again. Neymar jnr

I won’t lie. At this point, I trust Echiejile more than Aina DEFENSIVELY

Modified

Trust me, it’s got nothing to do with that foul near the 18 yard box.

Who is sentimental here? Let’s forget for a moment that he is an NPFL player. I reiterate he was one of our better players yesterday. if I was doing a player screening as a scout yesterday, I would pick him. But the issue here is that the context is World Cup in view. We are all guilty of being sentimental in this regard. Because we all expect he would be dropped because he has not been tested and proven in Europe — forgetting his NPFL goals.
Even Rohr is sentimental for the same reason.
Even if we hear Lokosa has been impressive in camp, we all know he won’t still make the final list.

tbaba1234:
That, i do not rate the league does not make his record (so far) less outstanding for the level.

Lokosa should be judged on his performance not sentiments because he plays in the npfl. The decision should be based on that not because it is good for the NPFL. Our continental performances have not improves after 2014 WC.

There will always be good players in the league but the league does not aid their development or growth. One good player that comes out the league does not fix the serious problems in the league.

Hahaha..

elyte89:
Sir joebie,na lie ,if na true,this thread go scatter

Thank you so much. There is just something about his movement I can’t describe. Is that how he played for Hull City all season? If we had more time we should have tested both Duru and Utin.

Mujtahida:
Casual - that's the word that came to my mind ever since Aina played against Algeria and that's the word popping up in almost all accounts of his game yesterday. Does he really want to play for Nigeria? The passion seems not to be there.

I’m not shocked

elyte89:
S-H-O-C-K-E-R... Mikel,V.mose,Ndidi,Ighalo and Ekong dropped by Rohr,details later from tbaba1234

How is his league record outstanding? I thought you had said you don’t rate the NPFL?! And, It’s not even really a record yet.

Truth is he showed he is a fine player and he made it seem something good can come from the NPFL yesterday. That IMO is outstanding.

tbaba1234:
Yes, he deserves a second audition but right now is WC time, he should only be selected if he is in the coach's plans not because it is good for the NPFL.

He was good not outstanding in the DRC game.. his league record on the other hand is outstanding.

@1st bolded, that’s my point.

@2nd bolded, going by the Congo DR game, if we should also go by what people would say, he shouldn’t be dropped before the London trip. But it’s Rohr’s call all the same.

tbaba1234:
If Rohr already intended to take him, the performance helps his cause but if not, did he do enough to kick out another player? Rohr has watched him train for a week and will be able to make a more informed decision than any of us. Decisions on dropping players are not easy.

I would like to see Lokosa again whether he makes the team or not because he deserves a second audition. I am always of the opinion that the NPFL players has to show what he can do at a higher level (because of the league standard) and he did just that when the opportunity came.

Lokosa got his invitation on the basis of a great league form. It would not have gone down well with many people if his record was ignored.

That’s his opinion of course. But why is he not giving Lokosa another chance against England? Aha!
We can’t use the excuse of Haruna, Ogbeche etc to say no more gatecrashers. If they gonna fool u with an outstanding performance before he World Cup, you may as well not invite them in the first place. Same applies to Joel Obi and Simy.

At the end of the day it is Rohr’s call. But nobody dey force am to drop 5. Who said he can’t drop 3 or 4 instead? It’s all his decision.

Modified
It seems u have forgotten to soon that Lokosa got his first invitation to promote the league. Oh sorry I’m wrong.
hasn’t he proven that his 18 goals is no fluke?

tbaba1234:
That is Victor Ezeji's position. He is not even talking about London, he is talking about the final list.

Rohr has decided on taking 25 players to London. If Lokosa was not already on that list before the match, it means another player has to be dropped to accommodate him.

Iheanacho had a poor game even though he had the assist for Ekong's goal. Can you on the basis of that poor game, drop Iheanacho when you know what he can do?

I think, we need to see Lokosa again in another game but we can do that now or after the WC. I remember Lukmon Haruna scoring and having a great friendly games before disappearing in the WC proper.

Forget sentiments about trying to promote the league, that should not even be under consideration now. The national team is not there to promote the league.

Same Lokosa who drew the foul that led to our only goal. Even if he had scored that header he missed yesterday, many of us would have still said he didn’t wow us. The point is Lokosa deserves to go to London. I’m not even talking about Russia.

By default, we know he is not good enough because of where he plighs his trade. But if I were the coach I would reward his Congo performance with a trip to London. And that’s ALSO good for our league.

tbaba1234:
NPFL Legend Victor Ezeji

” Lokosa didn’t do badly but he didn’t do anything spectacular to show he deserve a spot in the team to the World Cup. As the top scorer in the league I expect him to wow us and that in turn will help his case, sadly he didn’t do that”,

Source: OGN

The best game Aina has had for us till date was his cameo against Zambia. I stand to be corrected

tbaba1234:
It is either Aina or Elderson. Ebuehi is more or less secured.

Ebuehi/Shehu are the RBs

Idowu/Aina/Elderson are the LBs

One LB will go

Well we are all assuming that Lokosa was not in his list, and we all no why.
Rohr already have his reasons why Simy would most likely go to London. Simy showed that he could bring something new to the table. I’m saying even if Simon was not injured, Simy would still go to London. Does Rohr see his performance as outstanding? Probably not.

tbaba1234:
I am saying that players who were not already on the list had to be outstanding not just good to force the coach's hand.

If Lokosa was already in the list to London before the match, then the performance will help his cause. If he wasn't, then he would have needed an outstanding performance to make the coach think twice.

I say good performers. You say outstanding. Simy made a case for himself based on what he can add to the team that was probably lacking before. He would still have made the trip to London regardless of Simon’s condition.


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tbaba1234:
Before yesterday's game, the coach had an idea of who he was going to drop. There were no outstanding performers in my view to change his opinion. Lokosa did very well but not enough to force the coach to review his list in my opinion.

Even Simy Nwankwo's case has been aided by Moses Simon's injury but he also offers something different.

Ok see u after the opening match.. oya carry your toys and run commot

Neimar:
I con blow some steam since I know say naija nr dy go anywhere

You must really feel bored in Barca threads

Neimar:
FC Barcelona

Lokosa was among our good performers yesterday. He may not make the final list, but dropping him now will not be a good look .

tbaba1234:
NPFL Legend Victor Ezeji

” Lokosa didn’t do badly but he didn’t do anything spectacular to show he deserve a spot in the team to the World Cup. As the top scorer in the league I expect him to wow us and that in turn will help his case, sadly he didn’t do that”,

Source: OGN

And what’s that team?

Neimar:
cux I prefer to support my team

Why are u not there? Hahaha

Neimar:
FC Barcelona Youth Team

Musa d 40yr man claiming 24 abi 25

Which team can u break into na?

Neimar:
Ndidi, Iheanacho, Musa, Mikel 're playing for shitty teams.....average teams or even less

even ur goat faced musa cannot break into any elite teams' second 11

Argentina’s 23 man list

Usman Muhammad scores

Not a credible source

olapluto:
I read somewhere that 6 players have been dropped. 5 plus Simon Moses. Ola Aina is reportedly part of that 5.

Hahahaha

Toylove:
Who Dey ring d bell and who Dey blow d whistle

Even your opinion is not an abomination else you would have been banned many times

forgiveness:
So, what is the problem with my own opinion. Abomination, abi?

Given the chance through the back door, abi?

Mikel is a versatile midfielder.

Martz101:
my brother if memory serve me right when mikel took over from Okocha Nigeria fans believe he was struggle in that role for eagles because his not okocha replica.

infact some people place the blame on chelsea for spoiling the once creative mikel, but some of us knew this was mikel and not okocha.

if you can remember keshi place mikel more defensively and played the likes of Sunday Mba in the nations cup and babatunde in worldcup there.

Why the comparison?

Martz101:
and his indirect free-kick and corner are better than v.moses own?

Exactly

Mujtahida:
We will miss S. Moses no doubt. And if you notice he combines well with Vicmo.