₦airaland Forum

Rohr has not been taking decisions as regards the list independently. We heard from the horse’ mouth. This is not an accusation on Rohr.

Modified
I wish I could see the 50 man list lol..

Martz101:
what decision was sentimental, who was there that was not suppose to be there?? please answer.

And don't call Agbo and Agu because he has always like them from the start and every coach tends to like some players the fans don't fancy.

Anybody body truly following this team since Rohr took over should know that this team was legit 95% Rohr list.

Nigerians are never satisfied

Let’s leave Kayode out of it. The selection of the 30 was done collectively. Meaning the pruning down was done collectively. K. Nwakali remains a special talent no doubt. But my question is on the back of what performance did he make the 35 man list?

There is also a strong possibility that all 5 players invited for Atletico were part of the 35. Come to think of it. That team was regarded as our team B, with the “best” players in the NPFL. Wouldn’t it be reasonable to also invite the “best” 5 fringe players, those who barely missed out of the 30, to join them?

Mujtahida:
God bless you realpoacher. This is an answer, very factual rebuttal to forgiveness' claims. You did excellently well and I must say this is a benchmark response. Not that when a person has nothing to say he will just engage in ad hominem attacks.


What Rohr said gave forgiveness something to grasp(personally I don't even see any issues with Nwakali being in the 35 man list) and accuse the coach of corruption but I am happy you have answered him very capably.

Yes as an SE fan he should cheer the team regardless.

Mujtahida:
Abi, before forgiveness had no facts. Now he has a fact that can at least buttress his stance yet he's to be shut down without an answer to his claims. Kog45 is saying there's nepotism but let it be. This is Nigeria after all. My issue with forgiveness is that he will not let it rest. He will cry from now till 2022. It's really tiring.

How is that sentiment?

MetalJigsaw:
Is that not sentiment?

Very predictable

tbaba1234:
Official!!!!

Stephen Eze, Dele Ajiboye , Uche Agbo and Junior Lokosa

Dropped

I have already given my opinion on the 23

MetalJigsaw:
OK. Since its very likely Rohr will pick 6 forwards. There's just a spot left. Who do you see filling the gap?

Moses
Musa
Ighalo,
Simy
Iwobi
? ? ?

Lol.. why pick a player just to fulfil all righteousness? You are not getting my point in the argument.

MetalJigsaw:
Are you serious at all? But Ezenwa, Joel, Agu's invitations are necessary right?

You weren’t following the discussion

MetalJigsaw:
What do you mean since he can't replace Simon? isn't Simon injured?.

Stop judging Lokosa with the fact that he plays in Nigeria in mind. That's ridiculously unfair.

What happened to his rich vein of form and prolificacy in the NPFL and positive display against DR Congo?

What sir Kog45 described is nepotism somewhat. I don't see anything wrong with the use of that word, especially since we know it is ingrained in our system.

Petrobros:
God bless you sir. Words of a wise man. We perfectly understand the various interests associated with players selection which u have highlighted a couple of them unlike someone that the only thing he sees is nepotism.

si

Yes we have to hope for the best regardless. You have spoken correctly

Kog45:
Oga forgiveness i think you have been in this business for so long and you must know better how Nigeria national team selection goes irrespective of coach(foreign or local)

Different interest came into players selection and do not be deceived Rohr must listened to his back room staffs, so what they give him he works with.

I want to tell you that five dropped players from original 35 man list played against Atletico,and one keep on asking why players like Samuel Kalu,Ebere Eze,Peter Olayinka and Ajagun were not called up even if Rohr has seen enough of Nwakaeme,Kayode,Alampasu and Esiti.

Sir this is Nigeria nothing should surprised you,a lot of damn pressure from officials, agents and backroom staffs,bros you should know better,Nigeria factor and it would take an highly discipline coach to succeed.

I remember i was having discussion with Humility017 and i said i know a lot about eagles especially players invitations.

Check Simeon injury issue,an NFF official insisted that Simeon must have another medical check up in London cos he was suspecting conspiracy.This are the pressure a coach face in managing Nigeria national team.

But good things is that Rohr is getting it right by managing the team irrespective of players recommended to him.He gave them the opportunity but if you don't measured up you are out

Sir let's hope for better WC irrespective of players involved cos 2018 w definitely determine 2019 Afcon and 2022 WC.

Rohr had said it since March that he would be releasing a 30 man list in May.. meaning he had a 35 man list prior to the Poland-Serbia friendlies. Possibly that list was pruned down even before he released the 28 man list.
Even in the selection of the 30 he said they took the decision collectively. So really there is nothing more I can say than he has sentimental people around him. And who knows, there could be more things I don't know.

forgiveness:
But you were one of those we believed the coach didn't have 35 man list and you wan kill me untop.

Breeze don blow fowl yanch don show.

Is this not nepotism and na my brother selection?

Can you say Rohr has not been influenced so far based on this?

No wonder the selection of players is tilted.

So far NFF saw it and said nothing, they are part of this corruption.

Truly, if Lokosa really did badly against Congo DR, many would have been saying it was a fluke.

MetalJigsaw:
See? I spoke about this earlier. Scoring goals in such a prolific manner is not a piece of cake. Even in a lower league.

I will have to check sir..

Kog45:
Pls any updates on Injuries in camp,Ndidi,Simeon, Awaziem and Ebuehi? cos a player that would be out for two weeks should be dropped and replaced ASAP,no sentiment.

That's why I've been asking questions. Nwakali in top 35 is a no no.. These players have to earn their ratings based on club performance.. Now more questions, was Usman, Eduok and the other two also in the top 35? Rohr definitely has some sentimental people around him.

forgiveness:
Jesussssss!

Bhuuuhahaha! When I talk say Nwakali dey 35 man list, dem wan chop me raw. This is revelation from the horses mouth.

The bias coaches hid their dubious ways until God used Rohr's mouth to confess him sin. Nonsense.

Imagine, Nwakali in 35 man list?

What did he do throughout the whole season to deserve to be on the list ahead of those who did better than him?

Well, now i know selection into the National team is man know man. The goalkeeper coach, the Chief coach and his assistance are Nigerians and they are his back room staff.

We can see they only call players based on nepotism to national team. GBAM

Breeze don blow foul yanch don show. Nonsense.

I knew this is unusual of this coach not to use the advantage to call 35 players to chop since FIFA allowed. Lol. Chai!

Some people can be mumu for dis country for life. As for me I have learnt alot of tricks and mago mago of our people.

Make I see who go call my theory conspiracy theories. Smh

some of us said 7.. but that was an opinion, not a prediction.

daveP:
wow.ao that's 8 defenders? or 7 as o earlier predicted?

Even Agbo's continuous invitation has been questioned several times. I don't see it happening too oh sir.. but that's why it's MY list

Kog45:
Agbo making it would bring a question mark on Rohr credibility and i don't see Rohr dropping 2010 WC experience and over 50 caps Echiejile or little Aina as back up for Awaziem who has not really exert himself in his primary role in eagles,not possible.

I think injury concerns. Remember Awaziem picked up an injury in camp?

forgiveness:
I don't understand why he didn't play the lad in the last friendly and why he has to test Brian Idowu in the CB during training.

I am suspecting he is not satisfied with his back ups.

I had said Echiejile is better defensively. That's not even rubbishing Aina.

Kog45:
Good talk,this is football talk not guys telling us Echiejile is better,irrespective who Rohr picked between Echiejile and Aina,Idowu is available to do the job.

Respect my man.

as CB back up. Awaziem is left-back back up. We don't have good options, obviously

Kog45:
Joebie,why Uche Agbo

@bolded, why do you think so?

forgiveness:
I don't see Awaziem going to the world Cup based on Rohr's body language but I don't except him to be dropped.

I think both will be dropped.

The Congo DR tie was not his second appearance. Let's not toy with that England friendly.

I'm torn between Joel Obi and Mikel Agu. One of them should be dropped.

nextlevel2222:
I would have preferred Aina should be given another chance to prove himself against a world class team like England on Monday before he is drop. As we all know that few players did very well in congo tie. I believe he will deliver if Rohr play him on Monday. I still dnt believe Echiejile is better option.. Have you forgotten schoolboy error Echiejile use to make. He even did it again against Dr Congo that can make Ref to give him red card in world cup tournament.
After the world cup I would love to see Rohr to try him for RB position who knows he can be better than Shehu and Ebuehi. Just saying ball is in Rohr court.

MY 23-man list

---

Goalkeepers(3): Francis Uzoho, Dele Ajiboye, Ikechukwu Ezenwa.
Defenders( 8 ): William Troost Ekong, Leon Balogun, Chidozie Awaziem (make-shift LB), Kenneth Omeruo, Shehu Abdullahi, Tyrone Ebuehi, Brian Idowu, Uche Agbo

Midfielders(7): John Mikel Obi, Onyiye Ndidi, John Ogu, Alex Iwobi, Ogenyi Onazi, Mikel Agu, [**Etebo Oghenekaro**]

Forwards (6): Victor Moses, Odion Ighalo, Kelechi Ihenacho, Ahmed Musa, Simeon Nwankwo, [**Moses Daddy Simon**]

Etebo replaces Simon IF...else Etebo out.

I think he needs to work on his concentration. He may come better in future.

Naughtytboy:
alright brother,, about Aina i don't see anything special in him, I think the Chelsea thing is just playing in our heads

Hard decisions need to be taken.. Dropping any fringe player is not a hard decision. Dropping one of the players that qualified us is.

Humility017:
I think Rohr is just too desperate to reward these players who qualified Nigeria for the world cup...

any player who is not fit should be dropped....

I think he did well against Zambia though.. but it was only a cameo

elyte89:
From day 1,I haven't seen anything spectacular abt aina as far as I am concerned. Majority here only have soft spot for him based on d fact dt he switched Nationals, not dt, he's a better option to echiejile


Like I av said b4,if aina were to b a thorough bred naija player,he wouldn't av made d 30man list to start with

I prefer dt utin udo to aina self

Lokosa don't have a place in that 23 man list.. let's not deceive ourselves. A midfielder can be dropped. We have a couple forwards who are also midfielders. Simy brings something different we need in the team.

MetalJigsaw:
It should only affect Lokosa's place.

Awaziem would even do a better job as a LB. He's played there for his club. We should drop both players, and maybe consider Agbo as a back up CB lol.. Aina still has a future with SE, he needs to keep working hard.

forgiveness:
Aina is not a LB. He's a RB.

Though I don't trust him for the job now but I think his talent is very obvious.

He plays with more confidence and his passing skill is really good.

With time, he can improve and be like Taye Taiwo who also attack minded but me go go with Echiejile for WC.

Well, I think he should go to London. I mean he deserves to go to London. I don't think he has the qualities of a winger.

MetalJigsaw:
I think he should take Simon's place on the premise that he's versatile.

I said it was said here.. Before now I said Simy would have still made the list to London, regardless of Simon's condition.

modified
Take note that Rorh spoke about Simy's qualities and admitted we didn't have such type of player.

Naughtytboy:
Do you really think if simeon wasn't injured with the performance simy showed he wouldn't make the team? Your thought.simeon's injury did nothing to simy's chances

It was said here that Simon's injury also strengthens Simy's case.. Simy was never going to replace Simon, since he is not winger.

@bolded, that's the point.

Naughtytboy:
what I meant was, we have our two point men already even before the match against Congo reasons being that simy coming into the picture, exposure and home based factors played against him even before the match .simy can't play as a winger so he can't replace Simeon due to his stature maybe.

how is this relevant to what I just said?

CaptainStephen:
Actually komekn has a point, he has always advocated we tryout more players in other to select the best. we would have been on both elderson and aina's case if we didn't try out idowu.

Rohr: How I Selected My 30-Man World Cup Squad; Why Nwakali Missed Out
May 25, 2018 5:14 pm

https://wwwcompletesportsnigeriacom-xzvtxvtv.stackpathdns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/rohr-insists-on-strong-squad.jpg

By Kayode Ogundare in Uyo:

Coach of the Super Eagles of Nigeria Gernot Rohr has explained how he came about his provisional 30-man squd for the World Cup and also revealed why teenage sensation Kelechi Nwakali was not included.

“It (the list) was not of my own making alone. I have backroom staff, including the medical team and I gathered all of them in my house. We looked at the players one by one and asked what qualities they have, and how they will complement the other players,” Rohr explained during a media briefing in Uyo on Friday.

“Of course I looked first at the players who were with us for the qualifiers but then I also looked at other players who have done well for their clubs. That’s why you see players like Junior Lokosa who is doing very well in the Nigerian league and Simy Nwakwo who had an excellent season in Italy.”

The German-born coach also revealed why Nwakali was not in the squad. Football fans had queried why the former Golden Eaglet star was not included, particularly after he put up a five-star performance against Atletico Madrid in last Tueday’s friendly international.

Rohr said: “Nwakali is a good player. I knew him before now and he was in my list of 35 players. We had a team of 50 players which we pruned down to 35 and then 30. By the time he played against Atletico, we had already submitted the 30-man list on May 14 and the game against Atletico was on May 22 so it was too late to include him. He’s in my plans and definitely he will be invited after the World Cup.”

Rorh also hinted that new invitees Lokosa and Nwakwo will get the chance to prove their mettle in Monday’s friendly international against Congo DR in Port Harcourt.

“We will see them on Monday and hopefully they will make a case for their inclusion with their performance against Congo DR and even if they don’t get to be selected, they would have learnt valuable lessons from training with the team. But I have been impressed so far with their performances,” he said.

--CSN