Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 1:37pm On Dec 02, 2017 |
laughable.. The world cup is 6 months away. These teams will just stay the way they are without tinkering or watching our clips, interesting! ChrisKels: From the desk of Ayo Akinfe. The very first time I took him seriously.
We are not under rating these teams but as a realist, Croatia and Argentina can't sit the Eagles
Croatia:
[1] By the time the World Cup starts, this will be the ages of their star players: Luca Modric -32 Ivan Rakitić - 30 Mario Mandžukić - 32 Nikola Kalinić - 30 Ivan Perišić - 29
[2] Croatia will not be able to deal with our pace
[3] By the time Croatia attack, we will have had defenders back in place
[4] Croatia relies on slow methodical build-ups
[5] Croatia do not have the legs to deal with our swift counter-attacks
[6] Domagoj Vida theior Dynamo Kiev centreback and rock alongside Dejan Lovren, does not strike me as someone who can handle say Moses or Ighalo
[7] Ivan Strinić, their leftback who plays for Samdoria is 30. How will he gallop up and down the flanks at the same rate as Ebuehi?
[8] Croatia are not a high scoring side. If you look at their qualification, most of their victories were 1-0 affairs. They were just lucky to have Kosovo in their group, who they beat 6-0 away, boosting their goal aggregated
[9] From what I can see, Croatia, Ukraine, Iceland and Finland were all equally matched in their qualification group
[10] I can see Croatia struggling to break down a stubborn Iceland defence Argentina
[1] Argentina have been crap for the last two years now. See how they struggled in their qualifiers.
[2] Argentina have a chronic problem at the back. Otamendi and Mascherano are too slow to cope with quick attackers.
[3] Upfront they are fine with Messi, Aguero and Di Maria but their defence is leaking goals. They simply do not have the legs to cope with counter-attacks.
[4] I do not see how that will change between now an June unless two top central defenders emerge and the coach has the guts to drop Mascherano and Otamendi.
[5] Argentina play with three at the back and simply cannot defend balls down the channel
[6] I have watched most of their World Cup qualifiers and can tell you now that no one in South America fears Argentina. Our 4-2 victory just confirmed what has been going on for the last two years.
[7] Can you please tell me how things will change. Which defenders will you bring in to replace the ageing Zavier Mascherano and the slow Nicholas Otamendi?
[8] Against Nigeria, Germán Pezzella, the centreback who plays for Italian club Fiorentina, on loan from Real Betis, made his debut alongside Otamendi and Mascherano in the back three. Of the trio, only Pezella looked like he could cope with the pace of Iwobi, Iheanacho and Idowu
[9] I do not see Sampoli dropping the ageing Mascherano. His tactics have left a lot to desired. I doubt he has the guts to be brave
[10] By the time we play Argentina, I believe they will be out of the tournament
We gotta be sanguine because right now, we ain't that bad. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 1:31pm On Dec 02, 2017 |
Just as many Nigerians are upbeat about our chances, while others are fretting, Likewise Argentines. We can't make any generalizations from a couple quotes. Maybe you should do a survey or something. ChrisKels: I will provide u guys a link to what the Argies are saying about this group. They are fretting even worse than some us here. Take this for instance ;
"Nigeria has been pretty solid for a while, cruising undefeated through the African WCQ. Plus, they did beat us just two weeks ago, regardless of whether or not Messi played. Strangely enough, they are unexpectedly THE MOST STABLE TEAM OF THE FOUR at the moment."
locoxriver |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 1:29pm On Dec 02, 2017 |
@ Mickael2 Why are we crying over Enyeama?. He is already on the road to recovery. Let's see what happens between January and May. I will never shift my goal post. Performance at club level will show a player deserving for national call up. Then performance at the battlefield should show a player is deserving of selection for the WC. Rohr has already said Enyeama will have to start playing at the club level first before he will get a chance for recall... shekina! mank1234: Even players on bench who are not scoring should be called too since they trained with the team and would have been scoring if they were paying them. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 1:16pm On Dec 02, 2017 |
Ehen! soetanoreoluwa: It happens to us before n it can happen to any team that didn't do their home work well..
When was the last time we qualify for AFCON? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:05am On Dec 02, 2017 |
If Rohr selects Martins for the WC those who have been against oldies, are you going to commit suicide? make we let this matter rest either way it goes. At the end of the day let's hope Rohr picks the right players whether young, oyibo, homebased, old, EPL based, Indonesian based, Warri based etc to prosecute his match plan. And that the players play their best as a unit every match. We are behind the team regardless, and we cannot influence Rohr's decision just as we can't influence his pay. goldfish80: You're still taking about that friendly game? Look, we must be careful oh otherwise 2002 will repeat itself all over again.
Recall in 2002, we massaged our egos about going to the world cup with the youngest team. Even before the world cup, the team broke the Irish jinx by becoming the first team to defeat Ireland in Dublin for over 20 years if I recall, solid game against Paraguay with the infamous Ogbeche bicycle kick and a couple of other victories against Scotland and one other team. We basically played the world cup before the world cup. Unfortunately, when the main event came up, we learnt the hard lesson at the mundial. I mean, we nearly lost 3 games on the spin.
Make no mistake about it, the Argentina game is now in the dust bin of history. I get livid that we still make songs and dance out of the Atlanta 96 fame. We cannot keep stroking ourselves with that result. We must strive to get better thank goodness Gernot Rohr recognised this by not limiting his search within a particular circle.
I laughed when you made reference some pages back about Martins probably holding the team back due to a lack of pace. I laughed because just a fee years back, Martins was rated the top 2-3 fastest player in the world. You could say he's aged and the speed has dropped but I tell you after watching him sprint past 3 defenders in gear 2, to score last week I knew the guy still has it. Also, I must bring to your attention the case of Justin Gatlin. You do realise this guy, the current world 100 meters champion is 35yr old, a good 2 years older than Martins. This guy can sprint past any teenage athlete you throw his way. This should tell you it's not about age but ability.
If you stick your head out that Victor Moses will outpace a 33yr old Obafemi Martins, you will wake up one morning and discover you're a dead man. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:46pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Bad surprises also happen. I’m just saying TheGoodJoe: It will not be our turn in Qatar. I see an upward trajectory in the development of the Super Eagles. However, I do not support or like mockery. We have bigger fishes ahead with the coming friendly games and the World Cup proper to worry about mocking teams that did not qualify. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:43pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
No. Actually everyone who thinks it will be a continuation of our World Cup qualifiers thinks so. Surprises happen but not often. Nigeria will qualify as long as we take every game seriously and not underrate any team. Things get dicey at the knockout stages. Let’s take it a game at a time and stay humble whizola: Am I the only one thinking this Nigeria top the group Iceland's finishes second |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:38pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Enough of the mockery. That’s too petty. It might just be our turn in Qatar to miss out. It’s time to focus on Group D, not on a non-existent Group I soetanoreoluwa: Are you looking for group of death..? Here you find it.. Group I |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 9:20pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Iceland and Croatia are familiar foes as well. shogz89: CROATIA IN SUMMARY |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:15pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
It’s a great thing we are playing Croatia first. I think we will have best chance beating them that way. And hopefully we seal it up with Iceland. Argentina last.. great! |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:09pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Because Nigeria will go through as the surprise team. Icon79: All the clowns on Fox Sports are picking Argentina and Croatia to advance out of the group. About 6 people on the panel and none of them picked Nigeria to go thru.
Clowns on TV 
O pari |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:05pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
We will pay dearly if we use that friendly match to rate Argentina. soetanoreoluwa: Ex international and Super eagles players dashing out words |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:02pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
True. It has to go both ways. Icon4s: Friendlies are a two way thing. You must also be attractive to your opponents in friendlies.
Colombia are playing Senegal, they would want to have a meeting with us in a friendly. They would also be a good South American test in preparation for Argentina.
Brazil are not playing any African team so Nigeria will not be of interest to them.
Poland is playing Senegal, so Nigeria would be attractive to them. They would also be attractive to us in preparation for Croatia and Iceland.
Germany are not playing any West African team and so Nigeria may not be attractive to them. Although Rohr may just influence this but it will not be of much benefits to Germany. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:01pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Serbia is more similar edi287: Rohr said we'll play Serbia for Croatia. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 5:31pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
I will recommend the toughest possible similar opponents for friendlies.
Brazil for Argentina Germany for Croatia Poland (small but unpredictable team) for Iceland |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 5:26pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Any team but Iceland can top that group. Not underrating Iceland though. I think they al have a fair chance Abusule007: Nigeria can top their group |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 5:19pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Germany will go through but not without a tough fight. Geestunnar: Here you have it folks. The groupings for Russia 2018 WC
Group A: Russia, Uruguay, Egypt, Saudi Arabia
Group B: Portugal, Spain, Iran, Morocco
Group C: France, Peru, Denmark, Australia
Group D: Argentina, Croatia, Iceland, Nigeria
Group E: Brazil, Switzerland, Costa Rica, Serbia
Group F: Germany, Mexico, Sweden, South Korea
Group G: Belgium, England, Tunisia, Panama
Group H: Poland, Colombia, Senegal, Japan |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 5:16pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Spain may be the team not to go through. Stuffs happen. edi287: Morocco can beat Portugal if they're serious. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 5:15pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Very similar teams, 3 of them, considering the dual nationality of some of the Moroccans I don’t think we have an actual group of death. We just have a couple tricky situations. solonnachi: Morocco will find it difficult with Portugal and Spain. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 5:11pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
We can beat them again.. as long as we don’t underrate any team and we don’t fear any team we’d be fine oloriooko: Argentina will now show its true colour  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 5:09pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
It can easily be that kind of group were 3 teams finish with 6 points. Very tricky edi287: Our group is low key the group of death. I hope Rohr doesn't underestimate Iceland. As it is, Argentina and Croatia are favs to qualify. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 5:08pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
As long as we take every game seriously, we’d be fine. Underrate none KevinDein: Croatia is the bigger headache of the two European teams. They have too much quality; Modric, Perisic, Rakitic, etc. Genuine world class players playing for the very best teams in Europe.
It's a tricky group, but not an insurmountable challenge.
And, oh, Iceland would be the whipping boys |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 5:06pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
You want both at the WC? COOL10: . Reread my post,and you'll see I said I want Martins back but not at the expense of Iheanacho meaning I WANT THEM BOTH. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 5:04pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Actually our group is the trickiest of all the groups. I’d rather be in Morocco’s group. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 4:55pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Argentina Iceland Croatia Nigeria
Wow Argentina again |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 4:14pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Do you honestly think Martins will knock Iheanacho out from the team? All of you for or against Martins, trust your players that they will win the battle in the battlefield. COOL10: . Anyone who disputes Iheanacho's contributions to the team definitely doesn't know what he/she is talking about. I strongly want Martins back but definitely not at the expense of Iheanacho. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:41pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
As Agali tall reach. Na wa o tbaba1234: New boy, Maduka Okoye with Victor Agali... I guess Agali is doing his job of looking for players to fill weak positions.
The boy is taller than Agali. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:07am On Nov 30, 2017 |
Firstly KC got a work permit for the EPL by means of the special player clause. Very few of our players if any have qualified with that clause. The fact is KC showed huge potentials. That’s not a hype. Secondly, he continued from ther under Pelligrini in the EPL. No hype. hardwerk: i feel like slapping all of you shouting Ihenacho like he is a messique player ...the guy no good walahi and for that reason him seat belt for leicester bench will be casted in iron ....useless overhyped player with mouth like gutter looking like a garden hoe |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:04am On Nov 30, 2017 |
Good.. so no excuses for KC edi287: He played on wing in a 4-4-2. Okazaki and Vardy played as strikers |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:43pm On Nov 29, 2017 |
Nacho is not that kind of player yet. No coach is going to build the team around him. He will have to adapt wherever he goes. Modified Where did Mahrez play yesterday? edi287: As long as Leicester are playing a 4-2-3-1 / 4-4-2 with Mahrez behind Vardy, Nacho is going to have a very difficult time breaking into the first 11. When it was Okazaki playing as a second striker, I wasn't too worried as i felt Nacho could bench him as the season progressed but now Puel has decided to play Mahrez as a 10, tell me how/who is he going to bench?? People are easily writing Vardy off like he's Heskey or something...look at his numbers and tell me any sane would just drop him like that for Nacho? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:28pm On Nov 29, 2017 |
That’s Rohr’s call Abi are we the ones that helped him build the chemistry in the first place? He knows what he is still looking for. Taliban: Correct man!!!!!!!You deserve a big calabash of Palmi!!!!!
But on a serious note if anyone will jeopardize team chemistry and team bonding, let them stay away. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 11:11pm On Nov 29, 2017 |
I’ve said it before if you are performing come and fight for a shirt #TeamPerformance. Rohr doesn’t necessarily have to look at a player’s past SE performance. This is Rohr’s SE, he will call up whoever he thinks can play to his philosophy. And if he thinks Martins can, let him come to prove it.
CC Safarigirl and all those who are against call up of the “oldies” |