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Exactly! invitation is done based on need.
Some of us talk as if coaches look at the playing history of all the players to make a selection.
I think it's all about what is needed that particular moment. And if the player called doesn't live up to the expectation he won't be recalled.
Which is why I kind of understand Kayode's exclusion.
Kayode will have to keep working hard to earn another call.

Humility017:
moreover iwobi,mikel and etebo can play the AM....role...nacho to an extent..
though I won't play etebo and nacho as AM had it been I was the coach

Sometimes I wonder how many championship players get called up by national team coaches. Your measurement of the quality of the English second tier is subjective. I said it before that I don't think Rohr has a high opinion of the championship. Of course we know very well that Aina was with Chelsea's main team when we started the push for him.

Anyway I could be wrong, but don't forget that most of these lads you are clamoring for need to make a switch first. Not like they can be called up right away. So why the noise?

The question remains are there other Defensive Midfield options out there? Azubuike Okechukwu, the younger Nwakali, and Ramon Azeez comes to mind. Of the these, none are clearly ahead of Chidiebere. It's not about who get's the chance first, it's about who grabs their chance with both hands. Hence, there is no cause for alarm.

komekn:
This is not club football it's the national team you don't scout players you select players according to the evidential basis that is presented by thier individual performances in thier club. The national team is not a proving ground it's a testing ground to replicate your club performance at National level.

That is further assessed by the quality of the club and the quality of the league you play in. The position of the club and the circumstances within the club. i.e. number of world class players in the club that the player is contending with, number of games played, mitigating circumstances, etc

That's why we have bench warmers in top clubs that leave and become stars in lower clubs and or leagues. Or vice versa drop a league or clubs because thier quality does not match the league quality.

I wouldn't class Tega Onomah as a defensive midfielder he's much more of an attacking midfielder. Nonetheless, he is rated as the best young midfielder in the championship and fifth best according to transfermarket.co.uk ( I do not consider these assessments asconclusive)

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/marktwerte/wettbewerb/GB2/plus//galerie/0?pos=Mittelfeld&detailpos=10&altersklasse=alle

The subject matter is fluid and subjective and so I regard them as indicative. But it's indicative of Tega Onomah's quality don't forget he anchored England to win the U20 world Cup, that's a very big accolade of quality. The U20 world cup is not just a youth cup like the U17cup. You have experienced players from top clubs and top leagues.

It's somewhat more difficult to assess the quality of a Midfielder with statistics because the variables are really too many. The type of football played, team strategy, etc

Football is not rocket science it's still largely simplistic
best players play in the best leagues and the best teams.

Do you think a national team coach in Europe could pick a player in very low rated league and team. Without clear cut justification and evidence for all to see. Why do you think it's almost impossible to see a championship player in the English national team.

How many obscure players in very low level league do you see invited to the German, French, Dutch, Belguim national teams. I would say never and impossible. In the name of scouting answer, NONE.

Let me put you in Rorh's situation. You have your scouts and you tell them you are looking for more defensive midfield options. You have looked at Agu, Ogu, but you want to see a player that scores crackers. Your scouts go to work, who will they recommend?

My point is you don't know what Rorh is looking for at every particular moment. The building of a team is a gradual process. We should expect maybe more new names in his next invitation, depending on how the team has taken shape and the qualities Rohr wants to add.

Muazam is not an LB. Rohr already has the LB covered with Ebeuhi and Aina available.

Oasis007:
Sir Tbaba1234, I have deep respect for you on this Thread, same goes to few Monikers as well but you ain't being objective on this Nwakali Issue.

Do we need to bombard the Team with too many DMs.... Ogu, Agu, Onazi, Ndidi, Mikel etc?! Muazam should have made the Team instead of Nwakali cos he's a regular Starter for his Club, remember he's signed directly from the Nigeria League.

Mickael2 has made a valid Point that justifies his Inclusion in the Team - that he's a versatile Player that can also play as a LB comfortably and I think we should take it like that, since Echiejile was left out due to Injury.

18 or 17, how does that remove from my logic?

My point is you expect Gernot Rohr to compare Nwakali now to Azeez then. That's ridiculous!
Azeez was called up then.. No foul play.

Nwakali just got called up for his recent performances, no foul play.
It's simple logic.

forgiveness:
Chidiebere Nwakali is 21 years this year. How can he 17 years old 3years ago?

Ramon started playing in LA liga 2 at just 19/20 years of age. No excuse .

Ramon Azeez deserved to be part of that team because he played regularly in LA liga for two seasons.

Chidiebere Nwakali failed woefully in LA liga 2. He couldn't perform atva higher level than Norway.

I presumed they want to use the national team to boost his chances of getting visa in UK. Just the same way they did for Ndidi.

somebody is speaking my language: a lot of things can happen between now and then.

tbaba1234:
A lot of things can happen from now till the world cup. Players like Sarenren Bazee, Brian Idowu, Omeruo, Kayode, Success etc will still fight for a world cup place. I expect a real battle for the 23 slots.

I'm not in support of the Musa call up sha.. but truth is we can't expect the list to go our way 100%. I think the list is a very good one..
I give it 90%.

daveP:
What of that standby na? no Larrykay sef... im watching the Nwakali in 10D!!

I'm beginning to think that the richest man in africa is his agent@the 3rd Nigerian at Leicester.

He didn't get to play a game. But that was 3 seasons ago. hmmmm

forgiveness:
Chidiebere Nwakali was a failure in LA liga 2 but some people want me to believe otherwise.

exactly why I've ignored him.
comparing Nwakali 3 years ago when he was barely 17, to a 24-year-old's achievement now..

Abi was Rohr even the coach 3 years ago. But he believes it's the NFF.
Wasn't it the same Azeez who went to the world cup in 2014 under the NFF's nose? Was he not rewarded then for his showing with Almeria?
I don't even get his argument.

safarigirl:
I can't believe you guys are actually responding to forgiveness and his childish tantrum ....

Has it not already been established that he is prone to having mouth(finger) diarrhoea whenever Rohr releases a list that doesn't have players like Kayode, Ajagun, Ilori and Solanke on it?

Seriously, no be every disturbance una go dey flash torch for

Analyzing The New Super Eagles List: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly
16 mins ago by Bryan Efe

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At first glance, one will notice that Super Eagles coach, Gernot Rohr stretched his list to 25 compared to the 23 players that were invited for the all important Zambia World Cup qualifier tie in September. Let us take a look at each department as well as the standby provision, to determine what has changed from the previous invitation. I will also explore possible reasons for the inclusions and omissions.

GOALKEEPERS:

Stand in Super Eagles first choice goalkeeper Ikechukwu Ezenwa returns, as well as the ever present Daniel Akpeyi. However Deportivo la Coruna’s new safe hands, Francis Uzoho, is on this list in place of Ayodele Ajiboye of domestic side Plateau United, who was in the previous.

Ajiboye was rumored to have given a good account of himself during training leading to the Zambia tie but failed to get the nod to feature. Gernot Rohr rather, kept faith with Ezenwa for Zambia.

It is noteworthy to state that Francis Uzoho’s maiden call up was a well deserved one. Francis had risen quickly through the ranks from Deportivo Fabril to the first team in a short period of time. He posted a shutout in his debut for the senior team and barely missed out of a Whoscored Man of the match recognition, with 4 saves and 2 claims. After two solid displays in the La Liga, he is clearly way ahead of his Europe-based peers, Dele Alampasu and David Nwokolor who are yet to feature for the main team of their respective club sides. And also considering that self-exiled Super Eagles former captain, Vincent Enyeama has been sidelined for quite a while, Uzoho is the only Nigerian goalkeeper who has played recently in the top 5 leagues of Europe. Forgotten Israel-based Dele Aiyenugba

Omitted: Ayodele Ajiboye
Verdict: Good

DEFENDERS:

The list of defenders for the coming Algeria and Argentina matches is identical to that of the Zambia list, except for the inclusion of Tyrone Ebuehi, who was pulled off from standby to replace injured Elderson Echiejile.

Tyronne who is yet to make his official debut for Nigeria, having only featured in an unofficial friendly against Corsica in May, can play also at the left back of defense. It’s high time he got cap-tied.

With the appearance of another left back on the standby list, it seems Super Eagles regular, Elderson Echiejile will now have to start watching his back.

Omitted: Elderson Echiejile (injured)
Verdict: Good

MIDFIELDERS:

Here comes the second beneficiary of the two extra invitation slots, Chidiebere Nwakali! Coincidentally, another member (Uzoho as well) of the U17 World Champions, 2013 class. Kelechi is signed to current English Premier League leaders, Manchester City. The 20-year-old defensive midfielder is currently on his third loan spell, having had spells in Girona and IK Start previously. Failing to appear in the La Liga 2 as at then, Nwakali’s move to Norway two seasons ago put his career back on track. With 4 goals for IK Start from 24 appearances in only his first season, he was courted by several clubs in Norway, before he settled for Sogndal. Nwakali currently has equalled his goals tally from last season after 26 matches, and has gotten two Man of the Match recognitions from football statistical website, whoscored.com.

Despite the relative low rating of the Scandinavian league, Nwakali have given a good account of himself there, and have scored breathtaking goals.

Omitted: Nil
Verdict: Good

FORWARDS:

Injured Chelsea wing back, Victor Moses is conspicuously missing, and Anderlecht winger Henry Onyekuru, takes his place. Onyekuru needs no introduction. He painted Belgium with goals in his debut Jupiler Pro League season, and have continued from where he stopped as he is now the highest Nigerian goal scorer there with 6 goals, after starting slowly. Considering his eye catchy performances in the ongoing UEFA Champions League as well, it is no surprise that he was handpicked by Rohr to replace Victor Moses in the wings.

Omitted: Victor Moses (injured)
Verdict: Good

STANDBY:

The special list reserved for those that could get called up in case of emergency, has a new look. Dele Alampasu, Aaron Samuel, Afeez Aremu, and Ifeanyi Ifeanyi are all missing. In their place are Alhassan Ibrahim, Kenneth Omeruo and Russia-based left-back Brian Idowu.

Omeruo and Alhassan were missing from the previous standby list perhaps due to Rohr giving them time to settle down in their new clubs.

The missing home-based duo, Aremu and Ifeanyi, were mostly used for training in the past, and it would be out of place to invite them now because of lack of game time, considering that the domestic league has been on recess.

One may fault the exclusion of Girona’s forward Olarenwaju Kayode from this list considering that there are no strikers in standby. While the main list is loaded with forwards that one may be tempted to wonder, who Kayode will displace, a provision should have been made in case of any casualty. And having a forward in the mould of Kayode who’s latest exploits in the La Liga cannot be contended, I will have to admit his exclusion is a poor decision by Gernot Rohr.

On Brian Idowu, the coach’s inclusion of him seems to be a mere formality, but to send a message that the defender is still in Rohr’s plans. Alhassan, on his part, has already played under Rohr, so a place on standby this time around, should keep him calm.

Omitted: Afeez Aremu, Dele Alampasu, Aaron Samuel, and Ifeanyi Ifeanyi
Verdict: Bad


Source: SpotKik
http://spotkik.com/2017/10/30/analyzing-the-new-super-eagles-list-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly/

Some Nigerians just dey fool themselves.
Airport way to go.. better than showing off anyhow with exotic cars etc.

kingphilip:
Savage reply

Rohr calls Mikel, Musa, 22 others for Algeria, Argentina
By The NFF
Updated: October 30, 2017

Captain Mikel John Obi, forward Ahmed Musa and midfielder Ogenyi Onazi top the list of 24 players that Super Eagles’ Technical Adviser Gernot Rohr has invited for next week’s 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifying match away to Algeria, and the prestige friendly with Argentina in Russia four days later.

Goalkeepers Ikechukwu Ezenwa and Daniel Akpeyi also made the cut, as well as defenders Abdullahi Shehu, Leon Balogun and William Ekong, midfielders Wilfred Ndidi and Oghenekaro Etebo and forwards Kelechi Iheanacho, Alex Iwobi and Odion Ighalo.

There is a first call for impressive Deportivo La Coruna of Spain safe hands Francis Uzoho, as well as former U17 World Cup winner Chidiebere Nwakali. Russia -based Brian Idowu has been placed on standby only for the friendly with Argentina.

2013 AFCON winner Kenneth Omeruo is on standby for both matches, alongside former junior international Alhassan Ibrahim, who now plays in Austria.

All invited players are expected to arrive in a camp in Morocco on Monday, 6th November, before the delegation flies to Constantine on Thursday, 9th November.

On Saturday, 11th November, a 45 –seater chartered aircraft will fly the Super Eagles from Constantine to Krasnodar, the Russian city that will host the international friendly against Argentina on Tuesday, 14th November.

THE FULL LIST

Goalkeepers: Daniel Akpeyi (Chippa United, South Africa); Ikechukwu Ezenwa (FC IfeanyiUbah); Francis Uzoho (Deportivo La Coruna, Spain)

Defenders: William Ekong (Bursaspor FC, Turkey); Abdullahi Shehu (Anorthosis Famagusta, Cyprus); Tyronne Ebuehi (ADO Den Haag, The Netherlands); Leon Balogun (FSV Mainz 05, Germany); Uche Agbo (Standard Liege, Belgium); Chidozie Awaziem (Nantes FC, France); Olaoluwa Aina (Hull City, England)

Midfielders: Mikel John Obi (Tianjin Teda, China); Ogenyi Onazi (Trabzonspor FC, Turkey); Wilfred Ndidi (Leicester City, England); Oghenekaro Etebo (CD Feirense, Portugal); John Ogu (Hapoel Be’er Sheva, Israel); Mikel Agu (Bursaspor FC, Turkey); Chidiebere Nwakali (Sogndal FC, Norway)

Forwards: Ahmed Musa (Leicester City, England); Kelechi Iheanacho (Leicester City, England); Moses Simon (KAA Gent, Belgium); Alex Iwobi (Arsenal FC, England); Odion Ighalo (Chang Chun-Yatai, China); Henry Onyekuru (RSC Anderlecht, Belgium); Anthony Nwakaeme (Hapoel Be’er Sheva, Israel)

STANDBY: Kenneth Omeruo (Kasimpasa FC, Turkey); Alhassan Ibrahim (FK Austria Wien, Austria); Brian Idowu (FC Amkar Perm, Russia)

ANS trying to debunk OGN's report as regards Aaron Samuel

hahaha.. Thanks for the words of caution before the post.

Mujtahida:
Hurrayyyyy Uzoho. Rohr's scouts are working it seems.
Owngoalnigeria.com I tire for una matter.

I think the only thing Musa got over Onyekuru is experience and goals he's scored for SE. Apart from that, in style of play, Onyekuru is a more effective Musa. And considering that Musa is finding it hard to get game time in his club, there is no justification for his inclusion in the team. He is simply hanging in there based on past glory and a WCQ assist. Just as Rohr did in the case of Musa Muhammed, he should be advised to make a move for playing time.

Mujtahida:
It's not on a lighter note ooo. Seriously there's strong contention especially from Onyekuru if he replicates his club form in the GWG for Musa's place. I really was Onyekuru to pose a serious stake for that RWF position so that Iwobi can move to the centre. Let Moses, Musa and Onyekuru battle it out for the RWF.

LIKE FOR LIKE COMPARISON

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Pius VS Awaziem

wonderful point.
Which is why i'm of the opinion that we need to build a relationship with them, so they will feel more Nigerian. So when their careers pick up,
it won't be awkward for us to give them a call up then.

Mujtahida:
Yes we need to catch them but at the same time we can't just indiscriminately call any player whether Naija born or foreign born. In fact with the foreign born we need to be even more circumspect because if we cap them under the idea of 'catch them young' and they turn out to be flops don't you think the British press for example would have a treat deriding us and making it difficult for others to make that choice? With Naija born such risk does not exist. This thing calls for some measure of discernment in being able to detect those who have great potential.

If we were a honest Nation, the NFF would have her own scouts but unfortunately we are not cos if dem create scouts now na wuru wuru players wey pay money go full our team.

Not in this one. Just a timely report. The SE spokesman was quoted.

Goke7:
looks like someone has been reading nairaland sports forum after all!

ok let me check them out. But the news I had posted seemed legit.

Mujtahida:
You know that day it wasn't score Nigeria I wanted to write but sport villagesquare.com run by Kunle Solaja the most capped Nigerian, World Cup journalist

Dele Ajiboye says he will grab Eagles chance with both hands, dreams return to Spain
By admin - October 30, 2017, 9:13 am170 0

The No 1 goalkeeper of champions Plateau United Dele Ajiboye has told SCORENigeria he will literally grab his chance with Super Eagles just as he revealed he will hope to return to Spain to continue his pro career.

Ajiboye could be presented his chance in next month’s matches against Algeria and Argentina after he has been part of the Eagles squad recently.

The former Shooting Stars shot stopper has represented Nigeria at U17, U20 and Olympic team levels and said he also hopes for his Super Eagles breakthrough.

“I will be delighted to be called up again as I am also looking for my opportunity to feature for the Super Eagles and I hope to grab it with both hands,” he told SCORENigeria

“I cannot wait to get my chance.

“My club have resumed full pre-season training and besides that I also do personal training in the evening.”

The 27-year-old ‘Aji-boy’ revealed that his other target is to return to Spain and continue his pro career after a short-lived stint there with lower league Pontevedra CF between 2009 and 2011.

“I would really love to return to Spain,” he said.

“I previously played in the lower league, but even then the standard was very high and it was my performance in Spain that earned me my call-up to the Olympic team.”

By Kola Daniel in Jos
--ScoreNigeria

you're welcome bro!

Mujtahida:
I've seen your reply. Thank you

Ehen no problem

forgiveness:
Hahaha! Because I tried looking for him but he was nowhere to be found.


Now, I know better. Thanks anyway.

Rohr won’t pull off any surprises in 25-man Eagles squad, team off to Morocco Sunday – official
By admin - October 30, 2017, 9:53 am182 0

Gernot Rohr will not pick any player outside the pool of players he has been working with for next month’s matches against Algeria and Argentina and the team will begin training camp in Morocco on Sunday, officials have said.

Nigeria face Algeria in an inconsequential 2018 World Cup qualifier on November 10, before they take on Argentina in a friendly four days later in Russia.

Eagles spokesman Toyin Ibitoye disclosed the team’s training camp will open on Sunday in Casablanca, Morocco, and 25 players have been picked with two others placed on standby.

Ibitoye said there will no surprise call-ups by Rohr as he will work with the pool of players he has been working with over the months.

The squad will be made official today.

“We should not expect players who have not been in the pool of players the coach has worked with,”Ibitoye said.

“There will be 25 players called up with two others on standby.”

--ScoreNigeria

alright

Modified
didn't know until now about the profession part. But i've replied.

Mujtahida:
I sent you an email. Please check and respond.

I think we are now suffering from the absence of news. Let me go searching.

Azubuike has played every game since Yeni's promotion, until he got injured. He was sidelined for about 4 weeks. I remember posting in my Super Lig updtate that he picked up an injury October 1st or so. He just got back to training with the team.. no dey lie

forgiveness:
It seems NFF are monitoring this lad. He has played all the matches for Lugo this season from start to finish and Lugo is currently topping the league.

Instead of people clamouring for Azuibike who is currently chopping bench in his club, I will rather go for Ramon Azeez.

with all due respect sir.. why are you trying to start something?

PurpleHouse:
Personally, I am beginning to have some disgustful feelings towards some folks here. I mean, com'on, how can you guys be clamouring for the recall of old men whose time have passed as far as the super eagles is concerned?

These young lads qualified us for the world cup without the services of Martins and the likes. I love martins, very much. But i feel we don't need him and his likes anymore. There were times when i would have campaigned for their recall myself, but those days are long gone. We don't need distractions at this stage when we are rebuilding. We have enough fire power to beat any team with determination and teamwork. So all the agents and paid ass lickers here (no offence), pls bury this idea of Martins and his likes. We are Re-building a solid team right now, we are not REPACKAGING old cargoes.

Thank you Opariliously!

u sef.. i no know how u be for real life oh. but i dey suspect say if mama send u to go by crayfish for market, you go return super late, after u don argue with plenty people for road.
this old legs debate is past.. ignore and move on.

forgiveness:
Martins was part of those who qualified us for the world cup. So, it is normal to include him on the team if he performs better than the ones we have.

LIKE FOR LIKE ? COMPARISON

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Agu VS Onomah

LIKE FOR LIKE COMPARISON

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Echiejile VS Idowu

I don't know.. reason for the question mark after I mentioned Agu.

komekn:
Agu Mikel is he better than Tega Onomah

possible

Napoleon55:
pls o,is it possible that this guy is 16yrs

He looks solid with both feet.
Deserves to be in the SE fold. Will he grab his chance with both hands?

tbaba1234:
Nwakaeme's goals


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gorOu2p5cMo