₦airaland Forum

Pavarottii:
It has to be FFK or Lere Olayinka. But Lere has a job already. FFK will murder d job. He will be very dangerous against APC. APC will be scared wen they know it's him sef.

Like seriously? You expect the APC to be scared of a kiss and tell political prostitute? I don't think so.

TonyeBarcanista:
God forbid FFK.... we have young guys like Lere Olayinka, Demola and co that would do a better job

Of course, glad you can see the PDP is still following in the corruption and retardedness that sent them packing in the first place.

But I'm surprised you're not thrilled, one would have thought you'd be happy seeing that your brother in political prostitution is still relevant, in the scheme of things, as regard the disgraced and corrupt PDP.

skarlett:
you're a member of the vaseline crew, you don't need it

LOL. Says who? Why use vaseline when one can have cheap protection with cheap pussy_ LMFAO.

DarkforLANICKY:

L = lOVING

A = ARDOR

N = NIGERIAN

I = INDOMITABLE

C = CALM

K = KNOWLEDGEABLE

Y = YOUTHFUL


LANICKY for MISS NAIRALAND

Like seriously? Jason Vorhees

skarlett:
Igbo kwenu!!!Una head dey there

And that's why it gives cheap protection. LMAO.

Laveda:
Nothing bad about it

And yeah, they still pose like that.. I've stopped though

I'm listening to Beautiful Liar right now.

freecocoa:
You are still starting, lemme know when you finally like me.

LOL. I see stringing me on is your forte, hmm.. Me likey.

freecocoa:
This country is a joke.

See opportunity to seek asy, make this girl no dull mehn.

You know, as the day goes by, I'm starting to like you...

[quote author=freecocoa post=45130840]Yea right, like you can't choose how your society influences you.[
/quote]Yea you can, when you've attained old age, but when you're little, you're easily influenced.

Nah, there isn't, cross them all you want.

I'll pay it gladly.

Hmm, now, he's not homophobic, he says.

Oh I never said I was homopbobic did I?

Yea well, some other animals do have sex for pleasure and animal sexuality is instinctive, so apparently, sex is a lot more than the need to procreate.

Yea, true that, but never forget, the need answer to ones instinct when sexually arouse might still lead to procreation.

No, humans have sex because it is a basic instinct, this tells us that sex is not all about reproduction because, whether gay, bi, straight, trans, we all have this instinct, including people who can't make babies.

Of course sex isn't all about reproduction, but I'm sure you know what usually happens when we cave into our instincts.

It doesn't matter whether you like me or not.

Well answer the pm, so I'll know for sure if it matters of not.

Well, Africa practices/practiced polygamy a lot, you can't blame me. Polygamy causes a lot of imbalance as there is one unmarried man for every polygamous bride taken by some other man and since women aren't enough to go round, girls are married off early.

Yea right... Still an interesting theory.

A woman is forced to share her man/role as a wife, thereby making it easy for a man to ignore one wife if he falls out with the her, instead of working things out, forcing her into mostly giving into the views of the man.

So its wrong for a woman yo give in to a guys views? Seriously? Lol.

Women in polygamous marriages are mostly there to make babies and cater to the need of the man, no time to develop themselves, like a woman with a good job and life will leave it to go be second wife to one man? I must say, polygamy promotes intellectual laziness.

Is this according to the West? Doesn't sound west to me.

Polygamy promotes jealousy and hatred as there is always the need to outshine the other wives and children, this can drive people to do things they ordinarily shouldn't.

As is with polygamy, the man is the one who wins, as he gets to take a wife, whenever he is no longer attracted to his first wife, probably cos childbirth has left her worn out or saggy in some places.

Polygamy messes with people's emotions and well being, all these and more are why it is rightly discouraged.

Wow! Didn't know marriage is about winning and loosing.

skarlett:
Shiva is not in mortal combat

I know you didn't play Mortal Kombat, so I understand.

skarlett:
LANICKY for MISS NAIRALAND


•Y'all compared to Lanny is like Orijin to Vodka/Will Smith to Mr Latin or Seriki to Usher/
Lanny is sweeping all these oysters/when she raises the broom like APC SUPPORTERS/

•Lanny is a steep attacker/Y'all just parking the bus . . .Lanny got that Tiki Taka/and she's the leading Alpha/plus she got y'all in her web . .. . . Lanny is like PETER PARKER

•Lanny ain't childish like Gambino/and she comes in ghost mode. . . Olamide and Phyno/Y'all are just paper tigers. . . .and bunch of bumbling kiddos/Lanicky is the special one. . . . .call her JOSE MOURINHO/

•Lanny is prime and pruned/sublime and true/her IQ is Da Vinci and Einstein's times two/

•She's lord of the rings like Frodo/and in this Mortal Kombat she's known as Gorro[/[b][b]/Shiva
she's armed and deadly. . .face covered in black. . . .FADEYI OLORO/

Wrong!.

freecocoa:
Yea yea.

LOL. There's no harm in trying, is there?.

freecocoa:
It doesn't matter where I live because, humanity, exceed places.

Aye, indeed it does, but still, where you live will definitely affect your sense of reasoning, thus, "your environment influences you", Which influence your humanity, thus making you exceed places.

What if I like you? I guess we'll never know.

Well there's no harm in keeping my fingers crossed is there?

You've been telling me your laws on hömosexuality (which are drawn from religion/culture ) hömosexuality should be gay, now if you are not cultural or religious, why support such laws?

On the contrary, I don't support such laws, I was only speaking from the perspective of the typical nigerian man, who is religious, as he is traditional.

I don't know how you arrived at procreation, being the main reason for sex, I mean, people starting having the urge/need for sex, before they are ready to procreate, then there are people who don't want to and shouldn't procreate

Well humans are animals, and the reason why animals have sex if for procreation, our ability to think and reason, which makes us higher animals, made us see sex as something that doesn't necessarily have to do with procreation alone.

Oh! You didn't like me but think I should like you and accept your pm? Yea right.

Oh my, I never said I didn't like you, did I? Nooo I doubt it, probably a misconception, so why don't you answEr the pm and see if I like you or not?.

Children are being forced into marriages, women are being mistreated and so many other ills that come with polygamy.

I believe your premise is based primarily, on the africa culture and religious laws. Why don't you tell me the ills of polygamy using the West as your premise.

freecocoa:
It's a law between two people, sorry you can't see it.

Now that's opinion, but it still doesn't stop me from trying...

freecocoa:
Because I shouldn't, my relationship with a certain someone doesn't allow that, the laws governing that relationship says so.

Well then, can you show me where the laws said so?

freecocoa:
Well, we'll see.

Indeed we shall.

Again, ain't nobody shoving nothing down ya throats, live and let live.

hOkey dokey.

You kept making reference to me, like you know I'm not Nigerian, I am Nigerian and the people people involved in homosexual activities I know, are more than enough evidence but hey! It's Nigerians we talking of, I've never seen a more hypocritical bunch.

You're a Nigerian, living in Nigeria? Or you live abroad because the influence of the white man I sense in you.

And if I don't like you?

And what if you do?

Of course you won't see the difference, your hypocritical culture/religion won't let you.

My culture, my religion? Perish the thought! I'm no way religious as I'm in no way traditional, heck, I can't even speak my own language edo, so what makes you feel I'm blinded by religion and culture?

Even your holy books agree that hömosexuality, transcends different races, as does history.

Whose Holy Books? Mine, I don't have a Holy Book. Lol.

Now, the only reason for sex is procreation? And I though I've heard it all.

Heck No! And thank God is not the only reason, but you'll agree the main reason for sex is for procreation? The fun of sex I relish like a well prepared dish, such as you.

Mugabe is a crazy old tyrant, like Obama is gay. Pfftt

Hmm, I love the sarcasm... I'm starting to like you..

But people are being hurt.

How are they being hurt?

freecocoa:
The idea that humans have such fundamental rights as human beings, transcends all jurisdiction but are reinforced in different ways, within different legal systems.

I'm not allowed to kiss you.

Why? Who and what law say you're not allowed to kiss me?

freecocoa:
My opinion isn't law alright but it all starts with an opinion, don't conclude in haste.

Haste my ass. you'll have to wait in vain and witness the futility of your opinion.

Perhaps it's irrational because you don't want to be reasonable?

Perhaps its irrational because you're shoving your opinions down people's throat.

But everybody in Nigeria doesn't agree on this, plus it's starting to look like more Nigerians are involved in homosexual activities than they like to let on.

How do you know this? Can you give evidence to back up your claim?

I like to be reasonable so I tend to hold onto my reasonable reasons, if you calling being opinionated, what can I say?

What can you say, you can say you like me and answer your pm.

People borrow cultures everywhere, heck you borrowed his culture more than he did yours, example, your two key religions, the jokes on you my man.

Heck! We didn't borrow any thing, it was shoved down our throats because 'he' brainwashed us into believing our culture is archaic and primitive.

But what you think is safe isn't, it is dangerous and barbaric, I don't see the difference between criminalising hömosexuality and killing twins.

Same way I don't see the difference between accepting homosexuality and criminalising polygamy.

I'm saying, being gay transcends culture/tradition, it is something that happens everywhere, so you don't handle issues relating to it based on your cultural and religious tenets. It is a human race issue, not cultural, so you can't say being gay, is a white man's culture.

It happens everywhere base on the white man's way of influencing everything he does not like and agree with. Homosexuality can not be a human race issue because it has always been a man, and a woman, coming together to reproduce. It natural for a woman to make love to a man, conceive and give birth, but its unnatural for a man to give birth, have you ever heard of a man who gave birth?

The society where bigamy is illegal, understand that there is need for that law, that is why it's there, the US doesn't force people not to practice bigamy in their different countries if it is allowed. I don't see how I can explain why a man shouldn't have the choice of marrying two women again, ugh

The society where homosexuality is illegal understands that there is need for that law also. The U.S has been criticizing african countries that criminalize homosexuals. I never thought I'd ever say this, but "thank God for Robert Mugabe".

Because he can decide to be who he wants to be, so long as he isn't hurting anyone.

True that! So let him have his right to marry more than one wife, so long as he isn't hurting them.

freecocoa:
The courts, after looking at facts on ground.

Oh, I guess the facts are universal and generally accepted every where in the world?

Fundamental human rights are regarded as a set of legal protections, in the context of a legal system, where this system is based on the same set of basic fundamental and inalienable rights. This set of rights without presumption, apply to all human beings under such jurisdiction.

Jolly good!. Now kiss me and stop debating...

skarlett:
you didn't have to quote me to campaign for your candidate

And you don't have to spam people mention to campaign for your candidate.

ValerianSteel:
For one Nigeria is not a theocratic state,Officially she is considered Secular.I have to use the court marriage which is sanctioned by the Nigerian Statehood through codified laws that govern the institution of marriage passed by the Nigerian parliament and upheld by the Nigerian judiciary.

And did you bother to ask where this 'codify' laws that are sanctioned in statehood were gotten from?

freecocoa:
It's not the same thing and quite frankly, I'm tired of going in circles trying to explain simple logic to you. How does abusing a minor and two consenting adults having sex compare? I know both are a crimes in Nigeria, I am only telling you that one shouldn't be.

Now I get you, you're giving your opinion. I see. Then permit me to tell you that your opinion will not be taken into consideration, as it is not law.

Having freedom of association doesn't mean abusing a child, abusing a child, qualifies as a crime, because there is a "child" involved, a child cannot make decisions for himself, that is a sensible and just reason to criminalise child abuse. Or you going to ask me why a child shouldn't have the right to make decisions for himself too?

How can a child make rational decision? Just like how can a man shagging another man's butthole be rational to us, and that's why it is criminalized. Hope you get me, we don't reason like you guys do!.

What is people's business with what two adults decide to do with their lives? If everybody over here will agree on the law being fair, why are we having this argument? Why are so many Nigerians gay?

Same way it isn't any bodies business what three or more adults decide to do with their lives.

If everybody here in Nigeria admits that the law is fair in criminalizing homosexuality

, how/why is it your business to say the law is flawed, after all, your democracy which we copied advocates majority carries the vote.

People beat people up, of course, but it is nonetheless a crime , yet can be excused depending on circumstances.

I'd have kissed you for this, if not that you've been too damn opinionated.

Ain't no government going to India to tell them to quit polyandry anyways, neither do I see the US coming here to tell you not to marry more than one woman, and yes, they gave you good reason why you should let people be gay, you just don't want to see reason because you are blinded by so called religion/culture.

There reasons can never be our reason, how do you expect one to reason with someone who have no culture or traditions, who revel in celebrating other people culture as their own. Lol.

The law of bigamy discriminates against more than two people being in a marriage.

Oh! But that's the problem, there is no way it can be proven beyond every reasonable doubt, that consent wasn't influenced by religion/morality and I can't believe I have to reiterate this, some policies are beyond simple morality, this is one of such policies. The only way to be safe, is make a union between two people, so it is fair.

Last time I checked, there is no crime in one being influenced by his culture, religion or even tradition, every one is influenced one way or the other, just like we were influenced into wearing shorts and mini skirt

So the only way to be safe, is to adhere to what one deem safe. Not listen to foreigners.

Hömosexuality is not about people's ways of lives or culture, if is about our humanity as a race.

How is homosexuality about a people's way of life and culture, how is it about our humanity as a race? When all it has to do is "sex". Mind you, culture/tradition goes way beyond sex.

There is a good reason, why it's not best for three people to be in a marriage.

Over time, it has been proven that monogamy is better and yes, polygamy has done a whole lot of damage, it will just be a waste of time, we arguing about it.

Be that as it may, what right have you to stop a man who wants to marry more than one woman? Its all his choice right, and the choice(s) of the women involved.

I suppose you can explain to me why a man will wake up one morning and decide to turn himself into a woman, or why he wakes up one morning and decide he is gay.

ValerianSteel:
You are a manipulator of the truth.

While we all know of the preference your country gives to Sharia law which allows multiple wives,the other marriages are the traditional marriage known as Customary marriage and the court marriage.

If you read the highlighted portion of my last post to you,you'll clearly see that the court marriage doesn't recognize or give credence to a customary marriage entered before or after the court marriage is instituted.

Excuse me, I'm not a manipulator of any truth, okay, amidst all the types of marriage we have in Nigeria, why did you use court marriage as a yardstick to base your premise on? Why didn't you use traditional and religious marriage? And you dare call me manipulator of the truth? Abegi bros. Chill for corner.

ValerianSteel:
You lie man.

This is your Nigerian Marriage Act.

www.nigeria-law.org/Marriage%20Act.htm

(d) that neither of the parties to the intended marriage is married by customary law to any person other than the person with whom such marriage is proposed to be contracted.

You should know in Nigeria, we have three types of marriage, christian and moslem (religious), traditional and the court, unlike the West that have just court.

So, show me where the nigerian marriage act, specially said bigamy or polygamy is a crime? Knowing fully well about the three type of marriage in Nigeria, Just like it specifically said, homosexuality is a crime.

ValerianSteel:
You guys like to manipulate the truth?First I would ask you this,what does your Marital Law in Nigeria say?Am not talking about your Religious islamic marital system,the legally recognized marriage by the Nigerian State,the court system type of marriage.

The truth? The truth according to whom? Who did you arrive at this truth? What parameters did you use to arrive at this truth? What are the mental assertiveness of the people who arrived at this truth?

The court system here allows a man to marry more than one wife. I've witnessed it hand in hand. The court here recognizes polygamy.

What do you have there?Is it a union between two persons?What happens when one party violates this union with a third party?Does your courts approve of this?Is the new union sanctioned by the law?

I guess No is your answer.

We have here, the union between two or more person who are, a man, and two or more women. If a man decides to violate this union with a fourth party who he is not married to, any of his wives can file for divorce, it is sanctioned by the court.

Favolly:
What, are you now an NL police that tells people how to unlook? If I choose to unlook after commenting, how e take consign you biko? Ehn, I will look before I leap because NL don employ police? Ko si wahala

I didn't even throw any shade to start with, I merely made a passing comment. If you saw it as one, that's not my problem. I am only responsible for what I say, however anyone chooses to interpret it is not my business

Okay, I give up, happy now?

freecocoa:
Go abuse a minor and tell the courts, freedom of association means 'doing whatever you like'. How does this even make sense to you?

Yep, its the same thing I'm talking about, when you abuse a minor, you have the court to answer to, when you have sexual relations with your fellow man or woman, you'll still answer to the courts.

Freedom of association as meant by me, means freedom to associate with who, or whatever you like, you can choose to associate sexually with whoever you like. But when you associate with whom the courts tell you not to, you'll have to answer to the court.

And I already explained to you, why you can't marry more than one partner, such marriages can prove difficult for the law to handle, should the need arise, therefore it is safer for everyone to meet at a common ground, which is considered fair.

Its the same reason here, marrying your fellow man will prove difficult to handle as people can't assimilate why and how on earth a man will choose to marry his fellow man. So, should the need arise where a man can marry his fellow man over here, I'm sure everybody involves will meet at a common ground, which might be considered 'fair'.

I don't know what videos you are referring to, but I do know that it is a crime to beat people up.

Yes it is a crime to beat people up, that doesn't stop people being beat up does it?

While it it her decision to want to marry one or more men, she cannot, because such decisions can't be proven not to stem from religion/morality and I have told you that, some policies go beyond simple moral reasons.

I believe you've heard of polyandry
? There are some cultures which promote and encourage polyandry, now of what business is it of yours to come and tell them that their culture which have existed for years, is flawed, without giving then viable scientific reason to back up your claim.

It is not in the least bit skewed because the law on bigamy doesn't discriminate against anyone, gay people can also commit bigamy and the face the law if they do.

The law of bigamy discriminates against a man who wants to marry more than one wife, same way it discriminates against a woman who wants to marry more than one man.

What makes it okay for a man to marry a man, is that two people are involved in the marriage, the law recognises a marriage between two people and in bigamy, more than two people are involved, this can pose as a problem to the law, hence it is criminalised.

What makes it okay for a man to marry more than one woman is that three or more people are involved, with consent. The law here recognizes a marriage between a man and more than one woman, this doesn't pose any problem for the law here, hence it is not criminalized.

Your ways are your ways like I said, what gives you the right to point fingers at another man's way and say it is flawed?

You are the bias one for not recognising that, that two is different from three or more.

Two is different from three, but as long as those three decided to leave together, what business is it of yours to stop them?.

Of course anybody can be polygamous but because it is safer to be monogamous, social contrast is applied. Pray tell, what harm does hömosexuality cause to a society?

How do you know it is safer to be monogamous? Social contract is mostly applied, what harm has bigamy done to the society? Over population right?