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UbiPetrus:
Wrong in your opinion.

Not just in my opinion the evidence are there.

I will not cry

this people playing with others life

I dont know much about the phones

[/color][color=#006600]Atheism is believe born out of frustration and by questioning answers. People who has being depending on God but come year in come year out no answer. They are forced to ask question about the existence of being they have been praying to. Atheism is also born out of logical reasoning.

Please think something else.

There are many wrong teachings in catholic church. Believe me many....

NwanyiAwkaetiti:
Just like a forgot my shoes in a cab yesterday

Ah sorry. So you walked home with barefoot

lazy Nigerian youths ;Dlazy Nigerian youths

Na waoo for this Nigeria transfer market.

Shelumiel:
I do not think Satan is trying to fight God ; I think he is only try to prove a point to God .

Please which point

[quote author=Fegelfire post=65876103]Do not be afraid of text-walls, folks. Text-walls online are what loudmouthed bellowers are in a debate in real life - they try to overwhelm you with voice or information so that you will lack the preparedness to poke holes in their arguments. This is no different, a loudmouth defending his belief in god based on pre-conceived rhetorical notions. I will now proceed to dismantle his post.

Come now, class, let's use reason and deduction to break down this overwhelming Christian rant piece by piece. Yosh!:



Correct. The planets, their solar systems, the galaxies and ourselves are the result of a 17 billion year long set of physical and chemical reactions, beginning from the big bang. There are numerous theories in modern physics and cosmology as to the spark or what came before the creation of the universe, all of which involve high-level scientific and mathematical concepts, such as general relativity, and none of the credible ones involve a sentient superbeing.

Indeed, I could ask you the same question about god. If the universe had to have "come from someone", then where did that "someone" come from? Where did god come from? Was there a mommy god and a daddy god? If god just "happened" or god is "eternal", why can we not apply this same logic to the universe?

And overwhelmingly, how would this divine superbeing have any connection to the god of the Bible or the god of the Quran, who is most surely a matter of myth and fable and not of reality?



That's part of it, yes.



Ad Hominem.



Yes, as there is no scientific evidence for any special realm that people suddenly wisp away to after they perish, and there never will be because heaven and hell do not exist!



Here you are presupposing that a maker exists at all, and that we are "more intelligent" than it (Does god have a brain? a nervous system? Some similar data network?). That makes you the fool here, my friend. I will again invoke Karl Marx, founder of Communism, who says "If people are to know and understand the real world, they must give up superstitious beliefs because they have a narcotic effect on the mind." Your belief in god is drugging your mind to the point where you cannot differentiate his existence from the scenarios of critics in which he cannot exist.

Note that the entirety of the rest of your argument rests on the assumption that god is absolutely real, and simply focuses on atheists "going astray" for personal reasons as opposed to tackling their real criticisms of your faith and of the existence of a god. This is a dishonest argument.



You think you can read the minds of people now? Letalone the minds of the majority of the hundreds of millions of atheists on the planet? Now who's being 'foolish'?

We don't know god exists. That's why we're atheists, duh!



This was the impetus for some atheists in ancient times, such as the ancient Icelandic Viking Hrafnkel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrafnkels_saga.
But the criticisms of the existence of a god stem from far more than that, including a lack of evidence, more reasonable explanations and heavy skepticism regarding the creation of the universe, as well as the concept of a "being" with a "mind" who can "shape" the universe - god - being a human-centric idea, trying to explain the wonders of the cosmos using human activity and characteristics, and does not reflect the real functions of the universe as has been observed by countless cosmologists and physicists. And also the arbitrarisms of religious beliefs and laws in Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, etc. which have NO proof of their legitimacy and who's followers (Christians, Muslims, etc. especially Muslims recently) violent, nasty tendency to bully and force these beliefs upon others.



This is no longer an argument. It's just you running with your disingenuous claim that atheists are really god-worshippers (Christians?) who hide their faith, and throwing more ad hominem insults.

If anything, studies claim that people who go through traumatic experiences are more likely to be religious, as can be seen by the strong connection between atheist/irreligious countries, high standards of living and high education (with the exception of China, which is very different from place to place).



Again, at this point you're just mouthbreathing. You haven't put forward any other arguments for your god's existence and are simply ranting about the same two dot-points:

I don't judge u being an atheist but let me tell you something what ever u see happening have both the surface and the deep. What u normally see is surface. You don't actually know what is behind science.PLEASE DON'T LET SCIENCE FOOL YOU BECAUSE IT OBVIOUS THAT SCIENCE HAS BECOME UR RELIGION. ME MYSELF I AM SOMETIMES CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE .

In conclusion, you have not provided any evidence whatsoever for the existence of a god, and in fact have not even attempted to hypothesize a scenario in which a god cannot exist,

explorer250:
yeah. I got admitted into the department of agricultural engineering in futo in 2014 and I will be in 400 level by January next year but the problem is that I can't continue because I never loved the department from the start.

i am having nightmares and feel very sad anytime I remember that I will be graduating as an agricultural engineer but I wanted to study electrical and electronics engineering.

initially I thought that I could manage the course and maybe change department in my 200l but things didn't go as planned. I have seen that the course I am doing is intolerable to my nature and at this point I can't continue with it.

I am seriously considering to write jamb next year and study Mechatronics but I know that my parents will be mad at me and disappointed. but this is my future and I don't see how Beng in agricultural engineering will help my life.

So please do you think that it is a good idea for me to start from the beginning?

Which universities in Nigeria is doing mechatronic eng..

This is a case of "the the devil you know is better than the angel you don't know". Next election we shouldn't vote blindly or history will repeat itself.