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mama-gee:
[color=deeppink]No homo please. . .

Two men can't go on a date unless they are both gay. [/color]

lol. i go out all the time with one of my male friends all the time. Does that make us gay? I dont think so.

Yeah, multiple entry visa is wat you need. U might apply for it at the nigerian embassy but theirs no guarantee that you'll be issued a multiple entry visa. U'll have to show that you'll be travelling to Ghana from nigeria and then back to Nigeria from Ghana before returning back to England.

he can only get a K-1 visa in nigeria and trust me, US embassies in Nigeria hardly issue k-1 visas to nigerians and this is one of the reasons.

u dont need a visa to transit through any European airport is you hold a valid unexpired US visa.

mike oscar:
Demonic and disgusting!

we've heard that before. Wat else u got?

oyewolejos:
@Poster.I wont hide anything for u at this point.The only solution is that u get married to a US citizen as soon as possible.Since u have your I-94 with you, a US citizen can file for you to become a Permanent Resident.I know previous contributors are trying to shy away from this.There is no way u can go back to the school without first going to Nigerian then re-enter which is a mission impossible cos anytime u decide to go back to 9ja and try to re-enter they will definitely deny u entry cos of your previous immigration history.Though my advice might sound criminal but that just the way around it.People might castigate me for this advice but he who hasn't sin should cast the first stone.I cant put on the Holier than thou attitude.

Just my honest opinion.

haha. Am not an advocate of marriage for convenience.

twinkle87:
@ JohnKent abi na JohnC*nt: thats my own personal opinion! it irritates me!!! seem to be one

Now ur making fun of my name. not funny

ChinenyeN:
*sigh*. . . very sad, but to each his own I guess, because it's like I stated earlier, people [pro-gays] who erroneously use the word "rights" have developed an intolerant mind to any discussion to the contrary. Which leads me to believe that you never actually came here to discuss the issue at all, Johnkent. You never entered this topic, intended on understanding those opposed to your pro-gay agenda.

Well, I certainly never came here for an argument. That I know. Neither did I come here to demoralize and coerce people into any ideology. I just came to understand and be understood. . . but like my people say oto nde owe nde; it's not everything that everyone will like/agree with. . . and tha e kelewa onye nthi ikhe; ma eligwe anufugh, ala nganu-inu; it's not everything that everyone will understand.

The main arguments when it comes to homosexuality has always been the Issue of "gay rights". U can't have this kinda argument without talking about it. if you're not ready to let gays enjoy thesame rights that you and everyone else enjoys then ,
Just like the civil rights movements. it was all about rights. Just give the black man thesame rights as everyone else. The black man wasnt asking the white men to like them or accept them because they were black. All the were asking for was equality and thats exactly what gays are asking for in this cruel world of ours. lets give them a chance.

Mad_Max:
If anything isn't the way they're used to, it's 'wrong'. If they themselves had been wired gay, they'd be singing a different tune. Like agathamari pointed out, some things people considered 'immoral' in the past look silly now. There's no evil they won't use religion to justify, from their bigotry to mistreating women to outright murder. The bible says this or the quoran says that. They do the evil but lay it all at 'Lucifer's feet. Tear your hair out all you like. Gays are making huge and deserved leaps in recognition and they are not asking for your irrelevant permission or approval.

Thank you. well said.

ChinenyeN:
Johnkent, you've now gone back to your genetics hypothesis, and you're still on this "rights" thing. I just sincerely hope you aren't talking about marriage.

I've always been an advocate for human rights. If it wasnt for people like Martin Luther King, Black folks might never be where they are in the US today.
I'll keep advocating for gay rights until the day I cease to exist just like Mr King!!!!!!!

ChinenyeN:
Johnkent, you've now gone back to your genetics hypothesis, and you're still on this "rights" thing. I just sincerely hope you aren't talking about marriage.

I've always been an advocate for human rights. If it wasnt for people like Martin Luther King, Black folks might never be where they are in the US today.
I'll keep advocating for gay rights until the day I cease to exist just like Mr King!!!!!!!

twinkle87:
Tufiakwa! aru emee! AJIGBA KWA IHEE OJOO! i saw one yday sef! if not for Corps i'ld hv SPAT ON HIM

ignorance

U guys are still arguing about this. I gave up yersterday. Lots of ignorant folks on here. Like someone talked about, alot of these folks on here have never been around a gay person so all they are doing is just fibbing.
As much as you hate gays, talk to one and try to understand why they "chose" to be gay since most of y'all believe its a choice.
Why do you think Someone would choose to be gay if they knew they'll be cut off from their entire family? They'll become second class citizens?? Some of their rights would be taken away from them They couldn't adopt kids if they wanted?? They'll end up being dejected by their friends??

These are things we need to think about before we start making assumptions. I totally understand why some of you are not tolerant of gays but i thought as people became more education, they become more understanding and accepting of other people's point of view.
Homosexuality has been around for centuries but as countries became more developed and people became more educated, alot of people in the closet began coming out.
I know for sure that Nigeria in the near future will get to where atleast south africa is in terms of gay rights. its just a matter of time.
These are people that we love.

st-kris:
best advice u'll ever get : GO BACK AND RE-ENROLL IN COLLEGE before it gets too late for u.

good advise. If you can't, then figure out how to get a ticket back to nigeria before it becomes late.

tpia.:
anyway, there's a possibility johnkent either isnt nigerian, or is trying to paint a particular picture of nigeria for reasons best known to him or her.

how can you say you got more gay proposals in nigeria than in san francisco.

that means you must be flaming, imo. And actively sought out the gay joints.

haha. I am probably more nigerian than you are. Just kidding but for real, I am Nigerian. Lived in Nigeria in between high school so i know quiet a bit about the area am from which is in the south east.

Oba234:
are you really going to compare what two consenting adults decide to do with each other in the bedroom whether it's with the same intimacy or opposite gender and compare it to grown men that preys on innocent young children and take away their childhood or compare it with a man sleeping with a goat?
Okay, until, you can see beyond these, I am done discussing with you.

Thanks. Some of their arguments holds no water.
anyways, am outta here. Pool time.

ChinenyeN:
Now you're jumping around from basic humanity to marriage (which is a social institution).

marriage is also a basic right that we heterosexuals enjoy right
U have the right to marry whomever you want as long as they are atleast 18yrs old depending on ur state/country of residence.
In some states, the legal age of consent for marriage is 16.
So, why can't 2 consenting adult gay men get married

ChinenyeN:
Still, the "rights" that you're speaking of, in regards to this particular topic, are not basic human rights.

for a married couple, the things that i listed are basic rights that they should also enjoy just like heterosexual couples. duhhh

ChinenyeN:
. . back to this "rights" issue. . . The bolded is where I disagree with you. Those aren't basic human rights.

Basic human rights in the 21st century is more than just cloth, food and shelter.
Very soon, access to communication which includes internet and cellphones will be included.
Guys, this is not the dark ages.

dexmond:
A mental condition. People are not born that way, occult scientists sold the dummy to people using everything it has including the government to force people to accept it. Humans have been brainwashed. man with man, woman with woman, where is procreation? test tube babies? artificial inseminations? what if this mental problem was common from the begining? will the human race continue?

Haha.
Thank God for science cuz alot of heterosexuals who couldn't have kids are able to have one.

ChinenyeN:
Oh okay. Interesting. So basically, for you, this whole thing boils down to the individual having more power than the society. Am I understanding correctly?

I have no clue wat u mean by having more power than the society. Nobody can have more power than the society. Like i have already said, they want basic human rights that are accorded to married heterosexuals.

Mad_Max:
Lol. After crooning songs and having thousands of women waste crushes on him, that zaftig Ricky Martin came out and said he was gay.  George Michale did the same thing. Elton John too. For every one that comes out, there's another still hiding in the closet because of judgemental holier than thous. They owe no one explanations or apologies for how their brains directed their sexuality. Another hundred years and it'll be a non-issue.

haha. And these are very handsome and affluent guys that could have gotten any women on the surface of this earth.
I remember someone talking about guys turning gay because of low self esteem and inability to talk to women. These guys don't even have to say a word to a girl before they go to bed with them.
They are Gay and thats who they are.

daroz:
well, homosexuality is a sin against nature and humanity. Its one of the device of the devil. We should all join hands together to fight it out of the society, not withstanding that some American states have already legalize it. In fact  if i happens to come across any, i will kill him, if that is the best way i can contribute to the sanitation of the society.

And u know what happens to murderers?? Life in Prison and i bet you don't want to be someone's Sissy in prison

Siena:
I have nothing against homosexual men or lesbian women. As long as their lifestyle doesn't conflict with mine, I could even work with them.

I prefer to live, and let live.

haha. U'll be surprised to know that some of the nicest people that you've ever met in life are still in the closet.

ChinenyeN:
Okay, we will definitely get into very muddy waters, with this whole "rights" discussion. Let me ask, Johnkent, are you a liberal?

am an independent.

ChinenyeN:
I'm sure you couldn't have missed where I stated that the discussion has taken a twist and is now about the basis for acceptance. I'm not discussing the people, or the acts themselves, just the basis for why you and others are soliciting acceptance. I'm not concerned with the actual people who actually do it.

I haven't heard any gay man or women asking for acceptance. They are asking for the same rights that heterosexual couples have. Right to be married, right to be added to partner's health insurance, right to be next of kin to spouse when death does happen/during health issues, right to spouse's possessions after death.
They don't care if you accept them or not. Thats the least of their problem. They just want to live a normal life just like you and me.

maclatunji:
@medlabgirl, tell them. Gays or Lesbians do not deserve to walk the face of the earth, that's why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. In an Islamic state, the law stipulates that they are to be stoned to death. It was when homosexuals started getting bold and having some degree of public acceptance that HIV/AIDS became the scourge that it now is. I can guarantee that if you continue with homosexuality, you will die a slow and painful death by the time your body starts to manifests the foul effects of your abominable act.  Remember. Garbage -in. Garbage-out.

And please all of you pseudo-liberals should stop feeding us with rubbish talk. If your mama and papa followed your own argument, would you be here to feed us this thrash? If your answer is no, then SHUT UP!

another ignorant brotha.

Mad_Max:
There's homosexuality in the animal kingdom too. You should see gay lions at it. Maybe those sanctimonius arguments should be taken to them as well. And what's being a paedophile got to do with being straight or gay? There are straight paedophiles and gay paedophiles. One is a crime people are thrown in jail for. Being gay isn't.

What two consenting adults do is ACTUALLY nobody else's business. In fact, the only way I will take your argument seriously is if you show consistency with both incest and heterosexuality, in regards to consenting adults. So, do you have a problem with incest?

Homosexuals aren't wired that way but chose to be gay? Fine. It means you too can choose to be gay if you want. It means you're s.exually attracted to people of your own gender but choose not to indulge. Afterall, you've got the same wiring as homosexuals.

valid points.

ChinenyeN:
Now this discussion is going to twist. . . be careful how you toss the word "rights" around, and make sure you properly define how you're using it too. Now, I'm inclined to abandoning this discussion because you threw in the word "rights" (which, in my experience anyone who uses that word and is pro-gay activity/acceptance has already developed an intolerant mind to any argument to the contrary), BUT because I really want understand what you mean by "rights", I don't mind entertaining this your response. So, pray tell, which rights. . .?
Now you're just being dodgy and switching the basis of your argument from genetics to consent (two different things). Okay then. . let me go ahead and entertain that too. Now, regarding consent and intimacy, what about siblings, who are of age? Your liberal mentality ought to have no problem with them engaging in sexual activities, since you want to hammer on about consenting adults and homosexuality. In fact, the only way I will take your consent argument seriously is if you show consistency with both incest and homosexuality, in regards to consenting adults. So, do you have a problem with incest?

Bawomolo, I've seen your posts on NL. You're smart. So do the math.

Incest is totally different from homosexuality. U anti-gay folks/conservatives always bring up incest and pedophilia which is completely different from homosexuality.

ChinenyeN:
I hope you all also realize that paedophiles (I had to purposefully misspell it because of NL amendment features) and murderers can put up the same "genetics" propaganda argument. . .

and what does that have to do with 2 consenting adults having sexxxxxxxxxxx?

ChinenyeN:
My thoughts exactly Tpia.

Johnkent, "bigotry" is "intolerance of someone's opinion". The term "bigot" is also a contemptuous word. Contemptuous words are prejudicial. Someone who calls someone a "bigot", only shows their own contempt and intolerance for that person's opinion. So, in reality, we are all bigots. Now, consider that next time you think of calling someone a "bigot".

Where do you all keep getting this "born with it" propaganda argument?

how did i know u were going to say that. Am not intolerant of your opinions; am just saying you need to give gay's the rights they deserve. we cant prosecute one because of their sexual orientation.

Obinoscopy:
@Johnkent

For every gay couple there is always a 'female' guy and a 'male' guy. The 'female' guy is feminine both in behavior and in looks (at least 95% of them which is statistically significant). The male guy may or may not be handsome. The same theory can be extrapolated for the lesbians.

not true. there are lots of "straight acting" guys in relationships. U would never know they are partners unless they told ya.