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Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 3:44pm On Apr 12, 2015

RikoduoSennin:
I was waiting to see how you will include "Jesus is God Almighty" into that Bible verse. Because I can't see it in all the Bible translations I have.

Jesus a God who has a personal God like us! How can he been ALL-MIGHTY?

bingbagbo, like you, knows nothing about persons of God,
he says two persons or three (including the Holy spirit) equal one person.

You say God is two gods
mighty God and Almighty God
God and a god
God and an Angel.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 3:29pm On Apr 12, 2015

CAPTIVATOR:
Johnw74 , says:

"for us there is one God, the father and son.

SCRIPTURE SAY:
For us there is one God, The Father ! 1cor 8:6

Catholic and protestants say :
" For us , There is one God, the Trinity"

There is One God the Father, and who in the beginning was with God?
SCRIPTURE SAY:
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1
God and Word two persons, One God.
The Father and Son are One God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 12:24pm On Apr 12, 2015*

RikoduoSennin:
Paying attention is important: did you not notice the word "Your" in the statement.

My God is mighty God, Almighty God, Jehovah, the Word, Father, Jesus Christ, and the other names and titles for God.
And I agree with you that my God the God of the Bible is not your god.
Perhaps the only true thing you have said to me.

How can spirit beings beget? Are they hemaphrodite? How did God beget Jesus?

we know you don't beleive the scriptures.

Hahahahahahaha, thank you very much!

We know without doubt that you are a pharacee, dont we?

The story of the ten virgins is it a Parable or not? What is a parable? What moral lesson does this parable mean (hint: preparedness not what you are referring to).

On the Last day, people will be judge according to their?

A: Faith
B: Sin
C: Deeds
D: None of the Above
E: All of the above

so you don't know the parable of the ten virgins.
You have not a clue.

RikoduoSennin: Riko: Who is the Father?

John: God

Riko: Who is the son?

John: God

Riko: who is the holy spirit?

John: God?

Riko: Are these three (the father,the son, and the Holy spirt) one/same person?

John: No, THEY ARE THREE SEPERATE/DIFFERENT PERSONS

Riko: So they each are God that means three Gods then?

John: No, these three persons are ONE GOD.

Riko: How can three be one entity, Explain

John:...............(evade)

Evade you, you are mightly puffed up.

johnw74

I'm not interisted in explaining Truth to you anymore since you blasphemed God.
But I may from time to time show up some of your wrongs.

Hehehehehehehe, Satan said to Jesus ....

Childish, a child playing games,
a fool in his folly.

RikoduoSennin: So If Father and Son plans to visit your abode, how ....

You don't believe that scripture.

I didn't reply to your grossly confused comments, which are many.

God can only beget God, you have very little understanding.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 11:04am On Apr 12, 2015

RikoduoSennin:
Trinity Say there are Three Gods, Jesus said "there is only one that is GOOD, that is God and he rejected being called God" - (Mark 10:18, Luke 18:19).

Yet another falsehood, and you also change what scripture says,
Jesus did not reject being called God, He said why call me good.

I believe your constant dishonesty and blasphemy of God, changing what Jesus said etc. is that of the unsaved.
The fact that jw does not know Jesus, saying He is an Angel is evidence of them not knowing the Glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ.

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

jw are not Christians, because they don't follow the Word, come Jesus Christ, they follow an Angel, not God.
Christians, which jw is not, are looking for the glorious appearing of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Tit_2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

All of your untruths, and they are in most of your posts,
show the spirit that is in you.

So, How is baptising[b] in the name of John, Peter and James[/b] the same things as John, peter and James being one person, equal, existed from the same time etc Things the doctrine of Trinity talk about.

What confusion that is.
And dishonest misquoting yet again,
nutarious said in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Christianity means followers of christ, we follow Christ not the Jewish custom, so we are christians.

The Word God became Jesus Christ,
jw are not Christians, you follow an angel, not God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 10:11am On Apr 12, 2015

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness....

Gen 3:22 And Jehovah God said, Behold, the man has become as one of Us,...

Gen 11:7 Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language,...

God is God and the Word,
yet jw say God was talking to Angels in those verse.
In Genesis 1:26 God was talking with someone who is the image of Him - God.

The word Jesus is the image of God:

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

That verse also shows that satan blinds the minds of those who do not believe.
jw believing the son of God is an angel, when scripture says the Word became Jesus Christ,
are blinded by satan because of their unbelief.
Hence their false doctrines.

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

False doctrines caused them to write their own bible that agrees with their false beliefs.
Their doctrines came before their bible, their bible was written according to their doctrines.

Christian beliefs come from the Bible.
jw bible come from jw false beliefs.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 7:38am On Apr 12, 2015

Emphasis is mine.

Showing the Divinity of the Word, become Jesus Christ.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

The Word who became Jesus made all things John 1:3
God created the heaven and the earth Genesis 1:1

God and the Word, who became Jesus, two persons speaking:

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness....

Gen 3:22 And Jehovah God said, Behold, the man has become as one of Us,...

Gen 11:7 Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language,...

God and the Word, is the Holy Spirit:

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, If a man loves Me, he will keep My Word. And My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 4:42am On Apr 12, 2015

RikoduoSennin:
Note: You and I don't have the same God. While your God is a triune being mine is Just one- Jehovah the Father of Jesus.

Father, Son and Holy Spirit is One God but being untruthful is not new to riko.

Re-Read My post and see which God I was addressing.

I'm not interisted in your false excuses,
I would have told you to go to God about it,
but I'm sure now after your blaspheming God, that you don't know Him,
more accurately, He doesn't know you.

My God, the true God according to scripture and that RikoduoSennin blasphemed.

johnw74:

There is only One True God now, it has always been
My mighty and Almighty God is One God, He is Jehovah, and He is Jesus, God and the Word.

RikoduoSennin

Then I will say your "Mighty and Almighty God" must be a nut job ...

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 4:25am On Apr 12, 2015*

RikoduoSennin:
You have it wrong! Don't Slander like the devil does very often!

riko is jw, jw did say that God confused Stephen:

RikoduoSennin:

YOUR GOD must have CONFUSED Stephen

[quote author=RikoduoSennin:]Must I correct you often?

You said God and the Word (Who also God) talked

Or is Jesus not God again?

God and God talked, If this person refer to as God and the Second person is together ONE GOD, then God spoke to himself ko?

I RikoduoSennin is saying that, that God is CONFUSE. Why send himself to the Earth in the first place?[/quote]There is the confusion of not knowing that God and the Word are two persons, One God.

RikoduoSennin: The Points is Knowing WHO YOU WORSHIP, I don't worship a complex God whom I don't know is real identity.

jw don't know God's identity,
if God beget an Angel then God would be an Angel,
He isn't, and so His only begotten Son cannot be.

RikoduoSennin: Are you denying your previous post: "God spoke to another person in the Godhead".

That is correct, God speaking with the Word.
riko mocks, saying God spoke to Himself.

RikoduoSennin

Conclusion is God spoke to himself, heheheheheheh!

RikoduoSennin: You still don't know your Bible. Is it the Pharisee or Saduccess that don't believe in RESURRECTION?

Correction: jw is modern day Pharisees and Saduccess.

Jesus said "No one enters the Kingdom without being born again" and Only those who do the will of his Father be be save but those screaming Lord Lord won't!

Did you say someone doesn't know the Bible?
Truly the five virgins were not locked out because they called Lord Lord, most would know how ridiculous that explanation is.
They were shut out because they were lukewarm, they had not God's Spirit.
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Sound familiar?

Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.[/quote]

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Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 4:24am On Apr 12, 2015*

nutarious:
COMMON guy, why are u misquoting me.............................

........................................pls dont misquote me again

Misquoting is the same as lying, I have made jw aware of untruths many times.
If jw riko was truthful, they would accept from scripture that Jesus Christ is God.
The Father could be said to be the Father of Angels, and the Angels can be said to be the sons of God because He created them.
But God begat Jesus, to begat means to generate offspring,
dog begats dog, of it's own kind,
human begats human, of his own kind,
God begats God, of His Own kind,

God does not beget an Angel, that would be similar to a man begetting a monkey.
But they reject the Truth where it opposes their false doctrines.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Undeniable Biblical Proof That Jesus Is Same As The Father by johnw74: 1:54am On Apr 12, 2015

BIBLESPEAKS:
This is your view. 2 persons (Jesus and YHWH) form one God.

Well you got that part right, plus the Holy Spirit, three persons are the One God,
but I won't go into the Holy Spirit, some cannot get this much.

But paul makés the picture clear when he said:

1 Corinthians 8:5-6
New International Version (NIV)
5 For even if there are so-called gods,
whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there
are many “gods” and many “lords”), 6 yet for
us there is but one God, the Father, from
whom all things came and for whom we live; and
there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through
whom all things came and through whom we live.

Paul makes it clear that God the Father and Lord Jesus Christ is One God:

the Father, from
whom all things came and for whom we live;
Jesus Christ, through
whom all things came and through whom we live

Paul makes it clear that God Created all things, God and the word, two persons in One God,
and we live for God through Christ.

perhaps you, like jw change John 1:1 from the Word being God, to the Word being a god. Perhaps you are jw?

Please did the text say:"yet for us there is but one God, the father and Jesus? No, that would have been absurd. But it said "yet for us there is but one God, the father." And then it says[b]"there is also one lord, Jesus"[/b]

And the text is correct isn't it, the Father is God and Jesus is the word, and God and the Word is God.

This is not rocket science, why is it hard for u to understand that YHWH alone is God, and Jesus is his son and our lord and not part of a Godhead?

I do believe YHVH is God and I do believe that Jesus is the son of God.
You have told me wrongly twice in two posts what I believe, and then try to tell me what I should believe, funny

I have been all through this with b, I'm not doing it again, especially with your confusion on what I believe.

Christianity Etc › Re: Undeniable Biblical Proof That Jesus Is Same As The Father by johnw74: 12:50am On Apr 12, 2015

BIBLESPEAKS:
There are a lot of passages in scripture that shows jesus as a lower spirit creature compared to his father and God

Only someone with complete disrespect for the Saviour Jesus Christ would call Him a creature

Jesus is Divine

King David said:
God said to my God.

Paul said:
our great God and Saviour.

Paul said:
Jesus existed in the form of God
and equal with God prior to His incarnation.

Father said:
Your throne O God will last forever and ever.

John:
directly referred to Jesus as the Creator Himself 1:3
Paul:
directly referred to Jesus as the Creator Himself Col_1:16-17

John The Revelator:
tells of the divinity of Christ Rev_1:6-7
and Rev_2:8

Paul:
tells of the Divinity of Christ 1 Cor_10:4

That's just a very few for any others who want to know.

Christianity Etc › Re: Undeniable Biblical Proof That Jesus Is Same As The Father by johnw74: 11:36pm On Apr 11, 2015

BIBLESPEAKS:
If you ignore this historical information, you will continue to wallow in your confusion of 2 God's in one.

??
I'm not talking for bingbagbo, me and he are like chalk and cheese on this matter,
but with all the posts I have done on this subject,
and you don't have a clue on what I believe, 2 god's in one sounds like jw.
And then you do a post about correcting me and b on what you wrongly think I believe??

Christianity Etc › Re: Undeniable Biblical Proof That Jesus Is Same As The Father by johnw74: 10:33am On Apr 11, 2015

bingbagbo:
Acts 16:30-35

30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.” 32 Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house. 33 At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his household were baptized. 34 The jailer brought them into his house and set a meal before them; he was filled with joy because he had come to believe in God—he and his whole household.

35 When it was daylight, the magistrates sent their officers to the jailer with the order: “Release those men.”

JESUS IS GOD ALMIGHTY

I have no problem with that,
Jesus is also the Son of God,
Jesus is also a real person,
Father is also a real person,
two persons there,
not Jesus and the Father equal one person, they equal one God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 10:22am On Apr 11, 2015

I suppose it could be said that the jw's are the modern day pharisees.

the pharisees deny the trinity - so do the jw's
the pharisees deny the Diety of Christ - so do the jw's
the Pharisees deny the physical resurrection of Christ - so do the jw's
the pharisees deny salvation by grace - so do the jw's

Some things Jesus said about the pharacees, and apply also to their later day equivalents:

Mat 23:13 But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of Heaven against men. For you neither go in, nor do you allow those entering to go in.

Mat 23:15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you compass sea and the dry land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, you make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Isn't that jw to a T.

Mat 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Mat_23:27 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which indeed appear beautiful outside, but inside they are full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 8:32am On Apr 11, 2015

RikoduoSennin:
Wrong, God Fathered Adam, is Adam a true God too? Who Fathered the Angels too?

jw doesn't believe the Bible:

Joh_1:14 And the Word became flesh, and tabernacled among us. And we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and of truth.
1Jn_4:9 In this the love of God was revealed in us, because God sent His only begotten Son into the world that we might live through Him.

You said God talked to another person of the Godhead, So in otherwords, God talked to another 'God' of the Godhead ( because the other person is God also and the address the one initiating the talk as God)

God is one God, it's you who said He talked to another god,
it's must be hard for jw to be truthful.

Interesting, I notice how you replace "God" with "The Lord" to reduce the effect.

You noticed nothing, the Lord is God.

I'm not interisted in explaining Truth to you anymore since you blasphemed God.
But I may from time to time show up some of your wrongs.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 7:37am On Apr 11, 2015

RikoduoSennin:
If you don't understand your God because he is complex, well that is you.

Because I understand my God because he isn't complex plus he wants me to know him too.

Jesus said " You worship what you do not know, WE WORSHIP WHAT WE KNOW".

Jesus obviously was not talking to His followers - Christians,
but applies to the various sects and other unbelievers,
and specifically on that occasion the woman at the well mm while she was an unbeliever.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 7:32am On Apr 11, 2015

RikoduoSennin:
Your God is the Father and Son of himself! He confuse people like Stephen when he show himself has two persons or was he doing A SPEED MIRAGE THING like they do in The Flash-Tv series. He spoke to himself repeated- He must be confused.

The Bible shows instances of God and the Word talking,
jw say He spoke to himself often, He must be confused.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 7:21am On Apr 11, 2015

RikoduoSennin:
Your God is the Father and Son of himself! He confuse people like Stephen when he show himself has two persons or was he doing A SPEED MIRAGE THING like they do in The Flash-Tv series. He spoke to himself repeated- He must be confused.

Stephen called Jesus, God and Lord, this is another verse jw does not believe,
jw say that God confused Stephen.

Act 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, who was calling on God and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
Act 7:60 And kneeling down, he cried with a loud voice, Lord, do not lay this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

Christianity Etc › Re: Undeniable Biblical Proof That Jesus Is Same As The Father by johnw74: 12:44am On Apr 11, 2015

bingbagbo:
JOHN 14:8-9

8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Jesus and the Father are God
Jesus and the Father are two persons
You may never understand.

James 2:19

You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder.

Well you know that much anyway.

HOW THEN DO YOU BELIEVE GOD IS NOW TWO

How do I believe God is two persons?
easy, two persons does not equal one person,
Father God, and Son of God however, do equal One God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 12:10am On Apr 11, 2015

RikoduoSennin:
Then I will say your "Mighty and Almighty God" must be a nut job. He split himself into two or more beings/persons for what? To confuse people? Could he not have done everything by his lonesome self?

johnw74:

There is only One True God now, it has always been
My mighty and Almighty God is One God, He is Jehovah, and He is Jesus, God and the Word.

I didn't think even a jw would blaspheme God like that, the One True God, mighty, Almighty God, Jehovah and Jesus, God and the Word, must be a nut job.

I have taken your blasphemy to God.

See the spirits whether they be from God or from the devil.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 12:00am On Apr 11, 2015

RikoduoSennin:
Then I will say your "Mighty and Almighty God" must be a nut job. He split himself into two or more beings/persons for what? To confuse people? Could he not have done everything by his lonesome self?

Your God is the Father and Son of himself! He confuse people like Stephen when he show himself has two persons or was he doing A SPEED MIRAGE THING like they do in The Flash-Tv series. He spoke to himself repeated- He must be confused.

Father and Son are two persons, One God.
God is not confused.

Jehovah Fathered "a god" which can either be Jesus, angels and Man, just name your pick or is Adam not God's son, just as the Angels are called God's son and Jesus was called the son of the Most high?

Then according to your belief Jehovah Himself would have to be "a god" an angel
God Jehovah Fathered God Jesus Christ, and He called Him God.
God created man, angels, Adam, and He beget-Fathered Jesus, if you can see the huge diffrence.
My dad is Human so I am human,
Jehovah is True God so Son is True God.

What does it mean to be an Angel or What does the word "Angel" mean?

Do you see that your God was quote as talking to himself?

I know that is one of the scriptures you don't believe.
God never talked to Himself, but He does speak with another person of the Godhead though.

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Judges 13:21,22 " The angel of the Lord appeared no more to Manoah and to his wife, Then Manoah KNEW that he was the ANGEL OF THE LORD and Manoah said to his wife, We shall surely die for WE HAVE SEEN God" PS: Note the capital letter 'G' as found in your bible.

Hosea 12:4 -Jacob struggle with an Angel who is also called God more than one times in the bible.

How about that.

The Angel of the Lord represents the Lord, talking as if He is the Lord.
Read the Revelation to John.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 11:13pm On Apr 10, 2015

RikoduoSennin:
@ Bold Section, Please address me and not the JW organisation as a whole. Discuss with me not picking fights with JW organisation.

jw's are the last persons I would listen to telling me how to post

Ha ha showing you where you are wrong is picking fights, truth remember

Can you please spot the difference between this two Statement:

P1: There is a different between "The Almighty God" and "The Mighty God".

P2: There is a difference between "Almighty God" and "Mighty God"

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HINTS:

H1: Focus on the Individuals wielding the Titles

H2: Focus on the Title itself.

If you cannot see by now you may never see.

Christianity Etc › Re: Undeniable Biblical Proof That Jesus Is Same As The Father by johnw74: 6:08am On Apr 10, 2015

bingbagbo:

JESUS IS THE FATHER

THE SON IS THE FATHER

Here is Jesus and the Holy ghost and the voice of God from heaven, the three persons of God at the same time.
Luk_3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

and you bingbagbo say that the Son is the Father, you should say the Son is God and the Father is God.

bingbagbo:

.....the voice that said "my beloved son" was a sign unto John the baptist that JESUS was the one he had been preparing the way for....

So according to you the verse is just a sign, and apparently the Holy Ghost did not descend on Jesus at the voice of God from Heaven.
Do you see how scripture has to be unbelieved and changed to mean something else, to suit all those who hold to false doctrines. No you probably don't see.

You are the first one I have ever heard with the "two persons are one person doctrine".

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Lied by johnw74: 3:05am On Apr 10, 2015

Gentolany:
God doesn’t grant all prayers and this proves that Jesus was a habitual liar

People that don't have their prayers answered is because they had not enough faith, they didn't truly believe, and they doubted, just like some of them verses say.

1) And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt....
4) Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25 NAB)

Christianity Etc › Re: Two Things You Need To Know As A Jehovah's Witness! by johnw74: 2:48am On Apr 10, 2015

YHVH or YHWH is God's name, other letters need to be added, popular pronunciations are:
YHOVAH
YAHOVAH
YAHWEH
JEHOVAH
It is the name of Father God.
mighty God, and Almighty God are titles attritubuted to Him.
mighty God is also attributed to the Word Jesus Christ.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Undeniable Biblical Proof That Jesus Is Same As The Father by johnw74: 1:33am On Apr 10, 2015

bingbagbo:
GOD BLESS YOU SIS......THIS IS ONE HARD TRUTH THAT THE WORLD CANT ACCEPT

An2elect2:

Okay let me be clear. They are one Spirit being.

Jesus is the Father himself. There are no two Gods/ spirits.

Hope you grab now.

Christians know that the Father and the Son are the One God.
And Christians know that God is One, not two.

And so THE ONE HARD TRUTH THAT THE WORLD CANT ACCEPT
is that, "the person Jesus is the person the Father".

Well you are right, forget about the world, Christians don't accept that the persons Jesus is the person the Father, Christians accept that Jesus and the Father is God.
The Word became the person Jesus Christ, the Father God did not become the person Jesus Christ.
The Son is Jesus Christ, the Father is God, two persons, One God.

An2elect2 said that "God is no other but Jesus Christ"
When I said "is the Father God also?"
she replied "Yes He is", and so she contradicted herself, there is another who is God, the Father also is God, and Christians agree with that.

When I said "Then besides Jesus Christ, the Father also is God"?
she wouldn't answer, I guess that's because it would show that two persons are God, even though she already said they were both God, but want's to stick to her false belief that Father and Son are not two persons.

She said "God is no other but Jesus Christ"
and after she said, God is the father.

And she went on to say "the Father is also the saviour, the Christ".

Well Christians knows that the Father isn't the Christ, the Word became the Christ Jesus, with God being the Father.
She is wrong and confused and you support her in your error and confusion.

Christianity Etc › Re: Undeniable Biblical Proof That Jesus Is Same As The Father by johnw74: 11:08pm On Apr 09, 2015

mustymatic:
Understand ur religion first before u conclude, am sure by then u ll kno d chalk n d cheese... peace out
Understand ur religion first before u conclude, am sure by then u ll kno d chalk n d cheese... peace out.

Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 4:11am On Apr 09, 2015*

Anything that you worship is a god,
some people worship other people,
people and anything can be gods.

A dog fathers a dog
a human fathers a human
a false god fathers a false god
a god fathers a god

God Fathers God
the One True God Fathers the One True God

It's simple for believing Christians.

You may say but a human fathering another human is a diffrent person?
so is Father God, Fathering Jesus Christ God, a diffrent person.
As is in the beginning, God Jehovah and God the Word is different persons, One God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 2:00am On Apr 09, 2015*

RikoduoSennin:
IN THE END THERE SHALL BE ONLY ONE BECAUSE A TRUE GOD HAS NO FATHER.

There is only One True God now, it has always been that way, you don't have to wait to the end to have One true God, you can have One True God now instead of your mighty God and Almighty God, being two gods.
My mighty and Almighty God is One God, He is Jehovah, and He is Jesus, God and the Word.
Jehovah Himself is mighty and Almighty God but you don't believe those scriptures that say so.
And you change the subject confusing the issue because you are wrong, and won't admit it but rather hang onto false doctrine.

Why don't you tell Father God Jehovah that He Fathered a false god (a god), as you are telling us.

If Jesus is an Angel then His Father Jehovah is also an Angel. But He isn't.

Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

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Christianity Etc › Re: "Mirror, Mirror On The Wall … Lie To Me!" by johnw74: 1:30am On Apr 09, 2015*

Nice post.

My mirror lies to me.
It tells me I'm ugly.

Christianity Etc › Re: Quiz Of The Day ??? by johnw74: 1:24am On Apr 09, 2015*

Unfunny joke,
I deleted it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Undeniable Biblical Proof That Jesus Is Same As The Father by johnw74: 1:04am On Apr 09, 2015

mustymatic:
Na wa ooo, so u guys don't even understand these things? lemme come

don't come,
islam and Christianity is like chalk and cheese.

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