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I mentioned how one jw didn't like me for no good reason, RikoduoSennin said, "your opinion" of course it's my opinion and true, was you the other one? was her being hateful mean that she loves me? smile I said to riko how jw's were going to take the best houses after armageddon riko said, best houses of who? why are you asking me? ask the jw's of old. smile he can't help it I said how jw's talked about Jesus returning soon, riko said Jesus coming is affiliated with pentecostal churches and so I'm lying. smile he has nothing at all I mentioned how jw's think they know all about you, and they falsely accuse riko said after saying I lie, stop generalising But in general it is true jw you believe your RELIGIOUS MOTHER, THE CATHOLIC CHURCHme I don't belong to the rc church, I have posted against some of their beliefsjw ur a catholicha ha they think they know you, and they falsely accuse and they say you lie, when what you say is true. RikoduoSennin When you want to lie- do your research firstRikoduoSennin There is a reason why you could lie about them- because you are bias to their beliefs. |
RikoduoSennin:We certinally do keep His Commandments That doesn't say we are saved by keeping God's commandments. We are saved by God's Grace through Faith. Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. |
RikoduoSennin:Receiving blood via the vain is not mixed with acid bile etc, does not go through the intestines to be absorbed, a lot of diffrence. I predict that in the near future- bloodless surgery is the way to go. ![]() |
RikoduoSennin:I know what they said years ago, they have changed beliefs since then, they don't tell you about all the changes, only about what you are to believe now. Revelation 5:6 " An between the throne and the four living Creatures AND AMONG THE ELDERS, I SAW A LAMB standing, as though it was slain with seven horns AND WITH SEVEN EYES 'WHICH ARE' THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD SENT OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH"And you think that means that God is seven Spirits. God is One, One God, One Lord, One spirit. And His Spirit fills the Universe, is everywhere. That verse Rev. 5:6 is of course not literal but symbolic, and is concerning the end times before the return of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The seven Spirits are Jesus seven Angels who perform His judgments throughout the Earth. Rev_3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Rev_4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. Rev_5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. Rev_8:2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. Rev_8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. Rev_15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. Rev_15:6 And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles. Rev_15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever. Rev_15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled. Rev_16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. Rev_17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great LovePeddler that sitteth upon many waters: Rev_21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. |
CAPTIVATOR:It's about another but I cannot let this go past. What rubbish some jw's at this forum speak, and with no care at all about it being untruthful. It shows the spirit in them. |
RikoduoSennin:The rc church have about a billion members. I suggest in both cases the help is from another. |
RikoduoSennin:You think I might lie because lies are in you. True Christians no longer lie. But you don't know about that. It shows the spirit in you, and having little true knowledge, you resort to accusing. 30 or 40 years ago saying Christ is coming or the kingdom is coming or whatever their phrase was, it was the main thing the jw's who visited me talked about, they would say only a few of their holy ones remain alive and it is close, of course their-your beliefs have changed since then. But you keep on with your false accusations and name calling of which satan is the father off. |
RikoduoSennin Believing the Holy spirit and Jesus is God Almighty worthy of your worship is sin- idol worship.Believing that the Father is Almighty God (that part is true) and that Jesus Christ is mighty god is believing in two gods. Truly the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ are not idols. Worshipping the Creator is not worshiping an idol, Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Worshiping the Creator is not worshiping an idol. Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit, from many verses I have given. How many Spirits do you think God is? and how many of them are Holy? and how many of them are not holy? |
RikoduoSennin:I have no reason at all to lie and you have absolutely nothing good to say |
bingbagbo:One what? He is One God Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. Trinity (God is three in one) is falseJesus on Earth Praying to God in Heaven "Our Father who art in Heaven... that makes two persons in One God. I won't go into the third person of the Godhead the Holy Spirit, because people do not even believe that God is two persons, God and the Word. In the beginning God was two persons, God and the Word. Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. jw doctrine that Jesus is not God but an angel is falseyes. Heb_1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? JESUS IS THE ALMIGHTY GODAnd so is His Father Jesus Prayed to His Father in Heaven, "Our Father who art in Heaven..." not to Himself on Earth, and God talked from Heaven concerning Jesus "this is My Beloved Son" God (Father) and the Word (Jesus) two persons, One God. |
There is a difference between eating blood, and injecting it into a vein to save life But even so some of the apostles taught to refrain from strangled meat and blood but Paul said I have faith to eat anything Christians are saved by Grace through faith, not by being able to keep the law which no one can that's why God provided His sacrifice for us, that whoever believes in Him will be saved and don't be fooled you don't believe in Him when you purposefully continue on in sin or believe that Jesus is not God, but "a" god or that the Holy Spirit is not God, and so on. |
Talk about delusion Jesus does not answer any of your prayers is because Jesus and God are imaginary2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 2Th 2:14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. |
joviegghead if u got a prob wit JW(whom I know are peace loving)ha ha I invited two jw's into my home and gave them my best seats while I sat on the floor the woman kept staring at me as if i was the devil such hate, how would I think they have anything to do with God I heard jw's talk about, how at armageddon after everyone but them are killed, they are going to take the best houses Exo 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. jw's came to see me at another time, saying Jesus is coming soon or something like that I said no thanks I have my own beliefs and I know about the end times one of them said you only know about the end times because you know the Lords prayer they think they know all about you, and they falsely accuse one thing I am certain off (know), is that jw's do not have God's Holy Spirit and how could they, they don't know Him |
CAPTIVATOR:God, is God and the Word, John 1:1 who other can be the God of our Fathers, when God and the Word is God You believe contrary to scriptures that say the Word is God, you say the Word is a god plenty of scripture has been given you still round and around you go again |
2Pe 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: "Of God and our Saviour Jesus Chris" = the one God just like "our Lord and our God" = the One God the word "and" comes from the Greek "kai" and can mean: Of God "also" our Saviour Of God "even" our Saviour Of God "so then" our Saviour Of God "too" our Saviour Of God "indeed" our Saviour Of God "likewise" our Saviour Of God "therefor" our Saviour Of God "yea" our Saviour Of God "yet" our Saviour etc. G2532 καί kai kahee Apparently a primary particle, having a copulative and sometimes also a cumulative force; and, also, even, so, then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words: - and, also, both, but, even, for, if, indeed, likewise, moreover, or, so, that, then, therefore, when, yea, yet. Total KJV occurrences: 9264 |
Hiswordxray:that's what captivator does when you give him answers and scriptures that he doesn't agree with he asks the same questions again not an honest way of posting |
CAPTIVATOR:you know how to do the twist round and round and up and down you go again |
CAPTIVATOR:That is delusion, Mary didn't give birth to God she gave birth to His human body God already existed If you wasn't told what to believe and what to say you might be able to think for yourself Thats the real truth .All of the Bible is the real Truth. Am not against that,you are not against calling Jesus God because you believe Jesus is a false god there is only One True God that makes angels, humans etc. false gods and before you start shouting that Jesus then is a false God I have to add here that Jesus was not Just human but He was also the Word of God but my point is that Jesus is never called THE MOST HIGH GOD ,with Jesus being the Word and the Word being God then the Word and God-Jesus and God, is the most High God, God is One God do u even know Jesus is under the authority of a Superior God , under the authority of whom he will subject himself forever ?God cannot be superior to Himself Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. verse 6, the Word looked like God, and He was equal to God, He was God God stripped Himself of all Glory and became man God the Word became flesh and the Word put Himself under God-the Fathers authority he did this Awesome thing so that mankind can be saved through His sacrifice He of course is still God the Word of God didn't cease to exist when He became man Rev_19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. There is no Lord above LORD OF LORDS He is Almighty God, KING OF KINGS, and Lord of Lords. God and the Word is He. |
The God of our fathers is God and the Word the Word became Jesus Some, being told what to believe cannot understand and go round and around in circles. |
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. Christians know Him 2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? Christians are in the faith, we know that Jesus Christ is in us jw's don't know that Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit, that Jesus Christ is God, which makes them reprobate reprobates G96 ἀδόκιμος adokimos ad-ok'-ee-mos From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1384; unapproved, that is, rejected; by implication worthless (literally or morally): - castaway, rejected, reprobate. Total KJV occurrences: 8 Like Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Christianity died with the last of the apostles. They believe Christianity was not resurrected until their founder, Charles Taze Russell, began organizing the Watchtower Society in the 1870s. Is the Jehovah's Witness religion Christian? by Matt Slick The answer to the question is, "No. It is not Christian." Like all non-Christian cults, the Jehovah's Witness' organization distorts the essential doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. These make it non-Christian. In addition, to support its erring doctrines, the Watchtower organization (which is the author and teacher of all official Jehovah's Witness' theology) has altered the Bible to make it agree with its changing and non-Christian teachings. continue reading this short and informative article https://carm.org/is-the-jehovahs-witness-religion-christian |
God let us know through the apostle John, that the Word who was with God and who was God, became Jesus Christ (chapter 1 verses 1&14) jw say: NO GOD, YOU ARE WRONG, Michael became Jesus. |
CAPTIVATOR: ![]() Well that's about as muddled as it gets. God exists eternally, God existed before Mary, so it's impossible for Mary to give birth to God who has existed forever, Mary gave birth to the Son of God, that's what the bible says and I have no problem with you saying Jesus is God He is, He is the Word |
CANTICLES:But they are all Angels. |
CANTICLES:1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. It is you who does not understand, God-Father in that verse means Supreme divinity and everything is from Him and Lord-Jesus Christ in that verse means Supreme in Authority and everything is from Him Just another verse showing that the Father and Jesus Christ is the One God. God G2316 θεός theos theh'-os Of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with G3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively a magistrate; by Hebraism very: - X exceeding, God, god [-ly, -ward]. Total KJV occurrences: 1343 Lord G2962 κύριος kurios koo'-ree-os From κῦρος kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, that is, (as noun) controller; by implication Mr. (as a respectful title): - God, Lord, master, Sir. Total KJV occurrences: 748 |
The Bible says that Michael is a Archangel jw say that michael is not a Angel but chief of the Angels the Bible does not say michael is Arch of the Angels the Bible says that michael is a Archangel - a chief angel NO: Jud_1:9 Yet Michael the YES: Jud_1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. |
CAPTIVATOR:No I don't agree with you that Mary is the mother of God Jesus was God (the Word) before He was born a man you sure have strange beliefs |
CAPTIVATOR:Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. God is God and the Word Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. |
ifex370:I do 1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. |
johnw74, is tongue twisting here! u are just tongue twisting around Oh! Tongue twistin man
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So because Jesus told his disciples what to believe and what to say- they are brain washed is that it?Jesus is God in the flesh he has authority jw's get their beliefs from their elders and those beliefs changes from time to time Jesus did not say, He who has seen me has seen GOD also.Jesus said exactly as I quoted: " he that hath seen me hath seen the Father"Joh_14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? is their honesty in misquoting jw's misquote often |
Longstride:They keep asking me but I don't always answer |
CANTICLES:You should be truthful and stop misquoting me God and the Word are two persons and the one True Godlook back at all the scriptures I have posted in many threads agreeing with that just John 1 is enough for a bible believer |
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