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Remilekun101:
What do you have to say about the dissociative part.. That is where i want you to talk on

A dissociative state is one in which consciousness is somehow divided or cut off from some aspects of the individual’s normal cognitive, motor, or sensory functions.

Remilekun101:
You forgot about this

The planchette is guided by unconscious muscular exertions like those responsible for table movement.

Nonetheless, in both cases, the illusion that the object (table or planchette) is moving under its own control is often extremely powerful and sufficient to convince many people that spirits are truly at work...

The unconscious muscle movements responsible for the moving tables and Ouija board phenomena seen at seances are examples of a class of phenomena due to what psychologists call a dissociative state. A dissociative state is one in which consciousness is somehow divided or cut off from some aspects of the individual’s normal cognitive, motor, or sensory functions.[20]

TonyeBarcanista:
You see your life? Actually, I never expected you to agree that Buhari is a sectional president.

Abeg Lalasticlala Seun and Obinoscopy, please the needful

Remilekun101:
i read that also

check this link


http://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Ouija-Board-True-Story-History-35962378
i have scanned the internet but can't find where this man paper work is The phenomenon was first explained way back in 1852, in a paper
presented by Dr William B Carpenter at the Royal Institution of Great
Britain.
http://paranormal.about.com/od/ouijaboards/fl/Tales-of-the-Ouija.htm

The Ouija phenomenon is considered by the
scientific community to be the result of the
ideomotor response.[4][14][15][16]

Various studies have been produced, recreating the
effects of the Ouija board in the lab and showing
that, under laboratory conditions, the subjects were
moving the planchette involuntarily.

Remilekun101:
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t[i]he Ouija board was regarded as an innocent parlor game unrelated to the occult until American Spiritualist Pearl Curran popularized its use as a divining tool during World War I.[3]

Paranormal and supernatural beliefs associated with Ouija have been harshly criticized by the scientific community, since they are characterized as pseudoscience. The action of the board can be parsimoniously explained by unconscious movements of those controlling the pointer, a psychophysiological phenomenon known as the ideomotor effect.[4][5][

I believe you never read the wiki u share Scientific investigationEdit

The Ouija phenomenon is considered by the scientific community to be the result of the ideomotor response.[4][14][15][16]

Various studies have been produced, recreating the effects of the Ouija board in the lab and showing that, under laboratory conditions, the subjects were moving the planchette involuntarily.[14][17] Skeptics have described Ouija board users as 'operators'.[18] Some critics noted that the messages ostensibly spelled out by spirits were similar to whatever was going through the minds of the subjects.[19] According to Professor of neurology Terence Hines in his book Pseudoscience and the Paranormal (2003):

The planchette is guided by unconscious muscular exertions like those responsible for table movement. Nonetheless, in both cases, the illusion that the object (table or planchette) is moving under its own control is often extremely powerful and sufficient to convince many people that spirits are truly at work... The unconscious muscle movements responsible for the moving tables and Ouija board phenomena seen at seances are examples of a class of phenomena due to what psychologists call a dissociative state. A dissociative state is one in which consciousness is somehow divided or cut off from some aspects of the individual’s normal cognitive, motor, or sensory functions.[20]

In the 1970s Ouija board users were also described as "cult members" by sociologists, though this was severely scrutinised in the field.[21]

The National Geographic show Brain Games ran an episode that clearly showed the board did not work when all participants were blindfolded.[22]

Ouija boards have been criticized in the press since their inception, having been variously described as "'vestigial remains' of primitive belief-systems" and a con to part fools from their money.[23][24] Some journalists have described reports of Ouija board findings as 'half truths' and have suggested that their inclusion in national newspapers lowers the national discourse overall.[25]
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Remilekun101:
Better argument about afterlife,yet you can't experiment with the one i gave... Why don't you make a Ouija board yourself and see if anything happens.. It with utter disdain i write this because i held in you in high xteem.. Belief you experience something before you claim it to be childish? Shm

Remilekun101:
Johnydon22.. i see you lurking. you didn't reply me about the Ouija Board

donnffd:
Lmao...this is so freaking hilarious and there are some people that would read this and believe it hook line sinker...smh

Jeromejnr:
Please, you guys should confirm stuffs before you post them.

This stuff has been around for months now. The news wasn't true. Its false o.

dalaman:
Both the Bible and the Koran place more emphasis on our need to fear God than love God, for God's retribution and punishment is the worst thing that can happen to you. Now, you cannot be fearful and at peace at the same time. If God can be violent towards you, and that is okay, what unconscious message does that send to a child?

tartar9:
Johnnydon22 always marvelling.my only problem is that the punishment was carried out by the Taliban who have no such authority,she just may be innocent and also why the man wasn't killed.

UyiIredia:
That's it. Knowledge, as well as other abstracts, aren't empirically confirmed. they are the means by which we perceive anything. Now not just one, but several people tell you of their experience. You can't write it off with mind-altering drugs since they had none, neither was it did have the lack of clarity of everyday dreams we forget. These were lucid experiences that WERE NOT conjured by drugs or a sleep state. Your only option is to dismiss it as a a figment of the brain which is naive. This is the folly of materialism. Anything that falls outside of that which we see in this physical world is foolishness to it.

One must ask_and I ask you johny.
Why would the brain pop out such crap in a strictly material world ? Why should we be even conscious at all ?
Last I checked, the laws of chemistry NEVER predicts that a bunch of chemical reactions can conjure up feelings concepts and imagery. This is a question the materialist will always shy away from, humor me by repeating the precedent.

You answer it and I'll tell you why any God-affirming religion is better than your atheism.

sonOfLucifer:
It's only their fear and hatred that I attract.

WhoBeThisMan:
no the Bible dosnt teach that.
I really do hope you know what you are doing and inviting to your self

donnffd:
Mars did have a very thick atmosphere before,but it was slowly lost due to solar winds which eroded the atmosphere, we are very lucky on earth because we have a strong magnetic field that deflects this solar wind and radiation before it reaches the surface. Mars has a frozen core which makes it defenseless to these solar winds,that's y humans won't be able to live on Mars surfaces except it's underground or in strong bunkers orelse we would have cancer...even astronauts and pilots ar at the risk of these...

Oluwaseytiano:
if u had employed ur reasoning first u would have realised dat those were extract from a book. Just learn and stop being a dumbass

hahn:
The discussion is heading in the same direction. If he can prove that there is actually an afterlife then he is a step closer to proving the existence of god. That's the point of the whole thread.

Well, I'll sit back and drink my agbo(I have small malaria) and enjoy the conversation. When he eventually comes with his "then this also means god exists" statement I'll be there to say "I told you so"

Onegai:
I've met a few people interested in Astronomy here. in Nigeria.

Why not you guys start crowd funding for money to build yours? Start small, build a sundial and look for apparatus. Get a small building and write to universities and observatories to see if they have old equipment they can give you. Charge as little as possible so people can visit and I'll tell you other ways to get funds.

You can start the first observatory in Nigeria

Teempakguy:
hahahaha. . this is funny to me. i have no idea why though.

Seriously if our magnetic field goes then are going bye-bye princess. . . Its no joke

anyway, you're probably right as well. the problem now is, if humans are going to live on mars, they will have to plan their lives around it. it solar winds must be constantly monitored so that they can be indoors when it strikes. or . . . fried chicken, sir.

meanwhile, ganymede is becoming somehow interesting to me . . .

Largest moon in the system and the only of such to have it's on magnetic field.. Damn she is pretty attractive..

Wouldn't blame you..

Teempakguy:
The solar wind is actually very dangerous. and also, in space, distance doesn't matter. without atmospheric friction to reduce speed over time, things do not slow down at all. the solar wind will continue to move at the same speed . . . forever.
earth still has a lot of water because of our magnetosphere. which deflects the solar wind. like a force field.. another of those cool things.


Mars does not have a strong magnetosphere. because of this, the solar wind is in direct contact with it. no deflection. i think the reason mars doesn't have this magnetosphere is because of that collision you mentioned. it must have jumbled up the core very badly and must have destroyed it. a planet needs to have an intact core in order to have a functioning magnetosphere.

I don't think the collision is solely responsible for the stripping of mars' liquid water because, earth has also been involved in such a collision. which gave rise to the moon. and yet, we still have water. i think the worst the collision could have done was to
1. convert a lot of the water into gaseous form, instead of liquid,
2. destroy mars' magnetosphere,

the result would be an eventual stripping of water vapour and oxygen over the millennia. transforming the planet into what we now see.

here is a picture (artistic representation) of what is going on.

https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/marsearthmagfields.jpg


Another depressing fact. in the last 200 years, the earth's own magnetosphere has decreased by 15%. so . . . get ready, the earth is going to be loosing some weight in the next 5000 years.

Teempakguy:
I have a theory that the reason why mars doesn't have much water on it's surface is because of solar winds blowing away liquid water away from the planet over the millennia. i need someone to work it out mathematically.

my evidence is er . . . well, mars only has dense gases on it's surface right now. and a lot of sand. that is weathering. how did that happen? how is it possible for the surface of a planet to be so full of sand if there wasn't a consistent weathering system? and i recently read of how mars had all the lighter gases in it's atmosphere blown away by solar wind because it's magnetic field is very weak.

it follows that as the gases were being blown away, water must have evaporated due to the decrease in temperature.. these would have then being blown away as well.

johnydon22, what do you think of this?

hahn:
At the very least

I don't think these guys realise how much ridicule they put their god concept by equating it with physical bodies. First it was the wind, now it is micro-organisms.

It's pathetic really

Remilekun101:
Since you want physical evidence about afterlife. Lemme ask you a question. Why is it that human physical eyes can't see minute microorganisms unless with aided instruments? And yet you believe that they exist?

HCpaul:
You mean a religious myth like me right?
You want christians to believe in the evolution theory that you preach about, yet in your entire life you have never witness an experience before.

The evolution concepts is an imaginary history of the past.

Jonnydon was an evolved monkey.