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malvisguy212:
as an atheists,who is your role model? Christopher hitchen when ask to condemned beastility he refused.
"Bestiality is the act of engaging in sexual relations with an animal."

You wanna know my role model?

[size=20] Me [/size]

so?

Jameselias:
no in thier confusion as usual they will wish it to be. But will attribute it to their god, and that's my problem with them, they don't see anything good in human beings or earth but only in that (ideal image in thier mind ) so called god, can u beat that!?

lolzzz

AllNaijaBlogger:
No bro.....

I asked "WHEN LAST". I never denied in happened far back in the past.


Even atheists and pagan too were ignorant in the past. That is why it is referred to as the dark ages

lolzzz it all happened tho.... the church was ruling the world then until pope gregory separated political power from religious power...

Anyway carry on with the muslims guys you were yarning with brother..

ayoku777:
Predestination is what the bible says it is, not what humans or dictionary says it is. According to the bible, God's will for man is not always done. Do you have a problem with that?

Peter told the brethren to be diligent to make their calling and election sure (2Peter 1v10). If our callings are automatically fulfilled just because it is what we were predestined for, would there be a need to tell us to make our calling sure?

Use the bible to explain bible terms. And from bible terms, God's predestined will for individuals was not always done. Man still always had the freewill to not submit to God's will.

If God's will is always done, then all men would be saved. You can refuse to fulfil your calling. Man has the freewill to not submit to God's predestined will for him.

Use scripture to explain scripture, not personal opinion. I'm not making this definition up to suit my ideas. This is the definition of the scriptural application of predestination.

Predestination in the bible is God's predeterminate will; what He created someone to be or to do. It doesn't compulsorily mean that is what the person will be or do.

According to scriptural application, predestination is not cast in iron, it does not over-ride freewill. A man can still choose to NOT submit to God's predestined will for him.

Infact for God's will to be done in someone's life, the person must submit his will to God's will and give diligence to making his calling and election sure, just as Jesus submitted, "Not my will but yours be done." It is not automatic.

People who say predestination is what will happen no matter what or what will take place independently of your freewill, are not defining predestination by scriptural application.

By scriptural application, predestination is what God created you to be or do; His predetermined will for you. Freewill is your power of choice to submit to God's will or go your own way. Both are not mutually exclusive. Every man has both predestination and freewill. God gave us both.

Predestination is our calling from God. While freewill is our right of choice to make our calling sure. Something we can fail at or refuse to fulfill. That's why names can be blotted out of the book of life after they've been written.

Dude since you say predestination is what the bible says and not dictionary then their is no more need adding more cus obviously we are not talking about the same thing..

Op it is left for you to say the predestination you mean..

But i av never heard the bible is now used to know the meaning of a word tho ?

AllNaijaBlogger:
Are we in the dark ages? You need to check your calendar

No bro...

You asked if christians ever chopped off heads..

I just reminded you they once did for 1000 years bro.

No hard feelings bro, its nothing serious..

Hhmmmmmm nawa oooo... You guys dont ever get tired of castigating your religions?

Oh yes the bible commanded such violence and deaths and horrible evil actions but christians now dont let it influence their actions because human morality surpasses that of any God(s) or anything written in the pages of a book.

But looking at the actions of most muslims in the world are best described as brainless folks with a book and gun..

Tho those two books bible and koran are real shiiiits and are not supposed to influence any man's thinking and actions..

frank317:
Ya.. Muslims attack people physically while Christians do so psychologically.

You claim no one can be savedl if not through your belief. You condem even loving people like Mandela and threaten people morally better than you with hell just because they don't share you belief. Your so called men of God rob you of your senses and money by psychologically controling you and you shove your delusions on peoples faces.

Why do I have the feeling that most of the Christians commenting on this thread did not read the OP and if they did, they didn't understand it.

Is he asking where christians were chopping off head?

Dude dont know when was called the dark ages seriously..

Christians did far more than anything islam is doing now for 1000 years thats why its been referred to as the dark ages in human history.

Millions of scientists, atheists, muslims, pegans and heretics were beheaded, burnt, stoned etc...

Dude needs a background check on his religion..

Emusan:
Then what was your intention for asking such question if not because you're a confuse dude?

hahahahaha... you dont even follow discussions before jumping into the middle.. am sure you didnt read my discussion with him from the start you just dabbed in from the middle.

I asked him that question so that he can tell me the reason why he dont believe in zeus (which he answered and said because its myth) and that was how i wanted to show him exactly why i dont believe his (all are myth)

I hope you get it now ... We are clear now huh?

dd12345:
man was not made to live for this world..this life...this life was meant to be traded for a higher incorruptible life...Roman.8:20-23 says For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of
him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall
be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children
of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain
together until now. 23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the
firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the
adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

And all this you believe because a book that was written by some dude said so right

Another fairy tale...

Horus:
Yes, and his sarcophagus is a proof that he lived and walked, but religious cannot find the bones of Jesus anywhere on the planet.
Maybe Jesus went to Heaven with his own bones

am a huge fan of mythology both jewish, greek most especially african mythology... i have read about lilith adam's first wife (jewish mythology)

I will like to read about osiris jareeeee... fire on with the tales..

History 101

Horus:
Osiris is not a myth. ,Archaeologists also found the tomb of Osiris, also called the Osiris Shaft.

[img]http://www.dominiosfantasticos.com.br/underuti.jpg[/img]

The tomb of Osiris, also called the Osiris Shaft.

So osiris is dead?

frank317:
Surprisingly, Christians and Muslims will hate this lovely dream...

What is really wrong with these people?

Because the achaic concept of God(s) and superstitions will be no more and they prefer that nonsense to peace on earth..

Jameselias:
All what u pple have written even a christian will say i pray so, what do u think?

No they are waiting (expecting) for the world to get destroyed (Rapture) thats the difference..

Emusan:
Listing to yourself "nobody can answer you" when you're confused.

I don't have anything against Zeus

So do you believe Zeus exists?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha thats all...

read my above post sir... no need going over it again...

btw i dont believe any God exist... be it Zeus, yahweh, horus, mithras, thor, odin, krishna..

Are we clear now?

You see i hate long unnecessary arguments, moreover we have derailed this thread long enough... am done..

MzNelly:

I'll still beat you, one day.

Hahahahahahahahahaha... really looking forward to that..

ayoku777:
God gave man both. Predestination is God's predetermined will for a man. But God also gave man the freewill to choose God's will for him or go his own way. Its clear from from scriptures that predestination is not cast in iron, in other words, it is not super-imposed.

Even in predestination man still reserves the freewill and power of choice to submit to it or to go his own way.

And there are examples of those who submitted and those who didn't.

Jesus is called the lamb "slain from the foundation of the world" in Rev 13v8.

Meaning His sacrificial death was predestined and pre-determined.

Also in 1Peter; it shows that his death and the shedding of His blood was FOREORDAINED.

1Peter 1v19-20 -But with the precious blood of Christ, as of the lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was FOREORDAINED before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you.

But even though Christ's suffering and death was foreordained before the foundation of the world; He still said in Matthew 26v53 -

Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and He shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?

Meaning if Jesus had changed His mind about dying and requested to be rescued, the Father would have granted His request, even though it would have been contrary to what was foreordained.

Jesus still reserved the freewill and power to choose otherwise. He voluntarily submitted to predestination; it wasn't super-imposed on Him.

The bible also said indirectly in Rev 17v8 that names are written in the book of life since the foundation of the earth (which implies to preordained unto eternal life).

But then, Jesus also warned in

Rev 3v5 -He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life...

Jesus doesn't make threats, He just tells the truth as it is.

If your name being in the book of like, means you will make it no matter what, Christ will not warn us against doing something that will blot out our names.

The scripture shows that names written in the book of life can still be blotted. A man foreordained unto eternal life can by his own choices blot his own name out of the book of life. Predestination is not super-imposed or cast in iron.

Even Judas was foredained to sit on thrones and judge with the twelve in the age to come, according to Jesus.

Matthew 19v28 -Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me; In the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of His glory, ye also (Judas inclusive) shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Judas was still among the twelve when Jesus made this statement. But we all know what happened to Judas, he, by his own choice, went his own way -the way of perdition.

So much so that Jesus said concerning him, that it would have been "good for that man if he had not been born. (Matthew 26v24)

These scriptures and a few others like it, show me that predestination is not cast in iron or super-imposed. Meaning it is possible for a man by his choices to refuse to accomplish or attain to something he was predestined for; something he was foreordained unto since the foundation of the earth to do, receive or attain.

So God gave man both predestination (God's predeterminate will for a man) and freewill (man's power of choice to submit to God's will or go his own way). We have both.

You see why we always have an issue with you theists...
God gave man freewill but yet he predestined everything.. do you guys even hear yourselves..its like eating your cake and have it

[size=20] If man have freewill how can everything be God's plan, if everything is God's plan how then can man have freewill[/size]

MzNelly:
Confusion Humanist

hahahahahahaha i don die.... i saw someone call you frosbel in the making..

Even your christian brethren think you are the confused one now..

lolzzzzzzx why u deh vex naaaaaa... na only u waka come?

diaris god ooooo

KingEbukasBlog:
lolz ... this dude ... zeus is a myth .Yaweh is God because he has revealed himself already ...

Hahahahaha imagine the irony zeus is myth even tho the ancient greeks believed he he revealed himself to them..

You are sure the greek myth is myth and nothing because you dont believe in it, because it was not the crap that the missionaries sold to u.

But yahweh the jewish myth is not a myth because now you believe he revealed himself (we did not even see the revealing)...because the missionaries brought him to you..

[size=20] Anyway now you know why i dont have any issue with your God, how can i have any issue with a myth? Zeus, yahweh, allah, osiris etc are all MYTH... believe the one you like thats ur biz not mine [/size]
oya are we clear now? cus am not gonna reply your quotes anymore bro...

Emusan:
Do you believe Zeus exists?

I asked a simple question... nobody can even answer me...lolzzzzz

Why dont you answer mine first then i will answer urs immediately..

[size=20] what do you have against God[/size] (zeus)

Go check soon in the dictionary....

Cutehector:
Like d bible said , he only is d author and finisher of our faith. We hav d choice to live how we choose too . But all dat happens in life is in d master plan

So which is it... did he give free will or have predestined everything...? just answer one

And all religious, denominational and dogmatic diversity will crumble..

making people value each others life and the earth more than any superstitious mumbo jumbo...

People will stop wishing the earth will be destroyed (christians) while the others will stop destroying it themselves (muslims) and focus on the good of the world..

It baffles me how someone have not finished living this one chance at life that we all have now, but is killing and wasting his time looking for another...

#WeFuckingLoveAtheism

MrOlai:
^^@Ifeann/parisbookaddictoloriburuku.

U're a shameless harlot hiding under d shade of religion! The infections u contracted d other time thru ur miserable promiscous life that led to persistent vagina itching u complained to my colleague, and other symptoms are affecting ur brain!

Wolf in sheep's clothing! Oloriburuku! Shameless harlot!

Hey shut the fu..ck and stop this nonsensical and stupendous yapping..

Why would resort to such unnecessary insults instead of making your points..

please stop that nonsense..

parisbookaddict:
for some strange reason changing the sex of my online account drives the muslims crazy..it is such fun to watch them go insane and insult over it..
it funny how they don't address the villainy of Mohammed and the quran..rather they argue of the gender of the OP..

perhaps I am a male Japanese gentleman ..maybe.

Eheeeeee better... you have cleared my confusion ...

MzNelly:
Johnny will just come here and confuse everybody

Honey am not confusing anybody oooo.... anyways longest time sweet

KingEbukasBlog:
who is zeus

hahahahaha imagine the deception... ok zeus is God ... what du have against him?

parisbookaddict:
go on Mr muslim tell me more...Mohammed will be proud of u

Ok wait ayam confused... which one are you exactly MALE or FEMALE

omat20:
real not dream

Ewooooo

omat20:
well I do see ghosts. My best friend(female) died at the age of 10years on a car accident. I was 10years then. Since then I have been seeing her and others.

In real or dream?

KingEbukasBlog:
.... lol ... I hope you know most of the gods people worship are just heroes ... because of their abilities like saving the village , protecting their own people during wars ... when they die , these people in bid to remember their great deeds , mount their statues , worship them as gods . See ... these kind of practices are done in places like China ,African countries etc . Other gods people worship are actually fallen angels ... some are myths ... so lemme stop here sha . God also knows that other gods were being worshipped that's why He said don't have any other god before me . You atheists should stop sounding uneducated and not widely read when you say which god are you talking about ... And being educated does not mean believing in the big bang or evolution ...

Habaaaa... the question was a very simple one but you choose to start going in circles...i ask again
[size=20] What do you have against God (zeus)[/size]