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Sapiosexuality:
Guys, please tone down on the mentions. Please.

DeadRat:
Rule Of Discussion. Never Argue With A Stupid Fellow, he Would Bring You down To His Level And Defeat You

THT80:
It seems I have made many enemies from various sections. How remarkable. So Jonny, you had to trail me all the way from religion section after a made a meal of you and your atheist friends? How sad. Lots of cry babies on this forum.

Lawlahdey:
Your mom's the bvtch for giving birth to a randy and uncouth dog like you. An uncivil, ill-mannered, low-class idiot trying to portray himself as intelligent just because he had access to government-funded petepete education.

You will do well not to reply me or you will take a real wash in the downpour of shame.

Samsimple:
religion has been a subject for critism for centuries i think thats what some people needs its existance for

Samsimple:
My opinion
1. Supporting Religion
Religion is the source of all laws. I
personally believe that without laws such as the Ten Commandments, the world
would be manic and there would be no law or order. Clearly, this would lead to the world becoming extinct as no one would
know that they should "love thy
neighbour as thyself" or never to kill.

2. Against Religion
God has no religion. God has no
political party either. Unless we learn to recognize that we are all children of God, and that we should love each other, the
world will continue to run its course. It's time to throw off the chains of the world. The golden rule, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, in all the holy books of every religion, Love is the greatest gift we can give to one another. Love is the true religion, and the only religion of this world.

vaxx:
let's deal with p3..existence did not not came from nothing ..it really address the op...

Where did the existence came from?

hopefulLandlord:
P1) From nothing, nothing comes
P2) Existence is real
P3) Existence did not come from nothing
C1) The simplest conclusion is that nothingness did not, and could not, have existed.

krattoss:
Since last two days, i havnt Been able to access mobdro app on my mobile device...

Who else has noticed this And why

analice107:
Na so 33 yrs old man go look? That picture wey look like say na 90yrs old man. My Master was 33yrs when he left this Earth, not an old man with white bia bia.

analice107:
Lolzz, Jon. Gerarahia mahn.

analice107:
Wonderful. So, a 33yrs old Jewish man looks like that?

I no gree.

AnonyNymous:
So the best way to stop worrying about death is to live. But then, what would you tell a person who can 'see' his death approaching (terminal illness, old age, death sentence, or even someone with a mental illness). At that point, death is nearer than ever, and it would be something that would cross their minds frequently.

cc johnydon22

segunojo866:
seriously. I need atheists babe o. All these Christians girls na just to fu*k them and leave them to their Jesus Christ.

hopefulLandlord:
you're still a freethinker

Jared77:
Doesn't matter, as long as you are not a theist.

AgentOfAllah:
You darkmatter2525 addict, you!

ToZaraWithaZ:
But the theist might still argue that it's a PHYSICAL LAW that does not apply to his God. How would you answer this?

ToZaraWithaZ:
Indeed. You cannot act as a PERSON within a spacetime you transcend. True.

ToZaraWithaZ:
Excellent proposition, Johnydon22. But I do not think anything stops "God" from intervening in the 2D spacetime, the same way nothing stops me from forwarding or rewinding a movie - I'm INFLUENCING it without ever stepping into the 2D spacetime. Although, my interference is still LIMITED (unlike that of the Abrahamic God who has free reign in our 3D spacetime, and can send his angels who're spirit beings and belong to another dimension to come into ours - with whatever kind of MAGIC]

The real issue is the difficulty in justifying the concept of being IMMANENT and TRANSCENDENT at the same time, since the two terms seem somewhat contradictory.

Is God everywhere (immanent)? Does God exist outside our world (transcend it)? In other words, is he in or out of the world, in it or above it? Is he seperate from it (it's his Creation, but it's not him) or is the substance of God also the substance of the universe (hence God is immanent by definition - but PATHEISTIC in this case)? WHICH IS IT?

If God is everywhere, is he also in HELL? Is he in toilets, dump sites, brothels, club houses, kidnappers' den, terrorist hideouts?

Let the theists come and answer these questions, 'cause I think they're confused.

AgentOfAllah:
I understood its implication, I just don't understand why or how such a mathematical formalism is applicable to the known laws of Physics.

Fair enough! But your explanation only applies to post-release movies with multiple versions. Now let's suppose the movie only exists on some form of editable physical media or another, and there is only one copy of that media available (precluding possibilities of alternate universes), such that if the movie were edited in the way I previously described, there would still remain just one copy. Now, splicing new sections in the timeline of the movie will surely alter the fate of the characters, even if they (assuming they are sentient) don't realise this themselves.


Yes, again, let's assume there can only be one copy of this movie on a single storage media in my possession. I agree that I can't directly tell Frodo and Sam to hide, but there are other ways I can interfere with their fate, like shooting a new scene with their characters doing what I want and then splicing this new scene into the single version I have. Even suppose we go with your multiverse solution, it's still an interference, albeit an imperceptible one, no? I've intentionally changed the unwinding of their timelines from a single possible outcome to a superposition of equally probable outcomes. They don't have to perceive such an interference themselves for it to occur!

Yes, the types of interference you've listed wouldn't affect the characters' lives, nor would they affect the the time and space in their universe. However, splicing new scenes will clearly affect the time and space of the characters in the movie, even if they don't notice. So, my thinking is, maybe this extradimensional god cannot directly interact with us as we interact with each other in our own dimension, but if this god were watching us like the unwinding of videos, then they can potentially effect changes in our own time, space and fate without us noticing.

felixomor:
Good. So take it that the churches are in bankrupt state by default.

And by the way, is the govt ready for the extra responsibility of bail out of such organisation if bankruptcy becomes perennially recurrent?
I think not