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light099:
You should have noticed I love Ronaldo. Messi is this shy introverted guy and does not really have a social life, where as Ronaldo is one lively guy I like, he's adventurous and enjoys life. This is the point where sentiment comes in for most people, but I know so well that I shouldn't mix things together. That's the way to enjoy the best of life. If I allow prejudice, because I don't like Messi's lifestyle, I would have been blind to his talent, to realize how amazing he is. That's why I always break everything down to details in life so as to clearly see the best choice in any given situation.
I love both of them and I'm not expected to be bias. I love one on the field, i love the other outside the field.

Bro I don't doubt Messi talent or Messi being great o.... I'm just making opinion for Ronaldo and countering all lies against him

Techiekingee:
E didn't say Ronaldo doesn't do anything....
He said Ronaldo doesn't do anything spectacular aside scoring....
Make una try dey read well abeg

I know it's only Messi that does spectacular things on the field na aside scoring

light099:
You're still not getting the point. Every player on the field is expected to play entertainment football at one time or the other in their careers. Even we guys play on the street or field and we enjoy ourselves but the point is, Ronaldo is good at scoring, but apart from that, there's nothing else spectacular or outstanding about him, he's just like any other regular player on the field or even a little below average.
On the other hand, take scoring away from Messi, when he touches the ball, you would still know the king is with the ball. His calculations are just genius, his precision, ball control, just name it. That's why experts have tried to map out Messi on the field and compare the data with other players in history. The difference is just too clear. Messi is like combining many great players in one person.

One thing is, in life I understand, we can't all make the right or same choice. Some must pick the good thing while others would pick the other thing. No matter how glaringly wack something is, it must always have it's own diehard fans. That's just the way life is designed.

The only thing is that, it's hard to find me among those who're fans to wack. I have a good taste of choosing the best things.

Outside the field I wont pick a Messi as number 2 to Ronaldo, Ronaldo is sociable, lively, charismatic and looks better physically, the difference is clear; but on the field, I wont pick Ronaldo as number 2 to Messi. Difference is clear.

You are just a Ronaldo hater .... On the pitch of play Ronaldo does nothing... Lol... No worry na

Techiekingee:
Oga, google is a search engine not a sportscaster...
Google directs u 2 a site...give us dat site let us see

And about Pele, I laugh, u want to bring dis one abi??
baba u If are really a social media person, u'll know Pele is really confused..der are several videos of Pele siding messi at one point in time and siding Ronaldo at anoda point in time..he is already acting senile....

"Pele actually picked Ronaldo over Messi"....what do u mean by dis statement

Ronaldo de lima says Messi is better
Maradona ". ". ". "
Johan cruyff
Rooney
Figo
Lampard
Henry
Guardiola
Klopp
Van dijk
Salah
Mane
TAA
Robertson
De ligt
Xavi
Iniesta
Rivaldo
Ronaldinho
Totti
And son on
Majority of the world think Messi is better

So, what exactly are u driving at

Bro I'm not arguing that on the pitch of play Messi isn't better, but football as a whole, Ronaldo is greater

Techiekingee:
The earlier u understand dat creating chances and creating assists are two different things, d better 4 u

You have shifted the goal post again ... If I bring his chance created stats again, you will still shift to another thing...

Well Pele is more credible than Kaka...

Techiekingee:
Dis man that doesn't read carefully ,u av come again
Ronaldo has the highest dribbles in a match.... show me d credible source u got it from
I know where u can find all Ronaldo's individual record 4 man utd...if u need it, ask me and stop spilling wat u dnt knw...

Ronaldo has the highest assists in UCL history and Euros history....well, Messi has the most assists in Laliga, copa America and football history

Ronaldo is the active player with the most freekick goals- Nobody is arguing with u
Who told u ronaldo can play 10, av u seen him play it or is it just ur assumption...no vex me o

(Many wingers and strikers in football are better than many 10s. Figo is better than Iniesta or Xavi. Cantona, Pele, Henry, Van Basten, Dennis Bergkamp, Pires, etc)- total Rubbish.
nobody is arguing all these...and stop comparing forwards with midfielders, they are different type of players. U can as well compare Messi with Buffon
And FYI, Figo is a winger and also a midfielder...what will u call Hazard; winger or midfielder?...e is both
Evry1 knows Ronaldo is just a forward...stop arguing dat e is a playmaker or midfielder...Inugo??

What we are arguing abt is if Kaka is right about Messi being better than Ronaldo...u nid to go bk and read d topic

I just gave you the credible source of the dribbles... Why not check it out on Google.. Man UTD vs Benfica.. (2006 UCL match)

Pele actually picked Ronaldo over Messi.. anyways

Techiekingee:
Oga...drop d link to wereva u got the stats from na...let the whole of Nairaland help us judge if it's credible or not..
I keep repeating it... Nobody is hating on Ronaldo
D difference between u and d point is really far...try coming back to d point.
The point is if Messi is better than Ronaldo as claimed by Kaka.
And who trolled Ronaldo 4 not aving international trophy... definitely not me or Messi fans ..

Messi is literally d reason y e doesn't av an international trophy
Because e lost a penalty? I'm beginning to think u ar being unreasonable.....even the greatest players lose penalties.... Ronaldo lost a penalty in 2008 champions League final, did the world shoot him?, his teammates made-up for it and dey won d champions League....So, Señor, What is ur point

But Pele said Ronaldo is greater than Messi , and you guys started insulting and criticising Pele

light099:
We're still saying the same thing. He made his plan well, he worked hard towards it and he got it. Football is meant to be entertainment but sad thing is, only those who can kick the ball inside the net get the cup. Tapnaldo might have considered a career in modelling but when he discovered he can still do well in football without any real talent, if he could work hard kicking the ball into the net. He kept doing that and that's how he came about all what you listed in your screenshot, until Messi came into the scene and showed the world what 'best' should look like.
If not for Messi, it would have been a great disgrace to the whole world with great talents all over the earth, if a boring guy tapping ball inside the net like a programmed robot is crowned world best all these years.
When you talk about world best, great talents like MJ, Da Vinci, come to mind etc, you mean people who can amaze/thrill the world, people who can make you open your mouth in awe and wonder if they're really humans or not.
That's exactly what Magical Messi is. Awe, magic, wonders on the field, talent, jaw dropping feats, scoring and then entertainment. You're entertained when watching him. Infact, if you watch ball on a blur screen, if Messi gets the ball you will know. His moves is so thrilling, everything is just different about him. Guy is an alien.

Don't get me wrong, outside the field, I will pick Ronaldo but on the field, I wont even pick Ronaldo as number two after Messi.

So ronaldo never played entertainment football before??

Or perhaps Ibrahimovic is now boring too??

You Messi fans, well your bullshitz can stop ronaldo from being one of the greatest...coz if not Pele and Maradona, he would have been the greatest then Messi

stupidity:
bro, dm the girl. If she nor accept you let me know.

Lol....must I dm her??

Swiitdoll:
I’ve been at home for three weeks, no work, no uni, nothing. I feel useless lol. It feels like a movie yunno, like this the kind of stuff we see only in movies I never imagined it’ll ever be real it’s wild lol

I'm telling... Can't wait for all these to end.

Swiitdoll:
Give It to your buddies, they need it more as you know them �. I guess everyone’s tired of staying in during this pandemic really. ��‍♀️

Lol... Never knew the world could stay still.. Im just imagining myself being at home all day, all week... It's well...

Swiitdoll:
My location’s got nothing to do with it. Would you rather be ignored than know not to waste ya time messaging? Haha �

What if I dm'ed you a contract worth 10m, you won't reply..
No p though... House don tire me

A player who people claim isn't a playmaker contributing 253 assists?? Do you know what this is??

This player doesn't play set pieces o (corner kicks and long free kicks),coz he's the one who heads the ball... And still has 253 assists in his career??

How many playmakers has/had this number of assist?? Moreover if benzemiss usually score his goals, the assist stats might have been higher....

Techiekingee:
Oga abegi.. Ronaldo doesn't have the record 4 most dribbles in a game...show me the credible page dat gave u that stat....
Opta began tracking dribbling stats since 2006 and Messi has completed most dribbles
Nobody is insulting Ronaldo at what e is not good at
U claim e is better at heading, scoring penalties....all these u mentioned are they not d same thing as scoring goals..
Let me break it down for u
Both Heading and penalty are under goalscoring and dat's d only category Ronaldo is comparable to Messi....u can't deny Messi and Ronaldo are on levels in goal scoring- I don't care how dey score it(either penalties, headers)
But in d other category lyk playmaking- incase u dont knw wu a playmaker is, they are sometimes called the "number 10" of the team, as they often wear d numba 10 jersey. Dey usually sit in a free role between the midfield and the forwards, either in the centre of the pitch or on either flank an dey are also usually quick, agile, and highly technical players with good vision, shooting, passing, crossing and dribbling ability; they are known for scoring goals as well as providing assists, through-balls, and initiating attacking plays.
Messi does all these things and still tops goal charts...
Y do u think dey call Messi god of football??
Simple, e does all these things effectively, one pesin o
That's exactly what kaka is trying to explain to u Ronaldo fans..

And u say Ronaldo fans don't push false narratives to make ronaldo better??
Who always says Messi should prove himself in another team because Ronaldo has proven himself in epl, laliga, Jupiter, mercury, Saturn?

Who always says Messi shud win international trophy first Someone dat got to the final of the biggest football stage and won golden ball- u think world cup golden ball is for any type of player??...

Who always says Messi won't perform without iniesta and xavi

Read well o

Oga, so modric that won golden ball is better than Xavi and Iniesta, well that's true anyway coz modric has ballondor (football biggest individual price)

Ronaldo has the highest assists in UCL history and Euros history....

Ronaldo has the highest dribbles in a match against Benfica in a champions league match for man utd. Man utd won 1-0, Saha scored from Ronaldo assist.

Ronaldo is the active player with the most freekick goals

Ronaldo has always been a winger. He never played 10, buh that doesn't mean he can't playmaker... Many wingers can also playmake... Di Maria, Giggs, cantona, Henry, Figo, Hazard, Pele....

Many wingers and strikers in football are better than many 10s. Figo is better than Iniesta or Xavi. Cantona, Pele, Henry, Van Basten, Dennis Bergkamp, Pires, etc

You Messi fans just like degrading Ronaldo to make Messi look good... Everyone knows Messi is great, yet you keep churning out rubbish daily to discredit Ronaldo.... Na wa o

Swiitdoll:
Masturbation is quite natural and has some health benefits as shown by research. I envy those who can masturbate, I like man hands too much haha touching myself isn’t enough ��

So because you are in UK, we shouldn't dm you

Why is portharcourt this dirty?? Abi breeze blow dirty from Aba enter there ni

Naira marley to sweep balogun market, Lagos island

Hope this is not another publicity stunt??

How much per month to selected recruits??

Hope is not 10k

light099:
You're still not getting it. A hardworker who keeps working hard tapping ball inside the net is different from an alien with football DNA in him, who thrills on the pitch and does magic with ball - assist, scoring, dribble, acceleration, just name it.

An average student who sleeps in night class to score A is different from a genius who scores A sleeping, knows more than the lecturer, thrills other student with his brain, teaches other students and when there's a problem no one else can solve, people go to him to solve it.

That's why Ronaldo only has fans on local forums like NL, while every footballer and expert out there knows Messi is not on same level with Ronaldo. They're not even to be compared.

I also like Ronaldo outside the field because he looks better and sociable but I will be wack to mix that with his football life. Except for ladies and those who don't watch ball, any guy who watches ball and claim Ronaldo is better than Messi must likely be a wack or something. They're not even to be compared.

Will a person who taps the ball into the net alone have all these?

ignis:
This is what happens when the government is a toothless bull dog. No one has been used as scape goat so far, despite flaunting this order.

If you talk against Buhari's government now, DSS will be at their best to arrest you. Where are the DSS now when you need them?

In a sane clime, this man should be in kirikiri maximum prison by now. This is a treasonable murder offence of deliberate disregard and disobedience of the government, capable of leading to loss of lives.

We are fighting this fight against pandemic and some so called religious people are bring us down.

This should not be taken likely going forward.

Christians already know they'd face persecution.. it's not a new thing for us... The apostles were flogged, thrown to prison etc... Their answer, "we'd rather obey God than men"...

Churches can be opened but social distancing should be observed...

My friend the Antichrist isn't around yet for us to start closing churches down...

Aren't you going to supermarket to get things this lockdown??

Why is everyone so against the church?? I'd the Antichrist here already ni!?

Techiekingee:
Check how many years Lampard played 4 Chelsea...e even captained dem
D the same for Gerard for Liverpool...he captained Liverpool too
Check how many years, Rooney, Beckham, scholes and Roy Keane all played 4 man utd....dey all captained Man utd. Even cantona
U tink is by coming to win one champions League and league and running away dat makes u a Legend

So Samuel etoo is not a Barca legend??

Etoo... 2003 to 2009

Cr7... Man utd
2003- 2009

Buh Ronaldo is a Madrid legend
2009-2018

Oga Ronaldo is a man utd and EPL legend... check out what he won that made him so

Techiekingee:
Oga stop using English dat u don't know.... Ronaldo is not a Man U legend or Epl Legend...he is legendary 4 only his national team and also real Madrid

Are Henry, lampard , Gerrard, Rooney EPL legends??

Are Rooney, Beckham, cantona, scholes, Roy Keane man utd legends?

Techiekingee:
Lol...u think creativity in football is equal to assisting or scoring goals
Google 'who is a creative player'
Read everything u see and be enlightened
Yes, Neymar is more creative Dan Ronaldo.....
Creative players are classic No 10s of a team

Neymar more creative than Ronaldo... Lol?? Ok lemme ask you some players and tell us they are not creative

Thierry Henry
Ronaldo del Lima
George weah
Robert pires
Hazard
Pele
Luis Figo
Wayne Rooney
Ryan Giggs
Eric cantona

Now because these players aren't classic no10s, they aren't creative?

You are just a biased Ronaldo hater. No objectivity from you....you can even say Pogba, pjanic etc are more creative than ronaldo because they play the 10 role...

However lemme ask you CR7, Xavi, Iniesta, Cryuff who is greatest amongst the 4?

Techiekingee:
Oya go out side and tell people dat Ronaldo is creative or write a book about Ronaldo's creativity and see how many you'll sell...
If they are talking about creative players lyk debruyne, pogba, Messi, pogba, modric,. U'll bring Ronaldo out??

You don't know what creativity is. In your mind now probably someone like Bale or Suarez or maybe Neymar is more creative than Ronaldo..abi?

Techiekingee:
Ask yourself

Lol... Na you know

Don't compare a Barcelona and laliga legend to a man utd and EPL legend, real Madrid and laliga legend, and a Portuguese legend

Be warned!!

Techiekingee:
Don't u knw dat prolífic forwards tend to av more assists....go and check
If he is more than a goal scorer, tell us what else e is
Listen, in football there are player styles
There are
-goal poachers/Target men
-false nine
-dribbler
-counter attacker
-play maker
-box to box
-Creative midfielder
-defensive midfielder
-ball winner
-stopper
-sweeper
-attacking fullback and
-shot stopper

In Ronaldo's team, every one knows d only category Ronaldo is- Goal poacher
Y den are u argueing dat e is more dan a goal scorer
In current juve team, is e dia dribbler, is e dia false nine, is e dia false nine, is e dia counter attacker??

Look at Messi's Barcelona....
D little man is the goalscorer, false nine, dribbler, counter attacker, playmaker, creative midfielder...one man is this versatile...and you compare Ronaldo to him because of international trophy...SMH
Be truthful to urself it's not easy 4 one man to do all the things and do dem well

Lol... All these things you mentioned about Messi, are you saying Ronaldo can't do them??

Creativity
Counter attacker
Passing
False nine
Dribbler
Winger
Playmaking

Are you saying Ronaldo can't do any of those??

Techiekingee:
Oga first offs, xavi and iniesta are not on Zidanes level. Anyone wu picks dem ova Zidane is on cheap drugs. I'm a barca fan o... Zidane is one of d greatest players of all time...he is up there among pele, de lima, messi, Maradona...
Secondly, No one is arguing that Ronaldo isn't a great player...d topic is abt kaka picking d better player
It's obvious you only heard the names of d greatest players to play the game...pele, maradona, de lima, cruyff, Ronaldinho
They all possessed great vision and passing ability.
Go and read abt dem.
Cruyff was a forward as well as a very creative attacking midfielder
Pele in his later career took on more of a deeper playmaking role behind strikers, often functioning as an attacking midfielder
Ronaldinho-u suppose know
Maradona- attacking midfielder or forward, great vision
De lima-most complete forward of all time (ask around), Great vision, crossing ability

What I'm saying is you have to be versatile as A FORWARD to be considered greatest of all time.
U just cant be scoring goals only nd want to be considered better than someone scoring goals as much as u as well as being a great playmaker


PS- The highest scorer in football today sef- Josef bican, no one knws him

So Ronaldo is not versatile??
So Ronaldo is not creative??
So Ronaldo doesn't have vision, technique or skill??

What is the end product of creativity?? Is it assists, or contribution to goal, or what??

Anything that happens, I just hope to be in the Lord's army on the day of his appearing

Techiekingee:
Is it by assist?
Kuku say because Ronaldo has more assists than iniesta nd xavi combined, e is a better midfielder or play maker than them
What u dont understand is dat messi as a forward has the creativity, vision, passing, and playmaking skills of midfielder.... dat's what makes him ahead of Ronaldo....
If you take away Ronaldo's goals, what does e have to offer- he'd be just a regular player as lingard
Der wud b a time dat no Matter d hardwork or exercise, Ronaldo won't be able to strike, bang goals again and even play football professionally again due to ageing.
Messi on the other hand is gradually shifting to deeper areas of play....his goalscoring ability is still there and he is also a great playmaker and controller of d game.

Oga Ronaldo is not midfielder... Must he be a midfielder to be great??
Was Pele (�) a midfielder?
Was Henry, was Nistelrooy, was Cannavaro, was cryuff etc??

Leadership is actually a greater skill than being a playmaker... Hope you know why people are Zidane over Xavi and Iniesta, or even Lampard over Xavi.... You know why Maradona too is rated great... (Leadership too)...
Ronaldo trumps Messi here... Messi is a better playmaker no doubt, doesn't mean Ronaldo cannot playmake or create chances... For someone to be the highest assists holder in Euros competition in history, is that a small test.. where great playmakers (Zidane, Figo, Deco, Ballack, Lamps, Xavi, Pirlo etc have played)

If you like don't put respect on Ronaldo name...history will tell!!

Ibrahimovic that is a striker is playing up to 38 years now...what about romario, Pele, Pelle, Crespo, Shearer etc, what age did they retire... Miroslav klose broke WC record at what age??

Playmakers e.g Zidane, Xavi, dinho etc almost all retired at 34-36, years...

Techiekingee:
Let Ronaldo prove himself in the biggest football stage by winning a world cup golden ball....
Messi was close to winning a world cup...he got to the final and was the tournament best player
All international tournaments Ronaldo has won, e has never been d standout player....euro2016-griezman was d player of d tournament
Nations league 2018-Bernado silva was d player of d tournament...
Ronaldo is just a goalscorer....dnt compare him with Messi

The delusion of you Messi fans is to keep posting everywhere that Ronaldo is just a goal scorer to discredit him ... However the world has seen your malicious claims... Continue shouting Ronaldo is a goal scorer... Perhaps you'd say Suarez and Benzema are better players than Ronaldo as well since he's just a goal scorer...

Yet he's the player with the most assists in UCL
yet he numbered 20 successful driblbbles in s single match which acclaimed dribblers have attained
Yet he the current player with the highest freekick goals even though he hasn't scored for club in 2 years

Yet he doesn't know how to pass, he doesn't know how to tackle, he doesn't know how to motivate... He's just a goal scorer..

At least everyone knows he was Portugal best player at the euros and winning the cup is more important than golden ball....