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chiboy1116:
did u watch Copa America 2015? Lwkmd . U de use stats ? Kane should be wc2018 best player then .

Also James Rodriguez or Thomas Muller should hav been 2014 WC best player too, Buh since neither Kane nor any of those two got to the finals, then it holds no water

MrMou:
So you would rather accept the opinion of an organization that claims Messi was the FIFTH best forward (not even 5th best player o) in that world cup ahead of FIFA's own award that was based on set criteria? You funny die!
If to say FIFA themselves release first 11 & Messi no dey there or FIFA even acknowledge this Castro own as official, na another talk be that.
I could also give you other top sports organizations that rightly included Messi in their 11 of the tournament if you're ready.
All of these 11s, including the Castro, are nothing official!

Oh shut it... FIFA didn't select a team of the tournament that year, and Castrol were the official sponsors of the tournament.. So their ratings holds more water

eni4real:
Great players? He was not even a starter in 2006 when majority of these players were playing... Most of them were even retiring at that point!!

Pastors and Banega are below the standard of greatness you are trying to portray..


Who should we blame for Argentina poor runs in 2010, if not the "Bendtner of Coaches" called Diego Maradona!!! He was very poor in leading them. Germany destroyed Argentina 4:0 despite the stars in the team... Maradowho?


Ronaldo is blessed with greater players and greater coaches...


Coach: Felipe Scolari(a world Cup winner), Carlos Querois(a veteran), Fernando Santos( A believer in Eder)


Great teammates: Figo(A Ballon d'or winner), Rui Costa(A legend in Ac Milan), Pedro Pauleta( A prolific goal scorer, a hatrick scorer in the World cup, legend of PSG, Legend of Portugal), Deco( Legend of Porto, Legend of Barcelona), Nuno Gomes( A technical player), Maniche( A great forward, a golden ball winner), Ricardo( a very good goalkeeper), just to mention a few


And this new generation, he has Bernaldo Silva now who is the best player in Man city this season, also the best Portugal player this season. The best player in the UNL.


In Euro 2016 final, the team shows tenacity that the talent of France cannot break. And then that shot from Portuguese Drogba, Eder won the trophy...
They won the trophy when Ronaldo was out!!! That is the best thing that can happen to a team. Ronaldo knows that the teammates are good enough without him. It is just that his presence make them perfect!!!

Now compare it with the disaster of a team playing in the Copa America!!!

Great Portuguese team that couldn't win the a spoon before Ronaldo

The only Portuguese of note was Figo, and he tried his best

And how dare you put Eder and Drogba in the same sentence?? Eder is another Manucho

Argebtina players weren't good and they reached 4 finals Is that bread??

Messi is just the one who fails to step up when needed

You want to compare Bernado silva prime with dimaria, Aguero or even Aimar prime??

MrMou:
You just like to yarn crap, my guy? Can you provide us with the so-called Castro team of 2014 World Cup tournament?

While we wait for you to provide that, why will Modric's own generate controversy when nothing much is expected of him before? It's same with the tap-in merchant - their bar dey low, so any little thing wey them do is overpraised. If we ask 5 people who should have won that 2014 award, you'll hear 5 different names. That should tell you say una no just wan hear Messi name despite his stats because him standard too high! If another person played exactly what Messi played, had his exact statistics & won the best player award, e for no be problem. But as na Messi, standard too high! If Messi played what Modric played in 2018 & he got the award, everywhere for scatter with serious complain!

Castrol team of the tournament based on WC 2014 statistics

Neuer

Rojo Hummels Silva deVrij

Oscar Kroos Lahm James

Robben Muller

Herein is the link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup

Lol.... Hope you know Ronaldo won the 201

I notice that when players retire, the accolades mentioned include:

National team trophies
Club trophies
Goals and assists
Individual awards

I have never seen chances created or key passes or dribbles made being mentioned...

Enyeama

Yobo Okechukwu Taribo Babayaro

Oliseh

Okocha Kanu


Amuneke Yekini Amokachi

NB: these are the players I watched

eni4real:
Maradona is not a forward. So I don't expect him to score as much as Messi

What about career assists?? Messi match him with that. No wonder, he won World best Playmaker for 3 consecutive years...

Maradona is great more for the national team than for the club... compared to Messi...

He was a skillful player but he peaked between 86-90.,He never rediscover that same form amidst his struggle with Ephedrine and other substance...

. The best of Maradona was in Napoli where he won 2 Serie A, 2 UEFA cups(Europa League) and Super cups. He was the best in the SerieA around 87-90.
Won a golden boot despite being an attacking Midfielder..
He was great but he is still pale in comparison to Messi...

At best Maradona was a Lampard of Napoli with more artistic skills.... Ma Gi Ca trident is a club Legend agreed!

Barcelona, yes he was in Barcelona before he moved to Napoli. He was a skillful player so he had a lot of flashy highlights in Barcelona with a wonderful price tag. But he won just the Copa dey rey with Barcelona...

I don't think he won anything with Sevilla...

Second coming to Boca, I don't think it was eventful...



Yes, Messi enjoy a weak defence system but how come only him and Cristiano score 40+ goals in the past 15 seasons. Are Lewandoski, Eto'o, Suarez, Zlatan, Drogba, Henry, R9, etc not great strikers. Why can't they produce the same for at least 6 consecutive season


Leo and Cris are something else.

. But the Playmaker ability of Messi is what baffle me most. How can someone score that high and still create such a high chance.??


Don't ask me why he can't do the same for Argentina?? You know the Answer to that!!! Mediocre is even a kind word for these teammates who can't be fluidy on the ball by default.. ..

Give me Messi and 10 pieces of Real wood and I will crash out of the group stage. That is normal. This teammates can't shield, can't move, can't threaten with shots. Apart for Aguero who else is vibrant Forget those attackers big names. This Argentina team is the worst in history especially without Messi. With Messi they are worth being beaten...
De Paul, Peypeyra, Sarravia, etc. Who are those?? They can't even prove us wrong with their mechanical football!!!

Messi played with great Argentine players and still couldn't win anything

Javier pastore
Walter Samuel
Gabriel heinze
Pablo Aimar
Eva Banega
Estaban Cambiasso
Diego and Gabriel Milito

So what then??

MrMou:
At least, we're over your initial crap of Messi not having a goal or assist in the KO of that World Cup.
This new crap that you're bringing now, I no understand! Which World Cup team of tournament did Messi not make
Make I wait for this reply!

Oga Castrol that did the team of the tournament in 2014 didn't include Messi in their team of the tournament based on statistics... Everyone knew Blatter just handed the golden ball to Messi...

When Modric won his, was there any controversy??

What must chile and Thailand play for Nigeria to progress??

MrMou:
The tap-in merchant has played 3 finals with Portugal & has had ZERO effect in all three of them, including one where he ran away like a chicken!

You Messi fans are something sha

Tell us why Messi will appear in 4 finals and lose all??

MrMou:
Fact man! Only if Messi had a team like Portugal that can win these finals like they do for the tap-in merchant even if he flops in all or runs away like a chicken.

Rubbish talk... Your Messi couldn't score or assist in 4 finals.....

MrMou:
Messi actually refused 2015 Copa best player award because him dey disappointed say him no win. He also rejected Man of the Match against Paraguay in the group stages because he wasn't happy they squandered a two goal lead! He has small shame unlike a certain shameless tap-in merchant that's even campaigning for this year's Balon D'or by shamelessly telling us by himself how he scored the winning goal in a Community Shield equivalent!

And if you claim FIFA dashed Messi, did FIFA dash Modric too? Na the tap-in merchant for win the award, ba? Do you really need to see Messi's 2014 world cup stats?

4 goals in the group stages and 1 assist in the knock out stages??

That he couldn't even make the team of the tournament bases on statistics??

eni4real:
Ronaldo is loved by Man united, Real Madrid, Portugal and Juventus fans, . He is only hated by some Barcelona fans..

Messi is loved by Barcelona fans only. He is hated, I mean hated by Argentina fans led by Maradona, the hypocrite!!!

Messi is hated more by Hala GGMU Forza fans!!

No football supported hates Messi, you his fans are his problem

MrMou:
The tap-in merchant has played 3 finals with Portugal & has had ZERO effect in all three of them, including one where he ran away like a chicken!

Still Ronaldo : 3 finals - 2 winnings

Still Messi : 4 finals - 0 winnings

Chai☹️

MrMou:
This same Portugal team you want to downgrade because you want to hype the tap-in merchant defeated France in France in their most important match in history WITHOUT him! Argentina can't do that.
The tap-in merchant has won 2 international trophies, yet he wasn't even Portugal's best player in those tournaments, talk less of being the entire tournament's best player. Messi enters finals & wins best player of the tournaments, yet, he doesn't win the competition. That should tell you something about the respective teams! That should tell you that if Messi had this Portugal team, he would have won FOUR international trophies including 1 world cup whether he flops in all the finals or runs away like some tap-in merchant. No be by big name forwards wey you get; na by team balance & fighting spirit wey coach dey put for him team.

Oga Portugal played their most important game at the 2004 euros on home soil

Ronaldo was Portugal best player at the Euros 2016

Can you tell us why since 2007, Messi can't win anything with or for Argentina??

Frankaka8:
quit reasoning with your anus.Winning trophies is team effort. Has Ronaldo won A PLAYER OF THE TOURNAMENT IN FIFA OR EURO Mind you, both individual and Team trophies, LEO is still ahead with 2years young career... Eder and Guedes help cr7 to win Euro and Nation league trophies in the final.... No one could help Leo even i the WORLDCUO FINAL....yet he has 1MVP IN WORLDCUP AND 3MVP IN COPA AMERICA. see you in Fifa gala night and Balon dor night. Las Las you go shutup

Oga... Messi has only one MVP dashed to him by blatter

MrMou:
You fans of the tap-in merchant lie too much! What's the meaning of "singlehandedly"? You think say na only you watch the Euros? Did he not score the same number of goals in the tournament as Nani?
If Messi had that Portugal team, he'd have won 4 trophies including a world cup whether he flops so bad in the final or runs away in the finals like a certain tap-in merchant.

Lol... Ronaldo is not a failure who will play 4 finals and lose all na.....

Lol...

I would blame my girlfriend for not telling me about his innuendo from the beginning

I would blame my friend, for being a betrayer and not acting as a friend

Andrewkinggg:
Copa America twice but refused one so it was handed to Chile's Sanchez.
What else do you want?

You liar... Sanchez won his golden ball fair and square

It was only in 2015 that Messi rejected his coz he knew he didn't worth it....

eni4real:
But they have no international trophies??
Is that not double standard?

Not double standard... They have won what Okocha won and they have what he doesn't coupled with individual awards

eni4real:
Kanu and Drogba have no international trophies tho!! They are only good for clubs!!!
They won the African best award because of their club performances..

Yet they are greater than Okocha

Andrewkinggg:
Constantly fails?
If been the highest goal scorer and having the most assists for Argentina is failures then I doubt you have a knowlegde on football. If having to win the U20 & Olympics with Argentina is failure you definitely is incoherent on this subject maybe you should switch to cricket or golf.
If Messi scoring an Hatrick to qualify Argentina to the last world is failure then you obviously is ignorant about this guy's greatness.
If Messi being the only player to have Player of the Tournament in every international football tournament is a failure I guess your MCM would want that failure.
If Messi has led his team to 4 back to back international finals is a failure I know many players who wished they had that luxury of playing in a world cup final LoL

You are speaking like Messi isn't performing when he's on the Argentina shirts. Why blame Messi for Argentina's failure? Would he defend, goal-keep, score, create chances, assists and score at the same time?

Your knowledge in football is so poor dude. Football didn't start 3 years.

Apart from World Cup 2014 that was dashed to him as compensation by Blatter, which other tournament as Messi won player of the tournament??

Andrewkinggg:
When you speak on Messi, speak it with respect and deference.
I see it is travesty that Ronaldo is put in the same pedestal as Messi. Messi is way way way ahead of Ronaldo.
It's a big insult to say Ronaldo is better because he had won 2 trophies with his national team forgetting trophies are team achievements. Portugal won the trophies and not Ronaldo. In those 2 finals Portugal played, Ronaldo fired blank, he was completely inefftctive on the field.

I'm going end this argument once and for all. Most of us has seen Okocha and Mikel Obi played. Okocha has played in the highest level of football with the national team but has failed to lift the continental nations cup whereas Mikel Obi has lifted the Nations Cup. My question is who is the greatest Nigerian Player amongst these two?

Let's know who knows their football.

You judged greatness by what is achieved and won, not how you do something... Achievement defines greatness...

Kanu
Drogba
Etoo
Aboutreka
Mikel

Etc are all greater than Okocha in African football, Buh Okocha was a better on field footballer than them all

Laliga never really liked Ronaldo, one of the reasons he didn't win Laliga player of the year more than once

Lol... I wonder what Messi does on the pitch these days

Only enemies of truth will not support or vote trump for 2nd term

MrMou:
You're already changing topic oga!
Tell us why you want Messi to singlehandedly win his finals even after being the best player in the entire tournament when you butt-lick a glory hunting tap-in merchant who doesn't even end up being the best player in his team in these tournaments, runs away in these same finals & claims glory after the teammates have done the job?

I don't have time to argue blindly with you

Ronaldo 2 international trophies
Messi 0

MrMou:
Just like a certain glory hunting tap-in merchant has in 3 finals! Only reason he has 2 trophies is the super teammates who do the hardest part of the job when he runs away like a chicken or flops so bad! That's why the tap-in merchant wasn't even his teams best player at the end of those tournaments!

At the end being the captain of the team, he has two trophies (senior), how many does your goat have?

MrMou:
No doubt. All thanks to the real heroes of Portugal, Nani, Bernardo, Guedes & Eder, & not some glory-hunting tap-in merchant who runs away in finals.
My happiness is we'll never ever get to hear that dumb trash of Portugal having only trashy players again just just because sycophants of the tap-in merchant want to hype him.

Lolssss... Runs away from finals... You should be ashamed of yourself that your GOAT has played 4, and flopped in all

AmazonTopaz:
Love alone would not do it for me in a marriage or relationship.
I need the one that would understand me.I don't even know how to love so it is better the guy has the upperhand in that area(love or understanding)
To me understanding summarises love
Just understand me

How can a woman be understood when the man was sleeping when she was created??

It's better to love than understand