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Ozkar:
go and watch their asssists on YouTube. Many of Messi's assists are breathtaking. And those are simply the ones teammates score. If you watch Ronaldo and Messi often, you wouldn't even be making these comparisons anymore.

There's only one individual criteria in which Ronaldo isn't completely blown away - goal scoring (and Messi is still better), so you guys try to drag in trophies (which is a team achievement). When you realize Messi still has more total trophies, you quickly center on UCL and Euro, and try to pass off La Liga as too easy

In the end, it is a crap claim that Ronaldo wins trophies with average teams.

Why doesn't he do this magic with Argentina??

kerzhim:
No! Tottenham go open eyes dey look abi? Make the time reach, dem no go tell blind man say rain dey fall.

My Barcelona brother, why you no want make Liverpool win UCL na??

So Guardiola becomes 4th coach to win EPL back to back... E pain me o... Barca fans no go let us hear world now... Buh before you call EPL farmers league, remember

1. 3 coaches have won EPL back to back before

2. A coach has won EPL 3 times on a roll

3. No striker has scored 40 league goals in a season in the EPL unlike some farmers league

4. Manchester United has won EPL 13 times

5. Finally, Man city has won the EPL before Guardiola

Mhennnn... This is bad o

Ozkar:
creative Messi, two golden balls in senior international football (one in a world cup tournament!) without needing to win the trophy. Win or lose, he's always the best in his team.

The other dude disappears when he doesn't have the chance to score. Many times, his team doesn't even miss his contributions (or even presence on the pitch) and go on to win anyway.

Lol.... You this Messi fans are clowns... No team misses his presence... Lol, had it not been better than Barca played with Messi against Roma last year, or against Liverpool this year

You mean golden ball blatter gave a player that wasn't included in the team of the tournament or what??
Moreover if Ronaldo played the finals completely of Euros 2016, he would have won the best player of the tournament

However Messi has played 3 finals for Argentina, and lost all... What was his impact??

Ozkar:
no, they went one step higher than Juve could - the semis. Why change the topic though? I thought you guys say Ronaldo would succeed in an average/poor team and singlehandedly win trophies, while Messi needs a good team.

Why didn't Ronaldo stand alone to do the undoable? 9 years in Spain, just two league wins.

Creative Messi, 20 years for Argentina, 0 major trophies

Ozkar:
he had 9 years to do that while players like Di Maria and Ozil left after only a few years.

It is possible due to the simple fact that the assist is awarded to the player that makes last pass, and not necessarily the one who creates the chance.

Which means if Modric makes a defense-splitting pass to Ronaldo and while 2-on-1 against the keeper, Ronaldo makes a simple pass to Benzema who scores, Ronaldo and not Modric would be awarded the assist. Having an assist doesn't necessarily make you creative. It means you touched the ball last before the your teammate scored.

Even a rebound is awarded as an assist, if a teammate scores it. As an example, Juve beat Napoli 3 - 1 this season, and Ronaldo grabbed 3 assists. Guess what, 2 of them were rebounds from Ronaldo's shots
at goal. Only the first was a cross.

There's nothing creative about a rebound. Only means you tried to score and failed but your teammate didn't.

The assists Messi gives, aren't they to the last man as well??

If Liverpool wins the UCL

Van dijk wins the UEFA defender of the season and UEFA club player of the year because Liverpool will likely win the European super cup

If Liverpool win FIFA club World Cup,

Van dijk wins FIFA player of the year and if our GOAT fails at COPA America as usual, then ballondor goes to Van dijk again

Don't be stupid

He did it with Portugal to qualify them for the finals
He did it with Manchester United
He did it with Madrid

He will certainly do it with Juventus

He isn't a failure who has played 3 finals with a particular team, and couldn't win anything

jelel6:
Lemme ignore every unnecessary blabbing until you got to the point where you attempted answering the question ( dodging it actually ).

Of course, Ronaldo has 5 Balloon D'or because he is the best goalscorer amongst that group. But the questions still stands, bar his phenomenal number of goals, he's your Lewandowski or Aguero or Suarez. Or tell us, what does he do differently? Score more goals.

Ehn, There are people who are more knowledgeable about football than me, I'll agree. People like...

Arsene Wenger.

Who's the best footballer on the world? MESSI

Who's the best footballer of ALL TIME? MESSI
Emphasis on ALL.

Wenger is not alone. There are countless football icons who have dared to not only compare Messi with Pele and Maradona, but (rightfully) place him above those two. Countless people. Even teammates of Ronaldo!

So, find those knowledgeable people you where talking about who DARED to put Ronaldo in the same breathe as Pele and Maradona. I can find 10 for Messi. Find one for Ronaldo. Just one and let's see who that is

Everyone knows Pele is the greatest footballer of all time....
Now greatest is what you've achieved as a footballer
And best is how you play on the pitch

So now using these two definitions ,

Can you tell how maradona best Ronaldo, or how he is greater than Ronaldo

Ozkar:
It's easier to decide a game in only two actions when all you do is lurk around the opposition's 18 yard box waiting for crosses and passes you can tap in.

Messi does way more in a match. Whether he scores or not, wins or loses, he's always orchestrating, creating chances with unbelievable defense splitting passes, taking on your defenders.

And no, Ronaldo does not win games on his own. Never has. He needs teammates who can give him good crosses, pin point passes in the 18 yard box and win him penalties. That's the reason he was silent in the first leg against Atletico and didn't even reach the semis - the Juve team isn't as creative as Madrid was.

How then is it that Ronaldo still has more assists than any Real Madrid player ever??

Alzirida:
There is really no such place in the Universe or parallel Universe called Heaven. Everywhere in the Universe is like everywhere else.
In time to come, the Earth will be consumed by expanding Sun called red giant. Mankind is advise to make alternative home in another planet e.g Mars. Thanks to Billionaire Elon musk

Red giant...lolssss... You dumb atheists would be alright finally one day .....

jelel6:
Ronaldo rarely goes missing because what's expected of him is that he scores. what's expected of Messi is that he scores and also assist others to also score. And also assist others to assist someone else to score. I wonder how many MAN OF The MATCh awards Ronaldo has actually won without him scoring! probably fewer than his BALLON DO'RS I think. JUST. A. GOALSCORER.

So just a goal scorer would have over 200 career assists

All these ladies, dem no go act movie but dem go dey buy cars

johnyace:
does the A10 have a fingerprint sensor

No

The same reason Messi lost a 3 goal lead to Liverpool after promising Barcelona the UCL

TonyeBarcanista:
He's the Greatest Sportsman Oga... I suspect you are one of these EPL fanboys that are anti Messi and Barca.

Can you tell us how he is greater than this names in sports history??

Pele
Maradona
Mohammed Ali
Roger federer
Tiger woods
Michael Jordan
Michael Schumacher
Cristiano Ronaldo
Usain Bolt
Serena Williams

TonyeBarcanista:
He's the Greatest Sportsman Oga... I suspect you are one of these EPL fanboys that are anti Messi and Barca.

Can you tell us how he is greater than this names in sports history??

Pele
Maradona
Mohammed Ali
Roger federer
Tiger woods
Michael Jordan
Michael Schumacher
Cristiano Ronaldo
Usain Bolt

TonyeBarcanista:
He is right though!

Messi and Rinaldo have redefined football and created a very big shoe that even greats like Ibrahimnovic, Frank Ribery, Andres Iniesta, Xavi, Busquet etc couldn't match.

Messi is the greatest sportsman ever! Next is Ronaldo...

He is not even the greatest footballer inArgentina , then look at the miles apart from calling greatest sportsman... In fact you Barca fans ehn

olsome:
Messi was the world's best twice without winning champions league...He lost semi finals to intermilan, lost semi finals to Chelsea, and still won the world's best... Even Ronaldo won one of his world's best without champions league

During blatter and Platini abi??

And also Messi failures in the UCL has become rampant too

So Juliet loved iceberg??

Na wa o

Mexico09:
Messi we win both ballon d'or and FIFA best no course for argument reason is because
Messi is highest goal scorer in LA liga
Messi is champions league top scorer
Messi is Europe top scorer
Messi has highest assist in LA liga
Messi is the best player in champions league this season
Messi is LA liga best player this season
Messi has 22 man of the match award this season
Messi has 48 goals this season 2 goals shy of a half century goals
Messi has LA liga title and will possibly win copa Del Rey title
so what next did you guys need from him Messi we win both ballon d'or and FIFA best no course for argument reason is because
Messi is highest goal scorer in LA liga
Messi is champions league top scorer
Messi is Europe top scorer
Messi has highest assist in LA liga
Messi is the best player in champions league this season
Messi is LA liga best player this season
Messi has 22 man of the match award this season
Messi has 48 goals this season 2 goals shy of a half century goals
Messi has LA liga title and will possibly win copa Del Rey title
so what next did you guys need from him

UCL nko?? Stepping up when necessary??

chydozane:
The special one
JOSE

But Fergie has 49 trophies and Jose 25

Does this picture tell us exactly??

God forbid for bank loan... Better to collect from these people that borrow, you can still get people to beg and get more time, Buh Bank, make you no die of HBP

Lolssss try the one from Ikorodu to CMS... I Never fear that kind fear before

MrPRevailer:
They're giving their all to Jesus, who will reward them at the end of this life with everlasting rewards.
God doesn't eat/spend money, but it is scripturally evident that God need worshippers to do the needful for the church.

If a Pastor uses the money selfishly, God will judge him. Bible said judgement will start in the house of God.

You shouldn't have answered that attention seeker

Just received the A20 for my wife and Wow!!!

Fool... Stop joking with fake news like death ... Be guided!!! Thank God you still alive

Messi should have won it if he professed Barca through to the next round... Barca fans don't know how much of a disappointment he was as Liverpool knocked them out, and this has become rampant with Messi now when it matters... Well if he does well in COPA America, then he might have a chance

Ronaldo first season in the league was successful too as he won the league and Italian supercopa, Buh not enough as Ajax also knocked them out

Salah is more deserving coz if Liverpool wins the league and he does well at AFCON... THen salah