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ClintonNzedimma:
bro, I am not denying Messi won by fraud. I am saying both Messi and Ronaldo have been benefactors of a fraudulent system which you do not want to admit, it's balanced. I feel you should use both as scapegoats

Yep I admit Ronaldo's own too... I'm actually talking of this year... why Modric is suddenly so overhyped?

ClintonNzedimma:
just like Ronaldo won nothing in 2013

of course bro... buh Messi started the fraud..

However, Modric had only 3 goals and 8 assists all season, why should he win the BallonDo'r??

So you expect EFCC to go after Tinubu.... Buhari has lost election niyen....

saddamxo:
If Messi didn't deserve it in 2010, xavi or Iniesta deserved , Barcelona virtually won all the trophies � in all the competition they participated in, Barça won 6 trophies that year, which includes-
1.the champions league
2.la liga
3.copa Del Rey
4.spanish super cup
5.uefa super cup
6.club world cup
Virtually Messi won the same amount of trophies as sneider, and was extra ordinarily brilliant individually.
Sneider surpassed Messi in being the Runner in the world cup.
Iniesta and xavi won the same trophies as Messi and even won the world the world cup in that year. So of Iniesta and xavi did not complain about being robbed of the award then Bleep sneider, he doesn't deserve to be in the top 3.

Nobody complains about Ronaldo winning the award in 2013 when his team went trophiless that season, meanwhile there were other great players who won different trophies including Lionel Messi.
Let's stop being sentimental and speak the truth, it's very clear, not ambiguous to understand

Are you out of your goddamn mind... in 2010, Barcelona won only LaLiga-..... please look at the pics again....

Earthbound:
My own is that Modric must win this or nobody else as Messi no dey

Lol... earthbound....

Earthbound:
Better believe I'm all for Modric this year. If not him, then FIFA is a fraud

What about 2010 bro, who were you for....

Another pics for Messilonati fans.... so why didn't Sneidjer win anything coz if you compare Sneidjer performance at the world cup to Modric's, then Sneidjer clearly tops...

5 goals joint top scorer and five man of the match matches....

IntrovertedK:
if all these your points you stressed out is really cool, then can you please explain why Salah made the top 3 then? Except Modric who won the Word cup best player, no other top 3 players won any personal achivement, oh salah did won the pl golden boot while messi won his 5th European golden boot. And aside that, salah didn't win any trophy last season so why substitute someone who won league, spanish league, european golden boot, pinchichi trophy with someone that won nothing at all, and aside the goals Headnaldo had, what else did he win? Anyway, with the way people have bn calling out FIFA on social media for there mistake, they'd surely hand the award to Modric. No one deserves it better, not Messi, not Penaldo, not Sallah. If they dare hand it to any other person buh modric then thunder yaff fire them. And as for 2010, only FIFA can explain. Buh for this year, it's all glaring.

What is glaring this year??

And if you were to pick for 2010, do you think Messi should have won it??

foladj:
When he didn't make top 3, abeg how e wan win am?

Abi na only Messi occupy all top3 positions?

Can you justify why he didn't make top 3??

Sneidjer... 9 goals 12 assists
Xavi..... 3 goals 9 assists
Iniesta .... 1 goal 3 assists...

Ok... UEFALONA that year.....

Sneidjer stats for 2010...

9 goals and 12 assists in all competitions including the world cup year....

Messi had 49 goals and won only LaLiga-

forward to 2018....

Modric 3 goals and 8 assists in all competitions

Ronaldo 55 goals in all competitions including world cup...

Blatter Sha.....

Recollect Messi won the BallonDo'r this year (2010), while sneidjer didn't come out top 3...

If you justify why Sneidjer shouldn't have won the award can you justify why Modric should win this year??

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knightblaed
earthbound
cowbuhari
obaklaz
chiboy1116
clintonnzedimma
introvertedK

BabaO2:
Tightfistedness is okay, but that is not the issue. No need to unnecessarily embellish ambode, he is mostly redesigning and enlarging Fashola's works. The major issue is that ambode is too shamelessly bossy and nepostic.
1. All the people close to him especially family members are put in juicy positions /appointments
2. The wife said she will be paying a woman that gave birth recently 500000 per month salary, how much is PS salary even ambode's salary? If ambode is not stealing how come 500k per month could effortlessly be given out if not from the state covers.
3. Ambode is awarding/fixing infrastructures to his families and close friends...
4. The wife is too power drunk, she got a pastor sacked out of her arrogance..
Two terms is not a must, Lagos state is too dynamic to be run by bunch of unexposed family.

Buh it's ok to be run by Tinubu abi??

come on shuttup... you guys are just proxies used by clowns like Buhari to buy the form... you think Nigerians are stupid... Awon eleribu....

Jesus!!! I can't ever believe that someone like David Mark will have the effrontery to come out for presidential election... this man is in the same mind sphere as Buhari....

Mhen Nigeria is a joke.....

For those of us that know Bambam well right from her 100 levels Bible tumbling hypocritical deeper lifer, she just a person who wants people to be impressed by her acts.....

Where is tyronne Ebuehi, the fair guy that plays 2 at benfica

Who tell you say Airforce get money??

Cowbuhari:
Your list is totally flawed, as a player zidane didn't win as many trophies as Iniesta! And any list that have cr7 ahead of Messi is totally flawed and useless

Are you out of your goddamn mind

Zidane is miles ahead of Iniesta... even the great Ronaldinho can't be compared to Zidane.... We are talking of midfielder that won the world best 3ce... don't ever compare Iniesta to Zidane... ok..

As for Ronaldo and Messi, just pray Ronaldo doesn't win his 6th BallonDo'r this year, and see whether he doesn't top him... coz then you'd tell me why akanu or drogba is rated above Okocha...

KNIGHTBlaed:
Is Henry better than Ronaldinho?

Lailai... buh he was definitely better than Etoo....

KNIGHTBlaed:
Yes... History has it that Weah is the best to come out of Africa... But I watched Weah play and I watched Eto play... I will pick Eto (my opinion cos Weah was a beast as well). Eto was more consistent tho and was at the same level with Ronaldinho (sometimes played better) but because he was black. Okocha ke (abeg o, Okocha was all about entertainment). Like I said when I started my argument... I said Ronaldo of the last 3 years... Ronaldo of Man U and early days of Madrid was something else... But he got obsessed with goals cos he wanted to surpass Messi... I love both of them but Ronaldo got obsessed with goals

With your last comment... I think we've come to an understanding.... ... and yeah Etoo was good, buh there was a reason why someone was called Igwe....

KNIGHTBlaed:
Remove Messi from Argentina and watch what happens...
Before the world cup... 2 Matches Messi didnt play... 2-4 against Nigeria... and 1-6 against Spain...
OK... Messi took them to the finals of the world cup... wetin remain
Took them to 2 finals of South American Championship where they lost both times in penalties
Won them the olympics and u 20 world cup
Just remove Messi from Argentina and see what happens with their current crop of players

Without Messi, Barca would win, yes, but i am not sure they would win all what they have won

Lol... Ronaldo led Portugal to a final ( 3 goals and 3 assists ) and they won the cup.. remember Messi led Argentina to 3 finals and won nothing...

Argentina already won the world cup and COPA with Maradona, not having the same excellent squad Messi has... and remember the biggest player for Argentina is still Maradona, while for Portugal it's Ronaldo, beating the likes of Figo and Eusebio already.....

Before Ronaldo, Madrid couldn't even cross round 2 of champions league, hope you remember that??

KNIGHTBlaed:
It will shock you to know that Eto will appear before most of the players you listed and the ones you intend listing... Because Eto is African and Black was why he was not recognized... Peak Eto > Peak Ibrahimovic

Ronaldo de Lima
Henry
Raul
Gerd Muller
CR7
Lionel Messi
RVN
Puskas
Alan shearer
Pele

All those I listed above are better finishers (goal scorers not overall game play), than etoo...

KNIGHTBlaed:
Messi was on the same pitch with Neymar, Sanchez, Villa even Higuain... They are all starters and Messi didnt stop any of them from playing. Barca's style of play is different from Madrid's... Sanchez's problem from his Barca's days is still the same he has till now.... Neymar didnt shine? excuse me... Ibrahimovic had problems with the coach... Villa didnt shine? But Messi is better them all of them so you dont expect them to outshine him... If not for how wasteful Neymar and Suarez are, you know how many assists Messi for dey count? No dey mention Paco Alcacer... Even Munir play Barca ball pass am..

Ruud boy is just the lazy version of Ronaldo... Just to score and hang around the box... Drogba is good but EPL made him more popular... Eto is a beast and the best player to come out of Africa... Henry and Eto argument is based on personal opinions just like every other argument... I am not a fan of the useless EPL so I don't follow it as much as La Liga... but Peak ETO > Peak Henry....

Lol... Barca fan like you... I understand... like I said, when we are talking greatest strikers ever, Etoo is not in top 5 or top 10 ehhhh... and mind you George weah is the best to come out of Africa, and in terms of football, Etoo no smell Okocha o, buh since Okocha no get record though.... ... and Ronaldo just hangs around the box, you no watch the early years of Madrid's Ronaldo or man utd Ronaldo?? na wa for una...

Cowbuhari:
Using your criteria yes, yes Iniesta should be ranked among the greatest ever. But using mine as a Barça fan he doesn't come in the top ten

Pele maradona and Messi.. Then you can call the rest

Of cos, we all know Iniesta isn't in top 10... buh if we are talking of acheivements, statistics, records, game play then... Pele, Maradona, Delima, Zidane, CR7, Messi, Cryuff....

KNIGHTBlaed:
Henry, Van basten, Shearer, Raul even RVN.... Forget it, not these ones... Henry played for Barca... Eto outclassed him no be mouth. But Arsenal Henry i still respect but Eto is a better finisher... Shearer, Ruud boy (who dash monkey banana na)... If not for the form of Ronaldinho, Eto was Barca's leading man... He didnt win the Ballon d'or because he is African... Still the best player to come out of Africa till date..

Etoo a better finisher than Henry?? When you are talking of finishers ever, do you know Etoo no dey top 10?? I can list 10 better finishers ahead of Etoo...

KNIGHTBlaed:
That's why I said assist pass assist. I know Ronaldo has more assists before now but go check the assists out and come and call them assists again... That's why I said stats padding is different from really working extra hard. No disrespect to Ronaldo but without him Madrid wins 3 out of the 4 Champions League they won. You are a Ronaldo fan and you will not understand but no worry, soon una eye go clear...
Watch Barca and see Messi's assists and know the difference between assists. if not for the wasteful Neymar, Suarez and co, Messi will have more assists. He was still leading in assists when Iniesta and Xavi were still playing, Messi made those guys better not the other way round... Not taking anything from Iniesta and Xavi tho..

If what you are asserting is true, then why didn't Messi make Argentina better, the way Xavi and Iniesta made Spain better??Why does Argentina struggle even with Messi on the pitch since he makes the team better.... Remember without Messi, Spain won both Euros and World cup....

Without Ronaldo, Madrid wins 4?? in the same way without Messi, Barcelona would have won the ones they did win...

Ronaldo doesn't work hard, yet he doubled his tally in goals and assist.... ok o... Messi fan...

KNIGHTBlaed:
Henry, Van basten, Shearer, Raul even RVN.... Forget it, not these ones... Henry played for Barca... Eto outclassed him no be mouth. But Arsenal Henry i still respect but Eto is a better finisher... Shearer, Ruud boy (who dash monkey banana na)... If not for the form of Ronaldinho, Eto was Barca's leading man... He didnt win the Ballon d'or because he is African... Still the best player to come out of Africa till date..

The golden boots RVN won, Etoo no win am o... Etoo never won the UCL Golden boot once for him striking career o.... in terms of being a striker, Henry is far far ahead Etoo.. some persons will even say drogba made a bigger impact than Etoo (Although Etoo was a better striker) .....

However if you say Ronaldo disturbs bale or benzema from scoring or playing their football, then you must also agree that Messi disturbed Neymar, Sanchez, Ibrahimovic, Villa , Paco Alcacer, Higuain etc as well.... coz since you expect Ronaldo to be benched for Bale, then I expect Messi to be benched for either Neymar or Sanchez....

And who did Messi improve, biko??

KNIGHTBlaed:
Did or does any of Bale, Benzema, Raul, Zidane or Guti hang around the box and wait to tap in, nod in or pass/cross for assist? If any of them did, let me know then I'll answer you.
Im not doubting his scoring abilities, but Messi leads him in total goals and assist...

So where does Messi hang around to give his assist?? in the midfield?? coz you'd tell me where Iniesta or Xavi plays.... so bale, Raul, etc play in the midfield for over 14 or 15 years at Madrid??

I know it surprises you that Ronaldo has more assist than all those Madrid legends... however as for Messi I don't doubt, but at bigger stages like UCL, Ronaldo leads messi in assists, where it matters...

KNIGHTBlaed:
Anyday anytime, give me peak Eto... When Ronaldo won his first Ballon d'or, an era of football (the greatest era) was ending... Or where was Ronaldo when Eto was painting La Liga with goals... The real La Liga with strong men o... Not these Akwoche footballers we have now... Peak Eto anyday anytime..

Even peak Henry cannot compare with peak Ronaldo, not to talk of Etoo... if you mention top 5 top strikers, who go put Etoo there?? ....
Delima, Henry, Van basten, Shearer, Raul even RVN... Etoo wey be local champion....

You compare Etoo to Ronaldo... lol....

Ronaldo the legend... worth every penny...

KNIGHTBlaed:
When you asked if Messi allowed the great Henry play, I just knew you probably didnt watch Barcelona when Henry was there.. So Henry didnt play because of Messi, SMH... Same with Neymar? David Villa? and Sanchez? Please stop misleading people.
Ronaldo of the last 3 years na palm wine Tapper (can tap anything into the net), and Zidane made Madrid play in a way that Ronaldo is always free on the field in a position to score and yes, cos he is a very good finisher no doubt. But you guys now want to make it look like Ronaldo does the playing like Messi does (NEVER!). While Ronaldo is always around the penalty box, Messi is always dropping back to the midfield and dictates the play for Barca, he decides the game for Barca and pulls the strings. Ronaldo has teammates that does the work and all he has to do is to stroll around the penalty box and he does that the entire duration of the match (except for only a few times he drops, and not like he can take the ball upfield himself tho). So tell me why that kind of player won't have many assists and goals... Still yet Messi tops him in goals scored in La Liga and Assists (I'm not comparing them both but the way you people carry Ronaldo is like he does the whole playing for his teammates the way Messi does). I always say it that swap Messi and Ronaldo and see who maintains the goal scoring... I am certain Messi will double his scoring ratio cos he will have less work to do.
The people saying Ronaldo does not allow Bale shine know what they are saying but they fail to add Benzema too. Benzema's work rate is very high and unlike Ronaldo he drops deep, same as Bale. Now when Ronaldo does all the scoring (cos he wants to be top scorer at all cost) what do you expect Bale and Benzema to do? In every situation where all three of them have the opportunity to score, it is Ronaldo that has to score, if anybody else scores, Ronaldo is not so happy until he scores (most evident was the last CL final). Why won't he be top scorer in Madrid or did they tell you that was how Raul was selfish? What Ronaldo does is just *stats padding*
Now Ronaldo is not in Madrid and they have continued winning, Bale is playing his best football, Benzema is playing his best football... Benzema has 4 goals in 3 matches, Bale has 3 in 3, and Ramos has scored 2 Penalties already (if Ronaldo was there, he would have scored 7 goals easily then the rest will share 2 and we will not hear word). Ronaldo himself has not scored 1 goal for Juventus yet even tho he still hangs around the penalty box... Does this not tell you that his teammates at Madrid were sacrificing their own personal glory for him to be collecting awards and stats padding?
You now came here to use style to call teammates so you can find an excuse to praise Ronaldo. Yes, Ronaldo is good but stop making it look like he made his teammates better, all his teammates made him better. Ronaldo played for Manchester United at a time when Man U was dominating the league and was very strong in Europe (not the Man U we have now), Man U was one of the best teams and had arguably the best players in England and at that time Messi was just breaking from the youth team into the first team of Barcelona. I won't correct your list of his teammates but please go and check properly and see his real teammates and not Nani and Anderson you have listed here cos Nani only played one season with Ronaldo and was never a regular until Ronaldo left Man U and Anderson never even got to play 20% of any season. You made it look like at United Ronaldo had an inferior team whereas the same Man U knocked Barca out of the CL.
Messi made and is still making his teammates better, apart from the era of Deco and co when Ronaldinho was the main man, the moment Messi broke into the first team, he has been making his teammates better and they all attest to that.... Last weekend Barca had a penalty in the 92nd minute and the last kick of the game and Messi had scored 2 goals already, he could have completed his hattrick but what did he do, he gave the ball to Suarez to score his own second for the night.
Just watch out for Bale and Benzema even Isco this season and see what they will do...
Make I no shout too much make e no be like say person dey take sides... And you even mentioned Paco Alcacer, so na Messi dey worry that one too? SMH

So why does Ronaldo have more assist than bale, or benzema or Raul or Zidane or guti etc??

KNIGHTBlaed:
When you asked if Messi allowed the great Henry play, I just knew you probably didnt watch Barcelona when Henry was there.. So Henry didnt play because of Messi, SMH... Same with Neymar? David Villa? and Sanchez? Please stop misleading people.
Ronaldo of the last 3 years na palm wine Tapper (can tap anything into the net), and Zidane made Madrid play in a way that Ronaldo is always free on the field in a position to score and yes, cos he is a very good finisher no doubt. But you guys now want to make it look like Ronaldo does the playing like Messi does (NEVER!). While Ronaldo is always around the penalty box, Messi is always dropping back to the midfield and dictates the play for Barca, he decides the game for Barca and pulls the strings. Ronaldo has teammates that does the work and all he has to do is to stroll around the penalty box and he does that the entire duration of the match (except for only a few times he drops, and not like he can take the ball upfield himself tho). So tell me why that kind of player won't have many assists and goals... Still yet Messi tops him in goals scored in La Liga and Assists (I'm not comparing them both but the way you people carry Ronaldo is like he does the whole playing for his teammates the way Messi does). I always say it that swap Messi and Ronaldo and see who maintains the goal scoring... I am certain Messi will double his scoring ratio cos he will have less work to do.
The people saying Ronaldo does not allow Bale shine know what they are saying but they fail to add Benzema too. Benzema's work rate is very high and unlike Ronaldo he drops deep, same as Bale. Now when Ronaldo does all the scoring (cos he wants to be top scorer at all cost) what do you expect Bale and Benzema to do? In every situation where all three of them have the opportunity to score, it is Ronaldo that has to score, if anybody else scores, Ronaldo is not so happy until he scores (most evident was the last CL final). Why won't he be top scorer in Madrid or did they tell you that was how Raul was selfish? What Ronaldo does is just *stats padding*
Now Ronaldo is not in Madrid and they have continued winning, Bale is playing his best football, Benzema is playing his best football... Benzema has 4 goals in 3 matches, Bale has 3 in 3, and Ramos has scored 2 Penalties already (if Ronaldo was there, he would have scored 7 goals easily then the rest will share 2 and we will not hear word). Ronaldo himself has not scored 1 goal for Juventus yet even tho he still hangs around the penalty box... Does this not tell you that his teammates at Madrid were sacrificing their own personal glory for him to be collecting awards and stats padding?
You now came here to use style to call teammates so you can find an excuse to praise Ronaldo. Yes, Ronaldo is good but stop making it look like he made his teammates better, all his teammates made him better. Ronaldo played for Manchester United at a time when Man U was dominating the league and was very strong in Europe (not the Man U we have now), Man U was one of the best teams and had arguably the best players in England and at that time Messi was just breaking from the youth team into the first team of Barcelona. I won't correct your list of his teammates but please go and check properly and see his real teammates and not Nani and Anderson you have listed here cos Nani only played one season with Ronaldo and was never a regular until Ronaldo left Man U and Anderson never even got to play 20% of any season. You made it look like at United Ronaldo had an inferior team whereas the same Man U knocked Barca out of the CL.
Messi made and is still making his teammates better, apart from the era of Deco and co when Ronaldinho was the main man, the moment Messi broke into the first team, he has been making his teammates better and they all attest to that.... Last weekend Barca had a penalty in the 92nd minute and the last kick of the game and Messi had scored 2 goals already, he could have completed his hattrick but what did he do, he gave the ball to Suarez to score his own second for the night.
Just watch out for Bale and Benzema even Isco this season and see what they will do...
Make I no shout too much make e no be like say person dey take sides... And you even mentioned Paco Alcacer, so na Messi dey worry that one too? SMH

So why doesn't Higuain and Aguero play well for Argentina... ?? if not Messi that killed their country careers ....