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Wow... Just wow,unexpexted outburst from someone whose job is to censor sensational and sentimental parts of his subordinates work. How he managed to keep so much bile for so long is incredible.what a. Complete letdown. he betrayed his family, profession, age, tribe.I don't see how vanguard can spin this to avoid making a disciplinary action against him. There is no coming back from this. Lesson to all of us is always be careful with your thoughts lest they spill from your mouth, in this case his fingers.

@MADRIDGUY and others who feel offended by the video,you should know our world is always changing and evolving,it didnt begin with the birth of christ or muhammed,it began since the first day of creation,we must change with it or be left in the past and leave this world(yes i mean die and leave it all behind)our religions too have been steadily evolving,but it seems islam is not evolving quickly enough.centuries ago,it might have been ok to kill a man who decides to walk naked on the streets,now you just cant do that,all you can do is call the police.the sharia law which was practiced in ancient arabia is no longer feasible that is why those who try to implement it do it out of hyprocrisy.even saudi arabia is becoming more liberal,just because change is constant.when muslims talk about blasphemy they should know that the christians themselves too used to have the same reasoning,the early christians too put christians to death for it,that ended many centuries ago.christianity also has some way to go but im afraid islam has a lot of cathching up to do,even though islam came after christianity it doesnt not mean it shouldnt evolve also.we should learn to be tolerant,this issue of killing people in the name of islam is just not acceptable to the rest of the world,many muslims of course do not have this mindset,but i feel you as muslims have a duty to islam to help it evolve.shun those who teach violence in mosques and call it Gods will.

imhotep:
are you sure

I'm not from Lagos, we are all Nigerians are free to live anywhere within Nigeria as long as your business is honest.

imhotep:
Thats why Lagos is now Lagos

of course, so let's just live together in peace.enough about all this Biafra nonsense

Throwback:
How dare you say they started tribal politics in Nigeria?

Haven't you heard that it was Awolowo that started it by daring to compete for the premiership of his tribal region, and ultimately prevented Azikiwe of the opponent party from becoming Premier of a region where he was not born nor originated from, but was supposed to be unchallenged even by opposing political parties.

That they went on to to dominate federal offices by appointing themselves to high office and ensuring to use those high offices to recruit fellow Igbos as a deliberate majority, is what is known as meritocracy not tribalism or nepotism.

oh my bad, of course to them if an igbo man is in position of authority, then it is 'meritocracy' when others are there it is tribalism. zik hoped to see his people dominate Nigeria so he stopped the secession bid because he and his people loved Nigeria, not up to a decade later, they hated the word Nigeria and everything that had to do with it . makes you wonder why they couldn't just accept that trying to dominate everyone else was a big mistake

imhotep:
He was the most qualified and competent for the VC job.

Show some respect.

quite amusing, but you can't accept the people there to be the most qualified now abi?your people got greedy and tried to take what belongs to others and you loved Nigeria , now others are doing the same to you and suddenly you hate everything about the country.

Throwback:
It is good that Azikiwe lived to see the result of his shortsighted politics in the life of his people.

It is also good that he also saw that other regions could also populate themselves in federal government jobs and positions like he was doing with his clansmen and termed as meritocracy during the independence government.

he sure did. I sometimes pity them for what they are going through, they started the tribal politics now others seemed to have caught up and learned some new tricks too.

madridguy:
So touching...

This remind me of one India film of those days like that.

Teri ma ba niyan I think. great movie. the thirst for vengeance in that black dog was legendary.

madridguy:
So touching...

This remind me of one India film of those days like that.

Teri ma ba niyan I think. great movie. the vengeance in that black dog was legendary.

Y0ruba:
It is not a case of Yoruba VS Igbo or Igbo VS Yoruba, what is at hand is a problem Yoruba & Hausa VS Igbo.

The early political and military History of Nigeria shows the Igbo have a superiority complex running concurrently with an almost genetic clannish behaviour.

Throughout the early History of Nigeria till now, the Igbos have been known to have never worked within the bounds of ‘partnership’ or respect ‘equality in differences’.

The Igbo wants to hijack your partnership with them and put himself or herself in charge and also discard the equality in differences and wanting things to go his/her way only.

Several important factors in Nigerian history indicate these characteristics of the Igbo:

- The early nationalist movements in Nigeria. Specifically how they brought tribalism into NYM which stalled the advancement of NYM during the period.

- The constitutional conferences before independence which Igbos on several fronts made about themselves rather than let each bloc put in what they preferred for their own region and peoples.

- The development of political parties in Nigeria. NCNC was founded by a Yoruba man. The Igbo man Azikiwe took over, hijacked the party & turned it into an Igbo party. Prior to this, the Igbo formed Igbo union with chapters all over Nigeria which they collapsed into NCNC when Zik took over. This marked start of tribal politics in Nigeria. Yoruba moved out & Awolowo in reaction formed Egbe Omo Oduduwa & eventually, AG.

- The forming of governments at Federal level. Igbo colluded with the North but tried to hijack the government from the North employing several methods. For example with their kin in government they began to flood out en masse to the North especially where they began appointing themselves into the civil service. They disrespected the North and threatened the isolation policy of the Northeen government. This influenced Ahmadu Bello’s recorded speech in an interview. In the West, they did the same thing by appointing themselves above well qualified Westerners, into positions which prompted Sir Ladoke Akintola’s speech that woke all Yoruba sons and daughters at the time to take back their region.

- The Igbo in the constitutional conferences had always wanted Unitary system of government. Their region was backwards and they needed to be able to flood other regions ‘legitimately’ & get a soft landing with jobs and career advancements. They realized they could not do this with the regional government of the day and opted for the 1966 coup where none of their own kin in government was scratched let alone killed but murdered every other person from other regions. This was the point where Igbo ruined their relationship & completely damaged the trust other regions had for them.

- After the coup, the Igbo in the North made music spiting the North, which was publicly played; made posters and printed shirts to taunt the North which were publicly displayed. Of course, they crrated chants mocking how Tafa Balewa was murdered.

- The Igbo had the chance to redeem their image by allowing a more senior army officer of Borno stock to take over but the Igbos in the democratic government of 1966 handed over to Aguiyi Ironsi, an Igbo man. Then came Ironsi who was expected to hand out justice to the coupist, of course, the Igbo clannishness kicked in and he refused. This soured the North and East relationship forever. This also started protection of indicted kinfolks in Nigerian public space today.

- The Igbo who were proponents of Unitary system since pre-independence suddenly had a problem with it. Igbo who previously didn’t have a problem with subverting military ranking system for Ironsi to head the government suddenly had a problem with the same method which produced Gowon. Suddenly the Igbo wanted regionalism & for military ranking to be stuck to in 1967 simply because they were not the one in power and the Unitary was not to their favour.

- In the MKO debacle of 1993. Of course records abound as to how Igbo supported the MKO’s loss of his substantive position as the president elect. Of course, they even had million man march in support of Abacha when he took over. In fact, when Yoruba were locked in a struggle with Abacha/North, the Igbo took sides with Abacha. This made the relationship and trust the Yoruba had with Igbo became sour coupled with the Igbo ills towards Yoruba in the 1960s

- Fastfoward to when Yaradua passed. Goodluck Jonathan could not take up his mandate as the President. He was not only blocked by the North who played hide & seek with Yaradua’s status, the North even played cards towards a re-interpretation of the constitution to keep Jonathan away from assuming the office he deserved. Jonathan’s small Ijaw group went mute, the Igbo as usual all stayed away. Yoruba championed protests that got the attention of the international community & pressured the North into giving into letting Jonathan take up the office due to him - the Igbo did not say a word. The North fell back from Yoruba’s pressure and Jonathan got in. In 2011, the Yoruba gave Jonathan much more votes than Igbos did but of course their clannishness & disrespect for equality kicked in so much that they hijacked the PDP, hijacked Goodluck’s government and made it a Igbo government so much that the one would conclude it was an ‘Igbo Presidency’.

There are more pointers but I’ll leave it at this.

The above goes to show the Igbo are a risky group to work with. It is not just the West that does not want to work with them, the North also avoids them like a plague. In fact, the Igbo kin in the South South stay away from them politically. Inviting these people into a partnership is like opening the door to a swarm of locust, they will eat at everything in their way without respect for the other side.

These facts & characteristic traits of the Igbo from pre-independence abound till this moment.

- They still flood every region trying to dominate by demanding to be voted into offices or for appointments while strictly preventing such in the region.

- They wanted Lagos in the 50s, they wanted Lagos in the Biafra war & still want to have Lagos in 21st century.

- They are still clannish. Look at Goodluck Jonathan’s government.

- They are still sneaky. During Jonathan’s presidency, they loved Nigeria. In fact, a video of Nnamdi Kanu, the leader of the seccessionist group surfaced on the internet where he was super pro-Nigeria. All of a sudden, they no longer want Nigeria because they’re not in power.

And it goes on & on but I’ll leave it alone.

They can not be worked with, QED.

so true,zik was the father of tribalism in Nigeria. now those he wanted to subjugate have turned the table unfortunately his kind of politics is the norm today. so much greed everywhere.

Ever8054:
I don't understand.....how does an ostrich egg promote made in Nigeria goods?...abi the ostrich that laid d egg na Nigerian no?...

it's artwork

ELKHALIFAISIS:
one day the Sun will set in the east and this port is going to be a ghost of it old self..

You don't have to wish others bad, while hoping your situation gets better. it goes against every law of success.

how long will you keep this victim mentality. registration of voters is going on at all the 774 local governments Inec offices nationwide with some additional centres depending on how populated the lga is, please stop misinforming people. when you employ propaganda as your major weapon and decide to achieve your goals by spreading falsehood, no one will take you seriously when you are faced with real injustice. this nonsense has to stop.
cc Amarabae

bakynes:
Sincerely, before the No man's land slogan on nairaland. I never really paid attention to Lagos been a Yoruba state but more of a Nigerian state and home to all Nigerians but since the Igbos started the "No man's land" slogan I have had dislike for some of them.

Even in my neighborhood where I live I walk into circle of Igbo guys talking bad about Yoruba people here in Lagos and you begin to wonder are these not the same people who their properties in Lagos was returned to them when they left during the War, the same people my Grandfather collected rent for his Igbo friend who had to go back to the east during the War and returned his money after the War. These gestures were not showed to them by their kins (the Ikwerre people) after the war. Yoruba people have done nothing but love the Igbos but they always reciprocate with hate.

They have always nursed the thought of taking over Lagos because of its Glamour.

They are the only ones who feels you have no right as a Yoruba or Hausa man in the East but feel they must have equal right with you in the West and North.

They see Yorubas as too gentle a people because they can't try an inch of what they are doing to Yoruba's with the Hausa -Fulanis.
Those ones have instilled fear into them so they know their place when in the core North.

You just described their manner of reasoning, I have come to discover that the best way to turn a fool into a wise man is to call him a fool repeatedly, because he would surely suprise you one day.the igbos are still in shock what their chest beating and inconsiderate aggression has caused,hear how silent the thread is,I think they know it might have been worse, and they aren't sure if it's just the beginning. the day Obiano himself said they built lagos was the day I knew how tact less they can be. the truth is if we wish to chase them out of Yorubaland, we only need to Stoke the flames they started by calling our lands no man's land.

I find it strange how the Igbos seem to think they can do or say whatever they like without fear of repercussions . I always knew that no man's land talk would backfire. I sometimes can't reconcile how some people who can be as smart as geniuses behave so stupidly the next minute.a typical yoruba man knows he is supposed to behave himself when he is in the north or east,even the hausas know this. but the igbo man surprisingly, maybe because of their wandering ways think he should behave in a more annoying and aggressive manner away from home to survive. well I think this is also why they are able to make it away from their comfort zones. but all in all, it won't make for a happy ending.

LordAdam16:
If Buhari cared about his support in the NC, he'd stop the carnage. He hasn't and doesn't want to. That says it all.

Buhari knows the SW will always be divided. Plus or minus Tinubu, the Yoruba muslims would vote for him. The SW PDP would vote for the opposition. Which votes are left for the Coalition of Nigeria that OBJ is championing?

And maybe you're not understanding this, Buhari doesn't care about free and fair elections. And he has set the machinery in place to stop it from happening.

An Aare is crowned, barely two months later the most politically relevant SW politician alive sends him a damning letter, if you think Buhari is relating with Tinubu as a friend, you're sorely mistaking. And if you think Buhari is going to take this sh*t lying down, you haven't been paying attention.

Only you guys have been making moves, he is yet to make his move.

-Lord

this is Nigeria, you have to wake up. even Gej himself is virtually untouchable,and besides you taking this 'ordinary' letter the wrong way. or is it a crime to advice the president of nigeria? well I'm sorry but this is just the beginning of the end for buhari. more will still come and there's simply nothing anyone even buhari can do about it. the people gave him power and the people are going to take it away from him.

buhari has to go, he has failed

buhari has to go, he has failed

buhari has failed, I'm actually hoping he does better than just to re-contest and resign immediately and leave with his cabal. had so much hope that he was going to bring positive change. guess we will have to make another choice

usba:
Joblessness at its peak. If they had a shred of integrity they would have approached their representatives to introduce areas of restructuring but once again they assume Nigeria is a dictatorship where the president can just order reatructure and it is. The sort of unseriousness is money wasted on an advert.

You must know very little if you think those on the list are jobless. these are not your usual paid protesters. Google the names.

GavelSlam:
So be it.

A solution still needs to be found.

Hiding ones head in sand never solves problems.

I'm suprised that you think we don't have a solution. the states have said ranching is the way forward like its done all over the world. the herds men have not even tried it and to think they want free land is just preposterous. they have(must) to embrace ranching, it's the only way forward

nku5:
So you agree my facts are correct and that Igbos were already on top and didn't need to struggle to dominate anybody

im not sure why You care if I agree with you or not. igbos I think need to know the battles they can win and those not worth fighting

nku5:
You are too biased. Nobody is competing with your tribe just relax. You alleged Igbos have been trying to dominate you and I have facts to back up the fact that the Eastern region did not need to struggle with you or anybody for dominance. We were already balling. Not sentiment facts.

For example:

"In 1964 the World Bank named Eastern Nigeria the fastest growing regional econ­omy on earth. At the time of this assess­ment, Eastern Nigeria was made up of the present five states of the South East, plus four out of the present six states of the South South. Reason for the assessment was that in 1964, Nigeria was the world’s largest producer and exporter of palm oil and palm kernel. Above 90 per cent of the palm oil and palm kernel came from Eastern Nigeria. Nigeria was the world’s largest producer of cassava. Above 60 per cent of Nigeria’s cassava was produced in Eastern Nigeria. By 1964, garri, yam and palm oil from Eastern Nigeria were sold in South Africa, Great Britain and the United States. Coal mining had reached commercial production and Eastern Nige­ria had started making money from Nige­ria’s coal export. By 1964 the Eastern Ni­geria Development Corporation (ENDC) was Eastern Nigeria’s next highest em­ployer of labour after the regional govern­ment itself; producing high quality garri, rice, vegetable oil, fresh eggs, frozen fish, frozen chicken, frozen beef, frozen pork and pork sausages, for domestic distribu­tion and export"

http://afamnnaji.com/articles/article_detail.php?article=125&title=In-1964-the-World-Bank-named-Eastern-Nigeria-the-fastest-growing-regional-econ­omy-on-earth

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/34a/055.html

Another example:

Our housing masterplan was second to none. We had big plans for housing. Read...


http://www.fmbn.gov.ng/doc/CorporateHistory.html

Federal Mortgage Bank of Nigeria (FMBN) was established in 1956, known then as the Nigerian Building Society (NBS), a joint venture of the Commonwealth Development Corporation and the Federal and Eastern Governments of Nigeria.
Following the introduction of the Indigenization Policy, the Federal Government, by Indigenization Act [1973], acquired the NBS and consequently renamed it the Federal Mortgage Bank of Nigeria (FMBN).

Why are you digressing, i stated that kanu should not have tried to take the Niger delta out of nigeria. if you were the hausa/fulani wouldn't you have resisted such a move too. the Niger delta was of course of course not going to buy your 'we are brothers' campaign to swallow them up in an igbo dominated country that's why kanu failed. he didn't want to secede with igbos alone he wanted the oil. just like ZIK wanted Nigeria for the igbos to roam free and do business that he opposed a secession clause. it was basically the same plan with slightly different factors. if anyone else attempts what kanu did, that person will still fail

nku5:
Oga disprove my facts with superior ones...If you have any

what facts, you stated what was clearly your opinion. with all the firsts recorded in the southwest through the leadership of PA AWOLOWO you still had to claim the se was the most developed region. why exactly should I argue with your sentiments?

nku5:
100% false oga. You are speaking from a point of bias and lack of information

1. There are indigenous Igbos in the Niger Delta as there are yorubas in the North Central or Hausas in Cameroon, Niger and Chad etc

2. There are oilfields in Igboland and when I say Igboland I mean SE in this context not even Igboland in the Niger Delta. Anambra has an estimated $5 billion worth of untapped liquified natural gas

3. Read more history and less propaganda. Igbos have never needed to dominate anybody. It was never in our culture before the white man joined us to hausas and yorubas. Incidentally it is the yorubas and hausas that have a history of always trying to subjugate others. If you want facts I can give you. In the 1st Republic of the 1960s the Eastern region was the fastest growing region in the country with booming infrastructure, plenty of army officers, etc We were already dominating so why would we need to subjugate anybody.

You can belive whatever you want. have you asked why ZIK didn't want the secession clause? you said the eastern region was the fastest growing and you wanted to share your resources with the rest of us abi. well we saw through it. so what changed? and don't use the Civil War as an excuse. why do people still keep running away from the south east. if you talk about Infrastructure, I'm sure kanu had the opportunity to help change that but his eyes never wavered from total ownership of the oil.greed and arrogance are two deadly combinations

nku5:
Northerners seem more reasonable? What is your basis??

Like I said before if Kanu was a violent agitator like Gani or Shekau things would have been different today..Whether or not you like Kanu or Igbos is immaterial. The man was right about everything and he gave everybody an opportunity to fight for their future but petty fault finding and FEAR to challenge northern supremacy and status quo prevailed. Enjoy Nigeria as it is na una sabi

of course the rest of us didn't like him,what was he fighting for? a biafra that sought to seceed with the Niger delta. the nations source of wealth. no need sugar coating it, oil is the unifying factor in nigeria. kanus. maps were not only so outrageous, it was a declaration of war. the Igbos wanted to seceed with Niger delta and be the sole benefactor of the oil.the maps also included buffer states like benue to shield them from the Northerners. everything all worked out, but arrogant in that you thought we were blind to it and would just allow it because you could insult us. just like they attempted in the sixties to control the economy, much so that your father Nnamdi Azikiwe opposed the insertion clause in the constitution which would ironically have given the igbos the legal backing to seceded sixty years later. you igbos need to stop trying to conquer the rest of us. you would only get defeated and subjugated further.igbos should rather fight for their rights and not try to dominate others.

there was obviously a time kanu could have negotiated with the government. why didn't he?he could have successfully negotiated a lot of concessions for his people but that arrogance and rigidity prevented him for being reasonable. he was probably also concerned about his image, not to appear as a sell out. why should that be the case. the ipob struggle was selfish. even the SS saw this that's why no one raised an eyebrow when kanu was removed. it's even more baffling that his vocal internet warriors seem afraid to ask where their leader is

nku5:
1. There is a clear difference here. Yoruba elders declared disenchantment with Nigeria when IBB annulled MKO Abiola's victory. Dr. Fasehun formed OPC and Gani joined. Later Gani fell out with Fasehun (who he called a sellout). Gani took his elders struggle to a new violent level. Many Igbo elders on the other hand had nothing for the youths to follow except for their stomachs. That's why a young man had to do something bold.

2. It is time to get over navel-gazing about "insults". Nnamdi Kanu brought more pressure to the national question than any other person or group since the civil war. Was it worth abandoning the most pressing issue because one man offended you?

we are over his(kanu's insults) but that wasn't my point.im saying it was because of those insults that many of your youths followed him, you still have to learn to be diplomatic. The fact is the Northerners seem more reasonable than igbos even if there are ruthless and pretty much dangerous. igbos need to stop being rigid and listen.the only time NK had an iota of reason was when he got bail and was seemingly concerned about the plight of some hausa inmates he met imprisoned without trial. imagine if he had continued on that path. he would have gained followers from all over nigeria and be powerful enough to actually make a difference. he went back to his nonsense and the rest is history

there was always something fundamentally wrong with the IPOB ideology.the igbo culture doesn't value respect as much as the yorubas, didn't encourage humility like the hausas and this was a big problem. diplomacy is the most valuable tool recognized in negotiations today. diplomacy doesn't say you shouldn't hate,or kill, it says you have to be reasonable, capable of restraint,and flexible, able and willing to appeal to the other sides sensibilities . diplomacy is virtually non existent in igbo culture and that adversely affected the fight. many things kanu and ipob did were just downright distasteful, unnecessary and in bad faith.like kanu, the igbo youths were drawn to braggadocio, they were tact less as you would have noticed,they never listened. listened in the sense that they were so arrogant they believed they were never wrong. they loved kanu for his insults to the yorubas and hausas, they loved him not because of what they wanted to accomplish but because he could dehumanize us in every way they dreamed. they lost focus.their fight shouldn't have been to trample us but to better their lots, either in nigeria or in biafra. what happened when the python came? , they scattered. self-doubt may be generally bad but if you aren't flexible,you end up becoming a tyrant. Kanu and ipob never listened to suggestions, they did things their way and believed no one e could question them. kanu as a leader should have not been so arrogant to dismiss advice from elders. he should have known that other people's opinions matter too. he kept insulting and annoying the rest of the county. no one was able to slow him down even the elders from his region weren't spared. Gani Adam's always submitted to the elders, that's why the Yoruba nation rallied to him when obasanjo imprisoned him. kanu believed Althouse who didn't completely agree with him were against him and in the end, almost everyone who mattered stood against him. igbos need a leader who listens, not some power drunk scum. the anambra election boycott order was the last straw, I'm sure many elders reached out to him to reconsider but he refused.

IkpuMmadu:
Well nobody is inferior to Igbo...every human are equal ....so I don't think so bro

Just the heroic deeds of Igbo must be acknowledged and respected

i couldn't agree more. glad to hear someone tell it that it is, because we are all indeed equal.

Op can you tell me which of these you consider to be facts in light of the article
1)is it that you consider the igbos to be equal to other Nigerians and owing to their heroic efforts of resisting the British shows they are no push overs therefore deserve their full rights just like any other nigerian
2)do you feel others are somehow inferior to the igbo, because they could not resist the British as much as the igbos. if you think so pls state the major differences
other igbos apart from op should also share their views