₦airaland Forum

wristbangle:
When OBJ left, why is the debt increasing on monthly basis under GEJ? It's about the leader abeg. Adeosun under OBJ would still perform better than under PMB.

OBJ, GEJ and PMB cannot be gauge as a world class leader but it was a bit fair under OBJ. It would have been the best under GEJ is not for the case of massive corruption. PMB has not impressed me so far but in terms of managing resources under depleted forex earning and security threats, I would give him 5/10

It should have been the best under GEJ but the fact that corruption rained supreme made the case for castigating the woman considering that she wans the coordinating minister.

I think your evaluation of PMBs achievement as it relates to resource management is far too stingy when you consider what has become of Venezuela in the wake of depleted oil prices.

You can only imagine the tragedy and sorry state Nigeria would have being in had we continued on the Okonjo path especially if we take into consideration of the various security challenges facing the country at the time PMB came to power.


Before we condemn PMB next time maybe we should look at Venezuela as a reference country of what could have been had this man not come in.

madridsta007:
LOL.

From your vantage point as a Nairaland critic on social media you know better than Obasanjo the President of Nigeria at that time, who appointed her?

LOL. Your arrogance eh?

No from the vantage point of Charles Soludo who was in government with her and who provided the information I have up there.


By the way Obj didn't give details of her contribution to the debt relief he only mentioned her as a negotiating member but Charles Soludo did.


You can read for your personal education and future reference.

Your major role as stated in your CV was to lead the team to negotiate the specific terms of the relief, having fulfilled the conditions. I still believe that Nigeria should have gotten far better terms than you negotiated. Of course, with your eyes on returning to the World Bank after office, I did not expect you to boldly stand up to the donor community in defence of Nigeria. Was there a conflict of interest on your part?

By the way, can you tell Nigerians why you were eased out as Finance Minister and you cried like a baby begging OBJ to still allow you remain in the Economic Management team—- barely few weeks after the debt relief? Why were you eventually also removed from the economic management team if you were so important? Ironically, President Jonathan has recycled you, with a bigger title and greater responsibilities. But the difference is that the team that did the actual work is no longer there, and the world has seen that the king is Unclad.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/176097-soludo-replies-okonjo-iweala-accuses-her-of-forging-national-economics-statistics.html

LOL. Your Ignorance eh?

erico2k2:
Bro are you OK ? This Was when oil was $25/barel

Wow! are you here for insults or discuss.


I won't trade insults with you it's a sign of a weak mind.


Before I go let me educate your ignorance.

At $25/barrel Okonjo(a professor) was borrowing to pay salary. Is that her back up mechanism?

At the same $25/barrel the Kemi Adeosun(an HND graduate) took over and never borrowed to pay salary. Instead she turned things around and started borrowing states money to pay salaries.

I won't dignify you with a response again


Bye.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/176097-soludo-replies-okonjo-iweala-accuses-her-of-forging-national-economics-statistics.html

logica:
Here you go:

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/176097-soludo-replies-okonjo-iweala-accuses-her-of-forging-national-economics-statistics.html

God bless you richly for this.
You will never lack.



This goes straight to my archive.

erico2k2:
Bro are you OK ? This Was when oil was $25/barel

Wow! are you here for insults or discuss.


bye.

erico2k2:
she had a back up mechanism which worked hence we did not even feel the credit crunch

She had no back up mechanism.


It was simple. Nigeria had more than enough to go round for both the looters and the economy to survive.

Nigeria was earning more than twice of what we are earning today plus the $64billion reserve left by the Yar'adua administration.

The moment the income went down, the country ran into trouble because the looters won't stop and the economy paid the price.

erico2k2:
realy?who else apart frm Nigerians know who they are?but the minister of finance was working for world Bank .
you think say nah Beans ? ?

No be beans I know but you need to read the criteria for the relief and what Soludo wrote about Okonjos contribution to the debt relief. An economic minister was not one of the criteria only transparency was needed and those three I mentioned provided the transparency needed. Okonjo was just a poster baby to make things appear more professional.

Even the likes of Soludo, Obi and ribadu were angry that she didn't get a better deal that an ordinary economist could have gotten a better deal let alone someone of her standing. That was according to Soludos statement when He and Okonjo had a clash either during the austerity that saw the FG borrowing to pay it's workers before the election or after she had left the government. I can't really remember the exact time.

Okonjo was just like an image maker. She was the smoke screen, the screen saver for the hard workers in the back ground. The likes of Charles Soludo(CBN) Obi Ezekweseli(Due Process) and Nuhu Ribadu(EFCC) were the actual hard workers that made the relief possible.

Na wa o

nice

All of them are rogues.

MRLANNISTER:
According to you, these rights include taking up a fellow student's seat when they go to the toilet?

First when did it become a criminal offence or when did it become an offence at all?

When did a class seat become an entitlement that the lady cannot get another seat?

Is he the first person/student to have a disagreement over seat.

Why is he the only one punished and not the two students? because he has been prewarned.


The fact is that the guy was never given a fair chance to start with. That, itself gives a sign and aura of bias. The warning was based on some trumped up allegation of insubordination that was never investigated to confirm it's authenticity or it's legality.

They claimed the warning was predicated on his University days behaviour. My question is, is he the first law school student to have a history of being rusticated from university. Were the others issued a pre admission warning.

spidermans:
. Jomo ,you just spoke my mind; all I see here is just a bunch of cowards and hypocrites as you have rightly said. My perception of the purported unruly behaviour is just mere fabricated lies in an attempt to deal with him, he must have stepped on toes ( this guy doesn't seem an a*s lick*r). Associations in Nigeria are worse than most cult groups out there (NBA not an exception) ,and they will go to any length to destroy his career ;worse still is the attitude of Nigerians... they sit in the corner of their room, folding their arms and comment : 'somebody out there will do something about the problems in our society'. Cowards!

@bold is the main point.


The guy was never given a fair chance to relate with his mates to start with just based on some trumped up allegation of insubordination that was never investigated to confirm it's authenticity.

They claimed the warning was predicated on his University days behaviour. My question is, is he the first law school student to have a history of being rusticated from university. Were the others issued a pre admission warning.

Nigerians are naturally cowards and we never want to challenge anything. Fela said it a long time ago. The anoying thing is that they tend to gang up against anyone challenging the illegal status trying to label the person as the villain.

oz4real83:
I am ashamed if this is coming from a school that trains our lawyers. It is a case of victimization. Why will u give a warning letter when he hasnt committed any crime? All his crimes were done in the university environment. If the university deemed it fit to have allowed him to graduate and did all his clearance,why would the law school bring up the issue again? Why declare him already guilty in the law school when he hasnt been accused of any crime within the law school? His actions were predicated by the actions of the law school.

irynterri:
From this write up it is quite obvious that this lad unlike the average Nigerian is not willing to "adapt" or "suffer and smile",he knows his right and still fights to get it without fear of repercussions,if we had a million of him in this country, our politicians would not be this useless, I was expecting UI to state why he disturbed "public peace" and why he was charged for "insubordination" but they smartly avoided it.Mr man, you are destined for great things,they can't stop your shine, go into politics and be the change we need, then they will come begging at your feet.

Honestly these are the most sensible comments I've seen here. Other comments just reveals what Nigerians really are. Cowards and hypocrites.


Honestly I see alot of my self in this guy. Someone who never backs down from his believes. The only thing that makes him appear more stubborn is the fact that he is a law student who knows his rights in the ambit of the law. I will advise the guy to leave the shores of this oppressive country and go to a more organised environment.

Basic123:
Danjuma Goje has always sounds very unintelligent!

was he not the one telling Fashola on one senate plenary that "this is not lagos state",an insult to people of the state and its legislature!....Danjuma goje has always been foolish!

Is this the kind of people northerners elect?


The funny thing is that I don't think the northern elites really vote and illiterates that do, tend to vote another illiterate.

UnknownT:
The issue here is not marrying more than one wife, the real issue here is marrying women when you know you can't afford to take care of them and their children. Imagine telling the wives to go to their family houses and eat.
Please Moslems in the house, I know it's within your right from the Koran to marry up-to 4wives, please I want to ask, what does the Koran say about taking care of your wives?

Sahih International
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].

If only those people truly understand the punishment attached to disobeying Gods instructions, most of them will even prefer not to marry any wife if not that it will also amount to disobeying Gods instruction that we must marry.

That guys judgement will be suspended till his wifes arrives(dies) to testify against him on how he treated and managed their affairs.

Every man will have his wife(s) and children testify against them on how they managed their affairs as it relates to Gods instructions while on earth.

These people are sick.


The ages should be something like this

President. 35

Governor. 35

Senate. 30

HoR. 25

Chairman LG. 25

Councellors. 20 or even 18


Danjuma Goje should go and tell his people to start educating their women. The time of "some states don't have" is past. If you don't have, start making them. We should not be bending the constitution for the incompetence of some.

This was same excuse they gave for university entry qualification and more than 50years after independence they are still yet to catch up. They cannot keep dragging us back.

adedayourt:
Mr Oga I doubt I worked in d said branch of Gtb cus if u did u wud kno it has a gate. . . .

Lemme ask again. . . . . Did u or do you really work der?

Oga I repeat stop embarrassing your generation.


GTBank anthony branch do not have any gate. The location of the branch itself makes it very impossible to have any gate whatsoever. It is located facing the roundabout that linked Ikorodu road to anthony bridge enroute Oshodi. Even it's front is curved.


The building is the tallest in the whole anthony village so it's visible from far away. By the way GTBank owns that building so don't tell me maybe they moved.


It is right at the end of the anthony bridge.


Only one of your pictures is showing and even from that picture It is clear to anyone that that is a newly built branch. Probably Ilupeju branch or something else.
Instead of wasting your time and risking you life taking picture of a bank branch, you could have walked in and ask what is the name of the branch. Location does not determine the name.


I am not here to prove to you if I worked there or not cos you're obviously not worth it. learn to accept what you don't know when someone who knows tells you.

careidon:
@jomoh - thanks for the info.


@DTaj
Bros, you mean previous JAMB Registrars/Secretaries managed to spend all that's generated from form sales (from over 1.4m students that's over N7b) and then their budgeted subvention too!! going on for the past 40yrs before this Oloyede?!!

Why was there no question from the Education ministry... sorry my shock got the better of me - have forgotten this is Nigeria (anything goes and they are all in on it)

Imagine what NECO and WAEC provosts too would have been killing.


Actually its in all the govt. parastatals allowed by law to collect any money - NCC (2% from all telecos), NIMASA (0.5% in USD on all imports), NHIS, Fed Mortage, CAC (generating over N5b too as claimed by the staff union leaders currently on strike), PENCON, NNPC (always in debt), SEC, NDIC etc. they all spend the collected monies and their budget subventions and often go into negative balance.

I believe ChiefOlabowla is wrong, he should check the above too. Nigeria I hail thee.

Honestly if all nigerian revenue generating agencies can be remmiting his 80% of what they generate, we will discover that Nigeria is far richer than most G20 nations.

asuustrike2009:
He does practice what he preaches just that he's raw on the government just like the prophets of old.

Firstly prophets of old don't threaten government with death. They tell them what God has revealed to them and if the government fails for listen, what they said comes to past because it was directly from God.

Can he categorically tell us that what he said was directly from God? If he can tell us that it is from God and Stake his life on it then if elrufai refuses to withdraw, He will die and no one will question suleiman but if elrufai didn't die, then he(suleiman) becomes a false prophet threatening the government.
Which he is because he made the statement out of anger and in the heat of the moment. Prophets of old don't talk or make pronouncements out of anger.

That aside thank God you said in an organized government. In an organized government, they don't wait for their citizens to die in large numbers before they react. Your president is quick to condemn issues bothering outside the country but turns blind to lives being wasted by lunatics called herdsmen and you expect a shepherd of a church to keep quiet and watch his members die like chicken because he's a pastor. Am very such you will be the one to condemn him for not speaking out saying he's just comfortable with the tithes he gets from members.

Let me remind you that our discussion is not about the president. it is about suleiman but I will indulge you on it.

You're right the president was very slow to react which is very bad for any country but does that give a "man of God" the right to threaten a governor that he will die and call for the killing of ANY fulani herdsmen neglecting the fact that there are even christians amongst the herdsmen. Is he not by virtue of his status as a "man of God" supposed to be the better man advising the governor on the evils inherent in the actions he(the governor) was about taking?

Also, why didn't he make this kind of noise when the chibok girls were kidnapped that the FG were not only slow to react but kept silent about the whole saga and went ahead to blantantly deny there was any kidnap. Were the chibok girls not Nigerians? Were they not christians like him(suleiman)? Is it because the then sitting President was a Christian and the present one is a Muslim?

What ever the reason for his silence was, I don't know but the fact that he didnt make noise that time then he should have kept quiet on the killing too because not doing so(keeping quiet) means that to him, what is good for the goose is not good for the gander.

That is what makes him an hypocrite.

DarkRebel69:
I would preface my post by first slaying that false, fib-breathing dragon of yours. There indeed is something called hallucination. It exists. It's palpable. It's real and is as genuine as the tears of a mother bereaving the death of her child.

Interesting theory by the way. It is analogous in scale, I think, to what Holmes professed to John Watson in an episode of the BBC TV show, Sherlock. He said, "Intuition is merely information processed too fast for the conscious mind to grasp". And I subscribe wholeheartedly to that.

There's a reason phrases such as these exist: "My guts tells me that", "by the prickings of my thumb", "I have a feeling".

At the risk of sounding woo-woo, I'd say that the subconsious mind, without our permission, cleaves to “floating information", reams of data sailing lazily in ethereal space, waiting to be tapped, harnessed, and made manifest via conscious thought and/or action.
What other explanation could be peddled when two individuals, with very discrete personalities and experiences, and who are both unacquainted to each other by virtue of geographical dissimilarity, come up unknowingly with the exact same idea or concept? Sheer coincidence, some might say.

Let me prescribe a little anecdotal medicine as well. I've experienced instances whereby I hummed a tune in my head, and almost immediately had someone beside me burst into singing that exact song, as if to say that he or she had heard my thoughts but yet, in an ironic drama twist, remained blissfully unaware of the wordless mental transaction that had just taken place. When such happened repeatedly, I chalked it up to synchronicity of minds and nothing more.

I believe the yawning chasm betwixt the abstract subconscious and the concrete conscious can be reconciled when one walks with the feet of focused, relentless mindfulness. When one begins to drink in all of Mother Nature without a filter or sieve, a form of self-induced low latent inhibition, rather than brushing past things with a divided, diffused attention as is chronically wont in this Big Data Age.

When one has reached that level of high sensitivity to Nature whereby, rather than pigeonhole as useless information, one begins to appreciate even trivias such as the squeaking of rats, or the warbling of nightingales, or the croaking of backwater frogs, only then can one be more attuned to that treasure trove of both past and futuristic knowledge that lay languishly in that area of the wetware that is the substratum of consciousness.

Robertson Davies tightly encapsulates my point when he said, "The eye cannot see what the mind is not ready to apprehend."

Until we begin to pay conscious attention to every single thing, to every nicety, I fear the jewels of the subconscious mind would remain permanently under lock and key, wasting away from abandon and disuse, never serving their [true] purpose of navigating man from the banal, material realm into the trascendental, metaphysical clouds.

Sorry but your post seems to contradict itself.

First you said you wanted to slay my belief that hallucination do not exist but I don't seem to see any where that your post suggest anything to prove that hallucination exist. In fact, what you ended up doing was to support my claim.


Your post even went further to claim that man can infact control his subconscious to stay awake and become fully aware of what his subconscious mind sees and knows.


I still maintain that what you see, you see. you cannot unsee it. The only problem is that did you see it long enough for your conscious mind to be able to comprehend it.

Perhaps this statement in your comment is where you're getting things mixed.

Robertson Davies tightly encapsulates my point when he said, "The eye cannot see what the mind is not ready to apprehend."

Yes the statement is true but if your eyes see it and your consious mind apprehend it, did your eyes see it long enough for your brain to comprehend?

You see after your conscious eyes must have seen something, your conscious mind automatically apprehend(capture) it but what ever your mind apprehends, it still need your brain to comprehend it, interprete it, compare it to what you have seen before that is registered in your brain.

In this case, what your eyes see is not what it should see on a normal day. It is what is meant for your subconscious eyes and mind. So if your subconscious mind comes alive, your subconscious eyes also comes alive and if your conscious self(mind and eyes) happens to be awake at that time, it means you have both your subconscious self and conscious self awake at the same time.

Those who can have the two of them awake at the same time for a long time are the ones who say They are sure of to what they've seen or they are seeing.

Those who only have the two of them awake very briefly are the ones who say They aren't sure of what they saw.

tosyne2much:
Any sane person should know that spiritual world is another world on its own. It's not something science can explain

Though, I don't believe most of these things because they are mere hallucinations

People should stop throwing this hallucination word around. Especially here in Africa.


There's nothing like hallucination. What you see, you see.


When we are asleep, our subconscious mind wakes up and move around. Those are what we see in dreams. When we wake up our subconscious comes into our body and sleeps/becomes inactive.

There are 3 types of people
1. Those whose subconscious wakes up or becomes active briefly while they are awake.
2. Those whose subconscious wakes up and stay active permanently
3. Those whose subconscious dont even wake up for a second.

1. Those whose subconscious becomes active briefly are the ones who sees these things but their subconscious did not wait long enough for their conscious mind to confirm what it saw from their brain. This is when you hear people say they are not sure of what they saw.


2. Those whose subconscious minds stay awake are the ones whose subconscious wakes up and even stay awake long enough for their brain to process the images their eyes is transmitting. These are the people that say they know and are sure of what they saw.


3. The third category is is where 99.9% of humans fall. The remain .1% are the ones in 1&2 categories above.

People call it hallucination because there's little or no statistical data to back those claims up. Even the few statistical data available are not consistent enough to be considered for scientific confirmation. Also because population do not favour them They are neglected.

Someone should advice him to pray in his house before a biafran hunter mistakes him for bushmeat.

Move along Nigerian women! Kenya women are ready to take the very men you call scum off you.

In a very enlightening post that surfaced online, a Kenyan woman has listed the reasons Nairobi women admire Nigerian men and they are quite interesting!

According to Cate Mukei, Nairobi women love Nigerian men so much that they would walk through Sahara desert without water and food just to get one.

“Some even go to an extent of praying about on to their pastors or signing up to online platforms where they hope to find ogas. Naija brodas on the other hand seem to have mastered some of the weird reasons why our women love them and have perfected them.

Below are some of the reasons Nairobi women admire Naija brodas:

1. Visa holders

Mogaka you can keep your Nyamira Express bus ticket we are flying to Lagos. Kenyan women naturally love visa holders. In fact they love anybody who was born beyond Eastern Africa. This is a free ticket to flying out of their country, taking selfies and filling our social media timelines in the name of having traveled ‘abroad’.

2. Hyped lies

Ironically most ladies actually know when Olamide is lying but they still choose to stick with him. they probably hope that one day his lies will translate to all those riches and travel plans he has been talking about.

3. Flashy
Chinedu owns a suit imported from Giorgio Armani headquarters in Italy although he lives in a Sh.15000 servants Quarter in Lavington. But who really cares about his two sufurias when he can show up in a chopper in your village. Omusakhulu on the other hand only owns one three buttoned oversize suit.

4. Talking big

Ikwechuku will promise you heaven and earth but hardly delivers and the ladies know it too. However, there is always that urge to hold on hoping that one day he will keep his word. Then again he is much better than Kamau who doesn’t even talk about prospects of buying a bicycle.

5. Some are loaded

Not every Nigerian man is a poser. Some of them actually have real jobs, real money and outlined ambitions. Who would choose a broke Kenyan man over a loaded Naija broda?

6. Carrot and stick tactics

Naija men can really treat a lady when they have the money but if you are planning to get on a long term plan with Obiajulu just be sure that you will pay for it at some point. A Nigerian man can pay your rent for a whole year but he will expect you to hold forte when things are thick.

7. Promise to take them to Nigeria

If the furthest a woman has traveled in her lifetime is Mombasa, to finally set foot in Lagos, a city she has been watching on Naija movies is a dream come true. Flying out to visit in-laws in Port Harcourt is gisty compared to taking a matatu to Gaichanjiru.

8. They have time

Time automatically translates to attention and that’s why they will notice that your tiny toe finger polish has chipped off. They are the same men who accompany their women to salons and wait for them to get their Peruvian weaves attached on their otherwise scanty natural hair. A Kenyan man doesn’t even know his wife’s best friend because he is rarely with her and when he is he automatically switches off because his woman is a nag.

9. Random gifts

A Naija broda can buy you a Range Rover mid January. Although you might have to sell it some time in future for survival purposes, you must admit that he actually tried.A Kenyan man will only get you a gift when they cheat on you.

10. Bravado

These are the same men who can fly to Europe without a shilling and still survive without being arrested. Women love the dash of danger which makes them imagine how adventurous they can get in bed. Kenyan men on the other hand can’t even go to shopping malls anymore because they are afraid of Alshabaab.

http://www.herald.ng/kenyan-women-will-cross-sahara-marry-nigerian-men/


Mynd44, Lalasticlala, Rocktation, farano

asuustrike2009:
The two scenario are different. One was hardened that he had to be forced to stop his madness on religious bill while the other doesn't care but he's being humble by God .Don't forget there was a condition for the death sentence which is withdraw the bill or die

Even if I want to disagree with your comment which I can t readily do because of access to the facts of the matter, your presentation alone is pleasant enough to want to forego any further argument.


But permit me to chip in this little.

"Withdraw or die" is a very serious threat to life from a "man of God" and quite irresponsible too.

While wishing someone death is a personal opinion and toughts without a direct potential possibility of backing it up with action, threat to life -in this case withdraw or die- on the other hand is a dangerous criminal offence that has the potential of being backed up by action.


In an organised environment, where the laws of the land is respected and upheld without fair or favour to anyone, religion or body, He would have being arrested and prosecuted for threatening the life of a public official and inciting the public against a government.


So you see why I called him an hypocrite. He doesn't practice what he preaches. In fact in the face of law, his own is worst than the people he is condemning.

He, however, said it was saddening to note that there were no water supply facilities in most communities except for urban centres.

Oga o So this people think citizen profiling is what you do with ordinary word of mouth and with unorganized touts.


They should ask the National Population Commission how much time, planning and human capital it takes and ultimately how much they spend and how much the world and UN donates to them for such assignment.

Welcome back to the fold before some Land grabbing developers names the state as part of their Jewish heritage.


While the Odua is consolidating it's lands and heritage some confused people are there claiming it should be prepared, served and fed to them like a toddler.

"He, however, said it was saddening to note that there were no water supply facilities in most communities except for urban centres. "

How can there be water supply facilities when most state's lack master plan. The ones that do don't enforce adhrence to it and the ones that try to ensure people adhere to it is the enemy of the people.


Until we have a master plan for each and every of our states, the government ensure strict adherence to the plan and we, the citizens, start to cooperate with the government on such planning, Nothing I repeat Nothing called infrastructure will never work in this country.


We have land. Instead of is to use it to farm, we choose to keep spreading and building useless houses. A time will come that there will be no more land for us to even build houses let alone farm what we will eat. Maybe when that time comes, we will start eating the useless houses we keep building like birds.

Girls.

This bank has been having problem since TSA started. these are the banks that have no real banking business they only depended on government money.