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[quote author=baby124 post=71045402][/quote]The New Testament clearly teaches that Jesus claimed to be God. The Bible also affirms the deity of Christ. This is evident in a variety of ways. First, Jesus claimed to be equal with God. He could forgive sin, something only God could do (Mark 2:5). Jesus claimed power to raise the dead (John 5:25-29). He claimed to be honored as God (John 5:18, 23) as well as to be equal with the Father (John 10:30). Second, Jesus claimed to be the great "I Am." John 8:58 states, "Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.'" This "I Am" reference is made in connection with Exodus 3:14 where God revealed His name to Moses as "I Am." Jesus' statement, then, is a biblical claim for the deity of Christ. Third, Jesus claimed to be Yahweh God, the same God of Israel from the Old Testament. This included His claim to have eternal glory with the Father (John 17:5), His claim to be the first and the last (Revelation 1:17), His claim to be judge of all humanity (John 5:27), His claim to be the Good Shepherd (John 10:11), His claim to be the Bridegroom (Matthew 25:1; Isaiah 62:5), and His claim to be the light of the world (John 8:12; Psalm 27:1). Fourth, Jesus also claimed to be the Messiah God. This is evident in many of the titles attributed to Him in the Old Testament that are referred to in the New Testament. These include reference to Jesus as God (Psalm 45:6 and Hebrews 1: , Lord (Psalm 110:1 and Matthew 22:43-44), Ancient of Days (Daniel 7:9 and Mark 14:61-64), and as Messiah (John 4:26). These references affirm the biblical deity of Christ.Fifth, Jesus accepted worship as God. Though the Old Testament commanded not to worship anyone but God alone, Jesus accepted worship on many occasions. Some of these included the healed leper who worshipped Him (Matthew 8:2), the ruler who knelt before Jesus after his son had been healed (Matthew 9:18), the Canaanite woman (Matthew 15:25), the mother of James and John (Matthew 20:20), and a demon-possessed man (Mark 5:6). The disciples even prayed to Jesus (Acts 7:59) and in His name (John 14:6; 15:7). Sixth, Jesus' followers recognized Jesus as God. They called Him God on multiple occasions (John 20:28; Colossians 2:9), referred to Jesus by other names used only of deity, such as Savior of the world (John 4:42), and prayed to or worshiped Jesus as part of the Godhead (Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). John taught He was with God in the beginning as "the word" and that "the word was God" (John 1:1). While the New Testament never makes the direct statement "Jesus is God," it is clear that He is referred to as deity in a variety of ways. Colossians 2:9 confirms, "For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily." (See also Philippians 2:6). Those who claim Jesus never referred to Himself as God deny many clear statements in Scripture (such as John 14:6). The deity of Jesus is biblical. Jesus is God, the second person of the Triune Godhead, consisting of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. |
darkchild64:http://www.goodnewsdispatch.org/math.html |
�...tell it to the unlearned darkchild64: |
Wow....great piece! The power of Eros! Again is there a whole man that is immune to the trappings of beauty, maybe only he who has learned to see the gentle and quiet spirit of a woman? Sir Joel, I've come from your post on driving Awo. I'm following now and tapping from your wisdom. Well done Sir. I like to think I'm a writer like you even though it's mostly copywriting and digital marketing I do on freelance basis. PS: I'm still contemplating the power in the line 'Nkrumah friend of Nasser' |
darkchild64:I'll give you this evidence when you name the part of your DNA that tells right from wrong. I'm assuming you aren't African? |
darkchild64:It's been tested for two millennia and still standing. Bring it on!!! |
darkchild64:Ok, let's settle for good and evil that you believe in. For good to exist, there must be a law by which to judge these things. You can't posit a moral law without a moral law giver. Moral law isn't in the realm of reason. Forgetting arguments or theories about origin or destiny. Let's just settle for a discourse on the meaning of your life and mine? On who this moral law giver is! |
darkchild64:Ok. So it's clear you believe in creation. Regarding creation, it's fair to probe the intent - at the beginning Adam made to live in communion with God. Man defaulted and became corrupt, so sticking with our analogy, it's fair to say that all the dogs are bad and you have come to show a way for them to come back to commune with you. Outside of this grace, death upon the dogs...it's still their choice! Who am I to tell of God who changed my heart. Who transformed Peter the coward into a fiery preacher that converted thousands on pentecost, who turned Saul the persecutor to Paul the apostle to the gentiles, Who transforms the hardest atheist hearts to hearts wholly devoted to worship and evangelism. Who died, resurrected and appeared to over 500 witnesses. The Bible is historically verified. Now the Bible says, "Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all!" Romans 1:20 GNT Which leads to the argument for intelligent design. Or do you believe a dictionary is formed by an explosion at a printing press? Or that a tornado going through a junkyard can put together a fully functional Boeing 787 airplane? The human eye is more complex than a dictionary and a Boeing jet. It is a mathematical impossibility to believe in life evolving from nothing, given the conditions after the big bang. Proven by Roger Penrose at Oxford. Now how do we know what is true? First is the question of Origin, then there's meaning, then there's morality and finally destiny. How does a religion answer these questions. And after the answers are given, is there a coherence of answers (no systemic or particular contradictions) and do those answers correspond to reality. But most importantly is the life of the ones who proposed that way to God. Everyone but Christ says, follow this way to God. Christ Jesus says "I am the way, the truth and the Life". The earthly life of Jesus was impeccable. Virtue is lovable when it is incarnated in a man. So if Jesus Christ makes all these claims, I encourage you to find out why. I can help your discovery |
shox:Good. Are you looking for meaning with an open mind? |
darkchild64:My point is, if you changed from being human to become a dog. To teach the dogs how to live, to fulfill them. And you made it possible for all of them to have a human spirit and act human even in their doggy nature. And they chose to rebel, to be a law unto themselves and reject your spirit - your offer of salvation. Choice is sacred and you must respect it, they rejected your life. So... |
shox:You're still missing the BIG picture. No human intellectual ever answered the question of life's meaning. Or as CS Lewis puts it, if you were a ship on the high seas, and you had personal ethics to keep you from sinking, social ethics to protect you from conflicts... There's an all-important question of why are you even out there in the first place? Or if life is an effect, someone has caused it. Don't you want to know why? |
YesNo:I'll pray for you. But your reaction has no commensurate relationship with my post. Whatever your troubles are, there's always help. Don't drown your conscience, you're on the right path. Hope you find peace soon. Again I'll pray for you... |
darkchild64:...says the man who has over 100 million cells in his eyes which which he sees his screen What kind of evidence do you want? Evidence of human origin? Comparison of world religions? Reflections on the meaning of life? truth about human destiny? Or for God himself to change your heart? |
Donspicey: I believe in the Good news of Jesus Christ. I'm led by the spirit of God. It's just that you seem to think there's no reason to believe, just faith. You seem to believe that science disproves religion, which has never been the case. I'm only concerned about your soul. |
Your ancestors worshipped gods and I'm not saying there aren't bits of truth in their worldview. I'm Igbo and know the ways of my fathers, but there's a place for objective reality. All religions cannot be right. Subject them to tests of truth and there's none that gives the answers like Christ Jesus. Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all! Romans 1:20 GNT Question your ancestors worldviews, it will not hold up. Seek Christ before it's too late. shox: |
...There's a natural mystic flowing through the air, if you listen carefully now you will hear ...Might be the first trumpet, might as well be the last... According to you, there are no absolutes except the absolute of nothingness. Which means your life has no meaning? Please read this quote from God and the astronomers by Robert Jastrow --- "At this moment it seems as though science will never be able to raise the curtain on the mystery of creation. For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries." Hakeem12: |
Is it not logical and rational that outside of space-time, the beings there can affect each other with stimulus beyond your comprehension? darkchild64: |
Simply put... Jesus defined good or goodness as 'being one with God' "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone." Mark 10:18 "For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God." Romans 8:14 You need God to serve God. You can only serve Him in truth and spirit. Except you're ready to believe in good works only leads to salvation - to reinvent the gospel. darkchild64: |
Two books you don't understand. Is truth exclusive? Yes! Do all religions say all religions are the same? No! So who's telling the truth? ...Are you interested in the truth? CHARLOE: |
Your ego is so big that it must nearly impossible for you to believe in John 3:30. If only you were interested in addressing life's critical questions, you will see the truth. shox: |
Did we come here by chance or were we created? If by chance, then no biggy. Everyone is going to oblivion. But there's convincing reason to believe in God and accept his offer of salvation. Be concerned for your own soul! Warning: There'll be questions without answers. Faith! While it makes sense to believe - it is ludicrous to think that we're all just dancing to the tune of our DNA in a by-chance universe. Donspicey: |
I can't understand how. Even when it makes more mathematical sense to believe in a creator. Why are you saying this? Why do you want the OP to be wrong? Or have you never read 'Brave New World' by Aldous Huxley. How much longer will you resist Nwa afor? Uwa bu ahia... NdiaraIGBO: |
Before fighting the evil in the world, check the evil in your own heart. You want reason? Don't drown your conscience. Be willing to ponder on Origin, meaning of Life, morality and destiny. Question your worldview. Go on your knees, pray to God (what have you got to lose?) Seek for that Person who will not only change what do but transform your heart hungers. YesNo: |
This is you in a picture! And please do tell, have you found the part of your DNA that informs between right and wrong? You have the opportunity to gather gold and yet choose dust. How do you live with yourself? hopefulLandlord:
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According to your gospel, man is saved by works and not grace. And that their is no need to confess Jesus as Lord. This is wrong on all counts - please refer to Romans 10:9 and Ephesians 2:8. dingbang: |
You so wish it were fake that your emotions, intellect, and lifestyle register and project your 'bible is false' theory as fact. You don't know the story but you call it a myth. Or could you be another emperor boasting the finest threads but with no clothes? Hanseel1: |
There's a world of difference between knowledge and wisdom. This problem here is not intellectual, it has its roots at the boundary between soul and spirit, Who shall cure it? |
I understand you very much and believe that this narrative must change. We must begin to see raw materials and it's entire value chain. And regardless of obstacles, build generational businesses peacengine: |
Reminds me of Paulo Coelhos 'The Alchemist' Maktoub! (It is written) But now that many of us see what they're doing, and that there's a method to the madness of creating economic value, still the innate craving for oyibo life persists? as if there's no commitment to the motherland ![]() peacengine: |
"This life's dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole and gourds you to believe a lie when you see with and not through the eyes" |
Quite frankly, the headline is misleading There's more to this story than meets the eye or heart. Expecting a robust response from the yellow boys. |
, Lord (Psalm 110:1 and Matthew 22:43-44), Ancient of Days (Daniel 7:9 and Mark 14:61-64), and as Messiah (John 4:26). These references affirm the biblical deity of Christ.
Remember On D Last Day U Wil Be Judged By What U Believe
I believe in the Good news of Jesus Christ. I'm led by the spirit of God. It's just that you seem to think there's no reason to believe, just faith. You seem to believe that science disproves religion, which has never been the case. I'm only concerned about your soul.