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Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 1:14am On Sep 13, 2018
[quote author=baby124 post=71045402][/quote]The New Testament clearly teaches that Jesus claimed to be God. The Bible also affirms the deity of Christ. This is evident in a variety of ways. First, Jesus claimed to be equal with God. He could forgive sin, something only God could do (Mark 2:5). Jesus claimed power to raise the dead (John 5:25-29). He claimed to be honored as God (John 5:18, 23) as well as to be equal with the Father (John 10:30).

Second, Jesus claimed to be the great "I Am." John 8:58 states, "Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.'" This "I Am" reference is made in connection with Exodus 3:14 where God revealed His name to Moses as "I Am." Jesus' statement, then, is a biblical claim for the deity of Christ.

Third, Jesus claimed to be Yahweh God, the same God of Israel from the Old Testament. This included His claim to have eternal glory with the Father (John 17:5), His claim to be the first and the last (Revelation 1:17), His claim to be judge of all humanity (John 5:27), His claim to be the Good Shepherd (John 10:11), His claim to be the Bridegroom (Matthew 25:1; Isaiah 62:5), and His claim to be the light of the world (John 8:12; Psalm 27:1).

Fourth, Jesus also claimed to be the Messiah God. This is evident in many of the titles attributed to Him in the Old Testament that are referred to in the New Testament. These include reference to Jesus as God (Psalm 45:6 and Hebrews 1:cool, Lord (Psalm 110:1 and Matthew 22:43-44), Ancient of Days (Daniel 7:9 and Mark 14:61-64), and as Messiah (John 4:26). These references affirm the biblical deity of Christ.

Fifth, Jesus accepted worship as God. Though the Old Testament commanded not to worship anyone but God alone, Jesus accepted worship on many occasions. Some of these included the healed leper who worshipped Him (Matthew 8:2), the ruler who knelt before Jesus after his son had been healed (Matthew 9:18), the Canaanite woman (Matthew 15:25), the mother of James and John (Matthew 20:20), and a demon-possessed man (Mark 5:6). The disciples even prayed to Jesus (Acts 7:59) and in His name (John 14:6; 15:7).

Sixth, Jesus' followers recognized Jesus as God. They called Him God on multiple occasions (John 20:28; Colossians 2:9), referred to Jesus by other names used only of deity, such as Savior of the world (John 4:42), and prayed to or worshiped Jesus as part of the Godhead (Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). John taught He was with God in the beginning as "the word" and that "the word was God" (John 1:1).

While the New Testament never makes the direct statement "Jesus is God," it is clear that He is referred to as deity in a variety of ways. Colossians 2:9 confirms, "For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily." (See also Philippians 2:6). Those who claim Jesus never referred to Himself as God deny many clear statements in Scripture (such as John 14:6). The deity of Jesus is biblical. Jesus is God, the second person of the Triune Godhead, consisting of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 11:15pm On Sep 12, 2018
darkchild64:
I agree with you,but don't u think that this is the more reason why you should clearly examine what you believe,human beings want a higher authority that would decide what is moral or not and because of that they can be very gullible to accept anything,now assuming I am right and the bible I not a divine idea but work of iron age men do you know what that means,that means that you Christians are following the idea of that iron age men to be morality, I don't have a problem with the idea of a more intelligent being deciding what morality would be,but we have to be convinced without any iota of doubt that it is not human idea but a supernatural one,without any doubt I am convinced that the bible is strictly the idea of iron age men
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Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 11:12pm On Sep 12, 2018
�...tell it to the unlearned

darkchild64:
I am an African and the answer to ur question is simple
The part of the DNA that tells right from wrong is the alpha region of protein in the 6th chain of the codon that codes for the transduction of the ribosomal lacrimal behaviour
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 11:09pm On Sep 12, 2018
God bless you brother

YesNo:
read properly before you quote me next time.
PoliticsRe: The Distance Which Couldn’t Stop Nkrumah From Marrying Fathia by Jonra(m): 11:11am On Sep 10, 2018
Wow....great piece!

The power of Eros! Again is there a whole man that is immune to the trappings of beauty, maybe only he who has learned to see the gentle and quiet spirit of a woman?

Sir Joel, I've come from your post on driving Awo. I'm following now and tapping from your wisdom. Well done Sir. I like to think I'm a writer like you even though it's mostly copywriting and digital marketing I do on freelance basis.

PS: I'm still contemplating the power in the line 'Nkrumah friend of Nasser'
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 2:25pm On Sep 09, 2018
darkchild64:
Evidence that a spirit exists as u claim
I'll give you this evidence when you name the part of your DNA that tells right from wrong.

I'm assuming you aren't African?
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 2:22pm On Sep 09, 2018
darkchild64:
Shall we subject ur own religion to test,because it seems u are good at judging other religions except urs,it is good you know that all religions can not be right at the same time and let me let you know that every religious group claims to be right,so you saying that Christianity stands out does not make any difference, a Muslim would say the same about his or her faith,same as a Buddhist
It's been tested for two millennia and still standing.

Bring it on!!!
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 2:21pm On Sep 09, 2018
darkchild64:
Let's assume life is an effect as u say,and someone caused it and that someone happens to be god,u think the puzzle has been solved,I can as well claim that god is an effect that needs a cause so we would keep regressing infinitely, the problem with u pple is that u have very limited knowledge and you think you know everything,how about just settling for evidence,stop making useless theories without evidence,if u don't know something simple admit that u don't, I don't know how life started but that doesn't mean I should accept any useless account
Ok, let's settle for good and evil that you believe in.

For good to exist, there must be a law by which to judge these things. You can't posit a moral law without a moral law giver. Moral law isn't in the realm of reason.

Forgetting arguments or theories about origin or destiny. Let's just settle for a discourse on the meaning of your life and mine? On who this moral law giver is!
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 2:16pm On Sep 09, 2018
darkchild64:
fine let's follow your analogy,so let's assume I changed from being a human to being a dog,well before I would train any dog I would give it terms and conditions, "if I train you,you have to be of service to me",any dog that refuses my terms is free to remain the way it is,I would not put any under compulsion, but if any of them accepts the terms and later defaults,I would give it a punishment that is equatable to the offense committed
Now this is not exactly what we see with ur god,did I ever have any interaction with ur god to agree that I would worship him if he created me,and why is it even u a fallible human that is telling me about ur god,why can't ur god personally reveal himself to me in an unambiguous manner,what of other people telling me about their own god,why should I accept urs and reject theirs the same way u claim urs is right and theirs is wrong that is the same way they claim theirs is right and yours is wrong so what test do you suggest we use to find out who is right ?
Ok. So it's clear you believe in creation. Regarding creation, it's fair to probe the intent - at the beginning Adam made to live in communion with God. Man defaulted and became corrupt, so sticking with our analogy, it's fair to say that all the dogs are bad and you have come to show a way for them to come back to commune with you. Outside of this grace, death upon the dogs...it's still their choice!

Who am I to tell of God who changed my heart. Who transformed Peter the coward into a fiery preacher that converted thousands on pentecost, who turned Saul the persecutor to Paul the apostle to the gentiles, Who transforms the hardest atheist hearts to hearts wholly devoted to worship and evangelism. Who died, resurrected and appeared to over 500 witnesses. The Bible is historically verified.

Now the Bible says, "Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all!"
Romans 1:20 GNT

Which leads to the argument for intelligent design. Or do you believe a dictionary is formed by an explosion at a printing press? Or that a tornado going through a junkyard can put together a fully functional Boeing 787 airplane?
The human eye is more complex than a dictionary and a Boeing jet.
It is a mathematical impossibility to believe in life evolving from nothing, given the conditions after the big bang. Proven by Roger Penrose at Oxford.


Now how do we know what is true? First is the question of Origin, then there's meaning, then there's morality and finally destiny. How does a religion answer these questions. And after the answers are given, is there a coherence of answers (no systemic or particular contradictions) and do those answers correspond to reality.

But most importantly is the life of the ones who proposed that way to God. Everyone but Christ says, follow this way to God. Christ Jesus says "I am the way, the truth and the Life". The earthly life of Jesus was impeccable. Virtue is lovable when it is incarnated in a man.


So if Jesus Christ makes all these claims, I encourage you to find out why. I can help your discovery
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 1:44pm On Sep 09, 2018
shox:
Why not?
Good. Are you looking for meaning with an open mind?
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 1:13pm On Sep 09, 2018
darkchild64:
What exactly is ur point
My point is, if you changed from being human to become a dog. To teach the dogs how to live, to fulfill them. And you made it possible for all of them to have a human spirit and act human even in their doggy nature. And they chose to rebel, to be a law unto themselves and reject your spirit - your offer of salvation. Choice is sacred and you must respect it, they rejected your life. So...
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 1:03pm On Sep 09, 2018
shox:
I'll rather seek for Leonardo da Vinci's knowledge
You're still missing the BIG picture.

No human intellectual ever answered the question of life's meaning.

Or as CS Lewis puts it, if you were a ship on the high seas, and you had personal ethics to keep you from sinking, social ethics to protect you from conflicts... There's an all-important question of why are you even out there in the first place?

Or if life is an effect, someone has caused it. Don't you want to know why?
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 12:55pm On Sep 09, 2018
YesNo:
Who is this M0ron?
Did you even read before you quote me And start talking about the evil in your mother's head? please get the furck out.

Telling me. to go on my knees and pray to God. Do you know me? Do you think you even pray? Holier than thou bastaard full of judgemental rubbish.
I'll pray for you. But your reaction has no commensurate relationship with my post. Whatever your troubles are, there's always help. Don't drown your conscience, you're on the right path. Hope you find peace soon. Again I'll pray for you...
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 12:51pm On Sep 09, 2018
darkchild64:
I am not going to accept something I don't understand,as simple as that,if you want to convince me,provide evidence, chikena !
...says the man who has over 100 million cells in his eyes which which he sees his screen

What kind of evidence do you want?

Evidence of human origin?
Comparison of world religions?
Reflections on the meaning of life?
truth about human destiny?

Or for God himself to change your heart?
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 12:45pm On Sep 09, 2018
Donspicey:
So Wat Exactly Is Ur Point??Wat Do U Believe In??Science Or Ur ScripturehuhRemember On D Last Day U Wil Be Judged By What U Believe
grin I believe in the Good news of Jesus Christ. I'm led by the spirit of God. It's just that you seem to think there's no reason to believe, just faith. You seem to believe that science disproves religion, which has never been the case. I'm only concerned about your soul.
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 12:38pm On Sep 09, 2018
Your ancestors worshipped gods and I'm not saying there aren't bits of truth in their worldview. I'm Igbo and know the ways of my fathers, but there's a place for objective reality. All religions cannot be right. Subject them to tests of truth and there's none that gives the answers like Christ Jesus.

Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all!
Romans 1:20 GNT

Question your ancestors worldviews, it will not hold up. Seek Christ before it's too late.

shox:
The truth is that my ancestors did not see Jesus ND neither do they believe that he existed
Am so sure they are not burning in your imaginary hell
Christianity EtcRe: The Mystery Surrounding Creation And Life After Death by Jonra(m): 11:30am On Sep 09, 2018
...There's a natural mystic flowing through the air, if you listen carefully now you will hear ...Might be the first trumpet, might as well be the last...


According to you, there are no absolutes except the absolute of nothingness. Which means your life has no meaning?

Please read this quote from God and the astronomers by Robert Jastrow ---

"At this moment it seems as though science will never be able to raise the curtain on the mystery of creation. For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."


Hakeem12:
We have made it into a mystery.
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 10:45am On Sep 09, 2018
Is it not logical and rational that outside of space-time, the beings there can affect each other with stimulus beyond your comprehension?

darkchild64:
Can you explain to me why a spirit can suffer or enjoy,what is the physiological processes that would lead to a spirit experiencing pain,does a spirit have a nervous system,and don't come up with ur usual antics claiming that I'm deluded,first of all can you even define what a spirit is
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 10:42am On Sep 09, 2018
Simply put... Jesus defined good or goodness as 'being one with God'

"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone." Mark 10:18

"For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God." Romans 8:14

You need God to serve God. You can only serve Him in truth and spirit.

Except you're ready to believe in good works only leads to salvation - to reinvent the gospel.

darkchild64:
The earlie Christians realize that this idea of "Believe in Jesus or burn in hell" is nonsense the better for them
Christians start using ur brain,I'm not asking u to dump ur religion,but think like human beings not like goats,less than 50% of the world population are Christians and by this I mean those who identify Christianity as their religion of course we know that if we screen them properly only about 10% of that actually make a conciois attempt to live according to the bible,so automatically more than 90% of the current world population would be heading to hell,before we now come back to those who ecisted but have died,probably we may end up having at least 80% of the world's population in hell fire if we strictly follow the Christian theology and not mix it up with any sort of reasoning.

For me its total bull shit,and if you don't recognize that then I'm sorry for you
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 10:34am On Sep 09, 2018
Two books you don't understand.

Is truth exclusive? Yes!

Do all religions say all religions are the same? No!

So who's telling the truth? ...Are you interested in the truth?

CHARLOE:
Same way you're condemned already by the quoran for not believing in allah n his holy prophet muhamed (SAW)
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 10:32am On Sep 09, 2018
Your ego is so big that it must nearly impossible for you to believe in John 3:30. If only you were interested in addressing life's critical questions, you will see the truth.

shox:
This got me aswear
Western religion Don kill our moral no be small
So if I no believe one mythical creature I will burn Abi?
Make dem continue
To believe na by force?
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 10:28am On Sep 09, 2018
Did we come here by chance or were we created?

If by chance, then no biggy. Everyone is going to oblivion.

But there's convincing reason to believe in God and accept his offer of salvation. Be concerned for your own soul!

Warning: There'll be questions without answers. Faith!
While it makes sense to believe - it is ludicrous to think that we're all just dancing to the tune of our DNA in a by-chance universe.

Donspicey:
Dat Means All D Non Christians And The Unborn Again Christians Wil Go To Hell Fire,,.Period!!!Accept Jesus And Be Saved,,reject Jesus And Be Condemned!!!'
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 10:17am On Sep 09, 2018
I can't understand how. Even when it makes more mathematical sense to believe in a creator.

Why are you saying this? Why do you want the OP to be wrong?

Or have you never read 'Brave New World' by Aldous Huxley. How much longer will you resist Nwa afor?

Uwa bu ahia...

NdiaraIGBO:
Oga, your delusion is worse.
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 10:11am On Sep 09, 2018
Before fighting the evil in the world, check the evil in your own heart. You want reason?

Don't drown your conscience. Be willing to ponder on Origin, meaning of Life, morality and destiny. Question your worldview. Go on your knees, pray to God (what have you got to lose?)

Seek for that Person who will not only change what do but transform your heart hungers.

YesNo:
Na by force?

Belief is something that comes with conviction and agreement.
The whole write up is kind of saying SOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN TO YOU IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE in Jesus.

That means you are super imposing with threats rather than allowing people to actually have a reason to believe.

So over 3 billion people who don't even have Jesus in their agenda will just BURN IN HELL forever.

What a Joke.
Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 10:04am On Sep 09, 2018
This is you in a picture!

And please do tell, have you found the part of your DNA that informs between right and wrong?

You have the opportunity to gather gold and yet choose dust.

How do you live with yourself?

hopefulLandlord:
Soul? what exactly is that? I looked through a biology book but couldn't find a reference to souls. I looked through a mythology book however and found all kinds of information on souls.
Are there any peer reviewed scholastic research papers published in any medical journals that I could learn more about this thing called souls?
Where is this thing?
how many does each person have? 1? 2? more? it varies?

What gene is it linked to in our DNA?
What kind of cells is it made of or what exactly is it made of?
can we see thing thing with an MRI machine or a powerful microscope?
Who do you think would know more about this thing called souls: a witch doctor from the deepest jungles of Ogbomoso who has had no contact with civilization, or the entire science faculty from MIT?

Scientists study everything; why don't they study souls? Is it for the same reasons they don't study the powers of Deadpool or the magic of Harry Potter?

Christianity EtcRe: What Will Happen To Those Who Refused To Believe In The Name Of The Lord Christ by Jonra(m): 9:51am On Sep 09, 2018
According to your gospel, man is saved by works and not grace. And that their is no need to confess Jesus as Lord. This is wrong on all counts - please refer to Romans 10:9 and Ephesians 2:8.

dingbang:
Not believing in Jesus has nothing to do with religions.

There is a command to everyone.

Love your God and neighbor. The message wasn't directed to only christians but to mankind in general and whoever doesn't believe in the message doesn't believe in the one who sent the message.

There are many non christians who have love for their neighbor and having love for neighbor is having love for God, therefore they believe in the one who sent the message which makes them saved by grace.
FamilyRe: "You Can't Be A Christian And A Feminist" - Nigerian Man On Twitter by Jonra(m): 1:20pm On Sep 04, 2018
You so wish it were fake that your emotions, intellect, and lifestyle register and project your 'bible is false' theory as fact. You don't know the story but you call it a myth. Or could you be another emperor boasting the finest threads but with no clothes?

Hanseel1:
It is a known fact that the Bible is a fake book written by sexist and misogynist men to glorify themselves.
CelebritiesRe: Timaya To Eghosa Agnonifo: 'Stop Beating Your Wife' by Jonra(m): 1:00pm On Aug 28, 2018
There's a world of difference between knowledge and wisdom.

This problem here is not intellectual, it has its roots at the boundary between soul and spirit, Who shall cure it?
TravelRe: Traveling To AUSTRIA – My Experience On A Virgin Passport! by Jonra(m): 4:49pm On Aug 10, 2018
I understand you very much and believe that this narrative must change. We must begin to see raw materials and it's entire value chain. And regardless of obstacles, build generational businesses

peacengine:
Yes we see but it's not meant for us, many of us don't have the capacity to use it grin. For example, Indians run cashew industries in Nija, but what are Nigerians doing about it? We're not interested or las las, we work for them, breaking nuts. I know u get what I mean. We can't harness the wealth for our good even though we see it.
TravelRe: Traveling To AUSTRIA – My Experience On A Virgin Passport! by Jonra(m): 11:14am On Aug 10, 2018
Reminds me of Paulo Coelhos 'The Alchemist'

Maktoub! (It is written)

But now that many of us see what they're doing, and that there's a method to the madness of creating economic value, still the innate craving for oyibo life persists? as if there's no commitment to the motherland grin

peacengine:
Bro, nature is the cause. One man can live in a house for years in poverty, finally he sells the house and moves to his village another person moves in and while gardening he discovers treasures worth millions of $$$ which the former owner never saw while suffering in poverty. What u are meant to see u will see, what u are not meant to see u won't see even if u are sitting on top of it. The wealth in Nija is meant for Lebanese, Indians and a few Nigerians to reap, it's nature that made it so.
TravelRe: Taxify Driver Who Fingered A Drunk Passenger Reported by Jonra(m): 11:06am On Aug 10, 2018
"This life's dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole and gourds you to believe a lie when you see with and not through the eyes"
CrimeRe: Customer Robbed Of N1 Million After MTN Allegedly Gave Access To Her SIM. by Jonra(m): 11:01am On Aug 10, 2018
Quite frankly, the headline is misleading

There's more to this story than meets the eye or heart.

Expecting a robust response from the yellow boys.

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