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texanomaly: Hadn't thought of that. Hmmm. Guess we will actually have to have a civilized conversation. Do you think the group we are putting together can pull that off?

I think its near impossible
But don't listen to mr troll. He's even trolling his own home country. Smh
Edit: @ troll, who told you we'd be lynched for talking about gods existence?
Stop making a bad impression.

texanomaly: Of course I do.

The death and reserection of Jesus Christ fulfilled the law. Because of this, a higher law was given.

And no I don't now want to now have a debate about it.

We will have plenty of that when we all get together. Lord help us on that day.

get together? Cool. Plus, we're saying the same thing ma'am

Logicboy03: Wtf

Logicboy03: I got ur thread kicking.

Drop some tithe

no.

texanomaly: Of course it did. Christ did that. Check your Scriptures again. Compare the Sermon on the Mount to the Old Testiment. I am not saying this in defiance to your words here Joshthefirst. Please, parden me. I simply could not let that one pass.

no need to say that ma'am. I might be wrong. We can open another thread for this issue later.

aManFromMars: Show me one God that this argument can not be made for and why.


Funny. Didn't God's moral code also evolve? What's that old feeble argument about New Testament/Covenant and Old Testament? Grace vs Law?


...


TBC

God's moral code never evolved, but that is for another thread.

Logicboy03: Yes....or else why would you believe in a talking donkey? Or that a magnificent God would prefer to scribble on stone like a caveman?

I anticipated this.
1. Why would you believe in evolution which states a monkey is your distant cousin? Instead of that you're made in Gods image, you ridiculously believe with no single evidence that you're an animal. Is that not foolishness.
2. He gave the law in a means the people would understand.
3. Once you acknowledge God, you realize that nothing is impossible for him

Logicboy03: in other words, you invited me to acknowledge faith....to close my brain to reasoning abi?

so acknowledging faith closes your brain to reasoning?

Logicboy03: 1/10


Try again.





^^^
poor philosophy based on ignorance on evolution and man's thinking ability.


We have laws because we think
We have a better morality than animals because we can bypass our survival instincts with reasoning
The same way I can remove God from my mind because god is a shallow idea

smh. I did not bring you here to rate the thread. I invited you so you'd see truth.

Bidam: Good post. I love this scripture.

(Titus 2:11-14) For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, {12} teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, {13} looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, {14} who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.

thank you sir.

Hello lb.

https://www.nairaland.com/1495052/philosophy-reality

Deep Sight: As such, you say that we should not discuss obtective reality based on anything that we see.

This is comical.

What then may we base any objective diacussion on. What we hear? What we smell? What we reason -- from what? Do not all our reasonings derive from what we sense with our senses. Does not all science derive from what we see and observe.

My friend, I think, with all due respect, that your comments are ill thought and would be better suited to a comedy session.

For they render all inquiry into everything meaningless. As I said, your comments may be said as a response to everything - even as a response to your own existence. They imply that even if I meet you in person, I cannot objectively know that you exist.

As I said, wasteful, and withvdue respect, utterly unserious and meaningless tittle tattle unworthy of any serious minded discussion.

omo!
Egbami oooo!

See finishing abeg.

aManFromMars: ^^^^^^
(joshthefirst style)

Nawa for you ooo.

@ plaetton
https://www.nairaland.com/1495052/philosophy-reality

Of course my philosophy is based on and is knowledge of Gods word.

What is reality? Is it subjective? Or objective?
Is what is real there? Is it the same and unchanging irrespective of time and space, thoughts, etc?
Let this be spoken of in reference to ones thoughts of God and reality.

Here is my own opinion. You can give yours later.
The bible God is objective of course. He has always existed and is always there and all-powerful irrespective of ones thoughts or perception of him. So if you think he's non-existent, that does not change anything. He is self-sustaining and allpowerful, omnipotent and omniscient. He is the sustainer and upholder of reality, physical, spiritual, etc(that's what connects him to the topic in case you were wondering). He is reality himself.

Now I'll say one other thing. Aspects of his reality are also written in our mentality.
These verses support that.
Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
One of the aspects of Gods reality, and ours also, as beings created in Gods image, is his law, written in our hearts:

Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another

You cannot claim that we evolved a moral code. No. Animals have no law.

If we're animals, then we're lawless, we cannot be blamed for acting like animals. This very mentality is what is producing lawlessness and immorality among some people today.
So the fact that we have a moral code written in our hearts show that aspects of Gods reality are known in our consciousness.

You see, gods are a figment of imagination, of subjective reasoning of reality, there are absolute truths written in our consciousness, like what is right and wrong, and how to discern between right and wrong in particular situation. There is also an absolute God. Our subjective perceptions of him will not change his objective reality. One other example of an objective truth is sin. Sin is also subject to the reasonings of subjectivity, but its reality is inherent in us. It is also written down in the bible.(That's why the gospel pierces hearts, all men identify with sins objectivity, and the fact that sin must be punished).

So here's what a doctor of optical physics I know said.(In my words)
God is real and unchanging, objective, we view him from different perspectives and have different images of him. Some are real, some are virtual, some are even at infinity(to these ones, God is non-existent and cannot have an image, I think), so if you claim to have Gods real image, let us see him in the screen of your life.

So our subjective reasonings of God and reality all end up as nonsense most times. According to scripture, since men kept denying the objective truth of God inherent in them, he gave them away, and chose to reveal his objective self over a period of time, from abraham, to israel, to the world in the person of Christ Jesus.

Oya make una tok una own. I don finish.

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Lwcmr. LoL

texanomaly: Good morning/Afternoon

good evening ma'am

Logicboy03: I had to laugh......

I hear

plaetton: I have no idea what you are talking about.
I might be wrong, but I am sensing a tinge of personal animosity towards my viewpoints,rather than the healthy objective robust arguments that I have grown to expect from you, Deepsight.
I have advised you before to stop going to church. It is messing with your great mind.

If you want to have a robust debate or discussion, as we normally do, then please take a short break from your Olympian heights, or cut short your vacation in the Alpha Omega Nebula Galaxy, come down and meet me right here in Terra-firma where I most us advanced primates call home.

using even flattery to try to enforce your views. I'm not surprised. You even made up a false claim to justify your twisted point of view before.

Mr Troll: lol. I actually smiled at this. You're making progress. Try harder, maybe by 2032 you'll actually make me laugh

lol. Hope you wouldn't have lost all your teeth.

Uyi Iredia: That's what's called the hard problem of consciousness: how does one go from neurns moving to conscious experience ?

evolution of course. We can evolve a mind. All other answers are foolish and not to be taken seriously.

Mr Troll: This is where we all meet up to cry over spilt milk.

alright. The bible says mourn with those who mourn. Wey muskeeto? Abeg musk pass me that weed wey you dey smoke may I throway am for dustbin

texanomaly: Nope. Not even knuckleheads like that could shake my faith. I have my head on straight, and I know where I stand and what I stand for.

see? I doff my hat ma'am

aManFromMars: I fear she might turn agnostic after coming to Nigeria..

yeah. Coming to nigeria might either reinforce her faith, or leave her like you perhaps.
Just like moving from nigeria turned most o you guys atheists.

What is the purpose of this thread?

[quote author=Mynd_44]IsAgbalumo [/quote]

Mr Troll: Boring mindless zombies everywhere. . .

yeah. You truly are one of the few exciting intelligent humans in this world.

^^
Well said.

Damex333: s this not a chat thread either, then he can post anything here? Hell no

he can post anything within the confines of the rules.
Edited: just found out that talking romance is not allowed on this thread. So any talkk of romance is derailing. I stand corrected

idnoble135: A lot of drama here.
Can't the thread be peaceful without conflicts?
It is well.
*sprinkles holy water on thread for cleansing.