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Christianity EtcRe: Rules On Slavery by Joshthefirst(m): 10:44am On Oct 24, 2013
You guys are acting as if you didn't read my posts. Did you not hear when I said that slavery in those days was different from the brutality of these recent times. Under Gods law, brutality and ill treatment of foreigners was not allowed.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 10:35am On Oct 24, 2013
[quote author=david_hume]Common sense is sparing ur entire family d memory of the r*pe, which will be manifested in the child.

However, I'll take it back if you convince me that the standard practice amongst christian husbands is to raise the son of the man that rap*d their wives as their own.[/quote]the fact that you still argue like this blindly and some people agree with you is horrifying. If a child is born of rape, raise the child as your own. Its not his fault. His life will testify of the forgiveness and forbearance of God in this sin-ridden world.
It is pathetic that you would even think of killing an innocent to spare you memory.

When God condemns a guilty, you cry "unjust" when God forgives the guilty, you cry "unjust"
And yet you will boldly kill an unborn child. Pathetic.
Christianity EtcRe: Greatest Religion Section Quotes ( sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 10:25am On Oct 24, 2013
JMAN05: op.
Many atheists are not sincere. they just like to remain atheists, not that no evidence of a creator exists, no. but they just want to be blind over the evidence of their brain so as to remain atheists.

Point at a robot and they will shout "of course somebody made it", but point at them, they ll say "they caim by chance". Prove how life came from nonliving thing, no prove. but they believe it happened, but wont believe God exists without prove.

just tell me how serious they are?
Logicboy03: This is what we call fallacious thinking...


Are robots and human beings the same material? One is organic, the other isnt. Common sense will tell you that they didnt and wouldnt arise from the same type of source or with a similar mechanism.


My body is proof of evolution not God. If God created me, then he is foolish....for I was born foolish as a baby, not knowing anything until i was taught by my parents and other teachers, just like every other human being. You god is the father of all foolishness if he created everything. He created foolishness.
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Christianity EtcRe: Greatest Religion Section Quotes ( sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 11:09pm On Oct 23, 2013
Lovely thread. Following
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 10:58pm On Oct 23, 2013
Goodnight man. Really tired.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 10:57pm On Oct 23, 2013
Secularist: Mumu, David Hume was not supporting your theory he was simply stating the foolishness of your religion. Someone got rappped and cannot get to abort the pregnancyhuh
you're calling me mumu and you can't even notice a sarcastic comment grin grin grin
RomanceRe: When the roles are reversed by Joshthefirst(m): 10:56pm On Oct 23, 2013
Ihedinobi: ^^ Side kwa? grin grin I'm a human being na. Na wa to you o! grin
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Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 10:22pm On Oct 23, 2013
[quote author=david_hume]At the moment, Christianity is stopping rape victims from getting abortion![/quote]I'm telling you. We're stopping murder and the guy is calling me a murderer and a demeaner. Smh
Christianity EtcRe: In Or Out? by Joshthefirst(op): 10:09pm On Oct 23, 2013
aManFromMars: I fear you do not realize the 'moral' implications of these. Consider.

A young man who happens to be from a Christian family rapes a pious Muslim Girl. The girl dies and goes to hell. The boy gives his life to Christ and ends up in heaven.
almost left this out.

Does it not bother you how heavily set you are against Gods perfect ways?

When he forgives sin, you call it unjust. When he punishes sin, you call it unjust.
Smh.
Music/RadioRe: What Does Your Taste In Music Say About Your Intelligence? by Joshthefirst(m): 9:57pm On Oct 23, 2013
Ishilove: I think contemporary music is empty and shallow. I prefer listening to old music. The older the better.

What does that say about me? undecided
you're an old woman inside??
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Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 9:46pm On Oct 23, 2013
Have a nice evening everyone
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Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 9:45pm On Oct 23, 2013
ARareGem: Hello, Ada. Hello, all. My day was nice. It was one of my sisters' birthday afterall. smiley

Josh, how far that story na? sad
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Sorry o madam. [s]na now you come tell me I come remember am[/s]
I go update ASAP, maybe tommorow. By Gods grace.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 8:42pm On Oct 23, 2013
Secularist: Really?

What i got from that is that i am better of not knowing about religion and its stringent laws, ignorance is actually salvation.
good. You're making progress. Religion and its stringent laws can never save a man. Jesus saves.

Matthew 11:28-30 "Are you tired? Worn out? Burned out on religion? Come to me. Get away with me and you'll recover your life. I'll show you how to take a real rest. Walk with me and work with me—watch how I do it. Learn the unforced rhythms of grace. I won't lay anything heavy or ill-fitting on you. Keep company with me and you'll learn to live freely and lightly." (The Message)




@Uyi. What you're saying is exactly what God does with sin. He forgives unconditionally.

It is only when men refuse to repent that the requirements of justice must be met. God is a loving father. He is also a righteous judge.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 8:33pm On Oct 23, 2013
What does happen to people who have died without hearing about Jesus and God's law and love?

Romans 2:15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) 16 This will take place on the day when God judges people's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares. (NIV)

The bible answers questions. God will judge in his own way.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 8:19pm On Oct 23, 2013
Romans 8:4 KJV
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit

That has automatically crapified everything you just said.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 8:14pm On Oct 23, 2013
At least you acknowledge that he is a perfect God and you're an imperfect man who needs to be made perfect.
Back at square 1


Abeg have a nice evening everyone including you tex smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 8:12pm On Oct 23, 2013
ooman: so your god gave me, a man, laws of his own (a perfect god's) standard and expects me to be able to fulfill it?

You are ignored henceforth....
finally.
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 8:06pm On Oct 23, 2013
idnoble135: Any one heard from HBG and Mint?
Hope they are fine.
seriously. We have not seen them for a while.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 8:05pm On Oct 23, 2013
ooman: Well stop blaming the law, because your god gave it, meaning condemnation comes from your god. Your god gave laws that no man can fulfill, then blame us for not being able to fulfil it, providing the excuse, called jesus, as a way to get us into intellectual slavery for ever.

Because your god gave laws that we cannot fulfill, he therefore brought us condemnation. So stop wasting nairaland space and shut the heck up
God gave you laws that you couldn't keep. Smh. So he should reduce his standard and start all over again.

I tire.
Keep blaming God for your sinfulness.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 8:01pm On Oct 23, 2013
Using humanity as an excuse to take pleasure in sin and wickedness.

And then blaming me for reducing humanity and commiting murder.

Oh well.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 7:47pm On Oct 23, 2013
ooman: in order words, i am condemned before god, therefore xtianity brings condemnation than love. Or maybe I should say, it brings condemnation first, then love..
the law brings condemnation because no man has ever fulfilled it but Jesus Christ. He never lied or stole or profaned or looked at a woman lustfully. Because we have not fulfilled this law written in our consciences, we are condemned. We have sinned against God, our consciences bearing witness.
We stand condemned. We deserve it.
But God in his mercy sent Jesus to save us from our guilt and sin. He took our punishment for us. That is the gospel. If you believe, you're saved. Born again into Gods kingdom a holy and perfect child because of Jesus Christ
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 7:22pm On Oct 23, 2013
ooman: ok, what sin?
sin is breaking Gods moral law.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 7:21pm On Oct 23, 2013
texanomaly: *hands him a box of rocks* undecided
its not what you think ma'am
He doesn't think he needs salvation from sin, therefore Jesus doesn't make sense. The gospel sounds foolish.
For Jesus to make sense to him, he must first see that he is guilty of sin and guilty before God. Only then will salvation make sense.

Jesus said it himself
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 7:15pm On Oct 23, 2013
ooman: look, its simple. Why am I condemned? Its because am not a xtian right? Thats why xtianity brings condemnation than love. Without xtianity, am not condemned, but with xtianity, I am condemned as an atheist...
no sir, its because of sin.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 7:09pm On Oct 23, 2013
ooman: ok, so dont tell me xtianity brings love and salvation, it brings death and condemnation more often than it brings salvation and love...
no. Christianity brings salvation and God's love. You're already a condemned and guilty sinner.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 6:48pm On Oct 23, 2013
ooman: tell this to the Amorites and Canaanites etc that Yahweh commanded their genocide...
that was what the law brought for them. Gods judgement. That is what your sin will bring for you.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 6:36pm On Oct 23, 2013
Secularist: 1,000 years from now, people like us would use the brains of past persons who shared your insanity and discuss in scientific details the effect of religion on the grey matter of the early religious man.

You are no different from the early babarian persons, the only difference is that you can use a computer. Bravo! You don't fool anyone, just yourself. You need to understand that i do have a big problem with people who let old useless books cloud their reasons.

I am not peace loving, i cannot be peace loving to a person who propagates lies and falsehood that has and continue to reduce humanity. I hope you understand that until you can remove yourself either from my view or your religion we would not see eye to eye, because to me you are a murderer, a killer of all things good and noble in the human being. Your ignorance of these facts does not make it any less true.

Google is your friend, use it, find answers, and when you have something intelligible to say, i would be here to answer you.
I'm sorry to say this, but quit your yabbing.

Tell me how being a christian degrades and makes one a murderer and thief.

I take insults on this forum everyday, I am reduced and you say I reduce others?

Christianity brings love and salvation to man from God.

As for you, you are a prime example of what everyman who refuses to acknowledge and repent his problems of sin is.

Its not about me and my 'stupidity'
Its about the fact that if man does not have a change of nature, this world will continue to grow rotten and many will pay for their wicked ways in hell.
Nonsense.

You better face the real problem of mankind and do away with modalities
Christianity EtcRe: Rules On Slavery by Joshthefirst(m): 6:30pm On Oct 23, 2013
mazaje: Will will your god want to kill his children and chosen people because of sin, is he a monster?. . .Will you kill your kids if they disobey you?. . .Remember your god also instructed the ancient jews to kill their disobedient kids. . .Your god is more of a monsters than a loving being. . .If these passages were written in the koran , I know you will be here telling us how bad and evil Allah is , but since it is written in your own bubble of delusion you are here trying to defend baseless and barbaric mythical tales. . .
joshthefirst: Hell is very real.
God is not interested in sending anyone to hell. God is interested in saving people from hell. God's mission is to save the world from sin and condemnation.
I've given this example before:

Suppose you have a son, your much loved son. Who is a rebellious and fool-hardy son. You sure do love him, but everything he does is about challenging your authority and rebelling against you, under your own roof and rule. Even WHEN this son grows up and knows better, he still uses every oppourtunity to break your own rules, speak against you, disobey you and ignore you every chance he gets.
Be honest. It will be wise and just to put that son away, to throw him out of your house. Although you love your son. It will be just to kick your son out(say he's 30 years old). This is because he has made himself your enemy

This is how it is with God. He's not just our loving father, he's our creator. And he's our JUDGE
When we rebel, his holiness and righteousness as a just judge will be to condemn you in death and cast into hell. That's the hard truth and reality. For the wages of sin is death you see.

But God is a loving God, because inspite of our sins and rebellion, he sent his son to make a way and free us from guilt and condemnation. Inspite of your rebellion as a sinner, (think of all your sins all these years), and the fact that you're guilty, he still loved you and sent his son to die even while you were already guilty. This is why God is merciful and just. People on nl even rebel against God and curse him everyday. Everyday we fornicate and steal and use God's name as a swear word and lie. We are guilty before God. That is the message. God in his mercy made a way of salvation so we can be acquitted and granted freedom from sin, but still people misinterpret that and say God is unjust(how can you say that?!)

You see, sin damns to hell. God is holy.
For the wages of sin is death
But he is loving and merciful and loving
But the free-gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our lord


Accept jesus today! Escape the wrath to come!

Edit: what people do today, is try to water down their sins before a just and holy God and that won't work. The whole world wallows in sin and lawlessness today. The world stands guilty before God. Grab the salvation and anchor of our lord Jesus Christ. He can save you from wrath. Stop the sin. Stop taking pleasure in it and look to Jesus and start to live a holy life before God.
Stop giving stjupid and shallow excuses before God. Hell is real. Why die for your sins when there is salvation?

Escape the wrath to come!!!!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Rules On Slavery by Joshthefirst(m): 6:22pm On Oct 23, 2013
plaetton: I will be more than happy to show you.
But, what will you concede if I do show you?
Will you concede of ignorance, or would you concede that Yahweh encouraged not only racism but cold blooded murder?

The reason I ask is that as soon as I show you the passage, you will immediately try to rationalize or justify it.
Even if it happened, it wasn't because of racism.
There are commands God gave the israelites to care for foreigners in their midst. Smh
Racism:
n.
1 a a belief in the superiority of a particular race; prejudice based on this. b antagonism towards other races, esp. as a result of this.
2 the theory that human abilities etc. are determined by race. racist

The israelites were not allowed by God to mix up with other nations because of their tendency to adopt foreign idols and forsake the God who chose them. It didn't mean God viewed them as superior. God wanted to wipe them out completely several times because of sin.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, Agnostics And Open Minded Persons. by Joshthefirst(m): 6:05pm On Oct 23, 2013
Secularist: I know there are a lot of people here who have questioned the many BS they have seen in religious institutions but are yet afraid of being chastised by lesser minds on a fact that is so obvious it should not warrant the ill will it gets.

If you are scared because people may then know you in that light then i encourage you to create another account to enable you discuss freely.

I believe strongly that the future of this country belongs to the sane of mind, people like us. Only people like us can truly make a difference in the world.

Dont be afraid mates, your higher intelligence and liberal spirit is the only thing that can can change this country for good.
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Can you imagine?
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Christianity EtcRe: Rules On Slavery by Joshthefirst(m): 6:00pm On Oct 23, 2013
Plaetton should show me where joshua speared an israelite for marrying a jebusite or forever be ashamed of himself.
Poems For ReviewRe: Lets Get Bloody With Rhymed Poems by Joshthefirst(m): 5:54pm On Oct 23, 2013
timpaker:
I don't think so.
Its more like a true story. It happened to my school son's elder brother back in the days.
The horror is what I interpreted into this poem.
#noMoreBloodyPoems-I-Quit

Cheers!
my condolences

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