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nwuyag: @ joshthefirst.
let's hit the nail on the head.
this type of thing shouldn't even be debated @ all.
I don't know much about islam. i ve also seen moslems talk about issues with the concept of trinity and many more. Both parties can never win or make an inch of sense to the other. You are not in the best position to critisize another religion. Dont forget that they are all beliefs that satisfy the believers. I shouldn't be telling you this. You should be doing more thinking.

why do people think I don't think?
I have stayed with muslims before. I have seen different men with different stances, they're all the same. If you undermine the power of Jesus to save, then you are simply a religious person who worships him as an idol and yet has nothing to do for him.
The reason we preach is because we know Jesus saves. That's the reason real christians preach. If you just stand around and ignore others as a christian, then you ignore men going to damnation because of their sins.
I will not stand like that. I will do all in my power to spread the good news of the fact that onecan be free from sin on anothers account.

mazaje: You are completely deluded, you know nothing at all beside the religion that you have been indoctrinated with all your life, islam, hinduism and other religions deal with all these issues in their own way. . . .That your delusion and indoctrination does not allow you to agree with their own explanations but condemns theirs is your problem, theirs also condemns yours as well. . .Keep living in your bubble of delusion if it makes you sleep well at night. . .

as usual, I ask you a simple question and you dance around spewing insults without giving any response. And you say I am the indoctrinated one. You have no answers of life. We have the real answers, that's why we break through to men. We have the real answers that are deeper than religion itself. We hold a monopoly on reality, that's why we are the most fought against and the most persecuted by evil men.
Think about this and stop wasting time dancing around the truth and calling others deluded.

adaobi123:

Lol. I I don't believe it. Afam is too enugu-ish abeg.

When I saw this I almost fell down.

mazaje: It is called delusion. . .It is not just his own religion but he disagrees with any one that does not accept his own version of christianity or interpretation of the bible, to him if you disagree with his own version of christanity then you are not a christian. . .

where does any passage of any holy book deal with the current problem that unites and condemns all mankind. What deals with the problem of sin?

How does quoting from any holy book solve this problem?

nwuyag: I used to admire your posts on NL. Tbh, this is worse than what I ve seen from others. You are using your religion and what it has taught you as the basis of your claims. That is plain wrong. A moslem can do that also.

how can a moslem do that please?
Or a buddhist, how can he do that?

Kay 17: Yet a human can be a property, and as a consequence be treated as a property (res) and not a person. This difference is very vital. There is an extent laws can go in controlling the properties of ppl.

Unlike in modern atheist secular society all humans are persons and have rights as such.

you're insinuating that its only in atheist secular society that all humans have rights as such. And this is a lie. That's for another day.

One more thing: no one has a right to sin against God talk less of his fellow humans.

Kay 17: Yet a human can be a property, and as a consequence be treated as a property (res) and not a person. This difference is very vital. There is an extent laws can go in controlling the properties of ppl.

Unlike in modern atheist secular society all humans are persons and have rights as such.

slaving in bible times was different..speaking generally Yes, they became peoples property, but they were not sold as slaves as a result of racism, etc like we've seen in recent times. Take joseph for example, who was sold into slavery by his brothers. He was even made head of the house because of good merit and work.
Maltreatment of slaves was considered extreme generally. Unlike the recent negro slaving where once you became a slave, you became a prejudiced animal.
Another example is daniel and the jews in captivity in babylon. They were even granted authority.

[quote author=alpha_scorpio]This Joshthefirst just keeps making one stup1d comment after another. How can someone be this dense?!
Y'all need to stop arguing with this fellow cuz its kinda like arguing with a 2 year old who still believes in the tooth fairy. There's absolutely nothing you can say to make him believe otherwise.[/quote]yeah. They should leave me alone for petes sake. I didn't start any argument on this thread. They are the ones who saw the truth and began to fight against it. See mazaje saying slavery was the same then as it was now. Smh.
The kind of slavery these days can be likened to what happened to israel when they were in egypt. That was real brutalization. They cried to God, and God judged.
Atheists who think they are smart and say just about anything to try to pass across themselves as rational. Smh

mazaje: You are a liar, the Israelis according to the bible stories were told by their god to kill foreigners on many occasions because the foreigners worshiped other gods. . .Slavery is a bad thing and will always remain so, if people like Moses, Joshua, Ezekiel were alive today and tried any of the nonsense the bible said they did they would have been arrested and either killed or jailed for war crimes. . .

why are you trying to discredit me?
I meant foreigners in their midst. Read the post in context.

[quote author=lana_Vello]i think y'all r mixing dz sh1t up..[/quote]read the op. He was just using the title to attract attention. Smh

It depends

kolawaxxy: Since you claim Adam never existed, you should be able to tell me whom the first man was. So, who was the first man to have ever lived?

Did you read the op at all?
Smh
Don't be too quick to type.

aManFromMars: Why? God couldn't kill Jesus himself?

oh. i forgot.. that would have been suicide...

lol. Nice tactic. When you have nothing else to say, make a silly joke

aManFromMars: God didn't throw stones at Jesus. Man did.
God didn't nail the mumu to the cross. Man did.
God didn't pierce his side. Man did.
God didn't write the Bible. Man did.


It has always been man. Man is GOD is Man. God is not objective. He's subjective, just like ideas, feelingl, emotions, the whole gamut of the human experience.

God used man to pass judgement. He executed his judgement through the hands of man. And he also played his part.
He forsook his firstborn on the cross.
"My God my God why hast thou forsaken me"
Why are you always like this?
Sometimes, I wonder if you're blind or you choose to twist fact. Smh

Logicboy03: We hear you quite well......

....however, man of us refuse to acknowledge your lies and romanticising of the cruelty in the bible.


Slavery in the bible was racist, brutal and evil in the bible. You are not fooling anyone.


The bible clearly states how to beat your slave. Women were seen as sex slaves after wars.


We are to believe that these isrealites who where gutting their neighbours and slicing off foreskins of enemies were more humane than people in the 16th century? You mad?

believe what you want to believe, it won't change the truth.
You see how awful judgement of sin and wickedness can be and you refuse to escape. You see how this same God is a lion and a lamb, a father and a judge. You are unrepentant.
Looking for stupid exccuses to continue in sin.

aManFromMars: But in some situations, it's permissible to murder. God permitted man to murder his Son(who was himself) to save man from sin. Makes sense.

no. You misunderstand. God did not just allow man to murder his son, God poured his wrath on his son. His wrath for the sin of mankind. Jesus died and died terribly because so that you would be justified.
He was raised from the dead so that you would be welcome into the hands of God as his son. He took your punishment.

aManFromMars: But your God doesn't value human life. Human life is not as important as His Word. So it's your standard, not God's standard. It's the human in you screaming out, not your God.

1 Samuel 15:
2 Thus says the Lord of hosts: ‘I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”...

9 But Saul and the people spared Agag and the best of the sheep, the oxen, the fatlings, the lambs, and all that was good, and were unwilling to utterly destroy them. But everything despised and worthless, that they utterly destroyed...

10 Now the word of the Lord came to Samuel, saying,
11 “I greatly regret that I have set up Saul as king, for he has turned back from following Me, and has not performed My commandments.” And it grieved Samuel, and he cried out to the Lord all night.

yet you say I'm the one vomiting the same thing on every thread.

God is a just judge. I'm tired of typing the same thing on every thread so I'll leave it there.

Secularist: Fuckkkkk your bible you stupid stupid person, if you think i am a terrorist then that is what i am. I am going to terrorize you and your offspring's with the truth!! And you should all be very scared about that.

Your god cannot save you from me, your imaginary friend has no bearing here, you watch and see.

from your reactions and cussing on this thread, its obvious you are the one threatened with the truth

[quote author=rapture_ready]You're beginning to sound like a terrorist![/quote]he seems a troubled fellow as you can see. Pressure brings out what's truly in a man sometimes.

In this case, its devlish hatred of God.

[quote author=rapture_ready]Nah.

Truth is, God never allows such things happen to his children (the truly saved).

He spares us such painful experiences.[/quote]now this depends sir.

I believe trouible and bad experiences are sometimes a way God can refine our faith in him

[quote author=david_hume]There is a very high probability that if the child should know d circumstances of his birth he might not recover from the trauma.
But you're prepared to take that risk in order to conform to your dogma.
There are hundreds of thousands of orphaned kids in this country, how many have your christian brethren adopted?
Even your pastors with all their wealth, how many orphans have they adopted?
Those are orphans o! Not the child of a man that rap*d their wife!

You can mouth all the values you like, but when it comes to ACTIONS, y'all will be found wanting![/quote]God's word and nurturing heals trauma and makes children grow into strong and godly men.

You've branched off now, you're talking now of others and actions and saying I don't act. You don't even know me.

I've sensed this revival for some time now. I don't know if it'll happen if 5 years, but I have felt it. Its coming. We're praying. I've felt this revival looming over the horizon.
Revival will soon break forth.
Revival of the word and power.
Blessed be the name of the lord

aManFromMars: Funny, your problem with abortion is about taking the life of a 'kid'. But if push comes to shove, you'd save the mother and damn the child. Why not let both go?

So that's how you rationalize it? Did the Bible give space for such 'rationalizations'?

thou shall not murder.

aManFromMars: Funny, your problem with abortion is about taking the life of a 'kid'. But if push comes to shove, you'd save the mother and damn the child. Why not let both go?

So that's how you rationalize it? Did the Bible give space for such 'rationalizations'?

I'm sorry, but I value human life. I will do my best to save it. That's the God-attitude. That's the real moral standard.

aManFromMars: Answer the question na. Would your actions be different? Would you consider abortion in this scenario?

Give a straight forward answer for once in your life.

no. I will never consider abortion.

in my opinion, abortion can only be considered if a complication develops in pregnancy that will prove fatal or extremely harmful to the mother.

princesa: The thing tire me sef...
I no even know who send me

aManFromMars: Let's get this straight. If someone rapes your sister, you'd advise her to keep the child? Even if the rapist had HIV?

this is way different from what he was insinuating.
If the rapist had HIV, then the woman would have it too and there would be a probability of the child having it.
That is different from having a child as a result of molestation and killing the child because of hatred or fear. That is not love.