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Mummytoo:
Good morning nlanders

Happy Sunday to u all

I'm eager to know if its wrong to confront a pastor, because all my life I hate going pastors for anything, something happened on Monday, I didn't know who else to talk to ....so I went to the alter to pray and met with my pastor, I explained what happened between my husband and I and he settled the matter sweetly . I was so happy to have peace and joy back in my marriage till yesterday (Saturday) pastor called me out of that plenty congregation and told d church everything including what my husband has been hiding for years, he even added more things that didn't even happen to the story😂. I was just quiet and respectful since I wasn't expecting him to behave like that.

He prayed for me and I just left, he started getting angry that I can't even praise for my healing me or dancing round, I was just shocked at everything happening I left to the backyard and later went in again.

Immediately I got home I told my husband how he's image has been tarnished in church for what he didn't do, we had a misunderstanding and pastor said he flogged me (that didn't happen)

Is it wrong to confront him....
Coz I will act like I'm going to testify and correct that wrong impression he said about my husband

Just one time experience with pastor is killing me like this

Good morning ma
Please the pastor was wrong
Politely state your grievance with him okk

Don't engage in exchange of words with the pastor no matter what his response is
You have passed your message

Have a great week

Verance:
You guys are quick to quote Paul in the first few verses of 1 Cor 14 but will never reference the first case of speaking in tongues, why can't a "spirit filled" Yoruba Pentecostan minister to an Igbo man in Igbo language? Mind you, Apostle Peter stated clearly that some of Apostle Paul's teaching are difficult to comprehend and I believe his writings in 1 Cor 14 about the gift of tongues is one of those difficult teachings of Paul to understand and has proven to be a big stumbling block to Pentecostals making your worship sessions being sessions of frenzy. For context sake, if you read 1 Cor 12, 13 you will understand that the gifts of the spirits are not given primarily for the purpose of "self-pleasing" they are giving to individuals to serve the body of Christ. Also, you guys have clearly elevated the gift of tongues above all other gifts of the spirit some even saying speaking in tongues is a prerequisite to salvation.

Please refer to the links below to gain a better understanding of my points

https://www.gotquestions.org/praying-in-tongues.html

https://thecripplegate.com/addressing-continuationist-arguments-from-1-corinthians-14/

HomeTutorsPro:
The irritating babbling they do in churches today are religious nonsense as usual.
Speaking in tongues means "to speak in a language you previously do not know how to speak.
To understand the whole idea of speaking in tongues as recorded in the Bible, look at Acts Chapter 2.
The gathering on the Pentecost comprised of people from every nation (language) under heaven. Acts 2:6.
The apostles needed to tell them about the wonderful works of God but they couldn't speak all the languages. Not all the people understood the language of the apostles either.
Worse still, there were no translators!
That was when the Holy Spirit came down to solve the problem.
There are two possibilities.

1. The Holy Spirit made the apostles to speak the language of every nation under heaven so that every person in the congregation could understand.

2. The Holy Spirit made each member of the congregation hear the apostles in their own language. That is, the apostles were speaking their own language (Galileans) - Acts 2:7 but each listener heard a translation (by the Holy Spirit) in his/her own language.

Now, whichever of the above happened on Pentecost, the goal was the same: a language barrier was broken and there was effective communication between people who would not have understood each other.
That is the essence of speaking in tongues.
The word of God should bring light and understanding. Psalm 119:130.
If I go to preach to a congregation comprising of Hausas, Ibos, Yorubas, Isokos, Kanuris, Ibibios, Itsekiris and even people from other countries who speak several other languages, I would need the help of the Holy Spirit to speak to those people in a language they'll understand otherwise I haven't preached.

I don't want to make my response too long.
But here is what the Bible says about speaking in tongues.

1. It is to be directed towards unbelievers so they may believe (Prophesy is for believers).
2. Speaking something that listeners do not understand is madness.
3. If you must praise God in a tongue that your listener do not understand, there must be an interpreter.
4. If there is no interpreter, you must remain silent in the church.

You can see all the above in 1 Cor. 14:22 - 28.

Jokanem:
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/speaking-in-tongues/

Hendrixky:
Hmmmm

The white really messed with us psychologically

honestivo:
Christianity is personal (You and God) relationship

TimT:
Lols... Religion in Nigeria is heavy oooo.....
But come to think of it, biblically, having sex during fasting is quite wrong, becoz the aim of fasting is to deprive yourself of the good things of the flesh....
Now the issues be say why have sex during fasting..?? Before fasting una no do?? After fasting una say Lai Lai e no go sweet.. na the one during fasting una want....

Arise O Compatriots..........

rickpat:
she truly misses him...but it's wrong for her to continue to keep in touch... honestly,they are vaccums only the deepest friendship can fill and marriage can never fill such vaccum...

confront your wife and let her discontinue the communication with the dude...

LIFE IS FUNNY, SOMETIMES WE DON'T MARRY THE PERSON THAT WE TRULY MISS...

talk to your wife buddy.. good luck

bigcil2:
I had this discusion with a friend of mine, and I would like we share our personal and Biblical views about the subject topic. For me its a sin, cos there's an intent to sin(sex), conciously or not. Jesus also said if you look at a woman lustfully and in your heart lust for her you have sinned. Please am not a pastor 'lol'. Awaiting responses.

OnknownSoldier:
If you are conversant with the modern-day gospel music industry, you would have noticed a sudden surge of unknown tongues in many gospel songs from gospel artists of mostly black descent. This sudden development in my opinion is worthy of serious interrogation as the Bible says that we should test all spirits so as know which is of God [1 John 4:1].

The gospel songs I knew while growing up emphasized godly living using language(s) that can be understood. The hymns for example are written in plain language(s) and one can attest to the fact that those songs are divinely inspired and spirit-filled. Meanwhile, the present crops of gospel music raving the moment are mostly incorporated with unknown tongues and spiritual chants that can not be understood by anyone and yet we have not found a single interpreter to interpret the tongues in these popular songs. I believe that in itself negates the fundamental injunction stated by Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 14:27.

I have been to megachurches in several regions of Nigeria where I have heard worship leaders repeating the same tongues in these popular gospel records verbatim and I get confused each time. Damn! Something is wrong somewhere. It's almost impossible to hear a gospel record these days without hearing an unknown tongue in it. Could that be the latest marketing strategy to sell gospel records?

Yes! I believe in tongues but I also believe that not all spirit-filled Christians must speak in tongues. Some operate in other gifts like prophecy, Discernment, word of knowledge, words of wisdom, walking of miracles e.t.c [1 Corinthians 12:4-11]. it is the spirit that distributes these gifts but I wonder while the present church places much emphasis on tongues. Well, maybe that's because tongues are the easiest to fake. Maybe I said.

Now to my honest questions:

1. If speaking in tongues only edifies the one who speaks it and not the body of Christ as it is in 1 Corinthians 14:4, why will any gospel musician incorporate an unknown tongue in his or her song lyrics for the body of Christ?

2. Where exactly is it written in the Bible that Christians should sing in tongues? Is there anywhere in the Bible the Apostles did? I know pentecostal christians will mention 1 Corinthians 14:15 but is that what Apostle Paul was really saying in that passage?

3. Why were the ancient gospel songs not incorporated with unknown tongues as we have now? Could it be that modern Christian worship has been hijacked by strange spirits?

Above are my reservations about the sudden proliferation of unknown tongues in modern gospel music. I will appreciate answers with biblical reference(s) to my questions in the comment section.

Thanks!

naijaclass:
In Christian hamartiology, eternal sins, unforgivable sins, unpardonable sins, or ultimate sins are sins which will not be forgiven by God. One eternal or unforgivable sin (blasphemy against the Holy Spirit), also known as the sin unto death, is specified in several passages of the Synoptic Gospels, including Mark 3:28–29, Matthew 12:31–32, and Luke 12:10, as well as other New Testament passages including Hebrews 6:4–6, Hebrews 10:26–31, and 1 John 5:16.

Good day brother /sister
Many people have been deceived into committing the sin against the Holy spirit.
The truth is that God's grace and mercy is available for us in times of sin. But the aim is to forgive us and help us to stop sinning.
But some people have abused this grace, claiming that Jesus has paid for all the sins one would ever commit. Hence they deliberately continue to sin, they enjoy living in sin while having adequate knowledge of the grace of God. They deliberately twist that knowledge Therefore they are nailing christ again to the cross.
That is sin against the Holy Spirit
How can you forgive someone that enjoys offending you knowing fully well that he's offending you and unwilling to change


Bible scholars please throw more light to this

Ken4Christ:
I know the heading will surprise most people but it's the truth. Christianity in itself is not a religion but people have made religion out of it.

Christiani is a living relationship with God the Father through our Lord Jesus.

So, you are not a Christian because you are a member of one denomination or the other.

For you to be a Christian, you must be born again or saved. And salvation is a free gift you get by accepting Jesus into your life and Saviour.

According to Romans 10:9-10, it involves two steps,

1. Believe in your heart that Jesus died for your sins.
2. Confess with your mouth that he is your Lord and Saviour.

And you will be saved.

You can be a member of a local church and not a member of the body of Christ written in heaven.

So, don't think you will make heaven because you belong to a local church.

You must be born again.

Do it now before you surprisingly see yourself in hell after you have left this earth.

Yungmil:
Our level of reasoning is a big problem.

Now settle down and answer this question...

What if you were actually born in let say a village in India and both you and the entire village practice Hindu, will you be saying this same thing? If someone from Islam or Christianity comes to you and start telling you Jesus is the way.

How possible is it that you in the whole village will convert to Christianity. When you know you have been practicing Hindu from birth.

Let's try to reason out of the box sometimes.

adeoyekay:
Once you accept JESUS as your LORD and personal saviour heaven is yours.

Zee0007:
Heaven is not made for Christians but believers. You can be a Christian and yet not believe in Jesus Christ.

Once you are a believer, you will make heaven. But heaven is not the final resting place for believers. It is a temporary place to stay before the new world is created. A world where one is ageless and not bound by time. A place for eternal rest and koinonia.

The new Jerusalem. You don't want to miss it.

Yungmil:
So automatically all other religion will go to hell? Haba

What if you were born into a Muslim home?

Yungmil
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People are born into different family, religion, tribe and culture. I see some families with both Christians and Muslim in it.

My question now is that people who are born into a family of Islam, Hindu, Judaism, paganism and whatever, does it mean they can't make heaven.

Because I know I am a Christian basically because I was born into a Christian home, and I find it difficult to convert to any other religion no matter the amount of preaching, same goes to those born into Islam Hindu and the rest.

Please I need scholars in the house for more clarification.

Holiness2100:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84dOLpr3M_0


https://www.wionews.com/videos/gravitas-why-are-so-many-young-people-dying-of-heart-attacks-509585

doggedfighter:
Not a big deal.



Any child that calls you father is your child.


It makes no difference at all !


What's the crying for ?

Should we pray that it happens to you?
Don't just talk,
Think before you do
Adultery should be condemned
Thanks

Aniluvreal:
So I am faced with this problem of feeling sleepy anytime I picked up the bible to read, whether it's the hardcopy or the downloaded ones in my phone, I feel sleepy when i want to read it. But I can read other voluminous books/materials from cover to cover without blinking my eyes talkless of sleeping.

I am so disturbed about this, I need help please.

It's not going to be easy. These are feelings you must fight and endure as a Christian. Same with the urge for sexual gratification.
Continue in prayer, deny yourself that sleep. That is how you share in the sufferings of Christ

AntiChristian:
I don't believe Christians do fornicate despite they having holy spirit.

I always thought only non-Muslims fornicate.

Shebi na one man one wife? Una eyes go clear!

What is marital and premarital sex?

How did Jesus define marriage?
How did he celebrate the marriage he attended in Cana?

judedwriter:
The 3 strongest drives in a human are:

1. Drive to stay alive

2. Drive to be rich

3. Drive to have sex

The sexual drive has destroyed so many destinies beyond recognition. This is because many can't exercise self control with their sexual desires and freely practice masturbation, fornication and adultery.
It's impossible to control these urges as a mere human. That was exactly why God gave us the Holy spirit. All we do as Christians Is by the help of God through his spirit

GreatAxeMan:
But one 52 year old agbaya "marrying" a 6 year old girl is wonderful isn't it? If you lack the discipline to be monogamous and commit to one spouse, who is stopping you from fulfilling your lustful desires like your child rapist fake "prophet"? After all the main reward you will get in Jannah is polygamy and everlasting sex.
Please sir / ma
Kindly instruct in love
Remember Christianity represents love

Interesting15:
It is no longer a secret that premarital sex (or fornication) is something prominent in the circle of youths today. However, it's not only a sin, but there are also tons of terrible repercussions attached to the act. The Bible is straightforward about sexual immorality.

"Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside to the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body" 1 Corinthians 6: 18

Yes, I know you have healthy sexual urges. But you must know how to be in control of yourself, hence you find yourself in trouble and get disgraced (the devil utilizes sin to disgrace people). Trust me, living holy and chaste in a corrupt society like ours is still possible, and it's very beautiful.

"Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness... Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience" (Colossians 3:5,6)

Premarital sex comes with terrible spiritual repercussions too. When a person indulge in it, you give access to the devil to plunder your life ruthlessly.. And what the devil does is to "steal, kill, and destroy" (John 10:10)

"Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?" (1Corinthians 6:19)

You don't own yourself actually. Hence, you must live your life pleasing God in holiness and in truth.

There are several sexual temptations out there today. In your school, at home, there are several agents of sexual temptations. Hence, you must always avoid people, places, things, and situations that can lure you into sexual immorality.

"For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit which are God's" (1 Corinthians 6: 20)

When it comes to living a life of true holiness, it gets easier as you give yourself wholly to the Lord Jesus, because He will send the Holy Spirit to you, Who will help you (the Holy Spirit is our Helper). So, if you are yet to give your life to JESUS, this is another good opportunity, as tomorrow might just be too late...

Simply tell Jesus, "LORD JESUS, have mercy on me and come into my life".

"Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie" Revelation 22:14, 15

You are blessed for honouring GOD with your body. You will be rewarded by God both here on earth and in eternity..

But if you die in sexual immorality (young people too can die anytime) or the rapture should take place now (the signs are more and more stronger), such person will be condemned into the lake of fire (where there's no more room for repentance).
Please help yourself by aligning with GOD now that you are still young.

https://www.sundayakanni.com/2022/06/about-high-rate-of-immoral-sex-amongst.html?m=1

Augustwife:
I had to open a new moniker so I can rant in peace. My head is full, so it's going to be a long post .

I got married to the love of my life 2017 (we started dating 2009) and we have two wonderful children.
He loves me (I know for sure), doesn't cheat too and my in-laws are the most wonderful people on earth ( my mil especially).

We have a joint business but the bad part :he is addicted to alcohol.

He wasn't like this before we got married, he used to drink occasionally so I can't really tell how we got here.

It's so bad that he can't go a day without it. Once he can't lay his hands on alcohol he will begin to shiver like a malaria patient.

This addiction has gotten us into debts that I had to pay with my savings on several occasions.

I'm talking of debts of 120k, 167k, 136k e.t.c. He's takes several loans from loan sharks , drinks like no tomorrow.

He has wrecked ourbbusiness and only with the help of God was I able to rebuild It by taking loans and paying back.

We even decided he gets a job so he can be more responsible but after working for a year he had nothing to show for it.

Twice his parents had to take him to a therapist but it was all in vain as he would go back to drinking.

My head is scattered,I can't think straight, it's making me hate him. I tried leaving a few weeks ago , I went back to my mother's house but trust my mama, she begged me to go back and my mother in-law too.

I don't even know what to do, my mental life is zero, I have withdrawn from everyone, I'm practically in poverty due to this addiction
He is a wonderful man BUT this addiction is a very big problem. We have prayed, fasted, gone to doctors but it's still there.

I don't know what to do .

Failure44:
I'm reaching in a depressive state of mind.
I can't stop masturbating towards pictures of my ex, I had stopped for 4 months but I immediately backslided one day and now am back doing it chronically.
We recently talked and it was 100% obvious she had moved on from me but I still haven't moved on.

I need counseling pls not insults or jokes.

AntiChristian:
According to their Bible, Jesus came to die. Judas helped him fulfill this. And he became condemned.

Even the Bible became confused as to how Judas died!

Judas is supposed to be celebrated since good Friday is good and not bad!

Whazar:
Abeg clear me

NwaAmaikpe:




It is an assurance that God can not run out of patience on us irrespective of the sins we commit, his grace is ever sufficient.

That's why I do not shortchange myself, I will commit whatever iniquity I can because God knows I am imperfect, so why will I try to act righteous when only him is righteous?

Does kabashing and speaking in tongues stop the preek of a pastor from rising when he is enticed?

No.

Spirituality doesn't make us less humans.