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cooldood:
So, m still waiting for a response from the veterans here, especially on the manual corolla 2008. Drivers, whats your advice n experience like?

I have a driver for you, give me ur number.

Romeo3:
you need to change your mode of operation. 4500 is too low for 8hrs. with what you did yesterday, even without the 40% reduction you would have only made 6300.

use destination trips in the mornings and head to the island where there is always a surge.

Lol

You mean to say drivers need surge to even make little income. 8hours for 4500, minus fuel money, that means you are loosing.

Sometimes u go to surge area, you won't get any request.

What I'm seeing now is Uber has flooded Lagos Road with a lot of cars, @the end all drivers will struggle to meet up.

vpaymoney:
So na 1m you for take? Go and buy 2000model and expect 40k. But prepare your mind for 15k sha!

Thats why most of you dont have car to drive, because you are looking for who you will take advantage off.

Golf3 deliver 21k weekly.

naijacutee:
To be fair, regardless of what company you drive for, I think there is a huge disparity between rental and HP arrangements.

I don't think any rental car agreement should be above N30,000 weekly as drivers need to have the incentive of owning the car to pay higher. Whoever requests higher than this should prepare to have their car wrecked, and basically, they won't recover their investment.

I think you can just buy like 5cars for Uber anD supply it for rental, for less than 30k weekly. @ least set an example for others.

alstarmayo:
you want to collect 40k a week for a year 2000 car a car that is worth 700k. someone will call you Sha, the country is hard

I know you cannot buy a tire, but you can easily calculate the amount a vehicle is worth.

That camry current tokunbo price is 1.7m, maybe ask your village people to buy it for you.

oloriesther:
In need of an experienced and serious minded uber driver grin on rental basis to handle a clean fuel efficient car already on uber.

Car model: Toyota camry 2000
Rentals : 40k/week
2 reliable and confirmed guarantors

If the above conditions are not suitable for you, please don't bother contacting me. Offer only for a serious minded and hard working driver.
08181551325

Go to Uber office in lekki plenty of drivers looking for partners.

Josmila:
How about you drive it yourself for a week or two and see if 40k is feasible?

40k weekly is feasible, that type of carry doesn't consume fuel.

And lately nobody want offline trip, because Uber is cheap.

Romeo3:
not all riders want to pay more.

many riders are also leaving taxify.

having drivers available doesnt translate to quality service.

an increase in price is good for drivers but bad for riders. i converse with riders alot so i am also not just typing gibberish. i hear what people say about taxify.

in the long run taxify doesnt pay drivers on weekends because of their fixed price and no surges. as a driver who wants to make money over the weekend, taxify cannot provide that avenue.

to defeat your fallacious analogy of riders wanting to pay more for better service, on weekends and days when uber is more expensive than taxify because of surges and customers are paying more, how does that translate to quality service?

is quality service restricted now to whoever is charging riders higher?

if taxify is more expensive on friday and uber is more expensive on saturday, can you tell which of them is rendering quality service?

it's not about sitting down and analyzing and pressing calculator. what do the facts say? i believe in, and i work with facts. facts can only be gotten from experience.

As one of Uber rider, Im telling you from my own experience and other Uber riders experiences.

There is huge frustration getting Uber cars to take you to your destination, you have to plan your trip, like 45mins ahead, and @ the end you might end up not getting it. that gives room for alternatives.

In times of quality services, Uber cannot command any quality, there are more horrible cars on the road and because its a cheap ride we riders have no choice.

Believe me Uber is a scam, they collect 10k for drivers screening/background check? How come a policeman arrest Uber driver with fake driver's license? Why didn't the background check detect the fake license?

Im not advocate of Taxify or Uber, but I see Uber as a company ready exploit and take advantage.

For you it makes perfect sense, because its gives you the opportunity of owning your own car and surviving. I still believe a little increase in Uber price, might bring in more cars on the road and end riders frustration of waiting for almost an hour and end up not getting a car

Romeo3:
14k in 17hrs is not the correct way to look at it and i have explained.

by the end of the week, you will get the real average after the whole top up thing. you also have surges.

look, these are the calculations keeping me on uber mehn.

Why Uber cant stabilize their price, Riders want to pay more to get quality service.

Many riders now have started using Taxify because they have drivers available.

Maybe an increase on the price, will make more drivers hit the road.

Maybe the 40k won't be cash, it will be 40k free tide.

lexylexy:
I believe Uber will soon raise their prices. The fact that it's more profitable to cancel trips than going on the actual trip itself is a huge flaw.

most riders I pick these days always complain about the cancellation fee. even some of them refuse to pay the 1k, claiming the driver cancelled the trip. Some just delete the app straight.

So, Uber really need to look into this anomaly before it wrecks them.

Uber might never raise their prices, uber will profit more with reduced rate, alot of people are now demanding Uber, even tomato market women are now demanding Uber to carry their tomatoes and pepper from Mile 12..

The only way to stop Uber from this exploitation is partners united, maybe form a union, which is impossible under Uber policy.

Maybe taxify should offer free ride to riders, and still pay driver the normal amount, maybe that will help get plenty of riders.

For now Uber job is for real super hard working drivers.

GidiWoodsMan:
How will your friend know the location unless he meets the rider?

I think uber should be designed such that the driver is notified of potential rider destination immediately he sees the request, so he can decide whether its a safe zone for him to enter or not. This is Lagos not the western world. Roads can be unmotorable, flooded, gridlocked with traffic, etc

It seems you dont get it, in other country drivers know their destination, but here we are treated as zombie, drivers dont know riders destination until they start the trip.

Uber knows there are alot of terrible places in Lagos, and if they let drivers know their destination, there will be too many cancellation.

Uber want you to take many trips, so they get their 25%.

newness12:
Dear Threaders,

I'm just wondering why so much attack on Romeo3. This is a free country. We're free to use our time as it pleases us. Nobody has a right to make someone else live the same way as them.

If Uber doesn't suit you, kiss it goodbye & if it does go ahead and have yourself a ball. Don't try to destroy someone because he refuses to be like you.

And for those who are Dangote's mates here, you're in the wrong place. I guess many of us are here because we want to be like you. Don't discourage us by bringing down a diehard, upward looking young man.
This is not a millionaires club but a place for those who desire to be millionaires from scratch & ready to work their 'ass' out.

Some of us look up to Romeo3's posts. We're not interested in any pedantic or educated theorists. Look around, apart from inventors and a few educated barrier breakers, a lot of other millionaires are Street hustlers.

Let Romeo3 be for heaven's sake.

Nobody is attacking romeo3, infact I want to have a driver like him, against all odds, he is pushing so hard to get there, I really do wish him all the best.

My advice for him, is to save more, incase Uber fall apart, or his car has constant issues.

Most dealers on HP, take advantage of when buyers don't meet up the weekly payment.

Life is full of lessons, we just have to keep learning.

I have a friend, his target is to earn his money through cancellation, he get to Rider destination, he wont bother call the rider, he only allow the app to notify the rider, because he knows he wont make up to 1k taking the rider to his destination, he choose the option of waiting the rider a little, so he can cancel, if the trip is worth more than the cancellation, he wont choose to cancel, he might even wait more, so he can make his money.

Uber is doing what they think is best for Uber, so I advise partners to do what is best for them.

For those of you who protested and shut down Uber app because the price is ridiculous and Uber choose to ignore you,

You dont need to shut down, you play Uber to their own game, frustrate them within their terms, Like Rider no show is one of the best option.

Rider no show will frustrate a lot of Riders, when they are frustrated to seek alternative.

Uber love to play dirty, Partners should also play dirty.

Finally, if your Rider ask you to take them to Ikorodu, you dont need to go, just cancel the ride.

Romeo3:
all fingers arent equal. i wasnt born with a silver spoon and i have never claimed to be born with a silver spoon. everything i own today i got from working hard.

i am a grassroot hustler and i am proud of it. apart from driving on uber i am a computer hardware and software repair and maintenance technician. hustling is my life because thats the condition i found myself. i dream big and my dreams keep working out for me because i never fail to see and maximize opportunity.

you think you are mocking me when you call me a grassroot hustler and say my dream is to pay off the HP?

what job on earth would one do that doesnt require tilling the soil hard? in an effort to bring someone down, some of you sound so stupid... what is wrong in someone working his ass off to achieve his aim? is it your ass?

show me one famous sucessful person who didnt start small? did they all own it just like that?

yes i am a little guy. yes i am a grassroot hustler. yes i till the soil hard. it's my story. it's also the story of hundreds of guys reading this thread daily looking for a way on how to be successful driving on uber or on taxify.

i show them that it is possible and i show facts. That you own 10 cars on uber and dont have to lift a finger is your own problem. i dont care about that.

i will hustle, i will till the soil hard, i will pay off my HP. when the HP has been paid off and the car is mine i'll keep driving till i buy a newer car for myself and remit weekly to myself.

there is no shame in what i do. i am very proud of myself. there is dignity in every job. i may not own a car right now and have to drive on HP but 2 years down the line i may have 10 cars and drivers working for me because of my work ethics

say whatever nonsense you like. you cannot bring me down. if uber is kicked out, i'll join taxify. if taxify is kicked out i'll join ogataxi. if they are all kicked out, i'll devise another way to survive.

When you call thing exactly the way it is, people think you are mocking them.

Im only trying to point out the differences between you and olugbenga, this is not about mocking you.

You fall into the category of people Uber will use to achieve their aim, and I have friends that are in that category.

According to them, Uber job is like a zombie job, you receive a request sending you to certain location, you look @ the Waybill it tells you everything, but you dont know the rider destination,it only tells you as directed.

You get to the rider destination, sometimes 3km away, you wait for the rider sometimes more than 10mins, then rider gets in, then you start the trip, then destination appears, then you see destination such as Arepo, Ijagun, sango, Ikorodu. some of those areas are not motor-able, because you have to work as a zombie, then you head to areas where you risk your live because Uber want you to get there 25%. and you end the trip you wont get more than 1500-1800.

Another scenario you travel 3km way, then pick up 4 riders, after ending the trip, you see your earning on that trip as 350naira, you know is not worth it, but you hve to do it to survival.

kudsweet:
Uber is known for controversies and the management refused to adopt strategy that is best for business.

I give kudos for those still working as a driver on that platform cos body go tell Una, you guys are still enjoying this period.

Riders are embracing other platforms now as Uber fails to deliver.
A rider sometimes stays over 30mins before getting a ride, very ridiculous unlike when the going was good for Uber .

I think you are right, riders prefer to pay higher fee to taxify, than facing the frustration of getting cheap Uber.

My friend requested a ride, they put her on waiting for 30mins, finally when the driver arrived he just parked outside, refusing to call the rider, just waiting out the 5mins grace time. Immediately after 5mins he cancelled the ride, and my friend was charged 1000 naira. she angrily delete uber app and make use of taxify.

I wont really blame the driver, it shows the driver covers almost 3km to arrive my friend destination, and the fare calculation to my friend destination, wont be more than 700 naira. So it will be a good deal for the driver to cancel the ride, and get his cancellation fee.

Forget all the smiles you get from Uber drivers, They know Uber is killing them, and making the riders happy, @Romeo3 once quote fuk the riders, that he wont accept all destinations, despite his claim of making cool money, he knows he need to till the soil so hard to achieve his aim.

@OlugbengaE you need to understand Romeo3 is a grass root hustler, his dream is to pay off the HP deal, so he doesn't care if he is over used.

Finally, I pray UberNigeria is kicked out of Nigeria, they are fraudulent with their promo. They promise 40k to refer a new car, but some claim they have not paid it, even after 20 trips, has been taking.

OlugbengaE:
The math has been written out all over the internet. When you drive for Uber, you are essentially borrowing the future value of your car from yourself, to pay yourself today. The maintenance costs alone barely keep up what Uber pays you. So while you may get away with no costs in the short term, eventually you're going to have to pay down the road.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQPj90OrQE

Correct

OlugbengaE:
So I picked up a lady yesterday from Ikeja. We passed through yaba and this girl said she wants to buy things from the market I refused telling her she didn't tell me before we left. Anyway i agreed so I parked at the market o waiting for her. Then the area boys came saying parking is 300. I said gwen. After about 15 mins the girl came back and I told her to pay the 300 this girl refused ooo saying she cant pay at all that I should run them over. She started cursing me oo that I am fool this and that. I just smiled I told her I cant run them over. She said I was too lenient that other cab drivers will no listen to them but just run over.

Anyway she paid them 200 cursing and abusing me.

The cheap girl put his leg ontop of my dashboard

This rich man that has fleet of cars in Uber, I thought you said you will never go online in Uber, even Uber caledl from South Africa to persuade you to go back to Uber, and you swear you will never go online, unless the price is reverse?

Pls explain to me what happen?

OlugbengaE:
Uber will shortly die in Lagos. It's been a long slow death. Taxify will follow. Then we will be back to the horrible experience of negotiating every ride, being cheated, robbed, and having our butts poked by seat springs in cabs in Lagos.

Why are ride hailing apps going to die? Well, it starts with not focusing on the customer experience. Uber has long been accused of focusing only on profits. In Lagos it is no different. The customer experience has been horrible since day 1. How can you be a professional driver whose only job is to use a map to find people and take them places on a map and you don't know how to use a map?

As one of the top Uber riders in Lagos, I have tried over and over. I make it my personal mission to teach each driver how to use the map. I even gave my map reading for West Africans lecture to the launcher for Uber in Lagos and volunteered to hold classes for the drivers.

But nothing worked. Uber shields itself from many things by saying, "They are not our drivers, they are our partner's drivers. That is not an excuse. The end result is that the customer is suffering, and has been suffering for years in Lagos.

So all of the sudden you start losing riders to Taxify. Why? Because you have been delivering a shitty customer experience for 2 years and people are desperate for a better one. Nobody left Uber for the price. They left Uber because the customer experience was terrible. I disputed a cancellation fee the other day because after 30 minutes I got tired of watching the driver drive everywhere but towards me. The response from Uber support was, "As a token of appreciation, we are crediting you the cancellation fee." It's obvious that the complete disregard, even hostility, towards customers goes all the way up the Uber management chain.

So instead of making dramatic improvements in the customer experience like deactivating all drivers with less than a 4.5 rating, and having a mass crash course on map reading, what does Uber do? Drop their price. Great, now you have instantly taken what was a luxury and turned it into a commodity where all that matters is the lowest price. You just destroyed the market.

Today I booked an Uber and the driver called me to say he could take me but not on the Uber app. I would have to pay cash. So I booked a Taxify. When we arrived after driving 20km over 1.5 hours, his fare came to 1,200 Naira. Because of the price war, his fuel cost was more than the fare. This is not sustainable.

So how can Uber save itself? Just like I said, focus on the customer. Stop depending on your partners to train their drivers. They won't do it. Get you hands dirty. Require a crash course in map reading for all drivers. Have secret shoppers and deactivate and retrain drivers that call riders and ask them "where exactly are you?" Instantly deactivate drivers that are rude or have more than 3 cancellations. In a few weeks Uber could retrain many drivers, improve the customer experience and start to gain some customer loyalty that would prevent everyone from going to Taxify.

Taxify needs to do the same if they expect to win in the war against Uber. Fix the buggy app, allow me to use foreign cards, and train the drivers better than Uber drivers, and everyone will switch.

If Neither Taxify or Uber very quickly focus on the customer, they will both die and the only winners will be the horrible yellow cab dinosaurs. Lagos won't be a livable city anymore, so please do something.



https://www./why-ride-hailing-apps-lagos-die-how-save-them-rich-tanksley

Commentators always think their opinion is the best, why not go out there and create your own Uber.

You dont want 2005 cars, because you want Uber to remain in the circle of the middle class, the poor will always outnumber the rich in Nigeria, any business model that target only high class, dont last long.

I think Uber reducing the age of the car is the best business decision they have made in Nigeria.

The current pricing remain horrible, but I believe Uber will increase their price soon. Dont forget it was Taxify that started the pricing war.

Nigerians are quick to conclude the pastor is guilty. Why not wait the court proceeding and see more details.

Where are the banners?

Johnadu:
I think Romeo3 should also support the protest so he doesn't loose his HP vehicle on the long run.
Taxify issues is not as complex as Uber because they take 5% commission.
Let us all support tomorrow protest plsssss

You are part of the problem, you agreed with Taxify for low fare, because they are charging 5% and you think 5% can sustain Taxify on the long run?
And you see a honest company like Uber that insist on 25%, you now felt its greed.

I wont advise Romeo3 to join the protest because presently he has an obligation to fulfill. Maybe the future will take care of itself, when thing between taxify and Uber fall in place.

Romeo3:
I spent 6k on fuel. not 10

what other expenses took 3k? are you now calculating my expenses for me?

what surge? I did 17 trips yesterday and only one of them was a surge trip. if I follow the surge and don't make 30k and above, I should be checked.

bro we don't view life through the same lens. if you think it is a channel to failure you will fail not me.

Now I know you are on HP, and I hope you succeed.
With my experience in transport business, your car might start developing serious problem, after 6months or 1year. which will lead to frequent visit to mechanic workshop and then you might not be able to fulfill your weekly pay of HP.

Many have lost their cars on HP after 1year...

And with this Uber new price, that is what will likely happen to most HP deals.

Johnadu:
Uber agents are 2 here. Jpworld and Romeo3

@Johnadu @OlugbengaE
Don’t blame @Romeo3 he is on HP and if he default, the car will be taken away, even if Uber slash the price to 80% he will continue working.
But you @OlugbengaE you own couple of cars, you must have saved a lot and can probably decide to rest for the next 6months or find alternative business.

@Johnadu I’m never in support of the price slash, but I’m of the opinion that Taxify that is the main culprit should be pressured to adjust it fare back to normal.
You can’t ask only Uber to come back to normal price and allow Taxify to continue giving out a ridiculous price, which will give Taxify a big advantage in gaining more Uber riders.
Maybe a call for government regulation will be a wise idea

Romeo3:
I don't understand the last question.

what happens to the vehicle before the reduced fares?

as a rule of thumb I service every vehicle I have been driving on uber after 5000 miles. mind you, I achieve 5000 miles in about 3 weeks plus. I also check the linkages and every other part of the vehicle.

what would happen to it?

before the new pricing I make over 20k on weekends. after the new pricing I still made 20k with the same amount of fuel.

what is the problem here?

the protagonists of this issue base their "facts" on assumption. none of you have made a single effort to even try out the pricing regime for even a week before drawing out conclusions.

assumptions aren't facts. stop assuming and present facts.

Well, I have never drive Uber, So you know better.

I think you win! You need to do what you think is best. Good luck.

Romeo3:
if you listen to these people you will never make a head start.

out of the over 7k I have made today, there is a trip I took that gave me 262 naira after uber and another that gave me over 4k after uber's 25%. it all added up to the 7k.

listening to these people, one would think the only routes available on uber are 650 naira. each.

you would also think that uber is all about Ojota to Ojuelegba to and fro, to and fro.

bro as long as you are online you will make money. forget these pessimists. good for you is that you are accountable to no one but yourself.

It seems you just join uber, your blood still they hot.

The point the other guy is making is that the fare is too cheap and is not worth it on a long run, I agree you will be seeing your money daily. But what happen to your vehicle after couple of months?

40% slash price strategy of Taxify and Uber required heavy subsidies to both riders and drivers, and that strategy will surely cost both companies.
At the moment I don’t think any of them is making money.
They might finally call for a truce and form an alliance, but before that will happen one company will sell to the other.

eluquenson:
Yes, Taxify created the whole issue but Uber failed to play the game well, if Taxify is extremely cheap for riders, I believe they will revert their price cos they will have few drivers to do the job.
Now, if Uber revert, I bet it Taxify will have no choice than to do same.

All parties need to enjoy the business not the principal initiator alone.

Hundreds of cars rejected by Uber will do the job, and most riders will just ignore Uber and join Taxify. Dont just think one sided, think all aspect.

Remember in Nigeria anything cheap sells fast. Which will result to Taxify gaining more ground and kicking Uber out.

Didi Chuxing use such strategy to kick Uber out of China.

Believe me Uber is loosing revenue, with this price reduction, but they have to do it, to remain competitive.

Pls start up a serious protest against Taxify, they are the one frustrating the business not Uber.

Some of this people calling for protest, might actually be Taxify agents,doing everything possible to make sure Uber reverse to the old price, giving Taxify the opportunity to take most Uber riders.

eluquenson:
That is what was posted on WhatsApp group I belong, you guys should understand the ethics of business as regards labour law. Peaceful protest, strike is part of the tools to show grievance.

Uber makes a hell of profit in Nigeria more than any other country they exist.

This is pure exploitation due to lack of government regulations.

If you protest against only Uber, then you are giving Taxify free hand, and the real culprit is Taxify.

They are the one behind all this.

If Taxify dont go back to formal rate, then Uber should stand it ground. It cant be only Uber.

If Uber reverse, then Taxify will steal all Uber riders.

Car owners should be wise and take off their vehicles, until everything gets back to normal.

eluquenson:
For your information

There will be a rally on Monday 8th May at Ikoyi, all Uber drivers will converge and make a peaceful protest against this exploitation.

Pls, I will enjoin you guys to participate, they have seek necessary approvals from the Police force, hence no intimidation from any law enforcement agency.

Find below pics of the approval taken.

Our struggles will not go in vain.

Protesting against business decision,I thought if you dont like it you quit, is not by force...

And why are you guys not crucifying Taxify, they started it all, since you love Taxify simply quit Uber, and do only taxify.

OlugbengaE:
Uber and Riders do not have any car. they both depend on the drivers.
You as a driver,will you go online on taxify when you know its greener on Uber?
So nobody will on their Taxify app. Riders cant drive themselves they need drivers. when there are no drivers they open their Uber app

Drivers also depend on ride sharing App, and riders to make money Isn’t?
You drivers are dancing Between Uber and Taxify, so will riders dance between Uber and Taxify. Since Taxify offers cheaper ride, most riders will use Taxify. And that will Kick Uber out of business. There are hundreds of cars register with Taxify that are not listed in Uber, so if you ignore Taxify, many will not.
Don’t blame Uber for reacting, it’s normal in business.
When Uber came no competition with Taxify, drivers and owners are making it, why didn’t they remain loyal to Uber, why did they start having both Apps? Because you all are looking for better deal.
So will riders look for a better deal?