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PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by Justcash(m): 5:11am On Feb 24, 2011
[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=609593.msg7789650#msg7789650 date=1298519895]What is your reasoning for saying this? I calculated the cost of the buses earlier in the thread. $67K or so, iirc. What is Innoson's price, and why would the price balloon to 5X of that?
So my question for you is this. How much are you willing to overpay for the gov't to support Innoson? 1.1X? 2X? 5X? Everyone has a different price point. What is yours? Me, 1.1 or 1.2X is the most I'm willing to pay.
I don't think anyone is against creating jobs. But if it is an industry you are subsidizing, you have to ask yourself if the benefits outweigh the costs. This depends on how much you have to spend on subsidies, and how much benefit is derived from the subsidy (in terms of jobs, etc, etc).
Well, investors usually look to invest if they can make a profit. If there is only profit to be made with massive subsidy. . . not clear that it benefits either side.[/quote][b]WITH THE WAY YOU ARGUE, ONE WOULD ACTUALLY THINK THAT AMERICANS WERE FOOLS FOR ALLOWING OBAMA'S ADMINISTRATION TO BORROW MONEY FROM CHINA  TO BAIL OUT SOME OF THEIR AUTO MANUFACTURERS. THEY WENT AGAINST THEIR CORE CAPITALIST PRINCIPLES TO DO THAT. THAT IS A CASE OF HOW MUCH SUCH AN INDUSTRY CAN MEAN TO JOBS AND TAX.
THEY COULD HAVE AS WELL ALLOWED AMERICAN AUTO MANUFACTURERS TO FOLD UP, AFTERALL THERE ARE CHEAPER ASIAN CARS .E.G. TOYOTA THAT COULD SUPPLEMENT THEM.
YOUR ATTITUDE IS NOT NEW TO ME. MANY NIGERIANS LIKE YOU PREFER TO BUY IMPORTED"POLO" BY RALPH LAUREN SHIRTS AT THE RATE OF 1500-20000, WHEN THERE ARE NIGERIAN MADE POLOS THAT COST LESS THAN 2000, THAT CAN BEAT BIG BRANDS IN THE LONG-TERM IF PATRONIZED.
STOP TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZING ANYTHING FOR AUTO- MANUFACTURERS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO. ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS TO TRY TO STIMULATE EMPLOYMENT FOR NIGERIANS THROUGH USING POLICIES TO ENCOURAGE THEM. AT THE MOMENT, GOVERNMENT EVEN GAT A BIG LOAN FACILITY FOR AUTO MANUFACTURERS. IS THAT THE SOLUTION? NO!  THEY SHOULD HELP TO CREATE PATRONAGE FOR THEM, THEREBY ENCOURAGING JOB CREATION.

I DON'T INTEND TO ARGUE ANY LONGER WITH YOU. I FEEL LIKE I AM TELLING YOU THINGS YOU SHOULD HAVE LEARNT.

WELL, I ENCOURAGE INNOSON TO SEEK FOR A WAY OUT OF NIGERIA IF HE IS NOT MAKING ANY PROGRESS. I HEARD THAT HE IS BEING PATRONIZED BY TRANSPORTERS AND SOME SOUTH-EAST GOVERNORS.
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PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by Justcash(m): 4:47am On Feb 24, 2011
[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=609593.msg7789579#msg7789579 date=1298518200]See the thing is, when one has to jump to racism/bigotry as the first explanation, it suggests poor reasoning. We still have not seen a price quote from INNOSON or this other company. Almost certainly, the bus costs more from them than the Chinese company (for obvious reasons.)

At that point, it isn't "despise products that are made in Nnewi", but another businessman saying, "Damn, why should I pay more for this locally made item when I can get it cheaper abroad?"

So what does all this tribalism stuff that you brought up have to do with anything? Should we point a gun at anyone's head and say he MUST buy the more expensive product?

Why not instead attack the problem of making the locally produced goods CHEAPER? Help the local businessman by fixing electricity. Maybe by providing healthcare benefits for his employees. Tax holidays. Subsidize fuel for him. Whatever. There are so many ways to attack the problem. We can debate the relative merits of each.

But instead of having such a debate, ya'll are just whining and crying, especially OnlyTruth's bleatings about the international community.[/quote][b]1. BY THE TIME THOSE BUSES ARRIVE IN NIGERIA, THEY WILL BE 5 TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN INNOSON'S BUSES.
2. IF INNOSON HAS DEFIED ALL THE ODDS, AND IS PRODUCING NIGERIAN MADE CARS, WHAT IS STOPPING THE FG FROM HELPING TO PROTECT THEM FROM FAILURE?
3. WE CRY ABOUT LACK OF JOBS, WHY CAN'T FG USE ONE STONE TO KILL 20 BIRDS BY STIMULATING EMPLOYMENT THROUGH ENCOURAGING MORE AUTO MANUFACTURERS TO SPRING UP. DEFINITELY THEY WOULD SPRING UP IF INNOSON BECOMES SUCCESSFUL.
4. WHY NOT ALSO USE THE CRAZE FOR IMPORTED CARS TO CREATE A SOURCE OF NATIONAL INCOME, WHILE ENCOURAGING LOCAL MANUFACTURING AND FDI?
5. LOCAL AUTO MANUFACTURERS CAN ONLY GROW AND PRODUCE BETTER PRODUCTS IF THEY ARE ENCOURAGED AND SUPPORTED. FOR EXAMPLE, IF INNOSON CANNOT EMPLOY  INTERNATIONALLY RENOWNED TOTAL QUALITY MANAGERS(TQM) NOW, HE CAN DO IT IN FUTURE WITH MORE PROFITABILITY AND URGE FOR CUSTOMER SATISFACTION.

THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, IF THE FEW AUTO MANUFACTURERS IN PLACE FOLDS UP, INVESTORS WILL NOT DARE TO INVEST IN THAT SECTOR. OFCOURSE BUSINESS IS DONE WITH CASE STUDIES AND SCENARIOS.

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PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by Justcash(m): 4:33am On Feb 24, 2011
jason123:
You always think people hate igbos but that is not the case please calm down and stop this hatred you have for everyone especially yorubas. Dapo's comments were purely based on economics but you all took it that he did not like the eastern region and etc. Please calm down!Ndo, Thank you
LMAO!!!!! YOU ARE STILL MAKING TRIBALISTIC STATEMENTS WHILE TRYING TO JUSTIFY MY SUPPOSED BIAS THAT IS NON EXISTENT. WHOEVER TOLD YOU THAT I THINK PEOPLE HATE IGBOS? LOL!
I AM A STRONG ADVOCATE OF A POLITICAL RE-ORIENTATION IN NIGERIA. THIS IS PURELY FOR THE SAKE OF PEACE AND PROGRESS. I ADVOCATE FOR A CON-FEDERATION OR OUTRIGHT DIVISION. MY PERSISTENCE ON DIVISION IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT NIGERIANS ARE NOT READY TO ACCEPT A CON-FEDERAL SYATEM OF GOVERNMENT. MY BELIEF DOES NOT IN ANYWAY MAKE ME TRIBALISTIC.

NOW, YOU AND YOUR DAPO ARE ALWAYS READING TRIBAL MEANING IN EVERYTHING. DAPO WAS FAST TO INSULT IGBOS BECAUSE I HAD A DIRECT ARGUMENT WITH HIM. MY POINT IS THAT, IT IS YOU AND THE LIKES OF DAPO THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE YOUR MINDSETS, TO AID YOUR CONSTRUCTIVE REASONING.
HOWEVER, THE WAY YOU TWO REASON (IN A TRIBALISTIC WAY) CLEARLY GIVES A GOOD REASON WHY NIGERIA NEEDS A DIVISION. IF NIGERIA WAS ONE, YOU TWO WOULD NOT BE READING TRIBALISTIC MEANING IN EVERYTHING SAID BY AN IGBO.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by Justcash(m): 4:19am On Feb 24, 2011
[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=609593.msg7789521#msg7789521 date=1298517011]You aren't involved in any sort of legitimate business, simple as that. Don't get mad at me for that.[/quote]I AGREE  cool cool cool cool cool. SO GO AND REST IN PEACE. MAY GOD GRANT MY PRAYERS TO STAY FAR AWAY FROM A COW LIKE YOU AND YOUR LIKES.

jason123:
It does because you said you products are despised and all. You also said Nigerians "Nigeria that had produced the same DVD machines and simply called them"Nnamdi". These DVD machines may be produced in Nigeria by the my same Japanese employees, with the same equipments and same quality. Yet it will be despised because it is made in Nnewi and Nigeria.

Nigeria is a hopeless country. I don't even advise any profit-focused manufacturer to manufacture in Nigeria, especially my fellow Igbos, bec"

Etc. Well, this is my opinion
SO STATING THAT NIGERIANS DESPISE PRODUCTS THAT ARE MADE IN NNEWI AND NIGERIA [/b]IMPLIES IGBO SUPREMACY AND TRIBALISM?
STATING THAT I DON'T EVEN ADVISE [b]ANY PROFIT FOCUSED MANUFACTURER IN NIGERIA
, ESPECIALLY MY IGBO BORTEHRS, IMPLIES IGBO SUPREMACY AND TRIBALISM?
MAKING ILLUSTRATION WITH AN IGBO NAME IMPLIES IGBO SUPREMACY AND TRIBALISM?

THINK WITH YOUR HEAD AND NOT YOUR HEART. YOU AND EKU-BEAR READ TRIBALISTIC MEANING UNNECESSARILY, AND IT IS BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE PROGRAMMED YOUR MINDSETS THAT WAY.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by Justcash(m): 4:08am On Feb 24, 2011
jason123:
[b]I detest eku-bear and those that feel that Nigerian manufacturers are not worth patronising. Pardon me, but their arguments just showed how useless some Nigerians are.
If I produce DVD machines in Japan, and decide to call them a twisted "Nnamdi" e.g Nnamotosoki. Eku bear and his fellow morons will rush to buy them, than if I had a branch in Nigeria that had produced the same DVD machines and simply called them"Nnamdi". These DVD machines may be produced in Nigeria by the my same Japanese employees, with the same equipments and same quality. Yet it will be despised because it is made in Nnewi and Nigeria.

Nigeria is a hopeless country. I don't even advise any profit-focused manufacturer to manufacture in Nigeria, especially my fellow Igbos, because their products will be despised.

Until disintegration of Nigeria becomes a reality, Nigerians shall never see progress. It will be 1 step forward, 1000 steps backwards always.


Your quote

also:

You are screaming revolution as if you will stand if it happens. Which group in Nigeria ever revolted against Nigeria? What happened to them? I am Igbo if you must know. I will rather stay away from your silly enclave than argue about how to revolt again and be backstabbed. I bet an uneducated person like you does not know




I detest eku-bear and those that feel that Nigerian manufacturers are not worth patronising. Pardon me, but their arguments just showed how useless some Nigerians are.
If I produce DVD machines in Japan, and decide to call them a twisted "Nnamdi" e.g Nnamotosoki. Eku bear and his fellow morons will rush to buy them, than if I had a branch in Nigeria that had produced the same DVD machines and simply called them"Nnamdi". These DVD machines may be produced in Nigeria by the my same Japanese employees, with the same equipments and same quality. Yet it will be despised because it is made in Nnewi and Nigeria. [/b]
HOW DOES THESE STATEMENTS IMPLY IGBO OR BIAFRAN SUPREMACY?
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by Justcash(m): 4:07am On Feb 24, 2011
[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=609593.msg7789490#msg7789490 date=1298516354]Jesu! So you are saying that Nigeria has a competitive advantage over China when it comes to manufacturing?! grin  grin grin grin If it did. . . then this thread would not even exist, would it? If I remember correctly, even labor in China is slightly cheaper. Not to talk of the numerous other inputs.

Fake businessman!

You are a drug mule sitting in Japan somewhere.

What do you know of business when you swallow cocaine wrapped in condoms? Abeg, let me not report you to your local authorities.[/quote]LIKE I SAID, ARGUING WITH YOU WILL AMOUNT TO GIVING FREE EDUCATION TO A DUNCE.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by Justcash(m): 3:59am On Feb 24, 2011
jason123:
I did not disagree with you. I siad you were look at it from a tribal point of view when you started the Biafra/eastern region supremacy thing.

I never stated any Biafran/Eastern supremacy stuff. Show me where I did.  You, eku-bear (Goat) and co are turning it into a tribal issue. You guys seem not to know when you do that. It seems to be a big part of y'all. Look at eku-bear screaming Igbo everywhere as if anyone cares about where his moronic self is from.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by Justcash(m): 3:53am On Feb 24, 2011
jason123:
Guy, calm down. Dapo was discussing this issue from an econmic point of view which is the comparative advantage while you are looking at it from a tribal or ethnic point of view. It is not a conspiracy against anyone, please cheer up. smiley cool

How did I look at it from a Tribal angle? Between Nigeria and China, who got more comparative advantage in terms of cost of manufacturing? Why do you think spending millions in the process of importing and on the products themselves makes more sense than just doing it in Nigeria? Your Dapo knows nothing. You don't just need theoretical knowledge to understand what I am saying. You need practical knowledge.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by Justcash(m): 3:41am On Feb 24, 2011
alj harem:
did you just call dapo ewu, illiterate grin grin grin

guy you are clearly out of your league here wink take my advice go sleep grin grin grin mumu
Dapo and you reason like goats. Especially you. You are a bigger goat because you over value your "goaty" mate. Just a fact.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by Justcash(m): 3:30am On Feb 24, 2011
[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=609593.msg7789354#msg7789354 date=1298513674]Lol. Your argument is garbage. And never in your life put my name and m.oron in the same sentence. You who are not fit to lace my shoes, calling me a m.oron?

I laugh in Igbo.[/quote]Look at how many made in Japan electronics that you have. You may just have my brand among them. Those products would have been made in Nigeria if your local and illiterate brain was big enough to understand the principles of economics. If you think it is cheaper to manufacture in a foreign land than in Nigeria (Even with all the lack of basic infrastructures), then you must be a Demented Ass-h_ole.
Don't worry, one day, you will wake and find a Chinese Eku-bear, and you'll feel it is okay to have another slowpoke that is made in China. Ewu!
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by Justcash(m): 3:24am On Feb 24, 2011
againstGEJ:
Calm down - come on. Talk is cheap, and all you have done is just talk nothing else.

All these because a private organisation that has nothing to do with government decides to source their needs from somewhere else, then Nigeria is hopeless and should dis integrate? How many made in Nigeria products are on you as we speak? including the pant that you put on?

Your arguments are so sentimental and devoid of points that can be looked into and discussed.

When Lagos State under BRT bought their buses, where were yah? Even ordinary Church, example Winners Chapel, Redeem etc, when they bought their fleet of buses running into hundreds, none of them went to Annamco or Innoson, ask them why, they must have their reasons. It is anybody's business to spend their money buying products from where they like. Calm down. Nigeria will not dis integrate because we dont buy cars from these sources.
If you did not understand or see the points in what I wrote, then you may be either Myopic or simply Uneducated. FYI, I am a Manufacturer. I do so in a foreign land and export to Nigeria because of morons like you.
Contrary to your prayers, Nigeria will divide. By the way, If you could only understand my disintegration statement from the angle of this bus issue, then your problem must be about being uneducated than myopic.
You are screaming revolution as if you will stand if it happens. Which group in Nigeria ever revolted against Nigeria? What happened to them? I am Igbo if you must know. I will rather stay away from your stupid enclave than argue about how to revolt again and be backstabbed. I bet an uneducated person like you does not know the history of your enclave.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by Justcash(m): 2:39am On Feb 24, 2011
[b]This is the reason why Nigeria will never ever develop. Nigerian leaders and some Nigerians are annoyingly blind. Look at morons arguing that it is better to import cars into Nigeria than manufacturing them. Do you all know that in this type of deal;

1. Purchase Agency Consultancy services will be paid for?
2. Export and Import fees will be paid?
3. Shipping cost will be paid?
4. The Cost of Buses will be paid for?
5. Internal transportation of those buses to their locations will be paid for?

If the buses were bought from Nigerian manufacturers;

1. Cost of Buses will be paid for.
2. Internal transportation cost will be paid for.
3. The buyers can personally supervise the production of their buses.
4. The local bus manufacturers can easily offer first hand maintenance servies
5. Jobs will be created during Production, sales and Maintenance.

Now, can someone tell me which one is preferable? those of you talking about quality does not understand that the buyers will have a higher chance of supervising and ensuring quality when these buses are manufactured in Nigeria than when they are made in China.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH NIGERIANS? MY GOD!!!!!!

SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE JOBS, YET SOME NIGERIANS ARE AGAINST IT BECAUSE OF SOME STOOPID REASONS. HOW CAN JOBS BE CREATED WHEN WE KEEP IMPORTING THINGS THAT WE CAN MAKE FOR NO GOOD REASON?

All the government needs to do is to impose tax on imported cars and make them costlier than locally made cars, so that the local manufacturers can gain some patronage to aid their survival, while the government will make income from the tax (People will keep buying imported cars).
common sense!  In the long run, this will make popular car manufacturers to embark on FDI in Nigeria, because Nigeria's population is just too attractive, and more jobs will be stimulated. Gawd!!!! Some Nigerians are so dumb!!!

How can Nigeria's dwindling manufacturing base be salvaged when Nigerians think that it is safer and cheaper to import from outside?

I detest eku-bear and those that feel that Nigerian manufacturers are not worth patronising. Pardon me, but their arguments just showed how useless some Nigerians are.
If I produce DVD machines in Japan, and decide to call them a twisted "Nnamdi" e.g Nnamotosoki. Eku bear and his fellow morons will rush to buy them, than if I had a branch in Nigeria that had produced the same DVD machines and simply called them"Nnamdi". These DVD machines may be produced in Nigeria by the my same Japanese employees, with the same equipments and same quality. Yet it will be despised because it is made in Nnewi and Nigeria.

Nigeria is a hopeless country. I don't even advise any profit-focused manufacturer to manufacture in Nigeria, especially my fellow Igbos, because their products will be despised.

Until disintegration of Nigeria becomes a reality, Nigerians shall never see progress. It will be 1 step forward, 1000 steps backwards always.[/b]
PoliticsRe: Who Does Tinubu Think He Is? Why Does He Think That Acn Owns Sw Of Nigeria? by Justcash(op): 2:13pm On Feb 23, 2011
fstranger3:
STFU. Mind your business

Go talk about APGA and PPA, leave us alone. Wait a minute, those are dead parties aka Ojukwu PLC and like every thing Ibo, they have to attach themselves to the Yorubas to be relevant. Just as how, they all leave their decrepit abode in the  east  for better standard of living in the South West, how they prefer our universities to their glorified High schools, how they preferred our girls to the bear bear hermaphroditic females and lastly just as how they have to always compare themselves to the Almighty Yoruba race.

Dont you guys get tired! Anuofia you all.

LOL! F_OOL!  You are beating your chest about ACN in your poverty ridden shaft. ACN is a Nigerian party and not a Yoruba party, so I can say Tinubu is a Cow and nothing will happen. I will criticize him at any time. You can go and hug a wet transformer if you don't like it. Tribalistic illiterate. 

By the way, I'll suggest that you should go and register in an evening school in order to get proper education and less time in Nairaland. You also need to go to a reform home to cure your acute level of tribal hate. Anumanu. Keep wanking.
PoliticsRe: Who Does Tinubu Think He Is? Why Does He Think That Acn Owns Sw Of Nigeria? by Justcash(op): 1:33pm On Feb 23, 2011
rhymz:
Lately Tinubu has been talking too much bullcrap like he is afraid ACN might lose. Let us stop all these needless semantics of what GEJ said and did not say. It is ok to try to exploit GEJ's statement for political goodwill but I doubt if a majority of the Yorube tribe both educated and un-educated did not get what GEJ literally meant with the rascal statement. GEJ may not be refined, have the tact and finesse to make very clever degrading remarks about the opposition and go un-noticed and unscathed but he is not silly either to now curse the entire yoruba tribe in an effort to solicit for their votes, com'on people cut the man some slacks. Between Tinubu is only playing politics thats all but I think if he continues with the over flogging that issue of rascal ish, he might be verging on bigotry which may cause needless partisan votes and further divide the country along sectional lines of bigotry, nepotism and tribalism. I think the ACN should talk less about the PDP and concentrate on what they are going to do to better our lives, abi dem wan win the elections just because dem wan spite the PDP? Abeg enough of these PDP obsession, make we hear better gist jor and Tinubu himself needs to take a chill pill and sit back, he is not the one contesting why is he crying more than the bereaved na.
Abeg, help me tell them. Every statement against a Nigerian from the Yoruba ethnic group by an Igbo man is now a sound of war drums. This Ethnic blindness is the reason why I believe Nigeria will break in no time. 
PoliticsRe: Who Does Tinubu Think He Is? Why Does He Think That Acn Owns Sw Of Nigeria? by Justcash(op): 1:27pm On Feb 23, 2011
seanet02:
yeah, because the person i replied derives unending joy hurling insults on YORUBAS. Since i am not a fuc.kk.ii.nn.. naughty person like justcash need to be cautioned when they are on the high. As for the pure junk you hurled at me, i will ignore you and  pretend as if you are drunk. Chosen zero for illiteracy!!! You dey craze, why must you ibos always attack TINUBU, is it by force to join a Mainstream of I.D.I.O.T.S? GEJ will soon teach you a lesson in 2015, he will run for second term and will hand over to a Northerner in 2019, na slave you go dey do for live. Chinedu am i clear?
See a freaking Tribalist wanking in this thread because I mentioned that Tinubu should stop exhibiting unnecessary arrogance. How does talking against Tinubu mean talking against the Yoruba race. You are a big dirty F_OOL.
Keep Wanking, it is your job. You got a snail brain, Little wonder why Tinubu Found it easy to deceive an illiterate like you that he is your father. Very soon he'll tell you that he created you and your whole generation. Animal.

Anyway, what even brought about this Igbo vs Yoruba issue in this thread? Is this how mentally ill you are? Is ACN a regional party? You are very very stoopid
PoliticsWho Does Tinubu Think He Is? Why Does He Think That Acn Owns Sw Of Nigeria? by Justcash(op): 4:31am On Feb 23, 2011
Look at him ranting confidently that Jonathan will lose in the SW, when all Jonathan needs to do is to rig, and PDP will own all the states in SW. He should Shut up and pray hard for ACN to win in the states that they occupy now. Except he plans to rig too, ACN is not yet sure of any state. At the end, he will cry and go to courts as usual to gain justice after four years, only to forgo the seats again in the next elections.


You’ll Lose in S'West, Tinubu Tells Jonathan

Former Governor of Lagos State and a chieftain of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) Asiwaju Bola Tinubu has called on people of the southwest mostly the Yorubas not to cast their votes for President Goodluck Jonathan for calling their leaders rascal, stressing that Jonathan’s statement will not allow people of the region vote for him in the April elections.

While addressing a mammoth crowd at the Ake Place Ground in Abeokuta Tuesday at the flag off of the campaign of the governorship candidate of the party in Ogun State, Senator Ibikunle Amosun, Tinubu disclosed that Jonathan has abused both the elderly and the young in the southwest, saying “Jonathan abused our parents, sisters, brothers, we are going to tell him we are not rascals, we won’t give him our votes.”

The party’s flag off campaign for the April general elections had in attendance notable Yoruba leaders including national chairman of the party, Chief Bisi Akande, governor of Edo State, Comrade Adams Oshiomhole, his Lagos counterpart, Mr. Babatunde Fashola and National Publicity of the party, Alhaji Lai Mohammed.

Tinubu however condemned the statement credited to Jonathan that the southwest leaders are rascals saying the president has insulted fathers, mothers including the young ones in the region by his unguided statement.

He urged the people of the southwest to understand their pedigree and the position which God has placed on them in the affairs of the country stressing that the southwest has produced notable Nigerians who had contributed in no small measure to the socio economic and political development of the country.

He added that Jonathan would be punished for such statement at the general election saying he cannot make such comment here and have the votes of people in the region.

He therefore said the situation in the state was unfortunate but maintained that the time for change has come through the standard bearer of the party in the state, Senator Ibikunle Amosun.

He described Amosun as a courageous man that will transform the state and move the state to a greater height.
Tinubu equally called on the youth across the state to take their destiny in their hands saying they should follow the trend of change in other part of the country especially the recent one in Egypt where people sparked off revolution but ours would be through democratic process.

Akande who stormed the ancient city of Abeokuta to wish the incumbent administration of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) goodbye in the state, said ACN is set to sweep away poverty, unemployment, among others.

He advised the youth in the state to rise up to the task of rebuilding Ogun sate before handing over the party’s flag to Amosun.
Amosun in his speech advised the factional governorship candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Chief Tunji Olurin not to insult the intelligence of the people of the state, over a statement credited to the latter that he was on a mission to rebuild the state.
He said Olurin statement was unthinkable considering the fact that it was his party, PDP that misruled the state in the last eight years, adding that he (Olurin) openly insulted the intelligence of the people of the state.

According to him “just last week the unthinkable happened, the gubernatorial candidate of the PDP, General Tunji Olurin (rtd) openly insulted the intelligence of the good people of Ogun State by saying he is equally on a mission to rebuild Ogun State. Is this not laughable?”

Amosun, who contested on the platform of the All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP) in 2007, asked residents of the state to ensure that their vote counts in the April elections.

Source: http://www.thisdayonline.com/
Foreign AffairsGhaddafi Orders Jet Fighters To Bombard Protesting Civilians In Libya by Justcash(op): 7:39pm On Feb 21, 2011
Ghaddaffi is a confirmed Mad man. He is slaughtering his people because he wants to hold unto power.

He sent Some Colonels to go and bomb the protesters. Some of the Colonels refused and went to Malt instead, where they were promptly arrested.
Mercenaries, made up of West Africans were hired to Shell the crowd of protesters.
It is a Massacre.
Ghaddaffi is believed to be on the run to Venezuela.

Is this the sort of thing that would have happened in the United States of Africa that Ghaddaffi proposed?

Looks like the sort of thing Nigerian Leaders can do.

What a Shame!

Source: Watching it on Al jazeera
PoliticsRe: Fola Adeola Is Nuhu Ribadu’s Running Mate by Justcash(m): 7:13pm On Feb 21, 2011
alj harem:
just cash you are very wrong,

first of all, lagos is juat a state out of 6 states in SW

secondly do you think the majority northerner and igbos or others in lagos will vote based on there choice or based on who majority of lagosians are voting for grin grin grin knowing how violent lagos can be during elections

thridly, NE will vote for a northerner whether Gej or not

NW has the stronges political might and will vote for a northerner

SS will be split into two bwcause of edo, ondo, awka ibom and cross river are not sure that GEJ will win,.,., believe it or not

SE  grin grin grin grin you know how individualistic our people are,.,.,.,. i bet GEJ will lose a state there

NC is not sure for GEJ as well

please my igbo brother, do not assume people think like you people,.,. at ther end of the day if GEJ loses there is nothing that would happen

look at it this way, when atiku contested agains obj, he lost because the whole north and SW and SE (not SS) voted for him

where was ACN IN 2003,,.,., WHERE WAS CPC IN 2003 did they invest this much agains OBJ in both 1999 and 2003,.,. answer NO


look lets not be relaxed to say GEJ has won because this might be the first election PDP will lose,.,. fact

and please never ever say jonathan has won NC AND NE because of the primaries,., because those are just delegated paid smiley

lets just pray it is going to be BB 2011
WELL SAID,.,
ACN's choice was a bad one. Ethnic politics aside, it is really a bad choice.
Politics is who gets what, when and how.
ACN should have played the political game as it is now, then implement change when they wrestle power.
FYI, I am not in doubt of the Integrity of the man that was chosen. Infact, I don't even know him. My Question is, why him? How many votes can he win out of 60 + million votes?
Well, I am quite disappointed that Tinubu and co are this politically confused. If they can't get a material that gat quality and popularity, why dint they go for any one with popularity for the time being, till they succeed in wrestling power?
Well, I care less though. I am just abit surprised.
PoliticsSanusi Says No To Imf: Questions their advice by Justcash(op): 6:34pm On Feb 21, 2011
Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN ) Governor Lamido Sanusi said on Monday he did not believe that the naira was over-valued and criticised advice from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) which last week recommended greater exchange rate flexibility. "We do not believe that the naira is over-valued ,  We do not believe that at a time when the oil price is going up and output is going up we should be losing the value of our currency," Sanusi told CNBC Africa television. 

"We also do not think that it makes sense, if the IMF is concerned about inflation, to ask a country that is import dependent to devalue its currency ,  So the advice given by the IMF, frankly, is not based on sound economic logic."

The IMF issued a statement last Thursday after its latest round of consultations with Nigeria, in which it noted foreign reserves had been falling and speculation against the naira could "become intense" if the depletion continued. Sanusi said the International Monetary Fund had gone ahead and published the advice without giving Nigeria's position.

Source: http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/index.php/news/76-hot-topic/18377-cbn-governor-says-naira-not-over-valued
PoliticsRe: Fola Adeola Is Nuhu Ribadu’s Running Mate by Justcash(m): 6:19pm On Feb 21, 2011
[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=608551.msg7774205#msg7774205 date=1298308466]Well it is the truth. And it not just a small number of non-Yorubas that are present in the South-West. We are talking millions of people.  grin[/quote]If they had to Yorubanize it, they should have used a political heavy weight .e.g. Tinubu, Fashola etc that can pull a considerable number of supporters.  It is simply a political blunder. Fashola would have been a killer choice.
PoliticsRe: Fola Adeola Is Nuhu Ribadu’s Running Mate by Justcash(m): 6:16pm On Feb 21, 2011
jason123:
How? By not selecting an igbo manhuh Who is the tribalist here? Moreover, what effect would that makehuh Igbos would not vote for him anyway since Ohaneze said so apart from the fact the "Azikwe" is the incumbent president. So how is that a political blunder?

The guy that was chosen is politically a "Non-entity". He is a nobody. To grab that post from PDP, they need someone that can win votes, not a ghost from nowhere. How will that guy complement Ribadu (Who is also politically naive)?
PoliticsRe: Fola Adeola Is Nuhu Ribadu’s Running Mate by Justcash(m): 6:09pm On Feb 21, 2011
ACN Committed a serious Political blunder, simple and short. It's not just about Tribalism now, it is about the nature of the game. They should have cooled down till they capture power before they start exposing their "Yorubaness" as some asserted here.
PoliticsRe: Fola Adeola Is Nuhu Ribadu’s Running Mate by Justcash(m): 6:01pm On Feb 21, 2011
dayokanu:
What is the number of registered voters in the SS and SE combined together? Then compare it with only the SW
How many registered voters in the SW are Yorubas?

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