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We all know the solution, but you keep decieving yourselves.

One Nigeria abi?  Then let the bloodbath continue.

Maybe when the trend catches up with all of you, you will know how Nigerian you are.

One Nigeria my A.SS!

Nonsense!

I will like you guys to ask yourselves this question:

What is the solution to this constant bloobath in the name of religion?

If you pretend that you don't know the solution, then I guess you possess a pitiable personality.

Stop decieving yourselves, ONE NIGERIA IS MORE FICTITIOUS THAN REAL.

The bloodbath will keep going on, and we will be looking at the already dead Federal government to salvage the situation. Maybe If you were in Jos and was attacked, you will understand how alien you are in your surpposed country.

As an Igbo man, Yes. As a Nigerian, Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! No way! x1billion

@Poster:

Keep waiting for the perfect man.

Don't give up.

Don't take anything less.

You will find him.

Maybe in the grave.

One often reaches his/her destiny from the route he/she took to avoid it.

N/B

Not a good advise 

tunku:
I would loathe to read through the ignorant dribble that many have undoubtedly posted regarding homosexuality and how it is destroying the fabric of society. This is pure and utter nonsense, Nobody chooses to be homosexual just as no one chooses to be black, white, or even straight. To compare it with bestiality is not only laughably dumb and not to mention a false analogy it is just plain scary to look into the mind of the so called defenders of heterosexuality. To persecute a minority of people so tiny on something arbitrary as sexuality is astounding. Next some will be saying that homosexuals can't procreate therefore threaten the entire human race. Step back from that logic and really inspect it. How can a homosexual couple threaten a species anymore so than the many more barren couples incapable of having children in the first place that undoubtedly outnumber the homosexual population of earth. Having said all that, I do forgive Africans in general of their astounding ignorance towards this issue. When you start talking about executing them it is then that you will have a problem with people like me.

I have no intention to insult you, but for real man you disgust me. You make me wanna throw up! I'm outta here!

Tippy Top:
Let me see how you react when your eldest son announces he's gay.
The Japs would fry your monkey azz if you kill him.

That's impossible. He (My unborn Son) will have a Nigerian (Igbo) blood flowing in him. He will naturally be attracted to members of the opposite sex. I see homosexuality as unnecessary and a crime against humanity. He will see it that way. As I love girls, he will. He won't be too frustrated to try having some emotional attarchment with a male partner. God will never allow that.

As for people like you that see nothing wrong with it, your children will see nothing wrong with it. You should be more worried.

Somebody say NO to Homosexuality?

It must not happen in my generation. Let it happen when my country is 1000,000 years old (If that generation will accept it).

I pray that no member of my lineage should embark on homosexyality and lesbianism. I will comback from the grave to maim that person.

I prefer them to carry out social vices than bang their own kind.

Too sad, My gay friends aint feeling complete. Their emotions are incomplete. Just urge and lust.

If you see it as a way of life, I pray that your Children become lesbians and homosexuals.

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=383007.msg5337037#msg5337037 date=1263772440]@ post

Ignorance and mental laziness is the problem my people, unfortuntely, too many folks are dying and the young ones are still being indoctrinated into this dangerous cultural-religious stupidity.

I don't believe that breaking this country into splinters will solve this problem though, but we might need to start the process of weeding out those who just won't use their mind all across the country. One day.[/quote]@Kilode?: My brother, breaking up is the answer! That way, anytime the hausa's feel like committing genocide, they will slaughter themselves. Any southerner that is affected in the process will cause a diplomatic row and subsequent suspension of their embassies in the south, so that no southerner will go there.
That way, if We (Southerners) are important to them, they will refrain from their animalistic attitude to have us among them as foriegn tourists or investors. They don't know our value because we exist in the same country with them.

SAY NO! TO LEGALISING HOMOSEXUALITY IN NIGERIA!!!!!!

While the number of unmarried Nigerian ladies is skyrocketing, Some men are seeking for ways to bang and marry themselves legally. God forbid bad thing!

It is acceptable abroad because most of them tolerate it, but the NIGERIAN culture does not permit it!

We should follow the pattern nature and culture has created for us. Forget all these stupid western influence!

I have alot of female gay friends. I understand them because most of them do it to satisfy their emotional needs which was created by the increasing lack of men in their societies.

Look at those guys working in the scorching heat. Imagine what they would do if they were presented with easier and better opportunities!!! This is real cheap labour wasting away. Those guys would have been better off working in factories and gaining basic skills to venture into more profitable entrepreneurial activities. But unfortunately, such investments are non-existent due to the negligence of the Nigerian FG.
All the government needs to do is to attract such business investments by creating an enabling environment,  thereby encouraging budding entrepreneurs and existing businesses to flow into Nigeria. That way,  jobs will be created and these hardworking youths can be gainfully employed and trained to acquire some basic skills that will make them more profitable than they are at present.   

You may scream at what those guys do at Night!

Hopeless poverty is a disease. Those that causes such deserve to be hanged. 

Dear Revolt, it is "IGBO" not "IBO". I understand that you may be fast on the keyboard. 

THE AMAKA:
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@revolt
learn how to spell your own ethnic group, rubbish! [/color]

Amaka, please try to pass the message politely. He'l pick it that way without grudges. He may have a genuine reason for spelling it that way without knowing.

yeswecan:
GOOD talk. i don't hate igbos ooooooooooo i beg

If you don't hate Igbos, then respect us and you will be respected. Respect is reciprocal. Hauling insults at a tribe under the guise of trying to feel lively is not a good idea. We are here to gain knowledge, not create enemies. I just had to reply to your comments because they were gradually turning from insults to hatred. If you feel bored, why not do something more interesting, than brew a media ethnic conflict? I just hope that is not your idea of having fun.

I hope to see better views from you. 

@Yeswecan

Let me tell you 5 important things:

1. As you know, Igbos don't depend on Oil. We depend on hardworking means to survive. That is why you rarely hear of any strife about the Oil in Igboland. Oil wealth is Alien to the Igbos. Most Igbos don't even know that the government give allocations to their states (it is rediculous but true). In Anambra alone, Tax from markets/businesses is very huge and can effectivelly sustain the state and another state for a long time.

2. There is oil in Igboland. In my state and the neighbouring state, Imo and Abia states, there is plenty of oil to take care of igboland. Yet oil seem so irrelevant because it is not quite as important as most people like you insinuate here.

3. There are very important Igbo tribes in the areas that you call Niger-delta. Rivers state, Delta state, Akwa ibom and Edo states have people from the Igbo tribe. The president of Ohaneze Ndiigbo is from Delta state. That shows you  that despite your statements, they recognise their roots. Those are the people We need in Biafra (Oil or no Oil). They are Igbo people. Anything that happens to them, will affect Igbos in general.

4. Igbos cannot and will never force anyone to join Biafra. Igbo will be better off without the Niger-deltans (especially the non-Igbo areas). The beauty of cultural homogenity cannot be over emphasised. The non-Igbo speaking Niger-deltans will be forgotten and will never be missed by Biafra if Nigeria breaks. Any of the Igbo speaking Areas in Niger-delta that feels that they want another country will not be forced to stay. that is the nature of an Igbo person.

5. Niger-delta should be more concerned about how to liberate themselves, than hating Igbos who have done nothing to them. It is sensless to develop a heavy grudge for someone that rarely feel your presence. All these Igbo this and Igbo that are unnecessary, because while you are doing that, your real enemies are despoiling and stealing the wealth you so boast of.

Leave the Igbos to be at peace. I can't understand your hatred for Igbos.

All these Yorubas and Hausas are under-estimating the capability of an Igbo man. May God help us to divide. All your cars, electronics, military wares, foriegn credit lines, Construction etc will be bought from Biafra. All your economies will be dependent on Biafra.

I am not predicting. IT IS A FACT. I am staring at it .

Nigeria is a big constraint!

sjeezy8:
igboland in delta state doesnt stretch to the sea ijaws urhobos and itsekiris are there.
Im sure you can work something about though. . . . probably not

Check Opobo in your map man.[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=381076.msg5322771#msg5322771 date=1263569923]Justcash
are you making a personal comment or a gener observation?[/quote]I made a general observation. I am telling you that even if Biafra is Landlocked, We will negotiate our way through the sea. I used myself to explain how an average igbo man will react to the landlocked issue if it ever arises. That is how Switzerland and other landlocked countries survive.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=381718.msg5322324#msg5322324 date=1263566722]I speak facts and proofs not illustration or imagination mr beaf[/quote]I put the Yorubas in the Shoes of the Igbos that were victims of the 1960s pre-Civil war slaughter in different parts of Nigeria, to make you understand the reason Why the Igbos had to fight. That was an illustration.

sjeezy8:
What is biafra if the ijaws efiks ogoni and co . . . dont want to join biafra? Its landlocked right! ok then simply said.

No big deal, just face the facts and stop living in la la land.

I know that some ND areas speak and claim to be Igbos. Like the Opobo areas. They are close to the Ocean.  
If they don't want to Join Biafra, We will negotiate our way through their ports to the international waters. No be Cash kill am? If I find it difficult to export my products, I will enter into the Niger-delta and invest heavily in any of the ports in Opobo, Calabar, Oron etc. They will sell it or concession them once they see too much of free money.

My point remains that being landlocked or not depends on the refusal of ND Igbos to Join Biafra. From all indications, most of them will join. They are all playing active parts in Ohaneze ndigbo, infact the current president is from Delta state.
Even if they don't want to  join, it will only be a mild constraint, not a major obstacle. There will always be a way.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=381076.msg5322372#msg5322372 date=1263567041]Delta igbo,calabar igbo,akwa ibom igbo,edo igbo,rivers igbo later you will see hausa igbo and yoruba igbo, fraudsters and impostors!!![/quote]You didn't need to exhibit your lack of knowledge and unwillingness to learn here. I am disappointed and ashamed that I even tried to debate with you. I am done with you.  

sjeezy8:
haha funny comments I know the igbos dont want to be landlocked but also its about the Oil.
If the igbos had good intention about biafra then they would leave the Crossriver,Akwaibom, maybe and rivers state.
The ijaws are complaining that the igbos have migrated to rivers state and imposed themselves on the ogoni and ijaws. (from what some say)
I dont ever hear any "we are all brothers" from calabars ijaws or efiks, ogonis, i only hear it from igbos maybe because of Oil or the fact that they are landlocked.
Abacha along with his boyboy ojuwku killed Ken saro wiwa, the same thing that fool complained the govt is doing to igbos, he did to the ogonis for being anti Biafra.
Ken Saro-Wiwa was no lover of Biafra- dont fool yourselves let the ND be on their own.

Who told you that Biafra will be landlocked?
Why the heck do you guys keep repeating that Igbos want the ND?!!!! For What?!!!! We have never depended on oil for God's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need a working Society, NOT OIL! Singapore doesn't have oil. Yet the country is one of the most developed countries in the World.
We have the IQ and people that can build Biafra into a first world country in a short time with massive financial and intellectual investments.
Stop this Niger-delta and Oil crap!

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=381076.msg5322185#msg5322185 date=1263565702]I used to think igbo and niger delta are the same back in my elementary school days until i got to know of the impersonation by the igbo laying claim to the niger delta because of their oil that was used to finance the civil war.[/b]for clarification,
checkout this link
[b]en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_delta?wasRedirected=true[/quote]@Bluetooth: Pls, Go and do a proper research man. Try to do a research on Biafra, Eastern Nigeria and Igbos. You have alot to learn.

Justcash:
Imagine what you are saying!
The War was never unnecessary! The East was pushed to the wall. We had to fight back. We aint cowards. I know[b] maybe [/b] Yorubas would have taken it in good fate if they were killed in their thousands just because a Coup was carried out by some military men made up of more yoruba officers, in which more top Northern and Eastern officers were killed than top yoruba officers.

Read it properly, that was an illustration. You ain't schooling no one man. 
For not understanding that it was an illustration, you are the one that needs to be schooled. 

@ The Amaka: Don't mind them. How on earth did this story make the front page?

Everybody is shouting oil this and oil that. There is growing less reliance on Oil. Especially for Vehicular and robotic needs. I have seen several electric cars already in Asia.  While the importance of other sources of energy than oil through thorough research is going on, NigerDeltans are beating their chests and strutting about Oil.

Get it Clear, I am Igbo, Most of my friends that are Igbos and are wealthy does not depend on Oil money. They depend on their business IQs.

Don't be surprised that If Nigeria divides, the so called Nigerdelta republic's oil will be bought and controlled by Biafrans through international trade and Investments in the sector. Many will laugh it off, but it is a fact. Check the history of Igbos.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=381718.msg5321602#msg5321602 date=1263560589]Awolowo didn't kiss the north a s s to achieve his progress, the issue was that great men are always open to aligned with even if they dont have ill-motive.Awolowo was relevant which made the north to look up to him just like the whole nigeria is looking up to obasanjo now on the yaradua issue.my main premise is tha the war was an unnecessary one and ojukwu should be held for it![/quote]Imagine what you are saying!
The War was never unnecessary! The East was pushed to the wall. We had to fight back. We aint cowards. I know maybe Yorubas would have taken it in good fate if they were killed in their thousands just because a Coup was carried out by some military men made up of more yoruba officers, in which more top Northern and Eastern officers were killed than top yoruba officers.
Right from 1960, Nigeria has been unstable till date. People with eyes were aware that the country called Nigeria was a waste of time.  It will be difficult/impossible  for Nigeria to have a stable political system that can permit development.  That was why the 1st coup d'tat was seen as having an ethnic undertone, when the reason for it was staring at their faces.  The country has been a sham from the beginning.  We need to break into smaller nations before we can thrive. Is it not glaring to you? When simple roads, electricity supply, water, Education etc cannot be kept in good conditions and there is alot of money in the system, does it not occure to you that there is a big vacuum somewhere?
Back to Awolowo.

He was imprisoned by the North to make him irrelevant in the political sphere. Awolowo was influential especially to Yorubas. His imprisonment gave the North ruled by uneducated and non-enlightened men an upper hand in Nigerian affairs. Was that not a big sign of what to expect in the future? He and his yoruba folks did not learn anything. That was lack of foresight.

As If that wasn't enough, he was released by the Biafran government. He went to the West and postrated like a coward (because there was really no other reason for sleeping with a common enemy) to gain relevance. That showed Gullibility and cowardice

He Went further to help the illiterate North to plot the downfall of his liberators. He suggested the most genocidal means to the North and his suggestions played a big role in the fall of Biafra. He further helped to ensure that Easterners were paid very little money as compensation for lost wealth and properties. That was a sign of Wickedness and greed

Posterity will judge him.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=381718.msg5321278#msg5321278 date=1263557226]Justcash
Lwkmd, ojukwu failed and ran away, hitler failed and committed suicide, who is the hero here and stop acting film here[/quote]Do not Compare Ojukwu, with hitler. They played different roles. If Ojukwu was hitler, Awolowo with other Yoruba people would have been slaughtered in the East and mid-west. He set Awolowo free to salvage the yoruba people. Awolowo went and opened his legs for the Northerners to bang while he moarned ecstatically. Who was the coward? Ojukwu or Awolowo?
Hitler had no strong friendly country to run to. If he had China as strong as it is now, He would have gone to china, and America and Co would have left him or tried to fight to get him.
You are talking as if committing suicide to avoid the enemy is not worse than getting away from the enemy unsceathed.
BTW Many of Hitler's generals desguised themselves and ran to other countries. Why?
Osama bin Laden is on the run and still very protected by Al quaeda, while his followers still blow themselves up.  Why?
Saddam ran into hiding and was caught, he didn't surrender. Why?
Idi amin ran into exile when Uganda fell. Why?
What about the hounduras president  that ran after the coup that overthrew him?
There are many other cases.
The question shouldn't be why did Ojukwu run? the question should be why did he risk his wealth and power to serve the Biafran course? The answer is Patriotism and the Will to salvage his people from the jaws of backwardness (We are seeing it now in Nigeria).
It was the likes of Awolowo that were selfish. Awolowo would have taken the Yoruba people to greater heights if he had ensured that they seceeded. He preferred the Greediness of leading Nigeria, than Oodua republic, which would have been smaller and very governable.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=381718.msg5320470#msg5320470 date=1263548734]I hear you justcash but why did he run away if he's not a c o w a r d.[/quote]@ Bluetooth: In the united states and most countries, the protection of the 1st citizen is a top priority in the face of calamity.  As depicted in most movies, presidents or heads of state are usually taken to safety if a country is falling, except the leader refuses.  Biafra's case was not different. Ojukwu (Our leader and 1st citizen was taken to safety as Biafra fell) The psychological impact is that the enemy will not feel totally satisfied.
The same will be done for Yar'adua and co if Nigeria falls in a war.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=381718.msg5320375#msg5320375 date=1263547662]What is the difference between ojukwu and hitler who both fought an unnecessary war;causing the death of many people due to selfish interest.ojukwu should have poisioned himself too if he's a good leader just like hitler did[/quote]You are very very funny and ignorant. He fought for a specific reason, which is to liberate the East from the Jihard thirsty, backward people of Northern Nigeria. Awolowo was too shortsighted to see what Ojukwu saw. The Ahiara declaration said it all. Currently, We (Nigerians as a whole) are suffering what he saw in 1969. He had enough wealth and power, what other selfish reason do you think he was fighting for?

Like I said , You are really funny and ignorant.

michelin89:
The Bible has never used the word obey so don't get it twisted. I am sorry if you think that being women means we are silly and we can't read the Bible for ourselves.

But I have a brain of my own and YOUR BIBLE HAS NEVER USED TO WORD OBEY!!!!

Hahahahahahaha

Obey no dey bible again . The Word "Obey" was used in several mordern editions of the Bible.

Didn't expect to see something like this.

bluespice:
you're new
i'll pardon your insolence
and i'm straight

Oh! I'm so Sorry. You just said it for the first time. I got the clue, but wanted you to say it so that I can be sure.

You just disappointed my lesbian friend here. Lol!

I didn't mean to insult you girl.
Yes, I am new to Nairaland, because it is becoming more popular in Asia.

bluespice:
refrain from using the word 'babe' when referring to me thanks.
You know what, i'll let you be. You keep swinging to both sides of this discussion the act itself is almost dizzying. i realised a while back that you would use the bible to support your views, so i might as well let you be. But remember you saying submission was the only guarantee to a 'happy' marriage?
why shouldn't the man submit to his wife?
i'm outta here no time for your antics

Sorry for the Use of "Babe" (I thought you were one)

However, a woman being submissive to the man is natural.  I'm so sorry, you cannot change that. If you were straight you'd be submissive. 

bluespice:
when you juxtapose your comments together you see why i'm ever so slightly pissed at you.
I have no problems submitting to anyone, if you read my first post on this thread, i believe i made that clear.
but your refering to women being made out of men, and hammering on submission coupled with some other ridiculous things you have said all night,
don't blame me for placing you in the same boat as rob pattison - using the bible and God words to suit your own argument.

Oh come off it babe. It is not meant to suit my argument. It is meant to justify my argument. I am saying the simple truth.
If the topic was "Men are better than Women" I'd prove that wrong. I am neither saying that a woman must always obey her husband (Especially when he is wrong) nor that a man should batter his wife because she is submissive.
I am just saying that it is natural for a woman to be submissive to her husband. A woman needs to be submissive (Recommended by the bible). It is another thing to be submissive to a fault (Most guys don't like this). It makes a woman timid. Being submissive and smart is it.
However, We are in a free World! You can do what you want. You can choose to be submissive to your man or not to be. If he surpports you, then you can keep dancing along. However, Most Men prefer submissive women due to the cordial co-existence, mutual understanding and unreserved love that comes with that.
I aint cut out for a Gender war! It is unnecessary. why would I want it, when for every woman that doesn't want to be submissive, 10 are waiting eagerly to be as submissive as the man wants (as long as they will marry them).

Oba234:
why would I feel bad about something that some man posted from somewhere across the world I rebuke the day that I decided to take nosense on this website to heart. Nairaland is hillarious to me. I refuse to believe many of you guys think like this.

I'm glad to know that you are not feeling bad. 

GL:
okay, i see. actually this submission controversy is worsened by our culture. i agree that natural family responsibilities should not be overlooked. culture is dynamic, yet we're holding on to aspects of ancient culture that are at odds with modern life.

Yeah, Most of Nigerian Ancient cultures surpported gender inequality. Most of that has really changed over the years due to modernisation. Most enlightened Nigerian guys now find it disgusting to treat their wives like furnitures (It is really disgusting). However, there are basic cultural roles that modernisation has not taken away. For example, it will still look strange for a wife to go and do the servicing of the cars, while the husband cooks at home. It is permitted in western countries, but very very out of place in Nigeria and most african countries. Basic House chores (Cooking, cleaning, washing etc) are naturally meant for the wife, while house repairs (Carpentry works, electrical repairs etc) are meant for the husband.
These are roles that are not meant to be thought in school, they are done with common sense.

bluespice:
will you shut your mouth with your hypocritical lies about being up for gender equality,
you're a sexist who uses the bible to defend his ways taking the word of God out of context
for real there should be a special place in hell for people like you, rob pattison and rush limbaugh

Wow! I hurt you so bad!!!!!!!  

What don't you want to believe?
That the bible said that a Woman Should be submissive? (The Islamic prescription is similar)
That a woman is made out of a Man?
That you need to be the helper, rather than the boss?
That God made a woman (Eve) out of the need to create a helping hand for Adam?
That you were made from a Man's rib?
That's what the bible told me o! The Bible didn't say that all these will ensure gender inequality. They are natural roles that God made.

You either take it or leave it, it is your choice dear. It's a free world. Do what you want. Afterall not all women deem it fit to get married (Like you want to do)
I still can't explain why you are pissed!