₦airaland Forum

In any well meaning society, with a pro-developmental political system, Fashola would become the president in a little while.

Why can't Fashola become the president of this God forsaken country come 2011.

What the heck is rotational presidency?

Why should we leave someone that has shown so much promise to languish in a political tumoil which was sparked by his surpposed god-father, who is the same person making him to act currupt?

While he may need to answer the curruption allegations against him, I must say that we need people like Fashola and Donald duke who has shown so much promise to lead this country to a new level.

Look at the planning, organisation and execution of the projects in Lagos state.

The fact that people like Fashola cannot get a chance at the presidency makes me wish that Nigeria should divide!

When I shout let's divide Nigeria, myopic minds think that it is because I am Igbo. It is far beyond that.

This cesspit called Nigeria should divide!

You guys are avoiding the main issue.

The main issue is that we are not one! These Hausa/Fulani people are just not meant to be same with middlebelters.

These killings will not stop untill we divide or change the politcal system and structure of Nigeria.

Wait untill they enter the West through Kwara.

For sure, they can't infilterate the East. They will meet their waterloo there.

The earlier we do the right thing, the better.

This is just the beginning. Many people chanting "One Nigeria" will soon realise how much they are strangers and enemies in their so called country.

Believe me, these blood thirsty fulanis can Attack and slaughter millions in Lagos and Ogun, and nothing will happen because alot of cowards would prefer to worship them than fight back! When you talk to the cowards, they will say that they are using common sense! I laugh in Fulani!

If you are depending on OPC, stop wasting your time. Those guys no get liver to retaliate against Fulanis wey sabi nothing but to train and slaughter cattles!

OPC Ko JTF ni!

The North will accept it peacefully If;

1.  The Middlebelt can go for a break up from the core north too (Which will be the case).
2. If the Yorubas agree to go
3. If Niger-deltans agree to go.
4. If the Igbos agree to go.

This will cripple the core North. It will be a suicide mission for them to want to fight against other parts. The North will want to show that it got pride too by choosing the same path.

Nigeria is a country that is naturally meant to be successful. This is due to the abundance of human, intellectual and natural resources. When one looks at the possibility of utilising our huge domestic consumption ability, adequate intellectual base both home and abroad, abundant human resources, diverse natural resources to make Nigeria relevant not only in Africa, but in the World, it becomes pertinent to ask what is wrong with Nigeria.
Nigeria is a country that has a national question that can be easily answered, yet is over-looked because of a strange struggle to keep the country as one. How united can a country be when Ethno-religiouse crisis is unavoidable? When nationals of a country takes offence eachtime their fellow nationals comes to live with them? When Nigerians can slaughter themselves with so much will and happiness to prove a point? What is the use of being a Nigerian when you are scared of going to other parts of the country to avoid being slaughtered.
It is important that We understand that Unity is not by force! We cannot be one if it is not natural that we are one.
Seun seem very enthusiastic in his fight to keep Nigeria one. He mentions "peace" at every point and tries to justify why Nigeria needs to be one. However, I have noticed that he has always been on the losing end. He shouts "peace and Unity!", yet Nigerian Women and children are brutally murdered in villages across the country by Nigerians! What sort of peace and Unity is that? He stands and condemns division yet Nigerians find it hard to accept a permanent residence of Nigerians from other ethnic groups in their abode! Seun went to the extent of manupulating a thread to try to decieve Nigerians into taking the cowardly path that he has decided to follow. What is the point of Shouting that it will be well when for over 40 yrs it has never been well for once?
Change comes in different forms. First a peaceful means is chosen, then when it fails a violent means is used. It happened in France.  Nigeria does not need a simple Change.  She needs a revolution. You cannot ensure that type of change without deaths! It is clear that Nigerians cannot come together in a revolution to ensure Change. ethnic bias and sabotage will be the order of the day. History has shown us that. So it is important for every ethnic group to seek for a way to salvage themselves from the shackles of the mistake called Nigeria. Violently or Peacefully.
Seun is scared of fighting and dying for a change that can strengthen Nigeria's unity. He prefers to live in Nigeria as it is now. The backwardness of Nigeria is not a problem to him. He is scared of the dissolution of Nigeria! At one point he said that "Let the division of Nigeria not be by our (Nigerians) hands" The question is who will do it for us?
It has been proven that it is easy for a more homogeneous group to exist peacefully and in brotherhood, which is a pre-requisite for a needed development to take place. You cannot tell me that Alao Akala can raise his head in an Oduduwa republic, when the region will be struggling to develop and meet up with other regions in the world. I know very well that in a Biafra, people like Chris Ube will hide in shame, If not given a jungle justice treatment, because they will be overshadowed by the wishes of the people. The Middle belters will not be slaughterd like animals when they are sovereign from the North. North will live in peace and With their much valued Sharia system without having to impose it on other people. Now, what is Seun's point?

Seun is a model of the typical problem with Nigeria. The abuse of power, the preference of personal profitability over national progression, the urge to become dictatorial, the utter negligence of the views of the majority, Unprofessionalism in actions,  the urge to swallow rubbish due to cowardice etc.

We need to adopt a more stringent and realistic approach to the events in Nigeria, than the type of Seun's approach.

We need national dialogue, and peaceful resolution of National issues. That has failed because the idiots has remained adamant.
We need a revolution. It is not possible, because many Nigerians are cowards like Seun. The Ethno-religious disunity has also made it impossible.
We need a separation to allow the different nationalities to chart their paths towards development. That is the only viable option.

Like IBB, OBJ, ABACHA etc, I expect Seun to be intolerant and unprofessional enough to delete or Lock down this thread.

May God save us from people Like Him.

Follow these steps;

1. Tell her that you'll do it[b] because you don't want to lose your job.[/b] Record the audio of the deal in your phone, and hire a private investigator after filing a report at a  police station that is abit far away. Tell your friends and trusted co-workers.

2. Take a picture of her unclothed after tactically undressing her and record the conversations with your phone on the day that you promised to do it with her (Don't have sex with her except you need to in order to obtain enough evidence)). Draw out implicating statements. Make one of your trusted co-worker and friends that is aware to monitor two of you on that day with the private investigator. Let them record your arrival with her.

3. Be a Man, Threaten her on the spot that you'll take the pictures to the newspapers (It'll make a good news) and expose the fact that you have filed a police report.

4.  Demand for a 20million naira ransome. Do it in her presence, not over a phone or internet.

5. If she doesn't give you the money, sue her to court,  call the police and show the pictures, then take the pictures to the Newspaper houses.

6. If She pays, resign and get out of town for a long time. Invest the money in better stuffs.

If she can bite your buttocks without minding your excreter, bite her head without minding her brain.

Beaf:
Ok, you brave souls. Dance on the graves of dead children.

[b]Beaf mhen, No one is happy about the death of these Women and Children. It is quite gory and disheartening. The spate of  recurrence of this violence in Jos is strange and not normal. Didn't you see the same number of Children murdered in a Muslim village few weeks back?
It is not only strange that two brothers from the same region are murdering themselves with so much hatred, it is an issue to ponder about.

However, I am very sure that the dimension of this violence is beyond human control. It has taken a spiritual dimension. I mean these loss of lives are not in tens, but in hundreds and they are carried out in very sensless manners. The killings bear a resemblance of the Biafran war Massacre (Can you deny that?) And it was carried out by a United force led by people that are butchering themselves now.

With the Similarity of this genocide to the massacre in Biafra, and the fact that this is occuring in the home state of the Man who ordered the Biafran massacre, leaves alot of questions unanswered.[/b]

edoyad:
@beaf nice speech but the middle belt will exist as It's own entity if need be. There's no need for the country to break in few parts, why doesn't every nation discover itself ?
@amarilo you truly are ignorant and laughable. Do you know how many igbos presently live and operate businesses in states with hausa majority ? Do you know how many of your brothers and sisters live in Kano and Katsina as we speak ? If There's a slaughtering before a split i assure you the igbos will suffer the most loss with hausa people.

Edoyad, Please give me 1 reason why Nigeria needs to remain as one?

Why do you think that there must be War/massacre if Nigeria is dividing?[i][/i]

Are there no Northerners in the East?

Do you think Igbos will fold their hands again and die in a naive manner without fighting back in the North?

Do you Sincerely think that  a few Igbos that are determined to fightback till death will not cause a huge casualty to the Northerners?

No one owns violence

mubaraqqq:
For all those that keeps screaming divide Nigeria. First of all , someone explain to me how it will make the east better?  Will it suddenly make the corrupt governors fix their roads, provide jobs? Is that the magic bullet to solve the East's problem. Please tell me what will be different?
Secondly, have you looked at the map of Nigeria, we are all surrounded by Hausa states ( which was done on purpose). So how exactly will you divide Nigeria?

How are we surrounded by Hausa states? Who are the We?
About development when the East breaks out , let the East break out first before you can judge. I prefer to be killed by a person I know and have offended, than by a foreigner that simply wants to show that he owns me by killing me when I least expect, for no reason.

Staying together is not an option.

Disintegration is the Answer.

Anyone that is dying to have Nigeria as one is definitely going to recieve some strokes of cane from the devil in hell for committing suicide.

Isn't it clear enough that we are not one! Why all these statements to prove that Nigeria needs to remain one? Why must we be one?

[b]That was a good article by bluetooth.

Zik has never been my hero. I hate him for struggling to keep Nigeria one.

However, we must not overlook the fact that he was more nationalistic in his political orientation than Awolowo and Bello.

While Bello and Awolowo agreed that Nigeria was a mistake, they were more ethno-religious leaders than nationalistic leaders.

Yes zik was a political harlot, but he played the real meaning of politics: who gets what, how and when,  in a nationalistic way.

If Awolowo and Bello were like Zik in terms of politics, the ethno-religiouse Pluralism that became a plaque in Nigeria's unity would have been at a minimal.

I see the award as a recognition of his nationalistic outlook in politics.

In the real sense, Nigerian leaders in the 1960s werent surpposed to be ethno-religiously biased in their leadership style. This is the reason why Nigerians are still grappling in our aim for development. It is the reason why this country will remain a farce and needs to dis-integrate or be restructured politically. [/b]

JESUS OF NAZARETH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mhen, this becomerich guy sef!

The guy sabi book in a very kolo way.

No! We cannot develop as Nigeria!!!

bombay:
Justcash you and your biafra belives can you move on any little thing biafra biafra what the hell bleep you and your bleeping biafra bullshit. And i hope you hang yourself bleeping gay biafra poo.

An expected reply from a half baked, retarded, dull brained non-entity, with a very disgraceful command of English.

I have a feeling that you may be new, so I replied to let you know that I don't normally reply to illiterates like you.

Look for a suitable opponent, I am way above your level.

TrainedM:
Dude, Lagos is a yoruba state although it has a muti ethnic feeling to it. There is an Oba of Lagos who will always be yoruba. Obas of several communities will always be yoruba. The Governor of Lagos in any Democracy will always be yoruba. The slogan of Lagos EKO O NI BAJE is Yoruba. The state radio 107.5 fm tiwa n tiwa is a Yoruba Station. And even the Lagos Television LTv runs mostly yoruba programs and movies and so on and so forth.

However i believe the success of what Lagos is today is the contribution of the diverse ethnic fgroups that have contributed to its growth and success.However state of origin is different from state of birth. 

The population of Lagos is crazy simply because the Land mass of Lagos is small and i think Lagos is the smallest state in Nigeria in terms of Land mass .I think there is more of water than land in lagos which is why Parts of Ajah and Lekki had to be sand-filed. Population Density is very high.

As for you being a Tax payer and wanting to know how your money is being spent, wait for the national  assembly to pass the Freedom of Information Bill

Call me what you want i am first a Yoruba man then a Nigerian. My family Lineage is of Durosinmi etti and dates back to pre colonial Lagos. My fore fathers became Nigerians i think around 1914 or so when the name Nigerian was coined.

All these been said Lagos is for everyone but there are some Lines non yorubas cannot cross in Lagos because historically it is a yoruba state and if the south west ever ceceedes it will be the capital of ODUDUWA REPUBLIC.

Eko o ni Baje o.

LAGOS STATE IS A NIGERIAN STATE AND NOT A YORUBA STATE

A TAX PAYER IN LAGOS HAS THE RIGHT TO QUESTION HOW HIS MONEY IS BEING USED NOT MINDING HIS ETHNIC GROUP.

FASHOLA NEEDS TO ANSWER ALL THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HIM.

THERE IS ALSO AN EZE NDI IGBO IN LAGOS STATE

AS FOR ODUDUWA REPUBLIC, IF THE YORUBAS WANTS TO OWN LAGOS STATE, THEY SHOULD BE ADVOCATING FOR THE REPUBLIC.

IT STILL BAFFLES ME WHAT MADE YORUBAS TO FIGHT SO MUCH FOR NIGERIA'S UNITY WHEN THEY ARE NOT READY TO RECOGNISE THEIR LANDS AS NIGERIAN LANDS.

An0nimus:
If u no like am,comot na!!!

The guy made it clear that he doesn't want to go out of Lagos. He is criticising Fashola. That is not unlawful, afterall as he said, he pays his tax to Lagos state.

[b]LAGOS IS A STATE IN NIGERIA, EVERY NIGERIAN HAS THE RIGHT TO STAY AND DIE IN ANY STATE
EVERY NIGERIAN HAS THE RIGHT TO CRITICIZE ANY GOVERNOR IN NIGERIA AND SUE HIM/HER TO COURT IF HE IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE STATE'S INCOME
LAGOS IS NOT FOR THE YORUBAS, IT IS NOT A YORUBA STATE, IT IS A NIGERIAN STATE
MOST INFRASTRUCTURES E.G INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, SEAPORTS ETC THAT MAKES LAGOS ATTRACTIVE FOR BUSINESSMEN WERE BUILT WITH MONEY GOTTEN FROM NIGERIA AS A WHOLE
THE POPULATION IN LAGOS IS AN ADVANTAGE NOT A CURSE (DOMESTIC CONSUMPTION). CROSS RIVER STATE WILL FEEL BLESSED TO HAVE SUCH A POPULATION TO OIL TINAPA AND OBUDU CATTLE RANCH.
LAGOS WAS A FORMER FEDERAL CAPITAL TERRIRTORY, THAT GIVES IT A MORE NATIONAL THAN ETHNIC OUTLOOK
MANY TAXPAYERS IN LAGOS ARE NOT YORUBAS, THEY ARE FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY
MANY LAGOSIANS (BORN AND BRED) ARE NOT YORUBAS
THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT FASHOLA IS DOING WHAT ANY SANE GOVERNOR SHOULD DO
WHAT FASHOLA IS DOING IS NOT EXTRAORDINARY, THEY ARE THE NORMAL THINGS THAT A GOVERNOR SHOULD DO
THE ANTI-DEVELOPMENTAL ATTITUDE OF MOST OF NIGERIAN GOVERNORS HAS MADE WHAT FASHOLA IS DOING TO LOOK EXTRAORDINARY
THAT FASHOLA IS FOCUSED AND DEVELOPMENTAL DOES NOT MEAN THAT HE SHOULD NOT BE ACCOUNTABLE
THE FACT THAT HE DID NOT RESPOND TO MOST CURRUPTION ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HIM IS REALLY QUESTIONABLE
THE POSTER IS A TAX PAYING LAGOSIAN, SO DESERVES TO KNOW HOW THE STATE'S MONEY IS BEING SPENT.
THE YORUBAS SURPPORTED A UNITED NIGERIA, SO THEY MUST TOLERATE ANYTHING THAT COMES WITH A UNITED NIGERIA
THE YORUBAS SHOULD STOP ASKING THE EASTERNERS AND NIGERINS FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY TO LEAVE LAGOS, BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY PLAYED A BIG ROLE IN STOPPING THE EAST FROM CAUSING A DIVISION
AS FAR AS FASHOLA IS CONCERNED HE NEEDS TO ANSWER THE ALLEGATIONS AND CLEAR HIMSELF OF ANY WRONG DOING.

WE ALL WANT A UNITED NIGERIA, WE MUST UNDERSTAND AND DEVELOP ATTITUDES THAT WILL HELP ONE NIGERIA TO FLOURISH. IF NOT, "TO YOUR TENTS O'ISREAL."

THOSE ARE THE TRUTHS OF THE ISSUE AT HAND.[/b]

Myopic people. This is the time that you are sensing the need to breakaway abi? this one na small.

The spirit of the Children and Women of Biafra that were killed and raped are finally catching up with all their traitors that mde it easy for the Nigerian military to maim them.

God forbid, but Jonathan may be killed in a military coup and the brute idiots that you surpported will over-run all of you. Rumu-my A.S.S

May God help and forgive all of you.

It is overdue.

NAS: Pyrates is a noble organisation. You no need to use specs to know.

Nobility does not mean weakness.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=403413.msg5574173#msg5574173 date=1267002650]please ccount out south west!![/quote]Bluetooth:
Why Should I count out the Southwest? Does the southwest not bow to the north in Nigeria's political game? Where is South west politically classifed?

Abeg give me space make I hear word!

I wish the Southwest was indeed classifed as Western Nigeria (Instead of Southern) in the Political arrangement of Nigeria.

Count the Southwest out Ko! Cant the South west in Ni! As If you had a choice! Mmmcheeeeeeeew!

I keep wondering why Nigerians from the southern part of Nigeria comprising of the East, West and South are so politically inferior to the North

From all indications, the North should be a region of the farce called Nigeria, why is it that the political arrangement divided the country into the North and the South (West, East and South)?

Why must the North struggle to rule Nigeria, after having led the country for many years, without any positive development?

Why can't we just produce good leaders irrespective of ethno-religious backgrounds?

Why is the South so speechless and frightened when the North makes political pronouncements?

Why is it that the region with the least education, least resources and least development has the upper hand in the political leadership of Nigeria?

Why is the politics of Nigeria so anti-developmental?

Why must the North feel threatened because a Southerner is an "Acting" president?

Why is it compulsory for a northerner that is not stimulating development to remain in power?

Is Leadership the birthright of the North?

We are not the only culturally diverse nation in the world, yet our own diversity seem unique and allergic to development.

Please can any of you mention any Northern politician that has political ideas like Fashola and Duke?

Nigeria is a big jock!

Nigeria is a big joke! MMMchheeeeeeeeeew! Nonsense!