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GHOSTS IN SOLID FORM
The title of the first book is what I wrote above and as the name implies, that is what is actually all about and don't immediately say is not possible, read the book and make up your mind.
This involves the extraction of ectoplasm largely from the medium and small amount from the sitter's body. This ectoplasm is then used by a spirit that wants to materialize to build a physical body which is just like ours thus can be seen and touched. The materialization and dematerialization of the spirits are observed by the sitters.
ON THE EDGE OF ETHERIC
This second book is also about materializing but in this case, a full physical body is not materialized only vocal cord which helps the spirit that wants to communicate able to vibrate our atmosphere thereby producing sound which is audible to us. The same ectoplasm is used to build the vocal cord, this phenomenon is called DIRECT OR INDEPENDENT VOICE
THE MEDIUMSHIP OF JACK WEBBER
The third book is based on the review of strange phenomenon that happened under the mediumship of jack webber who was a medium. It basically comprises the MATERIALIZATION and direct voice phenomenon and others like levitation of the medium from his chair, removal of his cloth, apportation etc. It also includes pictures of ectoplasm, the vocal organ materialized, apports etc

I don't know why you guys are asking for summary or review, you asked for proof is given, now you want the summary of the proof. Are you not ashamed of yourselves? When you know you can't examine the proof if given why do you always ask for one?
Well because am lenient, I will just give you an idea of what kind of experiment it's all about BUT you can't understand how it is done, only when you read the book. Once again PICK THE BOOKS AND READ THEM
Now the books basically give the evidence of afterlife by a phenomenon called MATERIALIZATION. This means the ability of the spirits to cloth themselves with physical materials all around which then makes them visible to the physical eyes and also touchable. This is done by extracting a substance largely from the medium's body called ECTOPLASM. You can Google image search for the word ectoplasm to know how it looks like. Once again read the book don't just laugh at this even without reading the books yet.

The spirit guides are also known by others as the guardian angels, they help to guide us in making the right decisions in life. The greater part of what we know as our conscience is made up of the spirit guides putting thoughts in our mind for direction.
But what are this spirit guides? Are they actually angels? The truth is spirit guides are not angels but spirits that are developed enough at least to some level to guide still incarnate spirit on earth (human).
The spirit guides are not suppose to be looked at as some very evolved or developed spirit guiding men on earth but they are develop than the spirit they guide but not like HIGHLY developed than the spirit they guide. The reason for this is for communication to be possible between the two. Imagine a professor asked to teach a primary school children, it should be easily observed that no matter what the professor is saying he wouldn't be communicating at all, just a waste of time. This principle also applies here, for effective communication to exist, the spirit guide shouldn't be too develop than the human he guides.
This is way spirit guide can NEVER be angel, the distance is just too much. This kind of error also makes some people to think that their guide is even an archangel like Gabriel or even God Himself, why hire a professor to teach what a primary school teacher can teach effectively? The law now is, the student must not know more or develop than the teacher, this means that as you develop so will your spirit guide be changed to meet your needs. So basically, if you're a kind of person that thrives to develop himself then you can't possibly have one spirit guide throughout your life. So if you want a very advanced spirit guide then develop yourself to meet the standard because it can never happen any other way.
Now, where do these spirit guides come from? To teach effectively you must understand the nature and disposition of your student, and who could fit this criteria than a fellow human? And this is also the reason why an angel can not be a man's guide because they don't know what it feels like to live on earth just like a rich person can not know what it feels like to be poor, the best he can do is speculates.
So yes, spirit guides are "dead" humans who maybe has made some mistakes and now here to guide the still incarnate spirit not to make the same. And yes your grandfather or mother could be your spirit guide, even friends and relatives if they are fit for it.
It's important to know your spirit guide is not infringing on your freewill, the best he can do is put the right thought in your mind as your conscience, you make the final decision so the consequence is yours and yours alone.

@Johnydon22
You were the one that actually motivated me to create this thread because in our last conversation you keep asking for proof. I thought you're even going to be the first to comment here, nevertheless, this is the proof you asked for it's now left to you to check it out.
NOTE: The books are not about any explanation to justify the truth of afterlife, it's from a materialistic point of view with material evidence just what will appeal to your materialistic world view.

Hello Atheists! You belief is about to be shattered.
https://www.nairaland.com/2173445/afterlife-proof-atheists-whoever-cares

An2elect2:
This is how people speak when they are without divine authority. Presumptuous.

Your signature says it all, and if I may ask where can one find the word of God.

blueyedgeek:
hehehehe, and what do you call the God that says there is no other God but me? A greater fool I tell you.

You atheists always ask for proof and there you have it. Why are you now lazy to check it out? or are you afraid to have your precious belief shattered?

@davien
You haven't read the book because if you had you wouldn't say the proof of the afterlife can not be demonstrated. That is actually the theme of the books, hard core materialistic demonstration of afterlife beyond any doubt, so put off your assumption cap and step out of this your belief that it can't be demonstrated.
Just go ahead and read the books then see whether it can be demonstrated or not.

KingEbukasBlog:
OP , dont mind the atheist ,.., God exists outa space and time . He made them ..atheists haven't wondered how outer space that created the medium for their big bang came about ?

If the big bang is real , what about the universe , how was the universe itself , other planets , the comets that brought water formed ? Where do water , gases like oxygen, nitrogen come from ? What was the reason the sun was formed . the sun is before the earth as in formation , then the big bang , then earth ... . all na mistake ... Haha checkmate atheist !

But wait , I need answers oo

logicmind , seun , davien , johnydon22 , blueyedgeek

Abio
Make sure u read the ebooks also o

blueyedgeek:
Learnt a new word from your post. One can't be a disgrace to 'atheisthood' though, I don't answer to a 'spiritual head' and I have nothing to prove.

Haha!
No use the word outside don't say I no tell you o

timonski:
So justlove, can yhu give us a detailed explanation on how you observe the spiritual plane?

https://www.nairaland.com/2173445/afterlife-proof-atheists-whoever-cares
Check that if you think you're brave enough

blueyedgeek:
Proof:
1. evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a
fact or the truth of a statement.

Nowhere in that definition does it say reading an ebook written by fear mongers.

Shakes head
You're a disgrace to atheisthood

ooman:
Do you believe in fairies? What about Santa?

Just download and read

The proof is right in your hands now if you're lazy to check them out then it shows you're not really looking for proof you're just making excuses. Even if you don't have time yet download and keep till when you're have time. Remember to give your friends too, you wouldn't want them to miss this.

Download and READ these ebooks
https://www.ghostcircle.com/free_book/gambier-bolton-ghosts-solid-form/

https://www.ghostcircle.com/free_book/arthur-findlay-edge-etheric/

https://www.ghostcircle.com/free_book/harry-edwards-mediumship-jack-webber/

Try to read these ebooks, they're not religious books so don't assume what they contain, they might just be the proof of afterlife you so need.
But if you don't read them you can't know what they contain and just might be missing out.
So the deal is TRY to read the 3 books cover to cover, I know you're busy but just try. If after reading the 3 books you still maintain your stance then....
It will be nice to drop comments on the books

@Johny
When you have time download and read this https://www.ghostcircle.com/free_book/gambier-bolton-ghosts-solid-form/

Most people think omniscience is the ability of God to know 100% what every choice we will make yet they also claim we have free will, but if God can know 100% what your choice will be then it can't be called freewill again because you can not change it, it must come to pass. But this is an error!
The omniscience of God lies in is ability to know 100% what the CONSEQUENCES of your choice will be not necessarily knowing what your choice will be. To explain further, we've many alternatives and choices to make in life, now the omniscience of God permits Him to know all of the alternatives and the consequences of each one but God don't know 100% already what your what choice you will choose but no matter what choice you choose He knows the consequences already.
I keep repeating 100% because it's possible for God to guess or predict what your choice will be based on your pass choices just like we humans can also guess or predict what the choice of the other is going to be and be correct, it is just prediction and can change. But since God can guess your choice more perfectly than we can possibly do, we then think God knows already what our choice will be.
When you think of God omniscience in this sense then it becomes very complex because he has to know the consequences of every choice even the ones you are not going to choose whereas if He knows what you will choose already He only needs to know the consequences of this single choice.
This is the reason why many prophesies don't come to pass because every prophesy is a prediction of the future manifestation of which depends completely on human freewill, so if anybody makes a prophesy but didn't later come to pass, it doesn't mean he is a liar just that the human concerned with it's manifestation choose other choice.
Many Christians belief Jesus coming into earth has been known and sealed even before man sin because God knows they will sin, but this is false, it just that God knows every possible thing that is LIKELY to happen so already prepared for it, so nothing ever caught Him unaware.
NOTE: I don't believe in Jesus death to save humanity but His words.

johnydon22:
What u dont understand is that at a point we all believed it..
Now reason outside that box and see it is implausible, open you own mind and think for yourself.. They simply are no evidence for it...its just in your head.

Now let us leave it like that.. Continue believing all you want bro, while i continue waiting for you people who claim to give me the proof.. Am done bro... lets just leave it cus we will continue going in circles.

Happy sunday boss

Sighs, just what I wanted
This is whyI often hesitate to reply to people because each one is convinced of his belief but if you don't reply people will be quick to conclude that you ran away or you don't understand what you write about.
All the same, it's nice talking to you though futile
Have a pleasant day.

johnydon22:
I keep getting it and keep telling you their is no proof or empirical evidence for this your spirit spirit spirit you keep yapping... Just provide me with a tangible proof..

You assertion that man is spirit in a body have just betrayed all your argument cus thats just what you believe in...

Remember you said spirits have form and weight (matter) Am still wondering how you hope to reconcile that with the concept of spirit sense only can perceive spirit... If spirit have form and weight then how can you now say it wont take the human sense to percieve..

The thing is you're completely sure their is no way spirit can exist and no matter what anybody say you will always find a way of explaining it to suit this believe because your mind is made up thereby closed, and with this state of mind you can't make any meaningful investigation on the matter.
Am not asking you to just believe in spirit just saying make room for the POSSIBILITY OF THEIR EXISTENCE, have the thought what if your wrong, with that state of mind then you're not completely closed minded but now open mined to investigate.
I know your expectation of what the prove should be will be ridiculous, maybe you expect God to match into your living room and present himself or something like that.
So now every thing that has form and weight should be matter?

johnydon22:
I still find it funny... Spirit senses? seriously?
Spirit senses in a human... Ok when that your spirit sense, sense a spirit or should i say perceives a spirit how then do you get to know since we know we humans only get to know things as a result of our brains... their nothing we know now that is independent of our brain (intellect) If it has nothing to do with brain then it has nothing to do with humans which means humans cant comprahend it.

I still remember you describing spirits as something that has form and weight (matter) please sir why do we need a spirit sense (whatever that shiit means) to perceive matter?

Am wondering if ignorance have another name...

You're.missing the definition of what human is, human is a spirit in a physical body, man is not the body it is only using the physical body to experience the physical matter.
By the explanation above am sure you will now understand that man don't need spirit senses to perceive physical things that is the work of the physical senses if the spirit senses can perceive perfectly the physical things then he doesn't need the physical body in the first place, I only said we use SPIRIT SENSES TO PERCEIVE SPIRITUAL THINGS, this is what I keep saying yet you keep missing it.

johnydon22:
Now check out this desperate attempt to prove a point...

Near deaths are still under study and is said to be a mental awareness or psychological illusion of such patients due to the impending death.

Near death still doesnt mean dead... thats just it..

Now about mediums, have you seen/visited one before?

Prove? am not trying to prove anything here, just stating my views.
Haven't you heard of near death experiences that tells about what surgeons and even relatives are doing during which is perfectly correct?
I haven't seen(in real life) or visited any medium before.

johnydon22:
Hahahahahahahahahaha and this sums it all up... Am done with you..

This is still the same you that said that the spirit cannot be perceived with human intellect and then here you utter this @bolded

If spirits have form, and have weight then its matter and the last i checked it only takes the human intellect to perceive matter...(why is it we still cannot boast of any evidence for something that substantial.... hmmmm i wonder)

So sir... Go get your facts straight and stop the contradictions..

Here ends our discussion bro..

You just showed your complete ignorance and still laughing at it!!!
If you read my posts right you will realize I keep say "spirit body senses" just as your physical body as it senses to be cognizant of it environment so does your spirit body has it own senses to experience it environment. You can not use the senses of your physical body to sense spiritual things, spirit body senses are used. Do you expect to see a spirit with your eyes? You're so ridiculous, people whose spirit eyes are open sees spirit things and are very substantial, so stop laughing at your ignorance

johnydon22:
Near death accounts you say?

Hallucinations is your proof?

why not give me real death accounts and not near...

btw near death doesnt mean dead..

Hallucination!!!
When a person in near death experience tells of what he observed out of the body and later confirmed to be so, you call that hallucination and I haven't heard of any hallucination which can be confirmed in reality.
You will remember I said "let first start with near death accounts" this means their is actual account of death experience..Have you ever heard of mediums?

johnydon22:
Lolzzz and now take a look at this? The human brain is responsible for our perception and this your belief in spirit is still a product of your brain (Imagination )

You agree they are no evidences or proof for spirits or afterlife yet you are convinced that they exist, are you not kidding your own intellect?

Am still laughing at the notion that one cannot comprehend the spiritual using only human intellect but you are still trying to give me a concept of the spiritual even tho you are yet a human. I wonder how you do it (spiritual brain that controls ur spiritual intellect?) hehehehe am sure you know.you dont have that.

Why should you ask me to blindly believe what their are no proof what so ever? I think you should first get your facts straight..

You're quick to say there is no afterlife, when there are proves it exist. For a start read about near death accounts

onetrack:
Stopped reading right there.

So you belief God punish people for not believing in Him?

MizMyColi:
Well in that case, I reckon that there is twice as much we don't know than we do know.
For things I can neither prove to self nor others, I keep an open mind.

Last I checked, impossibility is still Nothing.

That is the point OPEN MIND. Even the physical word we can see and touch we can not say emphatically that we have seen and know it all. If microscope wasn't developed who will have known anything about microorganisms even though they're something physical.

johnydon22:
And whats ur proof for believing in life after death?

Ask urself assuming their is life after death in what extension will you exist,
in this planet earth our extension is the human body, we have form.
eyes, nose, mouth tongue, hands, feet, brain, lungs and all this are possible
because we have flesh then if their is a conscious soul that exists after
death in what state? in what form or extension will it exist since we all know
all the things i mentioned above are all human traits.??

So when you hear the word spirit what comes to your mind is something not substantial, something just floating around with no form and shape? Spirits are VERY much substantial, they have form, you can hold them, they have weight. So I answered your question already, we exist after death in spirit body which is very substantial just like your physical body is right now to the exist that some people don't even realised they are dead because is just as substantial as your physical body is right now.

johnydon22:
and if you read my post i said there are no proof,
which means all i need is just a tangible proof
and i will know...
So you that have no proof but still is convinced are you not the one that is
becoming dogmatic?

This is where atheists err, they want to understand God using the intellect. The intellect can only know of that is material, it is a product of the brain with is physical thus can only know what is physical. But God is of a different constituent entirely, it will always remain a mystery for the intellect.
God's existence can only be sensed by the spirit and your belief that nothing spiritual exist blocked your spirit senses. And this is where we're different, with my belief in spirit then my senses are not hindered to sense and this is while I always advice to have at least a thought of what if spirit exist, this simple thought can still make you sense to some degree because you're not completely closing yourself up to the possibility.
You're looking for evidence of the existence of God which your intellect can understand is a futile journey and can never be realized.
Once again I advice harbour the possibility of the existence of spirits then you can start sensing.

MizMyColi:
Op.
What if I don't believe in Sky god. Am I an atheist? I believe in the life giving spirit within.
Am I in danger too?

The danger is not in believing in God but in the belief that there is no life after death which completely blocks sensing with the spirit.

johnydon22:
And the above post also goes to you....yes?

How

johnydon22:
Just want to know where you derive your own concept of God from...

Is it Yahweh, Allah, krishna etc?

You keep missing it, GOD IS ABOVE RELIGION

johnydon22:
Ok all this things you wrote here makes no sense, can you explain it simply? and less complicated so we will know where to start addressing it..

[size=18] If you are talking about immortal souls, their is no proof for that, infacts its one of the things we dont believe in.. when you die, their is nothing like spirit body, body is flesh.. when you die..You are bleeping dead and nothing more.. no more out of the world consciousness...
Baffles me why people who have not finished living this one chance of life we have are wasting their time wishing and vainfully clamoring for another.. If man was ever supposed to live forever it should be on earth not after you are dead[/size]

It will just pay you to have an open mind and the thought "what if I'm wrong" be open to the possibility.
With the way you write you're even becoming dogmatic about your belief just like the religious folks do